As a Jew who has grown up in the US, Israel, WTH is wrong with you? Israel, your people have been treated like crap in the past centuries, so what, you're better than what you're exhibiting now.
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Fascism N°5: Israeli Justice Minister stars in bizarre fragrance campaign ad
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I....I thought the title was just being cute.
Why the fuck would you literally call it Fascism?
And no, the "it's ironic lol" play doesn't work.
Why the fuck would you literally call it Fascism?
And no, the "it's ironic lol" play doesn't work.
This shit is the opposite of honest? To the point dangerous insincerity? Like literally some military grade double-speak? Are you seriously ok with open propaganda?
Yeah my post sucked reading it again.
I meant if they put it out in the open I prefer that to the double speak.
So... The point of the ad is to poke fun at people calling her fascist by saying "gee, what you call fascism sure seems like democracy!" ...but in reality what she's actually a total fascist? Someone stop the ride, I wanna get off.
I'm sure you're fine with FOX news as well.
In fact, I'm convinced you're considering this shit in some internet vacuum, instead of measuring the real life circumstance that surrounds it.
This is right wing terror. The don't laugh, they mock. And having an Israeli politician careless toss around the term fascist so frivolously is absolutely bone chilling.
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Criticism of the Israeli right is not the same thing as criticism of Israel.
(This shouldn't need to be said)
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Ok this is whats going on geo politics:
Theres a global dangerous trend of authoritians states shakes hand with capitalism (its been -almost- always democracy + capitalism, but thats no longer the case) thats leading in fact to Crony Capitalism. The second world power is a dictatorship with a pseudo capitalism running on its system and will become the first world power in a few years.
Then we have Abe in Japan, Bolsonaro in Brazil, Trump in US, the rise of Le Pen ini France, Sebastian Kurz in Austria and so on. On the same note we have the biggest influencers to be fascist pigs that breed hate on children so they can accept authoritian goverments easily in the future (and their race-crimes) and sites that amplify the hate speech.
Short term future is gonna be wild.
Theres a global dangerous trend of authoritians states shakes hand with capitalism (its been -almost- always democracy + capitalism, but thats no longer the case) thats leading in fact to Crony Capitalism. The second world power is a dictatorship with a pseudo capitalism running on its system and will become the first world power in a few years.
Then we have Abe in Japan, Bolsonaro in Brazil, Trump in US, the rise of Le Pen ini France, Sebastian Kurz in Austria and so on. On the same note we have the biggest influencers to be fascist pigs that breed hate on children so they can accept authoritian goverments easily in the future (and their race-crimes) and sites that amplify the hate speech.
Short term future is gonna be wild.
Isreal controlled by a right wing government, the public is shifting to extereme right wing nationalism.
Stating both are one in a same is legit.
You can say their are leftists in Isreal, but Isreali politics and public sentiment is very in right wing.
We already have someone from Israel telling us we're missing the point :shrugs:
https://www.holocaustremembrance.com/working-definition-antisemitism
^ Generally regarded as the go-to definition.
(This thread should not be yet another man-I-wish-I-could-criticise-Israel-but-people-say-it's-anti-semitism argument...)
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The IHRA version is what you're going to find all over the place as the definition. The problem you'll see come up over and over again comes from a couple of the examples in the definition, most specifically comparing current Israeli affairs and nazisim. This apparently prevents people from calling Bibi and his crooks (and his supporting acts across the right in the Knesset) a bunch of far-right pig-headed zealots who should be dropkicked out of office and into prison cells.
The sad thing is that people getting hung-up on this means that politicians on the far-right in Israel can literally campaign using the word fascist and everyone falls over themselves to give said far-right easy targets for their identity politics. It's a blatant bait to raise a candidate's profile and get approving looks from the hard right.
I am quoting your post to me where you seem to make a lot of assumptions about me. Not sure where it comes from or why you directed it at me.
So you said you're okay with this because it's better people show off their colours. Which I'm saying is that societal shame is a critical barrier that suppresses overt expressions like the one's that Trump evokes.
I get your point. And I agree with you. Especially as it concerns America.
But for Israel I am ok with them saying to the world and the United States their express intent and policy towards Palestinians.
Though its possible that might be a bad idea for the reasons you expressed.
I am glad he explained his point. I like people like that on the internet and messageboards.
I would have checked out and ignored him if he responded like an asshole.
Theres is still official opposition among the Israeli government that serves as a buffer against the worst case. Spreading disrespect of judicial checks only popularizes the idea and erodes public support.
Yup, all enabled because folks like Bibi play the media to look strong and get their voting bloc on side - a technique this politician is aping to success, given it is being talked about here.
You think you hit bottom of barrel there, but Bibi and the rest of his taint have for years been openly praising and excusing the King David Hotel Bombing that murdered 91 people, including 28 British civilians.
Fix your shit Israel.
Don't compare them to a certain historical party though, even when they're doing it themselves!