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FIA Formula One 2019 |OT| Oil Mining vs. Energy Drinks vs. Big Tobacco, pick your poison
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Well, he did do a test with the Pata Yamaha Superbike team who has Monster sponsorship. He was by all accounts pretty useful.
Hamilton in MotoGP will be as about as serious as Rossi in F1. So not much.
Mind you, if he wanted to compete in a race, he could easily take part in the Bol d'Or, the Superbike equivalent of the Le Mans 24hr race after he's retired from F1.
Hamilton in MotoGP will be as about as serious as Rossi in F1. So not much.
Mind you, if he wanted to compete in a race, he could easily take part in the Bol d'Or, the Superbike equivalent of the Le Mans 24hr race after he's retired from F1.
See I'm with this. Kimi looks like a cool dude, especially when drunk.
To add to the discussion on the last page, I too am a fan of Ferrari and also the New England Patriots. Tom Brady is the goat and there ain't nothin y'all can do about it. Also, as much as I like Vettel, I don't give a shit who's driving so long as the red car is in front.
I go the other way. I like Vettel (and Leclerc for that matter)... but I can't stand Ferrari. lol
I never really really care about any of the teams, I'm always just there for the driver's. But none of the teams were based out of Canada. If I lived in Italy or Germany or France or the UK or wherever, then I would like to cheer for a home team.
Racing Point owned by Stroll is Canadian. Even debuted the car out of the autoshow in Toronto this past February. Just because a teams physical base is in a country, doesnt mean it reps that country. Mercedes is based out of the UK, they are most definitely considered a German flag team
Yeah, I've been cheering for Stroll, I still think he's better than people give him credit for. I wasn't sure if the team was actually considered Canadian though, cause I thought Stroll Sr kinda bought the team with some other multinational people. But if they will fly the Canadian Flag on the podium for the team, then that would be great.
I've been cheering for a bunch of their driver's over the years, like Hulk, and Ocon, and now Stroll, plus I dig having a pink car on the track, even if their livery is pretty terrible.
Quality American open wheel drivers exist, but they don't have major financial backing and Indycar has siphoned them off (Newgarden), they got tossed out and turned out to find their home (Rossi), are stuck on the F1 ladder, or went off to NASCAR for big bucks.
So yep, you are right, there's no American out there that's F1 grade who wants to make the jump. Most are content where they are.
Are we talking dream pick or sensible?
Dream is Josef Newgarden or Alexander Rossi.
Sensible might be, if he keeps it up, Kyle Kirkwood, but he still has a few years to go.
Mario Andretti, 1979 World Champion. Michael should have been successful but it was part awful luck, part McLaren regression, part his own fault for trying to race in F1 while commuting from the U.S.
Sadly, Mark Donohue is a case of what could have been. Had he not died, he might have been the one to eventually break through.
I don't think you can blame the way F1 treats young drivers as a reason for Americans not making the grade as its pretty universal. If Perez can make it with Mexican backing, there's no real excuse for an American with similar backing not making it unless it's simply not a priority.
F1 has problems, for sure, but guys with talent stick around.
F1 has problems, for sure, but guys with talent stick around.
With NASCAR, any other motorsport in the US will always take a distant second place. The lack of open wheel talent is also reflected in the lack of motorcycle talent. Even when you have commercial backing, your racing talent depends on what career path they want to take. Most end up in stock cars because thats what they grew up with. They can earn a mint and stay relatively close to home.
Look at the US drivers that have driven in F1 in the last 30 years: Alexander Rossi. Scott Speed. Michael Andretti. Not good enough.
Look at the US drivers that have driven in F1 in the last 30 years: Alexander Rossi. Scott Speed. Michael Andretti. Not good enough.
There is also the fact that there are only a few F1 races that Americans can watch live without having to stay up late or wake up early in the morning. That kills the driver's brand/marketability in the US. Unless, the American driver lucks out with a good team and dominates. I'm sure an American driver isn't as marketable outside the US.
You reckon? Everything starting at 11pm basically makes them unwatchable for me. What time do Euro races start in the US?
4:10am for me, 5:10am for the west coast, 8:10am for the east coast
I'm starting to wonder if this is the reason why Brazil still is (by a big margin) the country with most people watching F1. Most races are held on Sunday mornings, and the ones in the Americas are held on the afternoon. Only the Asian races (except for Singapore, of course) and Australia are held in the middle of the night.
Ah. That would almost work better in my situation, I could watch that all the way through and when it finishes, start getting ready for work. 11pm is much harder to work around :/
We just watched the McLaren show on Amazon about their lead up to the 2017 season. It makes me wonder what is different with Honda and Red Bull than the partnership with McLaren. The Honda engine seems like such a huge improvement this year. Is it the McLaren side? Because that would be really shitty as they make it out to be Honda's fault in the show.
In the last few years I've gotten a handful of people into the sport. We just make brunch on Sunday morning and watch the replay. Yeah, it sucks not being able to watch live, but it's really easy to watch the replay.
Yeh the 11pm races are bad, 10pm was the sweet spot. Looks like i will be turning up to work a bit late on Mondays
It is easy to watch the replay but it's also easy to get the results spoiled. That's the only thing that sucks about the replay.
I just watch the race first thing after waking up now. ESPN is better about not spoiling stuff on the app too.
In that doco on Netflix, Horner mentioned it should make a difference being able to work directly with the supplier rather than just receiving engines from them. It seems RBR has more input into the development of the Honda engine, whereas Renault was more a supplier (I think?). Perhaps that influences how the engine is shaped and able to be packaged in whatever aero RBR come up with, I don't know.
Fucking amen. I literally started watching on-and-off when Webber started, then got more into it once he started performing with RBR.
His debut race I think energised a LOT of Australians into following F1 more closely than just catching up with it on the daily news. Here's a reminder:
And fuck it, while I'm here, Stoddart being a fucking legend:
Yeah that's true, I had the race last weekend spoiled for me. Usually the races are on early in the morning, so as long as I stay off social media until after I watched the race, I'm good. But with Australia starting at 11pm my time, I accidentally looked at twitter before going to bed, and saw the result.
Yeah in the Amazon show they shipped a chassis to Japan for Honda to fit the engine in because when they initially tried to install it, it didn't fit, so McLaren had to produce parts on site for the engine. My guess is that in previous years Honda was like "we'll do it all ourselves," and didn't allow McLaren to work as closely with them.
I'm a night owl so I normally stay up past 11 anyway.
Also the 30 minute earlier time zone helps.
Took me about half of that to realize this is satire. It started off believeable enough.
Are they though? Are there even Germans on the team? The closest we got to a German team in the past 20 years was Toyota.
There are members of multi nationalities on each team.
The nationality of each constructor depends on what country they are licensed in. This determines the anthem that is played on the podium
As Alfa Romeo are still using Sauber's license, if any Alfa driver were to win a GP, the Swiss national anthem would be played. Not Italian until they relicense
Racing Point are still licensed in the UK. If any Racing Point driver would win a GP, the British national anthem would be played. Not Canadian until they relicense
Haas were a new team, and licensed in the US, therefore the US anthem would play.
Its all listed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_constructors
To be honest, since Nasr was booted away and Massa's retirement, my will to watch F1 has dimmed like 70%.
I know how it works. But as a German I never considered AMG and Sauber BMW to be German teams, just like Red Bull is not Austrian to me.
Well, Mercedes (German) were formally Brawn (British) formally Honda (Japanese) formally British American Racing (British.. mostly) formally Tyrrell (British since it's founding in 1952). So even though it's team base is in the UK (along with the separate Powertrain division) it really should be regarded as Brand nationality rather than Constructor nationality.. This is what you get from having the major hotbed of F1 in the UK, with really only three (and a half - if you include Haas that has two factories - one in the US and UK) - Alfa/Sauber/Toro Rosso/Ferrari who are actually in mainland europe.
It's one of the reasons the constructor anthems are rather silly half the time. I watched F1 for long enough to see a team like Mercedes change name, owner, engine, colours and anthem many times. Red Bull coming off a different team altogether. How Lotus was at one point two unrelated teams. Anthems make sense for teams like Ferrari or Williams, teams like Mercedes or Red Bull should get a jingle or something 'cause they have very little to do with the country the anthem's coming from.
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