Okay how about this instead, I don't believe for a second that people in general are going to hold out if the games they want most are coming to the Epic Store.
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The Outer Worlds, Control, Dauntless, SpellBreak, The Cycle, Ancestors & More Coming As Timed Exclusives To Epic Games Store; TOW also on MS Store
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Okay how about this instead, I don't believe for a second that people in general are going to hold out if the games they want most are coming to the Epic Store.
it doesn't matter in any way, timed exclusivity sucks and is anti-consumer in every way. A very shitty practice. Ah well, too many good Nintendo games coming this year to even be bothered with worrying about Control.
I'm curious as to how many of the posters here saying "What a shame" or "Guess I get to save my money" are actually going to stick to their guns, because I can almost guarantee that at least a few are going to be there day 1 playing it through the EGS. I guess we'll see.
I imagine its even more tho for titles that they now could sell 1M+
that aint bad for small teams tho, that could for sure lessen any fears going into launch
Competition 101: as a PC gamer, are there less or more companies now trying to entice you to use their client? And did we get several previous Sony exclusives because of it or not at all? I might not be sufficiently clear on it.
bigger question is how manny were pc players to start with. I I have no love for the epic games store, but valve has been rent seeking their near monoply for years, and most of the stuff people listed valve only started after the epic games store.
It's not really unfair for people to judge google based on how they've operated and form an opinion. Anyhow, I don't see what's hilarious about the forum. There was a thread saying that the google option would be a success, there are people celebrating it and some that aren't. I'm pretty sure this is the case on any social forum or site. Hard to exercise that wit if you acknowledge that though, eh?
Considering the EGS is less than 3 months old, you're wrong.
You know, I was going to say "I sure plan to" but then I remembered that it doesn't count because I am too broke to buy all but like 4 games a year anyway, thus me skipping the game simply doesn't count since I cou;dn't afford it anyway, so touche... I can't actually prove you wrong in this situation
See this is valid. Smaller devs are devs all the same, so it sucks that their titles aren't getting at least a little more traction and that they're stuck being "minimum $100" to get funds. But I can understand why that's there. But it's something punishing good devs.
Well given the failure of CoD on PC, GFWL, UWP, and paid online on PC.
I don't fancy their chances.
Oh well. I usually give PC RPGs a year to see what kind of modding community evolves around it, anyway.
A question though, are all games purchased from the windows store UWPs? Also, does it work for Windows 8? I never had a reason to even look at that storefront, before.
A question though, are all games purchased from the windows store UWPs? Also, does it work for Windows 8? I never had a reason to even look at that storefront, before.
Wario64
"The Epic Store won't accept 'crappy games,' says Tim Sweeney"
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1108455575627587584
"The Epic Store won't accept 'crappy games,' says Tim Sweeney"
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1108455575627587584
Quote from article itself
https://www.pcgamer.com/the-epic-store-wont-accept-crappy-games-says-ceo-tim-sweeney/
12% model is raking in so insane cash that Epic has to transfer payment method fees to consumer as extra...
Everything that you said in this post is demonstrably incorrect. What's your deal?
Price is a big no no for me. I'm not paying £50 for any game on PC when I get can get them cheaper on console. Cutting off Steam doesn't just remove one option for consumers it removes several as I rarely even bought through the store anyway. If they open up keys for resellers then people will probably warm up to it more.
metro exudus sold 2.5x on egs on launch than the previous game. steam has a massive exposure problem.
There's a difference between a monopoly and trying to establish oligopoly. Unless there's collusion between these PC library providers (which doesn't seem likely at this point), it would be actually more beneficial to have oligopoly as far as mindshare for launchers is concerned, than having only a single viable launcher for games that aren't specific to a single publisher. Neither steam nor EGS has monopoly on selling any single game (especially after todays announcements), they also don't really have a monopoly on launchers. If steam was actively trying to make sure that EGS doesn't gain any ground, they would be a monopoly. But getting exclusive games wouldn't be enough, at most that would be just competing on an even ground.
It could stop publishers having their own stores, it could reduce prices for games or it could keep the prices the same just screw over steam users. I have hundreds of games on steam, just like xbox live and psn (and across nintendo platforms) and gonna soon break the hundred on GoG (not to mention some games on other launchers especially all but CoD on blizzard one). I still want a real alternative to steam that can rival in its user base rather than just offering old games or exclusivity on that single publisher's games and nothing else.
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Never Epic, i dont place consumerism over my principles. I can simply wait or buy the games on PS4.
That metric really means bugger all without context, it's so damn selective
All the stuff I listed released in 2018 or before far before the EGS launched.
Exodus lacked exposure on Steam?
You can't be serious and this elaborate joke, right?
Eh, was kinda interested in TOW but I'm not really into EGS/Windows Store's features (or lack thereof). If I can still get the game on Steam if I just wait, I might as well do so.
When they get a full exclusive that I care about this stuff will get more interesting to me though.
When they get a full exclusive that I care about this stuff will get more interesting to me though.
Epic's moneyhatting games that were not exclusive for a year is shitty and is what is being called out. Epic bringing games like Journey and Heavy Rain to PC is a good thing. It's two totally separate things.
Steam is not a f*cking monopoly
This level of logic is practically trolling at this point, we've had enough threads over this by now.
But fine in that case then, PS4 has a monopoly on the home console market and I will stick to that line. It makes as much fucking sense
Considering most of recent games are released as "early access" on launch, I actually made a habit of waiting for a complete editions with all of DLCs. So I'm totally good with waiting. If I really want to play anything from that list, I can always buy it on PS4 or the Switch anyway.
It's not that I feel loyal to Steam or anything. It's more about a basic principle. Epic strategy is a shitty move that ultimately hurts customers and I refuse to support their platform in any form whatsover.
It's almost as if you're experiencing some weird kind of schadenfreude that PC is becoming shitty like consoles.
I don't think you even play on PC.
That's cool. I'll wait and work on my backlog in the meantime. Would've loved to play the Outer Worlds day one at full price but Epic has already subsidized my lost sale so not like the publisher/dev cares anyway. Fuck em.
Enticing generally means some kind of benefit.
Anyone gaming in Korea, China or on Linux can't play any of these games.
I'm not inclined to play these games because Epic thinks Canada uses USD and wants to charge me transaction fees. In addition, it's missing features like achievements and forums (I don't use reddit or discord, so Steam forums are my go-to tech support place).
I'm also losing the price variation created by key reseller stores competing amongst each other to offer me a better deal.
That's to say nothing about epic accounts being more frequently hacked due to Fortnite, the whole spying on Valve through the Epic launcher thing and 3rd party exclusives being terrible in principle.
So, what's my incentive not to wait a year and play one of the several hundred games in my backlog, again?
I didn't buy a Switch out of principle because of online paywall. I can wait a year for a game.
Comparing a 2013 PC game to a 2019 PC game isnt really fair.
How well did Last Light even do at launch? SteamSpy has it listed as ~20k but theres no way that can be true.
Problem is a lot of people don't have the patience to wait a year and despite preaching about morals it's only a matter of time before Epic money hat a game that makes you rethink. It's a fucking shitty practise but it's one they are going to keep doing because they know people will come around eventually.
You only have to look at the examples in this thread to see people doing that already.
These threads are always such a fucking shit show full of posters who come in with a console mindset and don't see much of an issue - in reality with the current state of the GGS launcher as a consumer you pay the same price for less features. The end result is that piracy is going to be on the rise all over again.
You only have to look at the examples in this thread to see people doing that already.
These threads are always such a fucking shit show full of posters who come in with a console mindset and don't see much of an issue - in reality with the current state of the GGS launcher as a consumer you pay the same price for less features. The end result is that piracy is going to be on the rise all over again.
it also came to consoles. the other part of this is pc versions tend to only sell a fraction of the console version numbers, making epics money hatting even more appealing. why not have someone pay the cost of your pc port for you.
Considering the amount of games being released on Steam, I am ok with not buying Control or Outer World. Maybe I will get them for $10 each in a couple of years, maybe not.
Between the backlog and giant library of awesome games that is constantly growing on Steam (and the various consoles I own), it's ok to skip a few games.
I've not seen the video or a direct quote but is it worded as sold specifically on the EGS store or just at launch as a whole?
Since you are keeping track you can add me to the list. Haven't bought a single game from EGS. Really wanted Metro, but got burned by shady last minute exclusivity deals, lost all interest in the game and skipped it.
It said "sold 2,5x times more than Metro Last Light on Steam in the same timeframe".
Beware though, they are talking about "Metro Last Light", not "Metro Last Light: Redux".
This is going to be a growing pain for Steam only gamers I imagine. Hang in there, hope that those games fail (?), adjust to it, and do what you gotta do to cope. If Google Stadia gets timed exclusives, I'll respect it and know that I'll have to wait because of data caps. I would be technically locked out, nothing I can do, but with something like EA no longer putting it's games on Steam, or Epic Games securing exclusives, I am not locked out. This just seem like something that's necessary for other stores to get the ball rolling with Steam getting games on their app, and usually games that can only be accessed from their app.
When I first moved to back to PC gaming my first game was bought from Square Enix (FFXI). It actually took me a long time to download Steam, and it was for a specific non Valve game. I was used to getting games from wherever I needed to. Most developers sold their games from their own site. I got Daiblo 3 from Blizzard with no problem. One of the things people say steam is necessary for is exposure, but with google, twitch, and youtube, the cream will rise no matter what I feel. I never even shop on Steam's store page. Then some say it's about features, and yeah there are a lot of them. However people use features outside of Steam all the time, like Discord, and you can still use Steam for non steam games, I personally have to use Steam for non steam games because I like the Steam Controller and the Steam Input (please some third party make a non store front, dedicated alternative with touch pad support). There's a way to use the controller with Steam closed via a custom driver, but it makes the controller a generic controller.
I don't expect or want other store fronts to hurt or be more popular than Steam, I just want to see other store fronts do well enough that I don't have to be locked to Steam so much. Maybe eventually when Microsoft announce their new Forza or Halo coming to more than Windows store, they won't just say Steam, but list many other stores.
When I first moved to back to PC gaming my first game was bought from Square Enix (FFXI). It actually took me a long time to download Steam, and it was for a specific non Valve game. I was used to getting games from wherever I needed to. Most developers sold their games from their own site. I got Daiblo 3 from Blizzard with no problem. One of the things people say steam is necessary for is exposure, but with google, twitch, and youtube, the cream will rise no matter what I feel. I never even shop on Steam's store page. Then some say it's about features, and yeah there are a lot of them. However people use features outside of Steam all the time, like Discord, and you can still use Steam for non steam games, I personally have to use Steam for non steam games because I like the Steam Controller and the Steam Input (please some third party make a non store front, dedicated alternative with touch pad support). There's a way to use the controller with Steam closed via a custom driver, but it makes the controller a generic controller.
I don't expect or want other store fronts to hurt or be more popular than Steam, I just want to see other store fronts do well enough that I don't have to be locked to Steam so much. Maybe eventually when Microsoft announce their new Forza or Halo coming to more than Windows store, they won't just say Steam, but list many other stores.
I will buy the games I was going to buy on PC on my console instead, and if they are under a heavy discount in a year on steam ill consider getting it on PC then.
Is that acceptable to you?