You know Nintendo can't tell who is stuffing the ballot, right? People were using multiple devices to vote. If they cared so much they wouldn't have made it so easy to do in the first place.
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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread | The Wild Ride is still on!
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You know Nintendo can't tell who is stuffing the ballot, right? People were using multiple devices to vote. If they cared so much they wouldn't have made it so easy to do in the first place.
I always liked the idea of a Wars character as a summoner type. Kind of like Simon/Richter, actually, only instead of projectiles it's a bunch of tiny soldier sprites. Neutral B summons a tank, Side B summons infantry, Down B summons artillery, Up B summons a chopper. Smash attacks would be similar (not unlike Pac-Man with the ghosts), generic attacks for neutrals and aerials.
So you really just stand back and keep up a giant screen of soldiers from a distance, deploying them strategically. Capture that tactical spirit.
That way you could give them a Bowser Jr. style set of alts with just a bunch of random COs. Might look weird for scale on some, but Andy/Sami/Eagle at least always seemed to be the same shape/size.
So you really just stand back and keep up a giant screen of soldiers from a distance, deploying them strategically. Capture that tactical spirit.
That way you could give them a Bowser Jr. style set of alts with just a bunch of random COs. Might look weird for scale on some, but Andy/Sami/Eagle at least always seemed to be the same shape/size.
What, you forgot all the Goku talk?
Give me Klonoa and Susumu Hori (Mr. Driller).
True talk. Seeing goku and shrek and shit all put near the top is what will make nintendo think so many took the ballot as a joke.
Then it only would have launched on the Wii U, and may not have been the super success that it became.
Klonoa is among the GOAT platformers but I think he's too simple a character to really work in Smash. He'd have made a great Assist Trophy though.
Klonoa only does two things in his games. He can jump,, and he can grab enemies to either throw or use as a double jump.
I mean the ice climbers are even more simple than that. Or ROB, or captain falcon.
as simple as Sonic and Simon and Olimar. Klonoa can have different attacks based on the enemies he grabs from the games as well as some vehicle options. He already has a moveset in NamcoXCapcom.
How can anyone throw out the "too simple" argument in this thread anymore is beyond me.
If Piranha Plant and Pac-Man can get movesets, I'm not going to accept the "no moveset potential" anymore.
At worst, a character's moveset would be basic. That said, if you take Klonoa's concept of being able to control the wind with his ring, you can go absolutely nuts with his moveset capabilities. He's also been given an expanded moveset in Dream Champ Tournament, Beach Volleyball (of all things lol), Klonoa Heroes and the Namco X Capcom games based on the wind powers.
"too anything" doesn't work at this point. There is really no reasonable argument that can be made in that way for any character.
I'm pretty sure he still has me on ignore for calling him a Goku troll.
I mean, other than Banjo, those are all the characters from that supposed rumour that has yet to be debunked.
And Banjo is just super popular and with the cooperation between Nintendo and MS, has become a lot more likely as an option at this point.
I think Banjo is a hot topic in discussion right now because he's one of the only community darlings with a perceived good chance at DLC.
Ultimate killed a lot of other 3rd party wants like Bomberman, Rayman, Shovel Knight, and Shantae. Erdrick's strong rumors also puts a damper on other S-E characters. I guess there's still Crash who has a vocal audience?
Ultimate killed a lot of other 3rd party wants like Bomberman, Rayman, Shovel Knight, and Shantae. Erdrick's strong rumors also puts a damper on other S-E characters. I guess there's still Crash who has a vocal audience?
Technically aren't rayman and shantae not deconfirmed? People say spirits don't do that.
There's no precedent, so nobody can say definitively what a spirit does or doesn't do. Trophies in 4 didn't prevent Mewtwo and Lucas from returning as DLC characters, but Spirits have a gameplay component to them, however minor.
While it hasn't been super debunked I think the P5R reveal dampened it's credibility.
For one, it said P5R was coming by the the first half of 2019 but the fact it most likely won't be properly revealed until the end of April makes that less likely.
Plus the fact it called multiple costumes for the other characters but not Jane for Joker is suspiciously as well
The fact that it also has two characters being revealed at e3 also ruin its credibility.
Fair point. I didn't really recall the details because I didn't buy that rumour even when it first came up, so eh.
I just dont think it's a good sign for anyone that's a spirit when our first two known Fighter Pass characters (Joker and "Brave", very likely to be a DQ rep) are two characters that don't already have a notable presence in the base game.
There's no precedent, so no they aren't strictly out of the running. If Erdrick is real though then we are 2 for 5 of IP not in Ultimate being DLC, so it's worth considering.
Also Yuoke kind of touched on this but based on the datamine and this rumor we shouldn't have 4 of the 5 characters revealed within 2 months of each other after radio silence for the past 4 months.
And it's just common sense. They aren't going to pace things out with Joker teased decmber, he comes out in april, and then erdrick, then two more right after at e3, but then only one more even though they said through feb 2020.
I mean I personally don't think any spirit will end up as dlc (along with mii costumes), I didn't even before dlc reveals. Technically that can't be officially said though.
Bruh...pac man is in this game. PAC MAN. There is no argument that exists that can exclude any character based on complexity as long as pac man is in this roster. He literally does nothing but eat dots in a maze, eats a big dot that allows him to eat ghosts. Thats the full extent of the tools he has. Nothing else. His game doesn't have a fucking button outside of the start button.
I don't think Spirits deconfirm characters even if Erdrick is the next character shown off.
I always took Spirits as the Smash team working with what they had and going all out with them. I think a lot of the Spirits they've implemented were put in before they thought about DLC much less started making a selection.
Though this applies more to Nintendo characters more than third party characters who are Spirits. I think any Nintendo owned character who is a Spirit can be DLC especially if we get more Fighter Passes. They don't have a lot of candidates for DLC otherwise
I always took Spirits as the Smash team working with what they had and going all out with them. I think a lot of the Spirits they've implemented were put in before they thought about DLC much less started making a selection.
Though this applies more to Nintendo characters more than third party characters who are Spirits. I think any Nintendo owned character who is a Spirit can be DLC especially if we get more Fighter Passes. They don't have a lot of candidates for DLC otherwise
Well actually yeah I think if there's a second season pass after this, then being a spirit probably wouldn't matter for that. I'm just mainly talking about the Fighter Pass right now.
I am well aware of the spacing.
It's one of the points I've brought up before in the OT in Hangouts. If they're following a roughly evenly spaced schedule, we should be getting the reveal for DLC 2 combined with 3.0 info (Joker's exact release date/gameplay/details on the stage + whatever else the patch brings), and DLC 2 should be released around the time of E3, where I imagine DLC 3 also will be revealed.
I can see DLC 3 and 4 getting revealed at E3 together, but it seems unlikely.
That "leak" had detailed info on Erdrick alts, but nothing on Joker alts, even though he seems to have a female alt. Really casts doubt on it.
I think the schedule is going to be...
E3: Character 2
Late Summer: Character 3
Holidays 2019: Character 4
February 2020: Character 5
That would be a bit similar to Smash 4's release pattern outside a late summer character, but we did get a few new stages around that time.
E3: Character 2
Late Summer: Character 3
Holidays 2019: Character 4
February 2020: Character 5
That would be a bit similar to Smash 4's release pattern outside a late summer character, but we did get a few new stages around that time.
Eh guess. I dunno most of the characters who are Spirits don't seem like they would've been made playable to begin with.
Like I know this is going to seems super biased but Rex and Spring Man seem like the most likely to be upgraded to playable character for this pass but Spring Man has his AT complicating his chances along with Rex's Mii Costume
I think the main reason why people are going with Spirits deconfirm characters method is that most of them don't seem like candidates for this batch of DLC to begin with.
I wish.
But what does a Shueisha property have to do with the topic?
Pac-Man does a lot more than eating pellets in mazes. That's just the original arcade game he is known for.
There have been direct sequels where Pac-Man received additional abilities (e.g. jumping in Pac-Mania), as well as the franchise taking entirely different directions. There are Pac-Man puzzle games (Pac-Attack), Pac-Man 2D platformers (Pac-Land), Pac-Man 3D platformers (Pac-Man World), Pac-Man adventure games (Pac-Man 2), Pac-Man Mario Party clones (Pac-Man Fever), Pac-Man Pinball (Mr. & Mrs. Pac-Man) and even Pac-Man quiz games:
Granted, Pac-Man's Smash incarnation uses very little from the games that aren't the original arcade Pac-Man, but I think that's partially Namco's involvement in the development process, who likely would prefer the various Namco arcade classics getting represented over Professor Pac-Man or Baby Pac-Man.
But what about like rayman. Rayman for sure could be a legit dlc pick, and wouldn't have nay other restrictions.
Ice climbers and captain falcon were even better examples than pacman. Iceclimbers literally just jump and hit their hammer. Captain falcon sits in a car.Pac-Man does a lot more than eating pellets in mazes. That's just the original arcade game he is known for.
There have been direct sequels where Pac-Man received additional abilities (e.g. jumping in Pac-Mania), as well as the franchise taking entirely different directions. There are Pac-Man puzzle games (Pac-Attack), Pac-Man 2D platformers (Pac-Land), Pac-Man 3D platformers (Pac-Man World), Pac-Man adventure games (Pac-Man 2), Pac-Man Mario Party clones (Pac-Man Fever), Pac-Man Pinball (Mr. & Mrs. Pac-Man) and even Pac-Man quiz games:
Granted, Pac-Man's Smash incarnation uses very little from the games that aren't the original arcade Pac-Man, but I think that's partially Namco's involvement in the development process, who likely would prefer the various Namco arcade classics getting represented over Professor Pac-Man or Baby Pac-Man.
I mean it did for me immediately. I don't get how that wasn't a major tipoff for everyone.
It also talked about why these characters were added...like the leaker is Sakurai's assistant or something.
Yeah thinking about it Rayman is probably the most likely SPIrit character to be upgraded in this Pass.
My guess was that it's proximity to the original Joker/Erdrick rumor got people confused and thought they'd were the same rumor
I'm honestly surprised people take any leaks credible at this point that aren't straight up gameplay that clearly isn't a mod. I thought the shulk and bowser jr leaks were like endgame type stuff that would just set the bar. Then once the rayman leak was debunked, even moreso.
Text leaks have been credible before, but only from "trusted" people and even that can go south (loz18).
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