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Null Pointer

Senior Localization Producer for SEGA @ Atlus
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Nov 20, 2017
15
Irvine CA
Was wondering if you could make a similar post (to this) in this thread so I wouldn't have to link to the old site again hahaha

Seconded! It would really help when detailing the localization situation in regards to Sony's connection with the localization of the Yakuza series.

Outside the one time collaboration between Sony and SEGA for Yakuza 5, there is no connection between Sony and the localization of the Yakuza series into English. It's really as simple as that.
 

Fish Oil

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10
Kind of feel like I messed up somehow avoiding Majimi Everywhere stuff outside of forced story bits. It's basically the only thing left to do besides gambling games for full completion and at this point I've had everything maxed out for a week lol
 

Makaveli

The Fallen
Nov 7, 2017
59
So got to Part 3 in Yakuza 5....and I hate it. I really don't like rhythm games.

Is this stuff as long as the other parts? Playing through 5 hours of this seems like a real slog.

Other than that the games been ok. Really interested in the story as usual, but it feels like there's hardly been as much combat as I was hoping. Part 1s final chapter has to be one of the best Yakuza moments ever though.
 

shadowman16

Member
Oct 25, 2017
32,027
Does Yakuza 6 on Pro downsample on 1080p TVs?
No. It was 900p on base PS4, Pro users get it in 1080p. It does have some pretty nasty jaggies in certain spots, but hey the screen tearing is gone!

Kind of feel like I messed up somehow avoiding Majimi Everywhere stuff outside of forced story bits. It's basically the only thing left to do besides gambling games for full completion and at this point I've had everything maxed out for a week lol
I imagine Majima is still hiding under a traffic cone in Nakamichi Street thinking "any minute Kiryu Chan will find me... right?". But seriously, if Majima has just up and disappeared for several chapters at a time he's probably hiding in a traffic cone, and won't appear on the map again until you find and fight him.
 

Cyborg

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
1,955
Started with my first Yakuza game (Yakuza 0) and 25hours in Im loving it.
Is there a way to earn easy money? Except betting on ladies fighting in a cage?
 

shadowman16

Member
Oct 25, 2017
32,027
Best way to earn money in 0 (once your upgraded) is to use this cool Kiryu "Mr Shakedown" loop. Upgrade Kiryu's fighting and health as you see fit and once your confident in fighting Mr Shakedown go to the shrine and upgrade all money related options (getting more money from Shakedown, drastically reducing the cool down time for money to be available at your real estate business etc.) and go find Shakwdown when your carrying a ton of money. Now lose the fight (losing all your money. Get more money (from your real estate business) and rechallenge Shakedown. Lose again. Repeat this a couple more times then beat Shakedown. You'll get all your previously lost money back plus a ton more. This method works extremely well later in the game when you've got all the areas conquered in Real Estate because your earnings will be a couple of billion yen per cycle.
Unfortunately Majima has no great way to earn this much money, but after you complete a side story you can start transferring money between one character to the other so just earn the money as Kiryu and give it to Majima.
 

Cyborg

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
1,955
Best way to earn money in 0 (once your upgraded) is to use this cool Kiryu "Mr Shakedown" loop. Upgrade Kiryu's fighting and health as you see fit and once your confident in fighting Mr Shakedown go to the shrine and upgrade all money related options (getting more money from Shakedown, drastically reducing the cool down time for money to be available at your real estate business etc.) and go find Shakwdown when your carrying a ton of money. Now lose the fight (losing all your money. Get more money (from your real estate business) and rechallenge Shakedown. Lose again. Repeat this a couple more times then beat Shakedown. You'll get all your previously lost money back plus a ton more. This method works extremely well later in the game when you've got all the areas conquered in Real Estate because your earnings will be a couple of billion yen per cycle.
Unfortunately Majima has no great way to earn this much money, but after you complete a side story you can start transferring money between one character to the other so just earn the money as Kiryu and give it to Majima.
Thanx and thanx for the spoiler :) hahah
 

Fish Oil

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10
No. It was 900p on base PS4, Pro users get it in 1080p. It does have some pretty nasty jaggies in certain spots, but hey the screen tearing is gone!


I imagine Majima is still hiding under a traffic cone in Nakamichi Street thinking "any minute Kiryu Chan will find me... right?". But seriously, if Majima has just up and disappeared for several chapters at a time he's probably hiding in a traffic cone, and won't appear on the map again until you find and fight him.

Yeah I found him and now literally have fought him 15 times in the course of about 2 hours of game play
 

Larsa

Member
Oct 25, 2017
740


I see Kuryuu has started uploading her old let's plays from nico nico to youtube. She has been doing let's plays of Yakuza games for over 9 years now and she's my absolute favorite. It's really fun to see her go from an absolute beginner to a seasoned series veteran. Her video uploads are super slow though, she's been playing 0 since January. Watching the videos on nico is a great source for learning Japanese too, you've got the game, commentary and the flowing comments all in Japanese at the same time. The nico comments also makes every cutscene potentially hilarious.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/mylist/35175502
 

MoosiferX

Member
Oct 27, 2017
183
Richland, WA
https://www.twitch.tv/theelecplay

We are live! I'm playing both Yakuza Kiwami 2 and the original Yakuza 2 simultaneously once again. We are starting with Chapter 3!

I rarely get to watch live, but I'm digging your side by side streams! Cool stuff.

I played a few more chapters of Kiwami 2 last night, and finally got to mess around with
Four Shine. It's pretty great!
While I'm loving the game overall I want to take a quick moment to talk about something I don't like about the Dragon Engine. Facial animations, especially syncing, are pretty all over the place. It's really noticeable with a lot of the newly cast actors for the different characters. It just doesn't look like they took the time with some characters to really match up the dialogue to the mouth movements. Since I haven't played 6 yet, this is new to me, but it's a pretty big downgrade from previous games.

Also, I had a funny/embarassing revelation last night -- I was leveling up my character and I accidentally hit R1 and noticed there are 4 leveling up tabs. lol Felt like such an idiot. I was wondering why I wasn't learning any new heat moves or anything.
 

shadowman16

Member
Oct 25, 2017
32,027
So I'm playing Yakuza Kiwami and...DID THEY MISTRANSLATE DEBORAH AS DEBOLAH?! Or is that intentional?
I'd like to know this as well. The sign says Debolah but I could swear it said Deborah in the original game. Then again, it wouldn't be unusual to see an "l" get mistranslated as an "r" and vice versa, happens quite a bit in Japanese translations from what I've seen (i.e. Clash Man not Crash Man).
 

Aurc

Member
Oct 28, 2017
6,890
I'm kinda confused about that too. It switches back and forth between Deborah and Debolah, depending on the game.

In Yakuza 0:

It's the club you encounter Awano in, after the sewer fight with Kuze. In the background monitors, it says Deborah. The sign outside says Debolah. Lol
 
Oct 25, 2017
97
Italy
I just took the platinum in Kiwami 2 :D

I liked the game (mainly because it is still a remake of yakuza 2) but I didn't agree with many choices and changes they did...

I still think Yakuza 2 has the best mainstory in the whole series, I hope you all will enjoy the game and if possible enjoy the original one too.

Dragon Engine has improved massively compared to how it worked on Y6.

I don't think I will purchase (or even check any news about) Shin RGG tho, this game didn't change my opinion about their last works: I think they have not much more ideas about what to do in their minds.
Yakuza 0 was the only good surprise for me in last 4 years...
 

convo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,378
I really love the cabaret club conversations with the girls in Y0 and the two from Kiwami. Eventhough their conversation trees might not take as much time, i think i enjoy them more than a lot of confidants/social-links in Persona. It might be because i can get through them faster and aren't based on a calendar that i seem to enjoy their characterization a whole lot with their conversation topic being adult orientated. I am really looking forward to those bar conversation games in 6 and how they're like . Talking to people in these games might be as fun as the fighting for me. I know that whatever dumb shit Majima had to say to me during his encounters in Kiwami was fun enough for me that i would pursue him until he was exhausted till the next story beat.
I think some original fans are being a bit overzealous with how people should play the original two games. I can see why they think some beats won't hit the same like in Y2, yet i think newcomers will take enough of a liking to the remake. People used to Zero and Kiwami aren't going to welcome ps2 jank and loading times between battles any longer, at least most of them. I wouldn't exclaim to people to play the original Nier if they enjoyed Automata's story if the old gameplay would just cripple their experience. I can deal with it but i am not so hot on forcing others to deal with older games if it results in a detrimental experience for them.
 
Making a run on the Platinum in Yakuza 0 -- still have to wrap up a few odds and ends for 100% completion during Premium Adventure naturally, but figured I'd ask ahead of time in case someone here's got pointers to spare.

Any tips on surviving the Legend playthrough? Already at chapter 4 and haven't had much issue thus far, other than needing a health drink or two during the assault on the Dojima office in chapter 1.

Obviously I'm saving cash for necessary upgrades like Heat Retention, Heat Wave, Power Surge, Quickstep improvements, Counters and such, plus extended combo strings and whatever is adjacent to or blocking the unlockable "Master" abilities.

I tend to stay in Brawler style for Kiryu, swapping to Rush for faster more evasive opponents and opting for Beast on tougher ones using the "throw loop" after hard knockdowns on heavies and bosses thus far. With Majima, I figure I'll stick with smaller combo strings under Thug, the Square x 3, Triangle "whirling dervish" combo under Breaker to clear crowds and follow up with the classic, yet cheesy Bat Nunchaku Swinging for the heavies and meatier bosses, mixing it up with throws and Breaker spins. Is it worth investing time into RER or CCC this go around or will I make enough money through random street encounters and the occasional scrap with Mr. Shakedown? I've already been blessed enough with Kiryu to luck into a bunch of Ruby Plates from strangers saved on the street, so he's covered for a short time.
 

shadowman16

Member
Oct 25, 2017
32,027
I really love the cabaret club conversations with the girls in Y0 and the two from Kiwami. Eventhough their conversation trees might not take as much time, i think i enjoy them more than a lot of confidants/social-links in Persona. It might be because i can get through them faster and aren't based on a calendar that i seem to enjoy their characterization a whole lot with their conversation topic being adult orientated. I am really looking forward to those bar conversation games in 6 and how they're like . Talking to people in these games might be as fun as the fighting for me. I know that whatever dumb shit Majima had to say to me during his encounters in Kiwami was fun enough for me that i would pursue him until he was exhausted till the next story beat.
I think some original fans are being a bit overzealous with how people should play the original two games. I can see why they think some beats won't hit the same like in Y2, yet i think newcomers will take enough of a liking to the remake. People used to Zero and Kiwami aren't going to welcome ps2 jank and loading times between battles any longer, at least most of them. I wouldn't exclaim to people to play the original Nier if they enjoyed Automata's story if the old gameplay would just cripple their experience. I can deal with it but i am not so hot on forcing others to deal with older games if it results in a detrimental experience for them.

Most people agree to play 0 then Kiwami instead for the better story and more meaningful impact instead of playing the first game on the PS2. The second game is nowhere near as janky as the first game though, and while Kiwami 2 is absolutely fantastic, its still different in terms of content in places which is important - music changes for pivotal scenes, missing the host missions, hostess stuff handled very differently (ok, not a bad thing, but quite a big difference none the less) and smaller stuff like the marble reflections against the chapter 3 boss (a very small thing, but its a really nice touch that I kinda missed!)
But really I recommend playing Kiwami 2 now (or when its eventually translated) then going back to 2 when they can just to see the differences (kinda like I suggest people trying the Japanese version of 3 if they can, due to all the added content in the game). If you want you can emulate the game via PC and the load times disappear completely (did this myself and worked like a charm) or the PS3 collection (Japan only unfortunately) as that also adds a few little QoL improvements and eliminates load times for fights.

But for the time being Kiwami 2 seems like the better choice for newbies, far easier to get into the game that way. Oh, and I totally agree about the conversations in the newer games, really strong stuff on the whole.
 

Aurc

Member
Oct 28, 2017
6,890
I played through Yakuza 2 in the last few weeks simply due to a lack of patience. Yakuza 6 taking 1 year 3 months to be localized, for instance, does not bode well for future entries being brought over within a reasonable span of time.

I'm glad I experienced the fan favorite Crazy Ken Band scenes in their full glory, but other than that, Kiwami 2 seems to be an improvement over the original in every way. Just the fact that they did away with fixed camera angles is a tremendous positive... navigating the world the old-fashioned way was a nuisance that deterred me from doing much of the side content. I think people need to realize that their nostalgia could potentially cloud their judgement: jumping from 0 and Kiwami to the original Y2 is an insanely jarring shift. Currently playing Y3, and though it definitely shows some age when placed next to 0, it's so much more tolerable than Y2 was. The team could just up the res, bump the framerate, modernize translations (remove Fuma and Kazzy nonsense) and restore missing content for a PS4 port, and it would hold up well.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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Italy
I'm glad I experienced the fan favorite Crazy Ken Band scenes in their full glory, but other than that, Kiwami 2 seems to be an improvement over the original in every way.

I don't agree at all.
Kiwami 2 is an improvement only in a technical way, in all the other ways the original one is far better.
It's a user problem if they can't stand a little bit of "retro-gaming" and prefer to play a worsen version of Yakuza 2 instead of the timeless masterpiece the original one is.
 

Aurc

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Oct 28, 2017
6,890
I don't agree at all.
Kiwami 2 is an improvement only in a technical way, in all the other ways the original one is far better.
It's a user problem if they can't stand a little bit of "retro-gaming" and prefer to play a worsen version of Yakuza 2 instead of the timeless masterpiece the original one is.
Care to elaborate? I know you disagree, but can't tell why. What are some of the things Yakuza 2 does better than its remake?
 

YakuzaArk92

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Oct 27, 2017
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Oct 25, 2017
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Care to elaborate? I know you disagree, but can't tell why. What are some of the things Yakuza 2 does better than its remake?

First of all as you already said the CKB songs, but I would say also the rest of the OST.
Then some substories missing (the most sad thing was not being able to play the host club Adam), the Marietta management was replaced with exactly the same minigame we was already able to play in Y0.
The fight difficulty is another thing, Kiwami 2 just feels too much easy even when played at hard level.
They even changed some things in the main story deleting the whole small map of Shinsei.
Also, I already said it many times but the atmosphere and the color palette in PS2 Yakuza games feels much better compared to the new games, but it could be a matter of tastes.
And again I prefer the original voice acting for most of the characters (Kaoru for example), again a matter of tastes of course.

At least this time they didn't add something like "Majima Everywhere" which totally destroyed the epics of Majima fights and his character, and the Dragon Engine works much better too compared to Yakuza 6 (I hated some character faces tho, Yayoi and Shindou look very bad compared to Kiwami 1 for example).

I don't think this remake did enough to make me tell people "just play Kiwami 2, you don't need to play the original one".
Instead I would say "just play Yakuza 2, you don't need the remake" tho.

Basically Kiwami 2 doesn't add anything to the game beside the better graphic and more "modern gameplay" and take away a lot of good things from the original one.
 
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Aurc

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Oct 28, 2017
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- Yakuza 3 spoilers -

Almost done with Yakuza 3. After finishing this, I'll have beaten four of these games within the past few months, so I think a break would be in order. To be honest, nothing has lived up to 0 yet (though 2 was good), and I'm getting a bit fatigued by the persisting characters of the 2000's era. Only so much Date, Florist, Yuya, Kazuki, and throwaway Nishikiyama family baddies I can take. Even Majima isn't that good in Y3 (yet?), imo. I'm also noticing the basic gangster archetypes starting to reoccur, so I don't wanna get sick of the formula and start to wonder why I'm even still proceeding.

- MAJOR Yakuza 1, 2, and 3 spoilers -

Forgot to mention an emergent pattern I've found quite humorous: each of the first three games features a loud, angry, cantankerous fat man who dies at the hands of an antagonist. Shimano died to Terada, Sengoku to Ryuji, and Kanda to Mine.

Binary Domain might be a good palette cleanser, or maybe something entirely divergent from the Yakuza DNA.

First of all as you already said the CKB songs, but I would say also the rest of the OST.
Then some substories missing (the most sad thing was not being able to play the host club Adam), the Marietta management was replaced with exactly the same minigame we was already able to play in Y0.
The fight difficulty is another thing, Kiwami 2 just feels too much easy even when played at hard level.
They even changed some things in the main story deleting the whole small map of Shinsei.
Also, I already said it many times but the atmosphere and the color palette in PS2 Yakuza games feels much better compared to the new games, but it could be a matter of tastes.
And again I prefer the original voice acting for most of the characters (Kaoru for example), again a matter of tastes of course.

At least this time they didn't add something like "Majima Everywhere" which totally destroyed the epics of Majima fights and his character, and the Dragon Engine works much better too compared to Yakuza 6 (I hated some character faces tho, Yayoi and Shindou look very bad compared to Kiwami 1 for example).

I don't think this remake did enough to make me tell people "just play Kiwami 2, you don't need to play the original one".
Instead I would say "just play Yakuza 2, you don't need the remake" tho.

Basically Kiwami 2 doesn't add anything to the game beside the better graphic and more "modern gameplay" and take away a lot of good things from the original one.
I've liked what I've heard of the K2 OST, but I might be weird, because some of the only tracks that stood out to me in Y2 were the Sotenbori battle theme (Outlaw's Lullaby), some of the synth tracks, and of course, the CKB songs (which aren't OST). Skipped Marietta club management, so I can't speak on that. Difficulty is a reasonable point, though it's a tradeoff: yes, combat is easier, but also a lot more diverse, what with the myriad of weapons and heat actions that weren't present in the original, and Kiryu's more fluid attacks and skillset. In Y2, I would just spam the same combo much of the time, while occasionally stomping someone or slamming them into a wall. It got repetitive quick, and I'd say Hayashi and the final stretch of boss fights were the only true challenges. Shinsei's removal is unfortunate, agree with you entirely on that. Though it's a small area, it's quite nice, and I was really curious about how it'd look in the remake. Bummer. Also agree with you on Kaoru's VA.

I guess in the end, the tone and atmosphere of the graphics is subjective as you say, though I do prefer the Dragon Engine's vibes. Vibrant, bustling, realistic, it convincingly immerses you in the world they've crafted.
 
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Tizoc

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oman
For some reason I'm not liking the use of honorifics in Yakuza Kiwami; the localizations up til that game attempted to avoid use of the honorifics and made the dialog flow pretty good.
Plus I liked that they translated Kiryu-chan as 'Kazzy' for Majima.
 

Sygma

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
954
I'm in chapter 4 in Yakuza 0 (first Yakuza game ever), and holy hell its amazing. All the side stories so far were ludicrous to say the least, everything is ace so far. Kiwami 2 will be out next year ? I'm just gonna play through them chronogically like that, guess I should wait for the remaster of 3 4 and 5 too ?
 

mudai

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,334
I'm in chapter 4 in Yakuza 0 (first Yakuza game ever), and holy hell its amazing. Kiwami 2 is out next year ? I'm just gonna play through them like that, guess I should wait for the remaster of 3 4 and 5 too ?

So far Kiwami 2 hasn't been announced for the West yet, but we all bet that it's going to happen. In March Yakuza 6 comes out. After beating Yakuza 0 you can play Kiwami 1, which is a remake of the first Yakuza game. As for remakes of 3, 4 or 5: nothing has been announced so far.
 

Sygma

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
954
So far Kiwami 2 hasn't been announced for the West yet, but we all bet that it's going to happen. In March Yakuza 6 comes out. After beating Yakuza 0 you can play Kiwami 1, which is a remake of the first Yakuza game. As for remakes of 3, 4 or 5: nothing has been announced so far.

A'ight, well guess ill do just that then. Kiwami 1 and 2 ... plus some wait
 

SpartanForce

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
262
So I think this game is like Ishin! in share way, you can only stream after finished. Well I uploaded a video just doing side stuff after main game, mostly the colisseum. I want to do a Legend run but I'm kinda tired of the game for now - so maybe later. In the end it's a great remake I just miss the original OST that was pure sweet instrumental metal for a more pop-rock style.

Ryū ga Gotoku/Yakuza: Kiwami 2 - HARD | Premium Adventure
 

lucebuce

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,892
Pakistan
He's talking about the Asian versions which have streaming restrictions for all on PS4.

The localized versions have no such restrictions.