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‘The Walking Dead’ – Season 8 - Sundays on AMC
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The people on that forum are totally unhinged and need help.
Well, I think it's time for me to part ways with this show. I've been with it since S1, and have always looked forward to Sunday where I could watch the latest episode and talk about it with friends/family. However, the last couple of seasons (especially the current one) have caused my interest to wane, and I'm not the only one. I'll keep an eye on it and, if the second half of this season show improvements, I'll finish it off once it ends when it comes to Netflix. If it doesn't, I'll just move on.
It's a shame, as I once loved this show. It was easily my favorite thing to watch on TV, and now I'm (more-or-less) just watching it out of commitment and not really because I enjoy it. I hope it gets better, I really do, but I'm not about to designate more time to those show until I have some form of guarantee that it does.
Sad times. :(
It's a shame, as I once loved this show. It was easily my favorite thing to watch on TV, and now I'm (more-or-less) just watching it out of commitment and not really because I enjoy it. I hope it gets better, I really do, but I'm not about to designate more time to those show until I have some form of guarantee that it does.
Sad times. :(
I just don't know why anyone would want "show Carl" to be a major part of TWD the TV show. His acting was terrible.
They could have done a time-skip, cast a new/older Carl (one that could hopefully act better), and move on. Them killing current Carl off, though? No chance of that happening now.
I agree. I don't give a shit about the character departing, but I'm not sure if the writers are up to the task of what comes next.
Recasting would be impossibly awkward.
Time skips in a TV show? I just don't think this idea plays as well as people who read the comic think. Quick way to lose a ton of your viewers.
I think the material given didn't do Chandler any favors in actually performing from what I've seen this season so far (missed the mid season finale).
Probably, but from the sound of it, the actor playing Carl only had about a year or so of interest left in playing the character. I really don't agree with how suddenly they killed him off, especially after hearing all of the sacrifices the actor made with the promise that he had at least a year left of filming. Bad form, AMC.
The people I watch this show with actual welcome a time-skip, and I'm right there with them. I want a nice five-year jump, where everything in-relation to the show is "re-booted". None of this "community" nonsense, I'd love it if they whittled down the supporting cast a lot, got the main cast down to a respectable number, and just went back to what TWD did in the beginning (with them on-the-run, just trying to survive).
But then, I'm not a writer. It could all end horribly for me if I were, haha.
24 ran on large time skips all of the time. There's also Lost. It can work.
That's pretty lame of them. The current showrunner is still responsible for some of TWD's best moments. It looks like he messed up here, but I'm curious to see where he goes with this.
Every now and then this show has incredible moments. They don't come up too often, but when they do, it makes up for all the ridiculousness in between. At least for me.
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Idk man.. i've been watching the show since season one, I've enjoyed it when a lot of people made it there passing to shit on it.
Do I like them killing off the character? Hell fuck no. But I could get over it, if that episode was handle way better then the shit we got. Like seriously, how the fuck can anybody behind making this show think that was good tv.
I'm debating with myself if I'll continue watching weekly, or just wait for it to be on Netflix.
Do I like them killing off the character? Hell fuck no. But I could get over it, if that episode was handle way better then the shit we got. Like seriously, how the fuck can anybody behind making this show think that was good tv.
I'm debating with myself if I'll continue watching weekly, or just wait for it to be on Netflix.
Eh I wasn't a huge fan of Chandler's acting as well but I do believe he got better over time and I feel like he deserved the opportunity to act out the major arcs that Gimple promised him and his family he'd participate in. A lot of my beef with his exit has nothing to do with his performance or my fandom for Carl (he should have stayed in the house!), but rather the way it was handled and Gimples insistence of forcing his own terrible ideas on the show.
I mean shit, just look at the fucking trash people. Why did Rick go back to them and ask for help after they betrayed them in a major way already? Because they're a creation of Gimple and he'll be goddamned before they're nixed from the show.
There's a few crazies on there issuing death threats to Gimple but they're not the majority, and it doesn't seem any worse than any other online forum. Your statement is kind of an unfair, broad generalization in my opinion.
Edit: I would also like to add that if they really wanted to shock people without fucking with the source material in a damaging way, they should have killed Daryl lol. I like Norman Reedus but his plot armor is fucking bonkers.
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It's a never ending stream of hatred, vitriol, and death threats. Also worth noting the death threats receive no pushback and are joked about. If there are any rational adults there, I couldn't find them.
There's several people who've made comments about the absurdity of death threats (I'm one of those people) and said they don't wish harm on him, just that he needs to be fired. Honestly though I don't even wish for that. Carl and his potential adapted arcs are gone but firing Gimple isn't going to change that now. I think he should ride out the storm he created haha. Back to the topic at hand though, those posts generally end up barely acknowledged rather than quoted, liked and further perpetuated page to page. Just because they're not deleted doesn't equate to the idea being supported.
People calling for Gimple's head need to remember the showrunner spot was a revolving door the first few seasons until he finally righted the course. When he came on is when the show briefly hit its stride. Of course, this season was by the the worst eight straight episodes they've done. They ruined AOW as an arc, and it was great in the comic. It was entirely due to stretching the material and adding literal garbage(people).
I don't really know how these things work, but, has the second half of the season already been filmed? I hated how Coral was magically bitten off-screen and we're led to believe he's dying as a cliffhanger for the mid-season finale, but I'd hate it even more if after all the negative fan reactions to him dying causes the showrunners to go "well call him back, let's just say he survived somehow".
He's done. The actor confirmed as much.
I believe they have wrapped up filming on the second half recently, but I could be wrong.
He cut himself on a can of pudding, struggling to get it open.
Yep. What does Rick fight for now, Judith? Some amorphous future? Say what you will about Riggs, Carl was part of the show's heart. I really don't know how they deal now. I'm flabbergasted.
Also Enid shooting that woman and Rick not going nuts with Lucille were awful moments. I like the way the bite was handled and how it changed Carl, actually (if it had to happen), but that other stuff was dumb as hell.
This would be hilarious tho.
Guys, it's going to be revealed in the back half of 8 that the bite is actually from someone at Oceanside during a hot, steamy lovemaking session but he REALLY doesn't want Enid knowing that. Kid's got game.
A lot of it has to do with the behind the scenes drama around it. As much as people didn't care for him, I do think people were excited for his future stories as they're very important within the source material. Killing him off signifies a lot more than just no more Carl, it's a sign that the show is now going to veer off into a strange new direction... One shoehorned by a guy who couldn't give a straight answer or cohesively structure character arcs to save his life lol.
Watch Fear the Walking Dead instead. S1 is average, most of S2 is poor, but S3 is great and is really what TWD should be.
I think I might. I already watched both S1 and S2, and from what you (and others) say, S3 is where it really takes off, so I'm right there. I'll probably give it a watch and see how it goes.
I dropped this show maybe four seasons ago ? I never hated it, but eventually the idea that the fundamental plot (earth overtaken by zombies) was never going to progress much and that it would be an endless cycle of finding refuge and getting dislodged from it - with the occasional dramatic death - started to wear me thin.
Anyways- I'm wondering if show faithfuls were affected by this - or if maybe there was a change in the narrative structure? Half tempted to pick it up again .
I'm *super* psyched Carl seems to have died, though.
Anyways- I'm wondering if show faithfuls were affected by this - or if maybe there was a change in the narrative structure? Half tempted to pick it up again .
I'm *super* psyched Carl seems to have died, though.
They don't have an ending planned, they're stretching this out for as long as it's popular and frankly the storylines are suffering because of it.
This current season has been a whole lot of nothing. I've been around since day 1 and the only reason I'm still watching is mostly routine at this point.
Too bad every character is so unlikeable. I also don't see much future for the show, it's same rinse and repeat stuff as TWD. I admit that season 3 had it's moments but I still think it was worse then current TWD. I'll give s4 a shot but if it's the same "Madison bringing death and destruction to every community her family touches" plot line, then I'm out.
No amount of core character deaths can revive this show. A show about a mysterious zombie virus, survival, and attempting to find a solution has turned in to a yawnfest of shootouts, staredowns, and a storyline that has veered so far form the original that zombies are now just background fodder. The writing is just atrocious.
They need to finally accept the fact that everyone should have run out of bullets, explosives and gas by now.
It's fucking ridiculous.
It's fucking ridiculous.
This get posted here? Turns out it wasn't Chandler who chose to leave-
http://www.darkhorizons.com/walking-dead-death-upset-actors-relative/
http://www.darkhorizons.com/walking-dead-death-upset-actors-relative/
They should do a time skip where one day they see a zombie sprinting in the distance, and slowly build to the reveal of an evolving virus. Have them in a new area, searching for the CDC again. It'd make sense and build on nostalgia.
Flip this show on its head.
Flip this show on its head.
With how much trouble they have now, you want sprinting zombies? Everyone would die in the premiere lol.
Well the reveal for that bite was just awful and uneventful.
This season, and by extention last season has only had a handful of good scenes, with most of them being downright awful.
It makes me really miss the early days. Rewatching the show, it's crazy how different it used to be. Every episode wasn't a winner, but they were so much more intriguing to watch. I don't even like most of the characters remaining. It's like they try to fill the cast with the most boring or cliche characters imaginable.
I just miss when the characters used to talk like people, with actual conversations. Now everyone feels like a parody of themselves. Rick is still cool and all though, the man clearly gives it his all, but he's really the only character I like and yet I know he will never truly be in danger.
This season, and by extention last season has only had a handful of good scenes, with most of them being downright awful.
It makes me really miss the early days. Rewatching the show, it's crazy how different it used to be. Every episode wasn't a winner, but they were so much more intriguing to watch. I don't even like most of the characters remaining. It's like they try to fill the cast with the most boring or cliche characters imaginable.
I just miss when the characters used to talk like people, with actual conversations. Now everyone feels like a parody of themselves. Rick is still cool and all though, the man clearly gives it his all, but he's really the only character I like and yet I know he will never truly be in danger.
I am really torn on this episode (also, hi everybody, first time posting in TWD OT between the old place and Era). I've never read the comics but I know some bits and pieces of info thanks to my girlfriend being far more invested in the comics and TV show than me, albeit I've been following this show day one and mostly enjoyed it. The past few seasons have been hit and miss, last season should have been godlike but besides a few good episodes they kinda butchered it. It was written on the wall that they'd drag the actual war into next season, what I didn't expect is that they'd still waste so much time - granted, I have no idea how long the war in the comic is, so maybe there's far from enough material for 16 episodes to begin with.
This episode was... odd. A lot of character choices and cuts made little sense, feels like they had a hard time explaining things. I don't follow the series much besides watching it on TV so I had no idea there "had to be" a shocking moment or a death, was likewise totally unaware of the rumors about Carl, so it truly shocked me, and I think it was a pretty well made moment. It might be "weak" from a character standpoint that he got bit by a random zombie in a pointless scene, but at least it gives us a healthy reminder that zombies are, in fact, dangerous: for the past few seasons it seemed like anyone could outrun or kill hordes of zombies barehanded or with lame weapons. We kinda took for granted that zombies aren't the main danger anymore but it's the people - well, there it is, zombies can kill.
Rick got kinda weak and dumb lately, so having him get a wake-up call is not a bad call per se, especially considering his relationship with Michonne always seemed kinda thrown in there. What bums me is how they killed all the character development for Carl, and while it's a shocking thing (even more so as this will likely mean a giant departure from the comic) and to me it was done in an effective way, the implications could go either way. They have to follow up with a really strong vengeance story of Rick going fucking Rambo on Negan, make him the strong ballsy leader again who's capable of rough decisions and sacrifices - this is the only way I can see this death playing out well.
And I sure hope they don't cop out on the bite. Had he just been bitten I could understand finding a way, but the dude's been bitten for a day, he's getting a fever and can barely walk. He truly is The Walking Dead™. Glenn's fake death was obvious, this would be too much, akin to what Dallas pulled off back in the day; "oh you know this ENTIRE FUCKING SEASON? it was actually a dream". Both people who were there when the bite happened are aware it came from a zombie, so they can't do shit like "it was actually a human bite lulz". No doctor or superblood should cure this thing this late. They pulled this shit, they have to commit to it, copping out would do more harm than good. I am legit curious to see where the show will go after such a dramatic moment. As far as I care they could even ignore the comic completely, what I'm interested in is solid storylines and good character development, and lately that was not consistent.
Especially that trash people crap. Why are they dancing around these people, they add absolutely nothing to the storyline and their background, so far, is as good as non-existent. They better have something big planned for them, because I currently roll my eyes every time I see them. I see someone hinted at some spoilers from later in the show which I don't want to know of course, but at least something will happen I suppose.
This episode was... odd. A lot of character choices and cuts made little sense, feels like they had a hard time explaining things. I don't follow the series much besides watching it on TV so I had no idea there "had to be" a shocking moment or a death, was likewise totally unaware of the rumors about Carl, so it truly shocked me, and I think it was a pretty well made moment. It might be "weak" from a character standpoint that he got bit by a random zombie in a pointless scene, but at least it gives us a healthy reminder that zombies are, in fact, dangerous: for the past few seasons it seemed like anyone could outrun or kill hordes of zombies barehanded or with lame weapons. We kinda took for granted that zombies aren't the main danger anymore but it's the people - well, there it is, zombies can kill.
Rick got kinda weak and dumb lately, so having him get a wake-up call is not a bad call per se, especially considering his relationship with Michonne always seemed kinda thrown in there. What bums me is how they killed all the character development for Carl, and while it's a shocking thing (even more so as this will likely mean a giant departure from the comic) and to me it was done in an effective way, the implications could go either way. They have to follow up with a really strong vengeance story of Rick going fucking Rambo on Negan, make him the strong ballsy leader again who's capable of rough decisions and sacrifices - this is the only way I can see this death playing out well.
And I sure hope they don't cop out on the bite. Had he just been bitten I could understand finding a way, but the dude's been bitten for a day, he's getting a fever and can barely walk. He truly is The Walking Dead™. Glenn's fake death was obvious, this would be too much, akin to what Dallas pulled off back in the day; "oh you know this ENTIRE FUCKING SEASON? it was actually a dream". Both people who were there when the bite happened are aware it came from a zombie, so they can't do shit like "it was actually a human bite lulz". No doctor or superblood should cure this thing this late. They pulled this shit, they have to commit to it, copping out would do more harm than good. I am legit curious to see where the show will go after such a dramatic moment. As far as I care they could even ignore the comic completely, what I'm interested in is solid storylines and good character development, and lately that was not consistent.
Especially that trash people crap. Why are they dancing around these people, they add absolutely nothing to the storyline and their background, so far, is as good as non-existent. They better have something big planned for them, because I currently roll my eyes every time I see them. I see someone hinted at some spoilers from later in the show which I don't want to know of course, but at least something will happen I suppose.
My wife & I pay for the series because we don't have cable so the earliest we can watch is Monday, Imagine my gratitude towards Google Assistant popping a notification on my phone exclaiming 'what will so and so do now that they're dead'. I'm not super sensitive towards spoilers but that it's so hard to avoid very overt plot details is pretty lame, found out about the Glenn death in a very similar way hours before having the chance to watch.
That aside, I thought the episode was good but not amazing. That the series has turned into (for a long time now) basically a premier and finale with almost nothing of coherence or substance in between is such a bummer because it seems like they have so much to work with and its all just squandered. I buy the season at a time so we'll see how it ends in the spring but it's almost gotten to the point that all I can do is see the bad instead of just enjoy it as a whole which probably means its time to move on for us.
That aside, I thought the episode was good but not amazing. That the series has turned into (for a long time now) basically a premier and finale with almost nothing of coherence or substance in between is such a bummer because it seems like they have so much to work with and its all just squandered. I buy the season at a time so we'll see how it ends in the spring but it's almost gotten to the point that all I can do is see the bad instead of just enjoy it as a whole which probably means its time to move on for us.
So I've been hate watching this show the last couple of seasons and just couldn't even do it this season, we watched the first two episodes and then jumped to the finale and honestly didn't feel like we missed anything. What a horrible, design by committee cluster fuck at this point.
Yep, Negan is starting to become grating, his constant "I win again" status is reminding me of Ramsay from GoT.
His acting is fine. He plays the character very well.
His stuff with Negan was one of the best things to look forward to on the show and now it's gone.
I think I'm out. This season has been AWFUL. Its been so long and drawn out that the result is a boring show. Think about that for a second. A boring show about zombies and the apocalypse! Way to go, AMC.
I hate the lazy reveal about Carl at the end. It really felt like "Hey nothing happened this whole episode, we better drop some kind of shocker at the end! I know, let's kill Carl!". So lame. And now they not only screwed up the AOW arc from the comic, but the arc to come after involving Negan and Carl. Its okay to leave the source material behind and try something new, but when you do that you had better have a better plan and based on the way they've tacked on things like the garbage people to the story, I have little faith in them to pull it off.
We already endured an entire season of Negan's people just winning over and over and over and over and this last episode felt like a complete rehash of that. A tree in the road, threats made, everyone on the good team about to lose everything, etc etc. Enough. Its so tired now. The pacing has been absolutely awful this season as it is, but to have it culminate in another round of "Negan is invincible" is not clever or interesting. Like I said, I am bored.
I really loved watching this show and it had a lot of seasons I enjoyed despite knowing it was never as good as it could have been. There were sure some flashes of greatness, but it was always a B-tier show and now its mucking around in "LOST" territory so I think I'm out.
I hate the lazy reveal about Carl at the end. It really felt like "Hey nothing happened this whole episode, we better drop some kind of shocker at the end! I know, let's kill Carl!". So lame. And now they not only screwed up the AOW arc from the comic, but the arc to come after involving Negan and Carl. Its okay to leave the source material behind and try something new, but when you do that you had better have a better plan and based on the way they've tacked on things like the garbage people to the story, I have little faith in them to pull it off.
We already endured an entire season of Negan's people just winning over and over and over and over and this last episode felt like a complete rehash of that. A tree in the road, threats made, everyone on the good team about to lose everything, etc etc. Enough. Its so tired now. The pacing has been absolutely awful this season as it is, but to have it culminate in another round of "Negan is invincible" is not clever or interesting. Like I said, I am bored.
I really loved watching this show and it had a lot of seasons I enjoyed despite knowing it was never as good as it could have been. There were sure some flashes of greatness, but it was always a B-tier show and now its mucking around in "LOST" territory so I think I'm out.