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MrJohnSherry

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I don't have the football history that some of you have so somebody needs to explain why Man City gets so much shit for being bought by wealthy owners and when Liverpool FC was sold to wealthy owners as well. The key difference I noticed is the owners' source of wealth.

A decade or so ago, Liverpool Football Club was owned by 2 absolute leeches, who drained us of nearly every penny we had. We were not far from going into Bankruptcy. FSG came and bought us, and loaned us the money to get us out of our debt. Loaned it, we still pay it back (I'm not sure how much is left). FSG then made the right moves, changing how the club was run, getting in managers who could get the best of the players they had (we had a few bad decisions in this department too), and getting better sponsorship deals for the club - like the one with New Balance. We signed it as a progressive contract which meant the more successful we were, the more money they would pay the following season(s).

We also spent a good few years, building players up and selling them for ridiculous amounts of money (see Sterling, Suarez and Coutinho). We then reinvested that money back into the squad, getting some really good bargains in the market (like Mohammed Salah) and some freebies in Milner and Matip. Slowly but surely, we addressed all of our weaknesses using money we had amassed from sales, sponsorship's and cup/league placements. We earned the right to spend that money.

City's owners came in, bought them and just started piping money in via dubious sponsorship deals with companies they themselves owned. They are now being investigated for breaching various different versions of Financial Fair Play.
 

El Toporo

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We're all supporting the Spurs though, right? They are the clear underdog and they've spent very little money, especially compared to Liverpool.
It would be an incredible, historical achievement for the club.
 

Macca

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INST

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Spurs wins = Arsenal banter, especially FamTv.

Liverpool win = banter everywhere else

No losing scenario imo.

Klopp can't keep losing CL finals, twice he was the underdog. This one has to be it.
 

Kopite

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If Spurs do win though (and I assume with VAR they'll prolly do this fairly) full credit to them. They had one of the toughest runs as well as needing to contend with their transfer/injury issues
 

Deleted member 4353

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I haven't supported Liverpool since 2005 champs league final but I happily want them to win. If Spurs wins, we're not gonna hear the end of it with how much hte english media sucks their dick. Liverpool fans are awful but at least they didnt win the league.
 
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Spurs winning would destroy me but the reactions here would be classic.

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Dernhelm

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Oct 25, 2017
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Congrats to City once again. Not gonna bring up shit like the FFP, if Watford weren't going to even try with an F.A. Cup sitting right there, then a fucking is what they deserved. And it's only been pointed out to me today, that with City winning, and us potentially winning the European Cup, we may be in with a shout for 6 trophies next season.

Six chances for you lot to watch us potentially shit the bed in glorious fashion!
 

Macca

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Congrats to City once again. Not gonna bring up shit like the FFP, if Watford weren't going to even try with an F.A. Cup sitting right there, then a fucking is what they deserved. And it's only been pointed out to me today, that with City winning, and us potentially winning the European Cup, we may be in with a shout for 6 trophies next season.

Six chances for you lot to watch us potentially shit the bed in glorious fashion!

Up the Reds.
 

ScoutDave

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Oct 25, 2017
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COYS!

Im not expecting them to win. But im proud of them to make it where they did through all the injuries and such and still finding ways to win, has been glorious to watch.

If we do win, i would expect to be drunk for the rest of forever.
 

Deleted member 16452

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Its gonna be great no matter who wins.

But I feel like Spurs winning would trigger some sort of cataclysmic worldwide event that ends all life on earth.
 

Spine Crawler

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Oct 27, 2017
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Is Aubameyang the most underrated striker of our time? i think so. he scored 31 goals in germany in one season to rump lewandowski and get the golden boot. he scored 22 goals this season and got the golden boot again. both were achieved in C-tier teams (arsenal and dortmund). He also scored 19 goals in the french league with St. Etienne another C-tier team.
 

Vault

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Valencia got Champions League after their horrendous start to the season.

They just need to be able to do it consistently and they will be able to compete again at the top.
 

Luke92

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Is Aubameyang the most underrated striker of our time? i think so. he scored 31 goals in germany in one season to rump lewandowski and get the golden boot. he scored 22 goals this season and got the golden boot again. both were achieved in C-tier teams (arsenal and dortmund). He also scored 19 goals in the french league with St. Etienne another C-tier team.
Your Dortmund hate is getting old, Dortmund and Arsenal are certainly no C-tier teams. In Germany, there's one better team than Dortmund, and in England, there are two, maybe up to four teams that are better than Arsenal. I don't wanna take anything away from Aubameyang but scoring as many games as those teams' main striker isn't that crazy.
 

Spine Crawler

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Your Dortmund hate is getting old, Dortmund and Arsenal are certainly no C-tier teams. In Germany, there's one better team than Dortmund, and in England, there are two, maybe up to four teams that are better than Arsenal. I don't wanna take anything away from Aubameyang but scoring as many games as those teams' main striker isn't that crazy.
Both are C-tier teams in europe.
A-tier is Real, Barca, Bayern (debatable), Mancity, Juve (lot of money, lot of titles)
B-tier is Liverpool, Chelsea, PSG, Atletico, Tottenham (lot of money, not so many titles)

Arsenal and Dortmund are C-tier.
 

Garfield

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Oct 31, 2018
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Sour grapes, but I don't like what City is doing to English football at all, I am sure if you are one of the few thousand fans you must be loving it, but we could be in for a period of really boring seasons where people lose the will to care as we all know who will win...

I know Watford never helped themselves, but that was a perfectly decent PL team getting turned over by a team who only has 1 serious opponent
 
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Joni

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Oct 27, 2017
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Kompany becoming a player-coach at Anderlecht is at least the kind of white rabbit that the owner of Anderlecht needs to not be crucified when they fail again next year.
 

miserable

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Oct 27, 2017
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The state of Madrid

A fitting end to this shit season. Zizou has his work cut out for him. Also a pretty shitty move by him to not give Bale any minutes if he is really leaving this summer
 

Dwebble

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Oct 25, 2017
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I know Watford never helped themselves, but that was a perfectly decent PL team getting turned over by a team who only has 1 serious opponent
There was nothing decent about that performance- never mind City, Watford were legitimately dreadful in their own right. Any number of teams would have given City a better game than that.
 

Vault

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Setien is getting sacked

Betis should have done better this season, they should have at least gotten Europa with this squad
 

Dragoon

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Oct 31, 2017
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Driving for 3-3.5 hours to see the final. Will be staying at my buddys place whose a LfC fan. Wonder how it will be if Spurs win for the rest of the day.
 
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