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Ensign Kim (Star Trek: Voyager) may be the most useless character of any long running TV series
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Voayager felt like a very sexually frustrated show.
7 of 9. Enough said.
Harry Kim almost never gets laid. Chickens out went 7 of 9 would fuck him, didn't get with the hologram or anyone on the sex death planet, and when he does it makes him glow green.
Tom Paris wont stop let go of Bellana like a pitbull on an ankle.
There was also that episode with the uncle Vulcan going after Bellana.
I haven't seen the entire series but that Chakotay and 7 of 9 romance sounds awkward af.
I'm sure there's more.
7 of 9. Enough said.
Harry Kim almost never gets laid. Chickens out went 7 of 9 would fuck him, didn't get with the hologram or anyone on the sex death planet, and when he does it makes him glow green.
Tom Paris wont stop let go of Bellana like a pitbull on an ankle.
There was also that episode with the uncle Vulcan going after Bellana.
I haven't seen the entire series but that Chakotay and 7 of 9 romance sounds awkward af.
I'm sure there's more.
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A real comedown from TNG where Riker and Troi fuck everyone they meet.
He wasn't rebuked. She told him to take off his clothes and get busy on the lunchtable, and he ran away with his tail between his legs.
One of the great things about TNG was it gradually becoming more aware of Riker. Like, there's the episode where Picard goes on vacation, and he's already fed up with Riker talking about the women on the sex tourism planet before Riker has even started talking. Then it turns out that the gift Riker asked Picard to get for him was actually a trick to get Picard laid, and Picard's reaction is just short of "not this shit again".
I liked him, but he became so self reighteous he became insufferable.
One that was identical up until Voyager split itself into two. Its a distinction without a difference.
It's fine if he wants to have an emotional connection before jumping into bed, but since he couldn't express that, he's still a screwup.
There was an alternate timeline where he married Tom and Kes's daughter and they had a son.
And when he got laid he got an STD and disappointed mother Janeway. She gave him shit about it despite similar things happening to other crewmembers too.
He was never replaced with a copy. Voyager was duplicated with both being the original, one blew up and he and the baby moved to the one that didn't. No alternate timeline or other universe nonsense. It like the Tom Riker effect if they weren't separated for years, they both real Riker, both real Harry.
Also OP, I raise you a Mayweather.
Also OP, I raise you a Mayweather.
I think she was three or four years old and Ocama only lived something like nine years, so she was almost middle aged.
I was gonna post that IMO, Harry Kim was like the worst (best?) portrayal of bad Asian stereotypes possible. Because he:
1. Overachiever and plays a musical instrument (clarinet lol)
2. Abnormally close to his mother (fond memories of being in her womb. Yes he says this outright)
3. Meek and horrible dealing with women for the most part
They own the character, but need pay royalties to the creator to use it. Tom is better in that he got away with it, but turned himself in anyway out of guilt. The original had Wesley squeel on him, so not as likeable / redeemable.
I'm still amazed that I liked 7 of Nine, because of how derisively she was talked about by the Trek community when Voyager was on.
Janeway is fun but I think she suffered from extremely inconsistent writing.
Janeway is fun but I think she suffered from extremely inconsistent writing.
People turned against 7 of Nine once she lost the skin tight suit for the new one. The old suit was hell to work in.
I recall that Harry Kim appeared as a Captain in the penultimate episode of Voyager. That's at least some promotion.
That episode where they brought her back (accurately) all old was nothing short of character assassination.
I hear Jeri Ryan hated working on the show, not because of the suit, but because Kate Mulgrew was rather hostile towards her. Their scenes together where they are friendly shows how both Ryan and Mulgrew are good actors.
I'm glad someone brought this up, The crew kind of just went on like "Oh well" and moved on in one episode.
Sephzilla You should really really really start watching SFDebris seriously you would get a kick out of him.
https://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek.php Right side of the page Voyager and watch it all.
Your welcome.
https://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek.php Right side of the page Voyager and watch it all.
Your welcome.
It also puts their conflict scenes in a new light. I especially think of scenes in "Prey."
Not true. Naomi Wildman died in one. Survived in the other.
There were more differences than that
The Voyager we see is actually Quark's holodeck novel adaptation of the real events.
I only really enjoyed the Doctor in Voyager. Most of the main cast were boring as shit.
O'Brien was a boring ass chud who never should have been the focus of any episode ever. Me and my friends refer to him as O'Boring, especially any episode that featured his marriage trouble with Keiko.
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The Doc and 7 got the most attention for character development, even if they were essentially retreading Spock/Data.
DS9 wins again for being the best, come fight me.
Because he didn't put in any work, the other actors who got to direct came in on their days off, shadowed directors, went into the editing booth etc., and when Berman believed they wouldn't screw it up they were assigned an episode. Wang reportedly said he wanted to direct but was the first to run home when he wrapped for the day which is his right of course vut it didn't earn him a second job and a second paycheck.
A genius, instead of consoles exploding in their faces Voyager installed a new smoke feature. I think they also removed the ceiling rocks that would always kill people on TNG.
Voyager actually has a lot of really good episodes (and a lot of really shitty ones), it's never consistent and that can be frustrating because the quality literally fluctuates between episodes but it is worth watching. Maybe use an episode guide only listing the good episodes.
Lies, Archer was the worst, a completely incompetent, arrogant doofus who would have gotten his crew killed in the first month if it wasn't for T'Pol. Archer alone proved the Vulcans right in thinking humanity wasn't ready.
Source? I guess he broke the Asian stereotype in real life if that's the case, a shame the writers were so terrible with Harry in the show.
Even the robot was getting laid in TNG.
Yup, everyone but Geordi got some action on that ol pleasure barge.
Some interview I can't find at the moment, I found something else that's interesting though, Wang's own commenrs about why he didn't get to direct.
He comes off as quite arrogant and dismissive of other people's work.
To be fair, once Seven of Nine joined the cast, like, every other episode was about her, the Borg, or Janeway. I'm exaggerating, but I remember it sure feeling that way when the show was airing. So every other cast member joined Harry Kim's role as being useless and their roles faded into the background. It was obvious the show was leaning hard on Seven of Nine's sex appeal in a cynical attempt to boost ratings.
Voyager is still my favourite Trek show to watch random episodes of. It felt like a real family on that little ship.
Which is funny since he is a raging ass the first season, but to be fair i would too if I was stuck in one room at the beck and call of folks too.
This.
I don't understand why, maybe it is almost like a Trek Sitcom in some ways, but I'll put it on in the background on occasion, and almost never do that with any other Trek, even though I loved DS9 and TNG a hell of a lot more. The doc episodes are almost always the best to do this with.
Love the one where he's asked to leave Voyager and become a singer.