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Amtrak train derails onto Interstate 5 between Tacoma and Olympia, WA
- Thread starter NihonTiger
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Had no idea about the host, what trash. Have lots of friends/family in the area and was trying to get some good info.
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TV station reports are totally taking the Lakewood mayor's statement out of context and making it seem like he predicted this specific crash would happen.
The Lakewood mayor did sue in 2013 to stop this from happening though, even though his reason wasn't the same. So he still gets credit for having safety concerns that apparently no one else did.
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Yep. His worry was the at-grade crossings in Lakewood, which has not been addressed
I remember after the Amtrak derailed near Philly a couple years ago (or was that 2016?) they were talking about these automatic speed controls. If I remember correctly the deadline to implement them kept getting pushed back.
This is a nightmare scenario. My thoughts are with everyone involved.
Accidents on aging rail lines I can understand because of lack of infrastructure investment, but the first run of a brand new high speed rail line? What is going on? Why can Japan have such a good safety record with trains and America not? Is it a culture issue in the rail industry? Lowest-bidder contracts leading to shoddy work? Or simply not enough oversight for pure negligence? All of the above?
Accidents on aging rail lines I can understand because of lack of infrastructure investment, but the first run of a brand new high speed rail line? What is going on? Why can Japan have such a good safety record with trains and America not? Is it a culture issue in the rail industry? Lowest-bidder contracts leading to shoddy work? Or simply not enough oversight for pure negligence? All of the above?
Is this a joke I'm just not getting or something I've missed in the news?
Edit: I see that it relates to the crazy speculation - sorry, was a bit quick there.
Ignore those idiots.
i googled the first line. it lead to infowars which lead to gateway pundit which lead to a random "official antifa" twiter account
Has anyone else heard of this or confirmed it?
Source:
http://www.king5.com/article/traffi...red-in-amtrak-crash-near-dupont/281-500303305
This would be insane if true.
Source:
http://www.king5.com/article/traffi...red-in-amtrak-crash-near-dupont/281-500303305
This would be insane if true.
Well the curve right before the bridge has a 30mph speed limit.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...iled-in-washington-has-speed-limit-of-30-mph/
So if the train was doing 80 around that then that's most likely why it derailed.
You mean fascist twitter-twatters made up shit out of whole cloth in a ham-fisted attempt to smear their ideological adversaries? Un-fucking-possible
How fucking stupid is your conspiracy theory that something derailed the train when there are pictures of the engine still on the fucking tracks!?
I refuse to believe these fucking morons can work a door, let alone a damned web browser
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As someone who takes a commuter train every day, that is terrifying. Especially because these infrastructure departments and orgs have no money and are aging.
I... what? Did you quote wrong post? I'm so confused by your post.
Train was total of 14 units, 2 engines (1 / end) and 12 passenger cars. Another engine ended down on I-5 and was engine pulling the train, train was heading towards bridge. Only thing that remained on tracks was 2nd engine.
I wasn't directing my screed to you. Just apoplectic that known liars are free to use Twitter to pass obvious bullshit off as some sort of Antifa conspiracy. Pardon my wildness. Thanks for the additional info, though
UK ITV News mentioned 1 passenger car was too dangerous to enter but they expected no survivors (presumably no noises from it)
Hmm if it derailed because it was going too fast from the bottom towards the top left, wouldn't it have derailed on the opposite side of the bridge?Well the curve right before the bridge has a 30mph speed limit.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...iled-in-washington-has-speed-limit-of-30-mph/
So if the train was doing 80 around that then that's most likely why it derailed.
I'm sure. Seems to be a few confirmations that all trains have been checked and no one remains on either them or the vehicles below. So three deaths and several critically wounded so that number could rise... around 100 passengers at last count had been taken to local area hospitals.
A lot of mass and lower center of gravity in the engine. These talgo carriages on this train actually swing outward from the top and are significantly lighter. So it makes sense that they are more susceptible to derailing, pulling off the cars behind.
Edit: the way that last engine landed is amazing.
RIP to all involved :(
I'm outside the US so "Amtrak" is basically synonymous with "derail" to me. I realize that's a bit unfair since that's the only reason the name would hit international news, but that's my unconsious word association.
I'm outside the US so "Amtrak" is basically synonymous with "derail" to me. I realize that's a bit unfair since that's the only reason the name would hit international news, but that's my unconsious word association.
Not far off. Airlines and bus companies would be closed for Amtrak's levels of negligence over the years, but it is politically protected by Dems and Repubs.
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American air carriers achieve zero passenger fatalities:
"Let's shut them down!"
I don't live in the US anymore, but if I did I would never ever set foot on an Amtrak train again.
When I was a kid, I traveled on an Amtrak train with my mother (I can't remember the exact line but someone between Alabama and Tennessee I believe- I was like 7) and about halfway through the trip
the entire train jostled for a bit and then came to an abrupt stop. It wasn't bad at all but definitely surprised all the passengers.
I decided I was going to run to the front and see if I could find out what happened from the conductor or whatever.
Turns out we had plowed completely through a double wide mobile home that had been stuck on the tracks at a crossing.
Could have easily been a worse scenario I guess as it ended up just delaying us for several hours as they cleared the tracks, but it shook me even as a kid.
I wasn't aware buses or jetliners were capable of derailing.
EDIT: Saw your edit, I now see your intention with that post. Sorry for coming off as needlessly aggressive.
Ah, I see what you are confused about. I edited my post. I am very critical of the shit service Amtrak provides.
Yeah, I saw your edit. Sorry for the aggression. I would add that bus companies and the regulatory bodies that oversee them, have been very lax in regards to safe operation. In comparison, Amtrak is under much more stringent oversight.
It probably took them most of the afternoon to gather all the personnel and assign roles before getting on a flight.
I mean sure, but that late... may as well just wait till the morning.
And the scary thing is that the people posting this shit believe it is real.
One of CNN's headlines on their site is stating "Fire chief says over 100 people transported to hospital and three are dead after Amtrak train jumped tracks".