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Super Mario Maker 2 |OT| The (Super Mario) World Ends with You
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Thank you for playing it! And yeah a no pick up bob-omb run would be brutal lol :p
I made certain areas disadvantages for being Big Mario, but even easier as Fire Flower Mario. Every power up block ,( and hidden power up in the trees), holds the stacked Mushroom/Fire Flower so I made it rewarding if you can keep the upgrade and make it the next one. Which isn't easy, and as you saw misuse of the bob-ombs can even destroy the power up blocks. I originally had Bowser holding a key for a door to the end but decided with the theme of the level just to do the bomb door thing. He was also gigantic in the first iteration too thus blocking the whole thing but I wanted to give the option.
What a manipulative tweet. "Why does Nintendo pick on me?" Come on, man, it's obvious that enough trolls (or even genuine people who stumbled across a kaizo stage) reported it that it ended up automatically dealt with.
A lot of good points in this post.
I'm actually nodding most to the point that the first game allowed some pretty novel seeming platforming stages without falling into gimmick central because of the ability to mix and match things not done previously, even if it was as simple as "what if Lakitu was throwing out bombs instead of spinies?"(not that I tended to use Lakitu, that cloud of his just about ruins everything if you can nab it).
The lack of new enemies in 2 to interact with each other as well as obstacles/platforms of sorts kinda puts a limiter on those that played the heck outta the first game unless you want to dip back into the previous well.
No surprise that on/off, cranes and seesaws have had a lot of use since launch, as some of the few new building blocks they've been in high demand.
I can only hope Nintendo are holding numerous things back to drip feed in, partly to not overwhelm the new players (who have so much to work with it's probably led to them having paralysis by analysis) and also to extend the longevity of things.
3D World lands in this really clumsy spot of having a fair amount of unique objects not available elsewhere, but often a lack of synergy between them and a lack of everything else. The main story mode pretty much gets the heads up on showing all their potential before the playerbase could making the creation of an impactful 3D World stage that much harder.
Where's my JC stages honed through years of platforming prowess?
On that actual point though, I've really forced myself to put down the maximum amount of checkpoints even if it leads to ones that feel mostly unnecessary/or dilute the challenge of a final obstacle.
Because really when it comes down to it, no matter how I feel abut my own designs, i'm just one of many random guys plonking more stages into the mix without the refinement of an internal mario team and people ain't gonna stick around when they get sent back halfway near the end.
He's not so much saying Nintendo is picking on him, but more talking about how Nintendo was aware of this issue, it had happened to him before and had Nintendo said it shouldn't be a problem going forward. Then it happens again and he seems to have no recourse with an email response saying the decision is final.
It can suck when you spend hours on something and something happens like that despite precautions and checks that were put forth.
Isn't GrandPOOBear one of the most popular mario maker streamers? Seems weird but 100% so Nintendo to not be on top of this.
That's hugely upsetting. I was planning to play that eventually. Wtf?
Just finished my 2nd outright Easy difficulty level. It's called "Spam ZL or ZR Going Down!" and is aimed to teach beginners how to spin jump in NSMBU. Of course as with all my level there's a twist: you have to spin jump falling down the same level you walked through! No touching ground allowed.
Code: P6M-HYS-23G
Code: P6M-HYS-23G
Seriously guys the 75 character limit for comments is absolute garbage. You can't say shit in that limit.
I take it this has already been posted?
The only way to make sure moving objects line the way you want is to either use autoscroll and a lot of experimentation to get the positioning right, or to drop the player into the screen with a door or pipe, and have everything on one screen.
In that very tweet chain he says he received this email about it:
So either the deletion was not automated at all, or their automated system makes "final decisions" and threatens users with further action if they trip it again. I don't know which is a worse look.
Yup, was just thinking that last night. Easiest solution I can think of.
I was visiting fam that day and my niece was actually the one that suggested all that busy stuff I had there.
She wanted to make kaizo shit and I was like, but it has to be fun for the player! She has no understanding of what too hard is lol.
All I am saying is he didn't need to try to garner sympathy with the "why are they picking on me" since that's not what is happening, and people would be very willing to criticize a dumb way of handling reports without that angle!
I think it's more voicing frustration than garnering sympathy. Mario Maker is pretty much this dude's life. He literally makes a living off it. All this message from Nintendo is telling him is basically don't make levels so you don't risk losing access to a primary money maker (yes he can grab another Switch and NNID to keep playing but holy shit that shouldn't be necessary). You can argue he shouldn't be reliant on a service like Nintendo's or YouTube/Twitch for income but that ship sailed a long time ago.
If you've done something wrong it should be explicitly stated what so you don't repeat the mistake and get yourself banned. Nintendo dropped the ball here massively and it sucks for Poo because he's such a major promoter of Mario Maker and Mario games in general.
And all I'm saying is that your claim of his level being hit with an automated deletion is either not true at all, or indicative of far bigger problems. Frankly, you taking more issue with his wording than with the deletion itself is surreal and rather corporate-apologey.
It's not manipulative or trying to garner sympathy when the exact same thing already happened to him in SMM1 and they said they would be more aware going forward.
The same thing happened despite him being told it shouldn't happen again lol It isn't a one time thing, and it isn't happening without further knowledge of it. You're looking at just the first tweet in a vacuum as if there is no more context to it.
If you build a wall going all the way to the top and bottom, the screen will stop scrolling there.
Just remembered to come back to this thread! I'm loading up with stages as we speak.
I've also uploaded four of my own:
Dry Air — JL2-1NX-6WF
"Straightforward but slightly tricky course. Find the alternate exit!"
Icy Front — 807-YRJ-WNG
"A very brief stage that rewards speed!"
Big Whoop — 14C-T7H-4NG
"Nothing you can't handle!"
Toddler Playroom! — RH7-MF0-3KG
"Challenge-free course for young players to get into Mario!"
I've also uploaded four of my own:
Dry Air — JL2-1NX-6WF
"Straightforward but slightly tricky course. Find the alternate exit!"
Icy Front — 807-YRJ-WNG
"A very brief stage that rewards speed!"
Big Whoop — 14C-T7H-4NG
"Nothing you can't handle!"
Toddler Playroom! — RH7-MF0-3KG
"Challenge-free course for young players to get into Mario!"
My brother just spent the best part of the last week making this work of insanity:
Super Tomb Smasher (Escape Room)
Y8L-FXG-4BG
You have to break into a tomb and escape with the treasure. It's centred around puzzling with a few platform challenges on the way. The puzzles are in the mould of something like The Witness, where you have to take environmental clues to progress. Not for the impatient!
Super Tomb Smasher (Escape Room)
Y8L-FXG-4BG
You have to break into a tomb and escape with the treasure. It's centred around puzzling with a few platform challenges on the way. The puzzles are in the mould of something like The Witness, where you have to take environmental clues to progress. Not for the impatient!
This is so tough!! edit: I was approaching things wrong, editing it out so as not to taint other peoples' Impressions.
I was actually about to ask if anyone made any upside down courses they're proud of, and then this arrives! The hooks while upside down are extra trippy.
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I've been sharing a lot of levels of mine and have played a bunch of levels from ERA users, so I'd thought I'd actually share my thoughts on this game finally in review form, if you folks don't mind me linking to it.
Tip.
You can spin jump them or,
Use a shell on the ? at the start and quickly jump on it to bring it to a halt. A star will appear allowing you to become invincible.
Thanks for your feedback :)
The bookmarkersite replacement will come eventually and probably via Switch App. There is no doubt about that.
Yes, it's a feature that should have been there for launch, but it's Nintendo.
Yes, it's a feature that should have been there for launch, but it's Nintendo.
I'm guessing they're so dank, dusty, and dark that the ghost houses are great for mold and mushrooms in the moist spots.
Most of the ground tile decorations are being shared between the themes, which is a bummer.
But yeah, just overwrite them with a ground tile decoration of your choosing. Or none.
Freezeflame Follies
KXW-FC3-5TF
For my third creation, I thought I would challenge myself to make something way out of my comfort zone: a relaxed, atmospheric, and reasonably short level targeted at the play styles or values favoured in Endless Challenge. The concept I started with was simple enough: fire in an ice world, ice in a fire world—so of course there was no escaping the obvious Galaxy influence, which the finished stage wears on its sleeve. Since the elements in themes in play here aren't often mashed together, I explored a number of interactions that aren't commonly seen; you would be amazed at how many things you can do with icicles in lava.
Predictably, my instincts got the better of me and I couldn't resist putting in one set piece driven by all sorts of backstage mechanics concealed from the player, so this, supposedly my most straightforward and uncomplicated design, cost me far more time to put through QA and debug/optimize than it did to actually make, as I kept coming up with ever more obscure edge cases for breaking it. (Ask me about it sometime—I'm eager to talk everybody's ear off about this because they can't just take my work into the editor and look at it—but let's just say for now that seesaws are the most incredible exception handlers, quietly the magic bullets of SMM2 bug-fixing.)
I'd say this is definitely the easiest level I've ever uploaded in either game: I targeted the 10-20% range, and once the numbers settle we'll see how close I was to the mark.
Featuring:
- Icicles... in lava... in space!
- Three bonus coins (one 10-coin, one 30-coin, and one 50-coin, in that order)
- An original three-switch gating system that took me forever to debug, which I'm sure somebody will break immediately
- A red and blue colour scheme, but without a single on/off switch or dotted-line block in sight
- A rare appearance by the Superball in a context with zero long-winded deflection puzzles
- A very special Easter egg for those who have played my other levels (comment if you find it!)
- Checkpoints
To be honest, I've found myself far out of step with the culture of the early rush of SMM2 players, who seem to overwhelmingly prefer short traditional stages with a strong sense of place, clear rates north of 20%, heavy checkpoint placement, and simple concepts that don't require too much time/space/practice to develop—players who essentially never want to repeat any content, but want to take in something memorable and pleasant in under five to ten minutes with no net loss of lives, using their existing skill set, then move on to the next thing. That isn't how I play, so it isn't how I design. I prefer to play levels around the 5% mark that show off original concepts or technical interactions that could only be done in Mario Maker, so that's what I typically aim to make (hitting the intended difficulty quite accurately, more often than not). And I'm a mechanics specialist, not a natural environment artist like some of the amazing designers here who turn out visually stunning fare that seems to transform the Maker palettes into totally new and different themes—so I find it hard to get outside the box of building Mario spaces in schematic terms, where the only thing they look and feel like is a Mario game, and to let the aesthetics drive the bus.
But last week I started playing a ton of Endless to get a lay of the land, and now I understand where all those players are coming from. And what a perspective. It's a completely different experience, to the point that what one wants to come across in Endless bears no resemblance to what feels like an appropriate length or difficulty when you are hand-picking level codes from group exchanges and trusted creators. It's not the same commitment, and difficulty itself has a totally different meaning when you are risk-averse and lives are precious. Now I see why so many of the levels I merely consider pretty good are so beloved by the player base, as they are perfectly tuned for the Endless crowd. So I developed this level under the guidance of the question: what would be nice to see in Endless, when I'm short on time or lives or patience?
We'll see how adequately I've answered this. But I thought I should take a stab at it just once, and by the time I was done with it, it had drifted back towards being more my kind of level anyway.
Thanks for playing, and as always, please report bugs or clunkiness.
*
Previously:
- It Belongs in a Museum — WL5-40G-JRF
- Flame War on a Series of Tubes — XSJ-LF2-CCG
KXW-FC3-5TF
For my third creation, I thought I would challenge myself to make something way out of my comfort zone: a relaxed, atmospheric, and reasonably short level targeted at the play styles or values favoured in Endless Challenge. The concept I started with was simple enough: fire in an ice world, ice in a fire world—so of course there was no escaping the obvious Galaxy influence, which the finished stage wears on its sleeve. Since the elements in themes in play here aren't often mashed together, I explored a number of interactions that aren't commonly seen; you would be amazed at how many things you can do with icicles in lava.
Predictably, my instincts got the better of me and I couldn't resist putting in one set piece driven by all sorts of backstage mechanics concealed from the player, so this, supposedly my most straightforward and uncomplicated design, cost me far more time to put through QA and debug/optimize than it did to actually make, as I kept coming up with ever more obscure edge cases for breaking it. (Ask me about it sometime—I'm eager to talk everybody's ear off about this because they can't just take my work into the editor and look at it—but let's just say for now that seesaws are the most incredible exception handlers, quietly the magic bullets of SMM2 bug-fixing.)
I'd say this is definitely the easiest level I've ever uploaded in either game: I targeted the 10-20% range, and once the numbers settle we'll see how close I was to the mark.
Featuring:
- Icicles... in lava... in space!
- Three bonus coins (one 10-coin, one 30-coin, and one 50-coin, in that order)
- An original three-switch gating system that took me forever to debug, which I'm sure somebody will break immediately
- A red and blue colour scheme, but without a single on/off switch or dotted-line block in sight
- A rare appearance by the Superball in a context with zero long-winded deflection puzzles
- A very special Easter egg for those who have played my other levels (comment if you find it!)
- Checkpoints
To be honest, I've found myself far out of step with the culture of the early rush of SMM2 players, who seem to overwhelmingly prefer short traditional stages with a strong sense of place, clear rates north of 20%, heavy checkpoint placement, and simple concepts that don't require too much time/space/practice to develop—players who essentially never want to repeat any content, but want to take in something memorable and pleasant in under five to ten minutes with no net loss of lives, using their existing skill set, then move on to the next thing. That isn't how I play, so it isn't how I design. I prefer to play levels around the 5% mark that show off original concepts or technical interactions that could only be done in Mario Maker, so that's what I typically aim to make (hitting the intended difficulty quite accurately, more often than not). And I'm a mechanics specialist, not a natural environment artist like some of the amazing designers here who turn out visually stunning fare that seems to transform the Maker palettes into totally new and different themes—so I find it hard to get outside the box of building Mario spaces in schematic terms, where the only thing they look and feel like is a Mario game, and to let the aesthetics drive the bus.
But last week I started playing a ton of Endless to get a lay of the land, and now I understand where all those players are coming from. And what a perspective. It's a completely different experience, to the point that what one wants to come across in Endless bears no resemblance to what feels like an appropriate length or difficulty when you are hand-picking level codes from group exchanges and trusted creators. It's not the same commitment, and difficulty itself has a totally different meaning when you are risk-averse and lives are precious. Now I see why so many of the levels I merely consider pretty good are so beloved by the player base, as they are perfectly tuned for the Endless crowd. So I developed this level under the guidance of the question: what would be nice to see in Endless, when I'm short on time or lives or patience?
We'll see how adequately I've answered this. But I thought I should take a stab at it just once, and by the time I was done with it, it had drifted back towards being more my kind of level anyway.
Thanks for playing, and as always, please report bugs or clunkiness.
*
Previously:
- It Belongs in a Museum — WL5-40G-JRF
- Flame War on a Series of Tubes — XSJ-LF2-CCG
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Freezeflame Follies
KXW-FC3-5TF
For my third creation, I thought I would challenge myself to make something way out of my comfort zone: a relaxed, atmospheric, and reasonably short level targeted at the play styles or values favoured in Endless Challenge. The concept I started with was simple enough: fire in an ice world, ice in a fire world—so of course there was no escaping the obvious Galaxy influence, which the finished stage wears on its sleeve. Since the elements in themes in play here aren't often mashed together, I explored a number of interactions that aren't commonly seen; you would be amazed at how many things you can do with icicles in lava.
Predictably, my instincts got the better of me and I couldn't resist putting in one set piece driven by all sorts of backstage mechanics concealed from the player, so this, supposedly my most straightforward and uncomplicated design, cost me far more time to put through QA and debug/optimize than it did to actually make, as I kept coming up with ever more obscure edge cases for breaking it. (Ask me about it sometime—I'm eager to talk everybody's ear off about this because they can't just take my work into the editor and look at it—but let's just say for now that seesaws are the most incredible exception handlers, quietly the magic bullets of SMM2 bug-fixing.)
This is definitely the easiest level I've ever uploaded in either game: I targeted the 10-20% range, and once the numbers settle we'll see how close I was to the mark.
Featuring:
- Icicles... in lava... in space!
- Three special coins (one 10-coin, one 30-coin, and one-50 coin in that order)
- An original three-switch gating system that took me forever to debug, which I'm sure somebody will break immediately
- A red and blue colour scheme, but without a single on/off switch or dotted-line block in sight
- A rare appearance by the Superball in a context with zero long-winded deflection puzzles
- A very special Easter egg for those who have played my other levels (comment if you find it!)
- Checkpoints
To be honest, I've found myself far out of step with the culture of the early rush of SMM2 players, who seem to overwhelmingly prefer short traditional stages with a strong sense of place, clear rates north of 20%, heavy checkpoint placement, and simple concepts that don't require too much time/space/practice to develop—players who essentially never want to repeat any content, but want to take in something memorable and pleasant in under five to ten minutes with no net loss of lives, using their existing skill set, then move on to the next thing. That isn't how I play, so it isn't how I design. I prefer to play levels around the 5% mark that show off original concepts or technical interactions that could only be done in Mario Maker, so that's what I typically aim to make (hitting the intended difficulty quite accurately, more often than not). And I'm a mechanics specialist, not a natural environment artist like some of the amazing designers here who turn out visually stunning fare that seem to transform the Maker palettes into totally new and different themes—so I find it hard to get outside the box of building Mario spaces in schematic terms, where the only thing they look and feel like is a Mario game, and to let the aesthetics drive the bus.
But last week I started playing a ton of Endless to get a lay of the land, and now I understand where all those players are coming from. And what a perspective. It's a completely different experience, to the point that what one wants to come across in Endless bears no resemblance to what feels like an appropriate length or difficulty when you are hand-picking level codes from group exchanges and trusted creators. It's not the same commitment, and difficulty itself has a totally different meaning when you are risk-averse and lives are precious. Now I see why so many of the levels I merely consider pretty good are so beloved by the player base, as they are perfectly tuned for the Endless crowd. So I developed this level under the guidance of the question: what would be nice to see in Endless, when I'm short on time or lives or patience?
We'll see how adequately I've answered this. But I thought I should take a stab at it just once, and by the time I was done with it, it had drifted back towards being more my kind of level anyway.
Thanks for playing, and as always, please report bugs or clunkiness.
*
Previously:
- It Belongs in a Museum — WL5-40G-JRF
- Flame War on a Series of Tubes — XSJ-LF2-CCG
This looks awesome and I'll have to play this when I get home. Bookmarked ;)
I totally agree with you about the most popular levels being more easy going , shorter , that have a clever idea or look and don't wear out their welcome. But the thing is for some of us , like myself, I enjoy a more intricate challenge. I really like to see how "epic" a level made in Mario Maker can feel and I enjoy the really long ones too. I make levels all over the spectrum, quick little ideas , ones that I wish didn't have a max 500 second time limit and gimmicky stuff too. I think the beauty of Mario Maker stages are the possibilities seem endless. If everyone's competing for "likes" and chasing trends I think we'd all get bored more quickly. I guess what I'm trying to say is you do you! Don't worry about mass appeal because there's people like me who enjoy a lot of other stages some other folks might not bat an eye at. I remember playing your other levels and enjoying those so keep em coming! Looking forward to playing the new one later.
I finally made a level that I think isn't terrible.
Yin and Yang
Y0D-BK9-07G
I haven't seen the concept done before, but it's such a simple and super obvious one that I'm pretty sure it's been done hundreds of times and I just happen to have missed them all. Once I thought of the level theme, I was afraid to check popular courses in Course World because with my luck I knew I'd see the same level idea executed far better. :P
Yin and Yang
Y0D-BK9-07G
I haven't seen the concept done before, but it's such a simple and super obvious one that I'm pretty sure it's been done hundreds of times and I just happen to have missed them all. Once I thought of the level theme, I was afraid to check popular courses in Course World because with my luck I knew I'd see the same level idea executed far better. :P
Here I was about to go to sleep and then I'm thinking "hey I didn't play Mario Maker today, better at least turn it on" and then I've got a new QuixoticNeutral stage to play.
Sleep delayed, stage played.
But the feedback will have to come tomorrow, for now though I can say I beat the stage on the first attempt but landed two secs beyond Phil's record, I like to think that's a good sign of the stages immediate playability at least.
Sleep delayed, stage played.
But the feedback will have to come tomorrow, for now though I can say I beat the stage on the first attempt but landed two secs beyond Phil's record, I like to think that's a good sign of the stages immediate playability at least.
Hey guys. I have just uploaded my latest level. It took quite a long time to construct. Mario is a time traveller and has to travel through a tunnel between the present and future to solve puzzles and progress through the level. I'm quite pleased with it. If anyone plays it thanks in advance.
Time Tunneling
TJM-TH0-XLF
Time Tunneling
TJM-TH0-XLF
I'm trying to make a scenario where you have to avoid a train of them on the top of a platform and then that same train on the bottom. I have come across the following issues just trying to get this one thing to work:
1) If they're not one square apart from each other they get confused whilst turning a corner and the entire train fucks up
2) Because they don't turn around when placed on the bottom of the platform (when they do if you place them on the sides ffs) you can't make a train that goes around the entire thing
3) They move *way* too slow for the same train to be present once the character gets to the bottom of the platform
4) There being no way to 'pen them in' means you can't even go that route if you want to
Just urrrgghhhh. Why are these enemies so needlessly annoying to build with?
1) If they're not one square apart from each other they get confused whilst turning a corner and the entire train fucks up
2) Because they don't turn around when placed on the bottom of the platform (when they do if you place them on the sides ffs) you can't make a train that goes around the entire thing
3) They move *way* too slow for the same train to be present once the character gets to the bottom of the platform
4) There being no way to 'pen them in' means you can't even go that route if you want to
Just urrrgghhhh. Why are these enemies so needlessly annoying to build with?
How can I connect two areas with a door in SMB1? The green door seems to only connect withing the same area.
Doors connect within a subworld, pipes connect the main world and subworld
Fantastic work! Everyone make sure comments are on when playing.
Just finished my first level... I'm a Sonic boy at heart so I naturally ended up creating a tiered level without even meaning to lol. A little rough around the edges but I don't think it's too bad for my first try, let me know what you think
Mushroom Park
RTG-26H-RVF
Also: how are you guys getting a screenshot of your level to post here?
Mushroom Park
RTG-26H-RVF
Also: how are you guys getting a screenshot of your level to post here?
Does anyone have any tips for uploading multiplayer-specific levels?
Problems I've encountered:
- must be cleared as a single player
- might get boos in single player rotation despite the tag
- how to force everyone into 2 or 4 different doors (e.g. if 2 vs 2 compete and only one team gets to the flag room).
Any suggestions?
Problems I've encountered:
- must be cleared as a single player
- might get boos in single player rotation despite the tag
- how to force everyone into 2 or 4 different doors (e.g. if 2 vs 2 compete and only one team gets to the flag room).
Any suggestions?
Nice level!
To get a screenshot press the button on the left joycon. It will be in the gallery on your Switch, and from there you can upload to Twitter or Facebook to eventually share here. You can also add text in the Switch's gallery!