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Doskoi Panda

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Oct 27, 2017
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Not sure a game with so many faults can get a 10 from anybody. Gives the impression somebody is pushing for this.

Not saying anything underhanded is happening but you have to question such a result, especially as other games with similar faults get hammered.
If this game was called PlayerUnknown's Beldagrounds...
 

Lidl

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Dec 12, 2017
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One game mode few maps and few content online multiplayer only, 10/10 today's gaming industry
It's a highly dynamic game mode. No other games compare. In other shooters you complete the same objectives over and over and over again. Here? Not so much.
If you put the first PUBG map next to all Battlefield 1 maps glued together, PUBG would probably still come out on top as far as area goes. And with 1.0 they're adding a map just as big as the first one.
 

chowyunfatt

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Oct 28, 2017
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PUBG is without a doubt deserving of a 10/10, warts and all. The core gameplay elevates it so far above any other multiplayer game I have ever played. The performance was fantastic on the test server too, I'm getting ~100fps where I was getting 50-60 before. Add in the new map, replay mode, killcam, and quality of life enhancements and I can see myself playing this for years.
So is battlefield 4 as the core gameplay in that is brilliant and I've played that for years. Mine and your opinions will always give games a deserving score in our minds but a critic is supposed to be more judgemental and look at games with a bit more scrutiny. A 10/10 implies perfection and it's far from that. Your opinion may give it a 10/10 and that's fine but your not "selling" your expertease at reviewing games like these so called critics, professional reviewers.

I also don't buy into its only the guys opinion, they should be more professional than that. Glad your enjoying the game anyway.
 

Doskoi Panda

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's your basic run and gun shooter, its not even on the level of SQUAD. Let alone Arma.
As someone who's actually played tons of Squad and ARMA and knows how they're different inside and out... please, tell me more.

Tell me about how crazy it is that, with a thousand hours in ArmA, I went and spent another 500 hours playing PUBG.
 

CobaltBlu

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Nov 29, 2017
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PUBG is really fun to play but I don't think it is well crafted in all aspects. Personally I'd prefer if reviews were representations of a game's overall quality rather than a statement that it has surpassed a reviewers fun threshold. Even if I disagree with the perfect score I do think PUBG deserves recognition for what it has accomplished this year flaws and all.
 

okay

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Oct 25, 2017
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SQUAD and ARMA are straight up milsims that are too dense and clunky for the laymen and will never become 30 million sellers. PUBG hits the sweet spot
 

KHlover

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Oct 25, 2017
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So is battlefield 4 as the core gameplay in that is brilliant and I've played that for years. Mine and your opinions will always give games a deserving score in our minds but a critic is supposed to be more judgemental and look at games with a bit more scrutiny. A 10/10 implies perfection and it's far from that. Your opinion may give it a 10/10 and that's fine but your not "selling" your expertease at reviewing games like these so called critics, professional reviewers.

I also don't buy into its only the guys opinion, they should be more professional than that. Glad your enjoying the game anyway.

A 10/10 certainly does not imply perfection in any way in gaming reviews.
 

Doskoi Panda

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Oct 27, 2017
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A dog could tell PUBG has it's flaws, and therefore isn't a 10.

It's got 10 potential, but I don't think reviews should consider that.
Reviews and review scores aren't meant to be a measure for how -perfect- or -flawless- something is. All of my favorite games of the year have flaws. All of my favorite games of the year were voted a 10/10, somewhere.
 

Deleted member 896

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Oct 25, 2017
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I didn't say that but it makes you think and question the result. If you think this is a 10/10 then either standards have dropped or a "perfect" game is now a 11/10

I know this is one of those controversial statements that people never seem to agree on, but in terms of critical assessment very, very few places I'm aware of assert that their highest score is intended to reflect perfection or flawlessness.
 

TheWorthyEdge

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Oct 25, 2017
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In my opinion, more focused games should mean higher expectations should be placed on the stuff that is there. A game like Super Meat Boy better have solid performance, great controls and very limited bugs. Where as a game like Skyrim I can forgive more performance issues and bugs because the scale of the game is so much larger.

I just don't buy the idea that because the game is smaller in scale, we should somehow be more forgiving of faults.

And what are PUBG's faults? Curious. Because with 1.0 performance is great, gameplay is great, animations are good.
 

Crumb

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Oct 25, 2017
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So is battlefield 4 as the core gameplay in that is brilliant and I've played that for years. Mine and your opinions will always give games a deserving score in our minds but a critic is supposed to be more judgemental and look at games with a bit more scrutiny. A 10/10 implies perfection and it's far from that. Your opinion may give it a 10/10 and that's fine but your not "selling" your expertease at reviewing games like these so called critics, professional reviewers.

I also don't buy into its only the guys opinion, they should be more professional than that. Glad your enjoying the game anyway.
There's no such thing as a perfect video game. It's ok if you don't agree that it's a 10/10 game but acting like a critic is wrong for saying that is silly.
 

Lidl

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Dec 12, 2017
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So is battlefield 4 as the core gameplay in that is brilliant and I've played that for years. Mine and your opinions will always give games a deserving score in our minds but a critic is supposed to be more judgemental and look at games with a bit more scrutiny. A 10/10 implies perfection and it's far from that. Your opinion may give it a 10/10 and that's fine but your not "selling" your expertease at reviewing games like these so called critics, professional reviewers.

I also don't buy into its only the guys opinion, they should be more professional than that. Glad your enjoying the game anyway.
But GTA games get 10/10s every generation. And if you go back and play them 1 or 2 years later you'll cringe at how not 10/10 they are. So that assessment does not hold true in all cases.
 

Kudo

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Oct 25, 2017
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One of the reasons reviews usually mean nothing, when someone gives a game 5/10 and other 10/10 you know something is wrong.
I definitely think you can say a game is objectively good (Zelda, Mario, Soulsborne etc.) but this doesn't mean everyone will like it and some reviews will reflect that.
Personally speaking, perfect score means perfect game and PUBG is a far cry from that, but there's no doubt it's hella fun and I can understand someone in their honeymoon period can score it past all the glaring issues it has.
 

mephixto

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Oct 25, 2017
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Game is a lot of fun and I'm glad they took their time to focus on their 1.0 launch. Most of early access games get lost in a spiral of small of updates and never release.
 

Pandy

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's a fun enough game, but even on it's own terms it's still a bit of a mess. Not talking about performance, but inconsistent game structure, balance, physics, audio, UI, etc., etc.

I can see a potential version of this game being refined and worthy of a 10/10.
PUBG 1.0 is not that game.

EDIT: For clarity, thanks to my Steam pals the EA version is the PC game I've played most this year. So I am not trying to be dismissive, but hoping they can get it there in the future.
 

Goronmon

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Nov 9, 2017
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Tell me about how crazy it is that, with a thousand hours in ArmA, I went and spent another 500 hours playing PUBG.
If time played is the main metric we used to determine a games worth, then World of Warcaft is a 10/10 and everything else if basically a 1/10, at least from my perspective. Maybe Asheron's Call would come close.
 

GodofWine

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Oct 26, 2017
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Was anyone waiting for the 1.0 PC release reviews before deciding on the purchase of this game?!
 

Chamaeleonx

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Oct 27, 2017
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what about 5/5? what about 3/3?

i'm sure you see the limitation of this position.

I was purely talking about a 10 score system. The highest score always should be really hard to obtain otherwise it looses all meaning.

Objective reviews would be completely terrible and meaningless, and would make deciding whether a game is worth buying a thousand times harder.


That's like saying Overwatch wasn't finished until Sombra was released. Multiplayer games regularly release with a roadmap or announced DLC in the future.

I can agree with a pure objective review based on facts might not be ideal. As it was my mistake can I propose a mix of subjective and objective? For a lot of games I care about how it runs, how it looks and general fact based data as I would not trust most reviewers to match my taste in what I consider fun in a game.

In the end I probably simply want higher standards if you publish a review for an outlet and get payed for it. If I personally think a game is a 10/10 that is totally fine and should be respected. But I look at these outlets for objective views that are harsh and honest about the game and the state it was delivered in. Not mentioning technical shortcomings or other flaws does not make you look professional in my eyes.

PUBG is a fun game in a lot of ways, weather alone or with friends, just does not meet my standard of a perfect score.

Maybe I am to hardheaded though, I don't know. =/
I just want more, a striving for excellence, for perfection... . You code and polish your game until you are close to perfection, you have taken everything into account, ironed out every fault you could find and then release excellence. I know it sounds idealistic and not workable with the profit oriented game developing. Just at least a tiny bit... . =/

If games that drop below 30 FPS can never get a 10 ya'll got some explaining to do for the past 20 years.
As myself, I think the user you quoted probably would not rate all those 10/10 games a 10 either. I would imagine they are consistent on this issue.
 

Deleted member 896

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One of the reasons reviews usually mean nothing, when someone gives a game 5/10 and other 10/10 you know something is wrong.

Why? If there was only one correct view I don't know why we'd need so many reviews. Just have the ReviewBot 5000 play the game and give us the objective score. No need to wait for the Metacritic consensus or for my favorite site/reviewer to give me their take.
 

ghibli99

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Oct 27, 2017
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Glad so many people enjoy it. It's not for me, but I can easily see how it would be a 10/10 based on what it sets out to do.
 

cakely

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Oct 27, 2017
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10/10 perfect game, they can't come up with a single thing that could be improved about it.

Ok.

EDIT: I have no problems with a review score from any site, it's just an opinion. As an owner of PUBG I can easily find obvious things that can be improved about the game, so awarding a perfect score seems a little odd.
 

molnizzle

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Oct 25, 2017
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Was anyone waiting for the 1.0 PC release reviews before deciding on the purchase of this game?!
Not reviews, but I was waiting for it to leave early access, yeah.

10/10 perfect game, they can't come up with a single thing that could be improved about it.

Ok.

10/10 has never meant perfect. WTF?

Does a 5-star movie review mean a film is "perfect?" No? Then why the stupid ass double standard for video games?
 

Print Screen

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Nov 4, 2017
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A dog could tell PUBG has it's flaws, and therefore isn't a 10.

It's got 10 potential, but I don't think reviews should consider that.

"Battlegrounds still carries flaws from its earliest days" is one of the highlighted quotes on the review page. Nobody, including polygon, is arguing that PUBG isnt flawed. What they're arguing is that despite these flaws, it's still wildly and uniquely entertaining and thus deserving of a 10/10.

You can point to flaws that hamstring the experience for you, and explain why these should bring the score down. "[game] has it's flaws, and therefore isn't a 10" can be said about any game, including the ones you personally would give a 10.
 

chowyunfatt

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Oct 28, 2017
333
A 10/10 certainly does not imply perfection in any way in gaming reviews.
well what is then? Shouldn't there be a marker? I always thought 10/10 was. Maybe a game should be awarded a 10/10+ now? Surely there has to be a limit or a marker? A game with quite a lot of faults that gets a 10/10 from a so called professional just throws the whole critic score into irrelevance. I'm glad in my job I have a true marker of what perfection is as I'd go out of business pretty fast with such a leeway.
 

BernardoOne

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Oct 25, 2017
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10/10 perfect game, they can't come up with a single thing that could be improved about it.

Ok.
10/10 doesn't mean what you think it means.
well what is then? Shouldn't there be a marker? I always thought 10/10 was. Maybe a game should be awarded a 10/10+ now? Surely there has to be a limit or a marker? A game with quite a lot of faults that gets a 10/10 from a so called professional just throws the whole critic score into irrelevance. I'm glad in my job I have a true marker of what perfection is as I'd go out of business pretty fast with such a leeway.
There are no limit or markers, games are not objectively reviewed and neither should they. There are no perfect games in existence.