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CenturionNami

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There's a reviewer by the name of Jed Presgrove who writes for Slant Magazine, something i've seen been called a "hipster" publication. If a otherwise critically acclaimed game has a score that drags it down, it's from Slant Magazine. And it's written by Jed Presgrove. And honestly...that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that, or even being someone whose overly critical towards everything. If something is good, then the majority that knows it good, it drowns the other reviews out, but keeps the critical ones so people can see other people's viewpoints on them. Tom Chick (though I can never tell if he's trolling) has that reputation. However, Presgrove is pure bile and toxicity. His Slant reviews are often times questionable, little know fact he owns his own blog...in which things going from questionable, to insanity. He's discussed a bit in review threads, but I thought it would be okay to shed some light on him.


The entire review is pretty much a bunch of linguistic purple prose, and pop culture references on steroids.("Notwithstanding the gaming world's deification of Miyazaki, Bloodborne is a hack's version of Dark Souls. The former is noticeably faster due to the increased speed and stamina of the protagonist. In another way, Bloodborne turns its heritage into Looney Tunes. In Dark Souls, sneaking up on a black knight is a welcome discovery and builds mystery about the creature. In Bloodborne, stealth is expected, instructed, and even unintentionally humorous as you turn a sword into a big hammer and, as a depressing Foghorn Leghorn, smash the giant stone end of the weapon into enemies who might as well be sleeping dogs.") This kinda of stuff reads like mad ranting of a bad shitposter, but from the fact all of his reviews are consistently like this I think show's he's a little unhinged. In his Wolfenstein 2 ( https://gamebias.wordpress.com/2017...white-resistance/comment-page-1/#comment-4093) review he's angry the Nazi's are being portrayed as "simply monsters", and goes onto tangents about how he hates they didn't accurately portray the KKK true to history (basically them being associated with Nazis. Whatever the fuck that means).

It goes from bad, him trying to sound smart, to really toxic. He unironically calls Bloodborne a "disease" (I am not paraphrasing), claims it's sexist and gets upset at the fact it "attacks the Church" (Whatever the hell that means. He would also give a title a 1/5, for "offending his religion", so I think he's a religious individual ). He begins to personally attack the director of the game (alot of his reviews are him attacking individuals) and his Sekiro review (in which he gave the title a 2/5) is practically zero gameplay related, it's just him ranting about how he despises Miyisaki as a "auteur and hack". The fact Slant thought he was an objective source to do the review say's quite a bit about the site, considering the fact the review is basically revenge (for some reason.)

Metacritic is publishing his reviews, Opencritic is publishing his reviews. I find it odd, because these sites are putting up Reviews that are filled with childish attacks on people, an ego the size of a mountain, insane toxicity, and sometimes impotent rage. Because clearly, his reviews aren't professional to put it a tad bit mild.
 
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(should these type of threads be allowed here...?)

Some of his more positive reviews are not bad, but his negative reviews almost always read like he's trying to emulate Armond White. I'm not a fan.
 

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I thought this was going to be salty fanboy review complaining stuff but uh...yeah that's all really nuts.
 

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I will just say reviewers absolutely do not need to be "objective" and if he's reviewing things from some religious perspective or even just has off kilter preferences that's totally fine. Its probably useful to someone out there who has similar perspective on what they want from games (not me hah)
 

Strings

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I was expecting X WASN'T KILLED, IT WAS MURDERED guy honestly.

Dunno if there's a place for this kind of discussion though honestly. Feels weird to single out a single reviewer like this (god knows there's one in particular I have trouble not bringing up every so often, but feel dodgy about doing so anyway).
 

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Your OP seems strangely obsessive — you posted his freaking picture for crying out loud. Just don't read his stuff. Simple.
 

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Looking at this Woilfenstein review, I can already see you've either clearly misrepresented or misunderstood him. He complains about the Nazis being "monsters" thing because of a line of dialogue that the Nazis aren't monsters, but men. He is doing that to underline his point re: the game's story and it's gameplay being at odds with itself. The game wants to be Doom while waxing poetic about the nature of man and BJ wistfully recalling sweet memories. He's hardly quibbling that they are portrayed too negatively like you seem to be implying. Similarly your point about the KKK, he argues that they would not be using their imagery because they would not need to be anonymous, and that the Germans would not want some other groups iconography marching through the streets.


I'm not neccessarily agreeing with him, but you're not doing your argument any favors by clearly misrepresenting what he said
 
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I strongly disagree with virtually all this guys writing, his takes are strange at best, more often completely baffling but a call out with photo because he said mean things about games you and I like seems a bit kiwifarms
 
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CenturionNami

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Removed the photo. His Slant stuff is pretty...mean-spirited, but the blog (which I discovered by chance weirdly enough, I saw his name in the owner thing and I remember that drama he caused with the Zelda fiasco) I think is where the really toxic stuff is from.
 

Jintor

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I mean all sorts of crap is up on metacritic, whatever man. Just don't read his garbage if you think it's that bad.
 

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The last line of his Bloodborne review, "this poorly cloaked sequel is a disease".

Alright mate, calm down.
 

MegaXZero

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It goes from bad, him trying to sound smart, to really toxic.
Yeah I find a lot of his reviews can be summed up with this. It's like a thesaurus party.

But yeah idk if a thread is needed with a callout photo. I get it, since it helps to explains a good chunk of slant's odd reviews. But still, he's not actually doing harm is he?
 
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Is it though? I mean these reviews are public, feels like it should be OK to discuss them, especially considering the content of that Wolfenstein review.

Posting a picture of the guy in the OP is a little much, though.

I dunno, haven't read the reviews in question, but making weird highlight threads of individuals, because you don't like their reviews (which seems to be OP's main point?) is a little questionable at best.
 

Firmament1

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Worst journalist? That's a pretty odd way to spell William Usher.

But goddamn, those reviews are stupid.
 

Lunaray

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I don't like his reviews, but I really question the motivation of someone who makes a callout thread singling out his writing and plastering his photo. This will not engender any productive discussion.
 

Hella

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I feel like the opening line of the OP second paragraph gives away what this thread is really about. Let's not make such mean-spirited threads a thing--it's OK for reviewers to have a different opinion (or even a different critical analysis of a thing) than you, the fan.
 
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Honestly, a call out thread that seems specifically designed to spark outrage and anger to a targeted person is way more toxic than any review could be
 

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OP I feel like you are misrepresenting his Wolfenstein 2 review a bit. He seems to be complaining that the game has tonal problems, not that it needs to sympathize with Nazis. Seems like his argument is that there is no depth to the portrayal, and thus the game really doesn't say anything about the dangers of fascism and how that kind of ideology can grip a society.

Not saying I agree but I don't see it as pro Nazi at all
 

CaviarMeths

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Hmm...

- American
- Religious
- Whines about Nazis being too evil
- Whines about the KKK not being shown "historically correct"

I feel like I know everything there is to know about Jed Presgrove from just these points.
 

FF Seraphim

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Are you people seriously saying we shouldn't discuss such things on this site? It is best to make people knowledgable of such toxic behavior so they can either be able to avoid it or learn from it. There are posts all the time pointing out toxic parts of the community. If people cannot discuss it here, then where else could they?
As for the reviewer, god damn what was he thinking with the Wolfenstein review?
 

L Thammy

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and goes onto tangents about how he hates they didn't accurately portray the KKK true to history (basically them being associated with Nazis. Whatever the fuck that means
I have no idea about anything else, but America was immensely influential on Nazism. The KKK demonstrated to the Nazis how systematic racial oppression could work. They praised Henry Ford for his dissemination of anti-Semitic rhetoric. Their racist pseudoscience took inspiration from Americans such as Theodore Lothrop Stoddard. This isn't necessarily a bad argument to make.
 

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Are you people seriously saying we shouldn't discuss such things on this site? It is best to make people knowledgable of such toxic behavior so they can either be able to avoid it or learn from it. There are posts all the time pointing out toxic parts of the community. If people cannot discuss it here, then where else could they?
As for the reviewer, god damn what was he thinking with the Wolfenstein review?

I haven't read through all the guy's reviews, but others have already pointed out the OP has either misunderstood or perhaps misrepresented the author's views. Is he even that toxic?

Did you even review the Wolfenstein review yourself, or are you just going off of what the OP said?
 

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The work of one voice actor in particular, Chris Hackney (who plays Dimitri of the Blue Lions), epitomizes the ultimate theme of Three Houses. Dimitri, the son of a murdered king, initially seems like a well-meaning, well-put-together noble of the church who wants everyone to get along despite his participation in killings. But events cause him to reach a breaking point, and it's at this juncture where Hackney's genius comes into full bloom as he injects a distinctive type of campy despair and anger into Dimitri's voice. The apoplectic evolution of Dimitri is a tragicomical take on how people hide their demons in trying to appear holier than others. That Three Houses can deliver such a powerful, simple statement about humanity, within an elongated structure that would weigh down the messages of other games, is extraordinary.
Yeah my eyes are rolling into the back of my head in this one.
 

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The personal call out seems unnecessary and the thread doesn't look like it'll produce good discussion. Locked.
 
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