Star Wars Battlefront II |OT| The Circle is Now Complete

giallo · Dec 26, 2017

Wonderment said:
This game probably sold a bunch of bundles and was a common enough Christmas present. But on Christmas night almost 13000 were playing the first game according to swbstats. It's been at around 20000 peak daily for the first month of the second game's release.

I've owned the second game since release and still can't play all the heroes and villains I can play in the first game. I can't play the modes offline like I can in the first game. If people experience half the rubber banding, lag, and matchmaking delays I have during the first month, they won't be catching up unless they spend their entire week off playing this game day and night.

But until that changes to where most players will be able to play all the heroes in multiplayer in, say, no more than 10 hours investing in on-line playtime, I don't think they're going to stick around this environment that long.

That's true. I have yet to unlock a single hero or villain. I've been putting all of my earnings in to those pesky loot boxes. At some point, I'll have to save up, and get Vader.

And I hear you about the matchmaking. It's been my biggest grip. Well, that and the weird framerate stuttering, rubber-banding and awful load times between the lobby, and waiting to get in to a game.

I really hope we see some solid performance improvements with the next patch.

curb · Dec 26, 2017

Hey BF2 Era, I bought this yesterday and I've got a couple questions.

Will more modes be coming to Arcade? I was hoping there'd be a vehicle mode like Fighter Squadron in BF1.

I was shortsighted and didn't buy the version on PSN that had the Jedi Training costume for Rey and now I can't upgrade without paying way more. Is it known if the preorder costumes will ever be available for purchase or is it know if there will ever be something like the Resistance outfit for Rey?

OmgBanana · Dec 26, 2017

Plasma said:
Constantly getting dropped into empty lobbies on the PC, is there any way to view the player count? I find it really hard to believe that nobody is playing.

Def something's up on your end. I don't have any problems finding full lobbies in a matter of seconds. Haven't had any since launch actually.

Olengie · Dec 26, 2017

curb said:
Hey BF2 Era, I bought this yesterday and I've got a couple questions.

Will more modes be coming to Arcade? I was hoping there'd be a vehicle mode like Fighter Squadron in BF1.

I was shortsighted and didn't buy the version on PSN that had the Jedi Training costume for Rey and now I can't upgrade without paying way more. Is it known if the preorder costumes will ever be available for purchase or is it know if there will ever be something like the Resistance outfit for Rey?

They said they are working on more single player content. But who knows when that will happen

Barrel_Roll · Dec 26, 2017

curb said:
Hey BF2 Era, I bought this yesterday and I've got a couple questions.

Will more modes be coming to Arcade? I was hoping there'd be a vehicle mode like Fighter Squadron in BF1.

I was shortsighted and didn't buy the version on PSN that had the Jedi Training costume for Rey and now I can't upgrade without paying way more. Is it known if the preorder costumes will ever be available for purchase or is it know if there will ever be something like the Resistance outfit for Rey?

The developers have been remarkably quiet since the game launched. Hopefully the new year will change things, since that's when all the holidays will be out of the way. I haven't heard anything about them adding the specific things you mentioned, but that could change later on.

curb · Dec 26, 2017

Olengie said:
They said they are working on more single player content. But who knows when that will happen

Barrel_Roll said:
The developers have been remarkably quiet since the game launched. Hopefully the new year will change things, since that's when all the holidays will be out of the way. I haven't heard anything about them adding the specific things you mentioned, but that could change later on.

Thanks for the answers.

MAX PAYMENT · Dec 26, 2017

curb said:
Hey BF2 Era, I bought this yesterday and I've got a couple questions.

Will more modes be coming to Arcade? I was hoping there'd be a vehicle mode like Fighter Squadron in BF1.

I was shortsighted and didn't buy the version on PSN that had the Jedi Training costume for Rey and now I can't upgrade without paying way more. Is it known if the preorder costumes will ever be available for purchase or is it know if there will ever be something like the Resistance outfit for Rey?

The deluxe edition costume for rey is terrible. It's just the same thing with different colors. In the game files, there's her resistance outfit from TLJ, which is great. So it will come eventually.

curb · Dec 26, 2017

MAX PAYMENT said:
The deluxe edition costume for rey is terrible. It's just the same thing with different colors. In the game files, there's her resistance outfit from TLJ, which is great. So it will come eventually.

I do like that costume in general so I feel it might have been worth the extra $11 CAD for me to get it. Too late now though. I'll definitely take the resistance outfit as a close second. I really just find the scavenger outfit too visually bland on screen.

chancellor · Dec 26, 2017

So I worked out that the best way to farm for battle points on the star killer base map is to use the speeder and just run people over.m that were running to the objective. It seems like such a daft way to play but I got to go as a hero for all the phases afterwards haha

Cosmic Forge · Dec 26, 2017

The lag is at an all time high today. Sweet baby Jesus. I'm watching impact grenades get thrown, stick to the surface, and blow up 2 seconds later. Bodies sliding around on the ground like rag doll Ice Capades. Yeesh.

Spartancarver · Dec 26, 2017

2Bee said:
It was never pay 2 win and never as bad as the internet made it seem is my point. Do you seriously think a player can go from zero to incredible from just throwing money at this game?

Yes.

Interceptor with blue or purple elite pilot (tighter turning radius) is unbeatable in SA by anything besides another similarly geared interceptor.

Vader or Palpatine with the right blue/purple cards can demolish teams, yet die every easily with weaker cards or the wrong cards

Those are just two examples, but again, trying to claim that the game wasn't initially Pay2win is total and shameful revisionist BS.

Yes it was 100% as bad as the internet made it seem. I don't care how many times I have to repeat it, because apparently EA's strategy of waiting quietly for people with short memories (or who weren't playing the game at launch) to forget this shit is somehow actually working.

It was Pay2win at launch

The lootcrate outrage was 100% justified

End of discussion.

Oh, and the crates do have weapon drops in them. I have gotten multiple weapons from crates, including the CR-2, IQA-99, and the S-5. So there's that too. You used to be able to pay money for crates that get you weapons which are drastically superior to the starting weapons for each class. Objectively Pay2win

Tendo · Dec 26, 2017

Finally got the notification after a match that I completed the defender challenge. Afterwards I go to the menu to redeem it and... it still says 4/5 :( Anyone have this happen before?

Olengie · Dec 26, 2017

Finally killed 25 Hero Ships as a fighter. Bomber Torpedo Kills should be easy. Hard one should be kill Marked Heroes while Marked

Darth Smurf X · Dec 27, 2017

Tendo said:
Finally got the notification after a match that I completed the defender challenge. Afterwards I go to the menu to redeem it and... it still says 4/5 :( Anyone have this happen before?

Yes. I even made a video about it. But then the next day, I beat that same map again and instead of quitting out immediately to claim my prize, I played 2 more maps. This time the challenge registered correctly.

Deleted member 16452 · Dec 27, 2017

Spartancarver said:
Yes.

Interceptor with blue or purple elite pilot (tighter turning radius) is unbeatable in SA by anything besides another similarly geared interceptor.

Vader or Palpatine with the right blue/purple cards can demolish teams, yet die every easily with weaker cards or the wrong cards

Those are just two examples, but again, trying to claim that the game wasn't initially Pay2win is total and shameful revisionist BS.

Yes it was 100% as bad as the internet made it seem. I don't care how many times I have to repeat it, because apparently EA's strategy of waiting quietly for people with short memories (or who weren't playing the game at launch) to forget this shit is somehow actually working.

It was Pay2win at launch

The lootcrate outrage was 100% justified

End of discussion.

Oh, and the crates do have weapon drops in them. I have gotten multiple weapons from crates, including the CR-2, IQA-99, and the S-5. So there's that too. You used to be able to pay money for crates that get you weapons which are drastically superior to the starting weapons for each class. Objectively Pay2win

I'm rank 28 and never ever seen a weapon in a regular crate.

You actually got those weapons from all the deluxe edition and preorder stuff, not the regular crates.

From Gamestops website:

Features:

Elite Officer Upgrade Pack:

Blurrg-1120 + enhanced grip modification

Battle Command epic ability

Heavy Metal Upgrade Pack:

FWMB-10 "Megablaster" + barrel vent modification

Personal Shield epic ability

Armored Assault Upgrade Pack:

CR-2 + trigger modification

Grenade epic ability

Master Specialist Upgrade Pack:

A280-CFE + scope modification

Laser Trip Mine epic ability

Up to 3 days early-access to Star Wars Battlefront II

Star Wars Battlefront II: The Last Jedi Heroes, including:

Exclusive** Star Wars: The Last Jedi themed looks for two hero characters:

Kylo Ren

Rey

1 epic ability modifier that upgrades Millennium Falcon to the Star Wars: The Last Jedi Millennium Falcon with updated sounds and look

2 epic ability modifiers for Rey that allow you to control the minds of your enemies and create confusion on the battleground

2 epic ability modifiers for Kylo Ren that allow you to freeze and pull opponents as you use the Force

1 epic ability modifier for a new First Order hero ship

Basically the deluxe edition gives you the 200 kill weapons for each trooper class.

As for the rest, that is your opinion on things, and I can respect it. I just see things differently when it comes to the pay2win stuff. I've dominated as Vader with no cards and now mostly just white cards. While I suck with the starfighters and no amount of cards will make me good at that mode.

Cosmic Forge · Dec 27, 2017

I have a headache from all the Christmas kids playing "hey let's spawn as 19 specialists and snipe the capture area, instead of physically moving into the area to capture it".

... On Jakku platform point. As Imperials. Sniping from the low ground.

Sigh.

Spartancarver · Dec 27, 2017

2Bee said:
I'm rank 28 and never ever seen a weapon in a regular crate.

You actually got those weapons from all the deluxe edition and preorder stuff, not the regular crates.

Basically the deluxe edition gives you the 200 kill weapons for each trooper class.

I'm rank 49 and got those 3 weapons in random crates I opened through my course of playing the game. And the IQA and S-5 are the 2nd unlocks for their respective classes, not what you get from Deluxe edition.

Also, I don't own the Deluxe edition lol.

It's documented on reddit as well as earlier in this thread. You can get powerful and permanent weapon unlocks as rare items in the loot crates which formerly were purchasable with real money.

Deleted member 16452 · Dec 27, 2017

Spartancarver said:
I'm rank 49 and got those 3 weapons in random crates I opened through my course of playing the game. And the IQA and S-5 are the 2nd unlocks for their respective classes, not what you get from Deluxe edition.

Also, I don't own the Deluxe edition lol.

It's documented on reddit as well as earlier in this thread. You can get powerful and permanent weapon unlocks as rare items in the loot crates which formerly were purchasable with real money.

I stand corrected then, they must be super rare.

Lucky you that got them before unlocking them through normal play then, specially since 2 of those are the simple 50 kill weapons like you said.

Spartancarver · Dec 27, 2017

So it looks like modders are doing DICE's job and adding in cosmetic changes, improved lightsaber VFX, CIS paintjobs on the vehicles.

I wonder if these are safe to run during online matches

Loverdose · Dec 27, 2017

Got this on PS4 and do not regret one bit. It is a much better experience than PC where i get shot at and killed without seeing anybody. I am mostly noob for sure, but can hold my own. I am consistant to top 5 in PS4, and never could get 10 kills on PC. Dunno why.

Still, i think it was pay2win at launch and now its fine. Seriously though, let"s really hope they don't forget this game and add : maps, mode and customization.

Luminish · Dec 27, 2017

I don't think grind to win is a great situation either. Especially while it's still balanced in an intentionally frustrating way to make people want to pay to win.

I find the 40% extra HP booster especially frustrating. That's a lot of HP and is very easy to see when you're robbed thanks to that.

PintSizedSlasher · Dec 27, 2017

thepotatoman said:
I don't think grind to win is a great situation either. Especially while it's still balanced in an intentionally frustrating way to make people want to pay to win.

I find the 40% extra HP booster especially frustrating. That's a lot of HP and is very easy to see when you're robbed thanks to that.

Which HP booster are we talking about? Asking for a friend.

OmgBanana · Dec 27, 2017

Olengie said:
Hard one should be kill Marked Heroes while Marked

Go for Boba when you can. Not only are you a harder target to kill, but you also have the burst to actually secure the kill yourself.

Spartancarver · Dec 27, 2017

PintSizedSlasher said:
Which HP booster are we talking about? Asking for a friend.

Fighters and Bombers get a 40% heath bonus with Epic level reinforced hull

PintSizedSlasher · Dec 27, 2017

Spartancarver said:
Fighters and Bombers get a 40% heath bonus with Epic level reinforced hull

Epic is 20%

Spartancarver · Dec 27, 2017

PintSizedSlasher said:
Epic is 20%

Oh neat, it was nerfed? Could have sworn it was 40 at some point

Tendo · Dec 27, 2017

Darth Smurf X said:
Yes. I even made a video about it. But then the next day, I beat that same map again and instead of quitting out immediately to claim my prize, I played 2 more maps. This time the challenge registered correctly.

I was afraid of that. Took me forever to end up on that map with a team that actually played the objective. Ugh. Got it again twice last night with teams focused on kills instead of objective defense. Frustrating.

Olengie · Dec 27, 2017

OmgBanana said:
Go for Boba when you can. Not only are you a harder target to kill, but you also have the burst to actually secure the kill yourself.

I had fun playing as Finn. Had some leveled Star Cards and it was fun spamming abilities. Lol

HellforLeather · Dec 27, 2017

Cosmic Forge said:
I have a headache from all the Christmas kids playing "hey let's spawn as 19 specialists and snipe the capture area, instead of physically moving into the area to capture it".

... On Jakku platform point. As Imperials. Sniping from the low ground.

Sigh.

Yeah I dable with the sniper class but I dont think Ive played another game thats made the sniper class viable being used for assault more than this game. The infiltration mode is really good and even most of the sniper weapons can be used fairly effectively at medium ranges. The only time I hang back as a sniper is when its actually good for the team to do so, like sniping players trying to use disruptors.

Cosmic Forge · Dec 27, 2017

HellforLeather said:
Yeah I dable with the sniper class but I dont think Ive played another game thats made the sniper class viable being used for assault more than this game. The infiltration mode is really good and even most of the sniper weapons can be used fairly effectively at medium ranges. The only time I hang back as a sniper is when its actually good for the team to do so, like sniping players trying to use disruptors.

By far the best use of sniper setups. Open maps. First phase. Shutting down ion rocketeers. Excellent use of the class. I do this myself. Sometimes I'll use trip mine instead of improved binocs to trap the cases themselves.

PintSizedSlasher · Dec 27, 2017

I'm becoming increasingly annoyed by the presence of enforcers/aerials in the smaller modes. Especially Wookiees. I like my Blast pure and simple -_-

Cosmic Forge · Dec 27, 2017

Anyone know if there's a cap on health regen speed? Been meaning to test Officer Presence and Survivalist stacking with 2+ Officers.

Spartancarver · Dec 27, 2017

What happened with that Holiday playlist that was supposed to go live today?

curb · Dec 27, 2017

I've messed around with the game a little more. I love some of the little touches like the bunk room on Kamino from Clone Wars.

Olengie · Dec 27, 2017

Spartancarver said:
Yes.

Interceptor with blue or purple elite pilot (tighter turning radius) is unbeatable in SA by anything besides another similarly geared interceptor.

Funny. I got that in that one Celebration Lootbox. I still die from other pilots who have no cards or just uncommon cards. But then I think it was likely because they got the jump on me.

Tendo · Dec 27, 2017

I have like 1 or 2 cards on most ships and classes most of them at the first level. I'm consistently in the top half of the score board. I finished first in a round of star fighter using only a bomber which had no cards equipped on it. I dunno. I have fun blowing stuff up. I'm not a top tier player so I mostly just ignore the star card stuff and I'm doing well enough. Game is fun. I hope that it continues to get supported with new maps and heroes. I'm worried that low sales will impact the DLC we may have gotten had sales met expectations.

Olengie · Dec 27, 2017

I personally prefer the Prequel Era Starfighter Assault Maps.

I guess the Clones vs Droids really appeal to me.

DustyVonErich · Dec 28, 2017

Man, these glitches in Strike are killing me.

It won't let anyone on the team recover the package once the first package runner is killed. Making the game unwinnable.

Yesterday again it won't let the team disarm explosives. Again making the game unwinnable. Wtf.

And to top it all off, assholes on the other team were taunting when half my team quit out. That shit usually doesn't affect me at all, but in this instance I'm like "What did you accomplish?". You beat a team 8 on 4 that has glitched objectives.

MAX PAYMENT · Dec 28, 2017

Olengie said:
I personally prefer the Prequel Era Starfighter Assault Maps.

I guess the Clones vs Droids really appeal to me.

Craziness. X wings and tie fighters are way cooler.

Deleted member 16452 · Dec 28, 2017

I went from getting Crait all the time, to almost never getting it. :(

If DICE could only ever add one more thing to this game I would definitely pick a server browser, or at the very least the ability to queue for specific maps like in BF2015.

HellforLeather · Dec 28, 2017

Olengie said:
Funny. I got that in that one Celebration Lootbox. I still die from other pilots who have no cards or just uncommon cards. But then I think it was likely because they got the jump on me.

If you have the tightest turning radius then yeah, you should win any loop-de-loop battle but yeah, anybody who is coming in from across the map could still just blast you out of the sky pretty quick.

Deleted member 1627 · Dec 28, 2017

PintSizedSlasher said:
I'm becoming increasingly annoyed by the presence of enforcers/aerials in the smaller modes. Especially Wookiees. I like my Blast pure and simple -_-

Wookiee's are straight up broken in every mode. How they haven't been nerfed yet boggles my mind.

Nephilim · Dec 28, 2017

I don't think they will add a conquest mode to this game. It would be great since i love this mode, but i suppouse they want conquest to be a Battlefield specific mode and so to keep both franchise distinct from each other. Only my suggestion.

Wandering Soul · Dec 28, 2017

I still can't believe team balancing isn't a thing here yet. It's even worse now with all the new Christmas players but it was a problem before that anyway. Just complete steamrolls one way or the other and the only "solution" is to quit out of the lobby and hope for a more balanced one. I had a match yesterday where 5 mins into the game I had like 20+ eliminations and the 2nd place player on my team had THREE with the rest of the team being 0-3 eliminations also. Of course, the other team's top half of the scoreboard is all at 10+ eliminations. I wouldn't care either about kills when someone is actually on the objective but that's been a rare sight recently too.

HellforLeather · Dec 28, 2017

Nephilim said:
I don't think they will add a conquest mode to this game. It would be great since i love this mode, but i suppouse they want conquest to be a Battlefield specific mode and so to keep both franchise distinct from each other. Only my suggestion.

They are pretty distinct in gameplay and I dont think a mode would change that. I think the biggest obstacle to introducing conquest is the map design. The larger maps are basically wide open corridors and not conducive to the free form point capturing of conquest.

MAX PAYMENT · Dec 28, 2017

HellforLeather said:
They are pretty distinct in gameplay and I dont think a mode would change that. I think the biggest obstacle to introducing conquest is the map design. The larger maps are basically wide open corridors and not conducive to the free form point capturing of conquest.

I think even the town hallway that is kashyyk would work as a conquest map with 3 points. There's enough terrain and cover on the sides for flanking.

PanzerKraken · Dec 28, 2017

Another day, more silence. They really are letting this one burn.

Nephilim said:
I don't think they will add a conquest mode to this game. It would be great since i love this mode, but i suppouse they want conquest to be a Battlefield specific mode and so to keep both franchise distinct from each other. Only my suggestion.

The maps are not designed for conquest, they are all linear rectangle shaped maps with linear corridors created for objective assault mode. They will have to make lot of map alterations and new maps for decent conquest mode.

HellforLeather · Dec 28, 2017

MAX PAYMENT said:
I think even the town hallway that is kashyyk would work as a conquest map with 3 points. There's enough terrain and cover on the sides for flanking.

yeah there are definitely a few maps it could work with. Hoth is probably the most viable other one and maybe Theed. Im just not sure if it would be enough to flesh out and entire mode. Also, one thing that really bothered me about the last game is the 40 different modes they had and how it would split up the player base or there would be modes you wanted to play with nobody in them. I think the game is better with fewer, better thought out modes.

Gunner · Dec 28, 2017

Olengie said:
Funny. I got that in that one Celebration Lootbox. I still die from other pilots who have no cards or just uncommon cards. But then I think it was likely because they got the jump on me.

The turning radius card is only useful for dogfight chasing, which is what you should avoid at all costs in SA. Best way to down opposing pilots is to stay just outside the furball radius and fire at a distance. It takes far less effort, regardless of what cards your target has equipped.

OmgBanana · Dec 28, 2017

Since Christmas I've gone from 4KD to literally 50KD ratio. Every single game I absolutely destroy everyone at the beginning and have to kill myself with the respawn button to get a hero, with whom I then go on to wreck some more (hello Palp). Something has to be done quick. Winning on Jakku (first order), Kamino (empire) and Crait (first order) is cake. Just had a game on Crait where I was literally at their spawn deep in the cave. Madness I tell you.

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