That's why I don't like real world in videogames, If they made a fictitious world we can assume He's whatever we want.
I can't think of a single hispanic videogame character.
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I always thought that Hispanic as a term for Spanish speaking was a roughly equivalent term to "English speaker" for people from America, England, Australia, etc. There are some distinctions like Brazil not actually being Spanish-speaking, but it seems pretty close.
Now this is shocking for me. As a Spaniard American, no one ever even considers Spain as a possible country of origin when I refer to myself as Hispanic. A large majority of people I've encountered hear "Hispanic" and automatically assume Mexico or South America.
Football is the biggest sport though and you barely see any green in it.
I know the flag of my own country peeps, i know why green takes most of it and what it represents. Its still meaningless to the point you don't use flag colours as the main driving force for designing a character. You don't see japanese characters always dressed in white and red. Ken doesn't wear a bandana with the american flag on it or other american characters have blue skin with white stars.
So it probably wouldn't count to the op. It's wrong, but I think that's what he's narrowed it down to. That's the representation he's asking for because it's the least popular. Game publishers dislike it so much that they'll throw people a bone by giving their characters a Spanish name and country of origin but still have them be white and speak perfect American English. That's not what the op wants. It's an obvious cop out by publishers and that's what bothers him.
Japanese in general do imo, I dont know why but its welcomed. Many anime and their games have Hispanic culture influences. Bleach (entirety of Hueco Mundo, Sado/Chad), games mentioned, etc.
I don't see what's offensive about being mistaken for a Mexican. Europeans go through the same thing. I'd have to actually approach you and ask you if you're Mexican or not. It'd be the only way I'd know and I'm obviously not going to do that and that's why it's an unsolvable problem. That's why I just roll with it.
I suppose you could wear a T-shirt that says "I'm not Mexican, I'm Colombian" or whatever you are on it. That'd be the only thing close to a "fix." But thatd just be downright silly.
This times 1000. Took the words right out of my mouth, amigo.
You know what I'd like as well from game writers? Learn proper last names.
What the fuck is that Guerro (Uncharted Vita), Vialpando (Villalpando) shit? At least Evil Within 2 got stuff right with that. Sorry I can't place more examples, but a lot of people might get what I'm getting at.
What the fuck is that Guerro (Uncharted Vita), Vialpando (Villalpando) shit? At least Evil Within 2 got stuff right with that. Sorry I can't place more examples, but a lot of people might get what I'm getting at.
If someone mistook me for Australian or American I would be offended
There are quite a lot of hispanic characters OP. This thread is full of them.
Just by the way you look?
A lot of times I chalk this up to Japanese devs just making up stuff that sounds "Western" to them, but Uncharted really doesn't have even that excuse.
No we don't. People in Spain only do it when trying to insult them.
It's kind of annoying but I personally don't find it offensive. People are always shocked when I tell them I'm Arab because most Syrians have a lighter skin tone and they assume all Arabs are brown Saudis with scraggly beards and turbans and machine guns.
If you look at me I can easily be spanish, portuguese, greek, italian. When I say that I'm portuguese they just go "ohhhh...yeah, Portugal!". Some even think that we belong to Spain and THAT is offensive (but I still don't get offended by it because is mostly ignorance)
There's nothing to be offended by it imo
Edit: I just need to start avoiding threads like this or just stay on topic and block out the other stuff.
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And the worst part is, he's the only one from the original killzone cast that survives.
Garcia Hotspur(Shadows of the Damned)
Seabastian Castellanos(Evil Within series)
Kait Diaz(Gears of War 4)
Dominic "Dom" Santiago(Gears of War 1-3)
Nick Ramos(Dead Rising 3)
This only took me a couple of minutes but Hispanic characters do have some modern time decent enough characters. I didn't even list Rico Rodriguez or some other better known Hispanic characters. Are these ICONIC ala Metroid or Mario? No probably not but these are decent enough known characters of modern gaming era.
Latino: Shortened version of "Latinoamericano", which are Americans that come from a country whose language and culture and predominantly rooted in latin. Spaniards are not Americans and hence are not Latino nor identify as such. Brazilians are latinos because they language and culture and predominantly rooted in latin.
Hispanic: In the context we are currently covering it's a shortened version of "Hispanoamerican", which are Americans that come from a Spanish-speaking country. Spaniards are not Americans and hence are not Hispanic in this sense nor identify as such. Brazilians do not speak Spanish so they are "Lusoamericans", not "Hispanoamericans". It's a bit fuzzy and somewhat confusing as it's not really used much for self-identification purporses, but simply as a cultural term like "Western European".
People who speak Spanish are called "Hispanohablantes". They can be of any race or any nationality just like "English-speaking".
Spanish/Spaniard: Someone from Spain, be it on a national or ethnic level.
Source: I'm Spanish.
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Anyways, it's sad how most examples in this thread conform to the same roles and stereotypes. Would love to see more games from these areas.
Hispanic: In the context we are currently covering it's a shortened version of "Hispanoamerican", which are Americans that come from a Spanish-speaking country. Spaniards are not Americans and hence are not Hispanic in this sense nor identify as such. Brazilians do not speak Spanish so they are "Lusoamericans", not "Hispanoamericans". It's a bit fuzzy and somewhat confusing as it's not really used much for self-identification purporses, but simply as a cultural term like "Western European".
People who speak Spanish are called "Hispanohablantes". They can be of any race or any nationality just like "English-speaking".
Spanish/Spaniard: Someone from Spain, be it on a national or ethnic level.
Source: I'm Spanish.
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Anyways, it's sad how most examples in this thread conform to the same roles and stereotypes. Would love to see more games from these areas.
What are you even talking about, You do know there's black Hispanics right?
From seeing a few post, I see people don't know that Freddie Prinze Jr is Puerto Rican by way of his Grandfather
The thing is, "Hispanic" (hispano) is used with a meaning in Spain and the rest of the Spanish-speaking world which is different from the meaning it has in the US.
In Spain, a hispano is someone who has Spanish as their native language, thus coming from a native Spanish-speaking society. It does not have any racial, ethnic or even cultural correlations beyond the language. This makes sense; the "Hispanic world" is a very diverse place comprising three (four if you count Equatorial Guinea) continents with hundreds of ethnicities and cultures. The only real, tangible thing all these countries have in common is the Spanish language, a remnant of the times of the Spanish empire. Nobody uses this term for self-identification though. This is similar in Latin America.
In the US, "Hispanic" had originally the same meaning as in Spain, but with time it has moved into a sort of pseudo-racial category, alongside other terms like "Latino" (which many people use interchangeably) and recently, "Spanish".
"Hispanic" does not mean "Spain's language and culture", just "Spain's language", because there isn't a single culture in Spain (go ask Catalans or Basques) and there isn't a single culture all across Hispanic Americans. Mexicans are very different from Dominicans which are very different from Uruguayans, and so on.
People outside the US sometimes take offense at (or criticise) the use of term, because Americans use it as sort of "umbrella" term that puts together a lot of different people that don't really have that much in common.
Not sure but his name is Gabriel Reyes. If i had to guess Mexican like Sombra. Dont they have a past together from Blackwatch?
Maybe try actually reading the OP before posting, or you know contributing and showing how hes "wrong".
Edit: Confronational, changed to promote dialogue.
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I...don't think this is an outrage thread at all. It seems to just be asking questions and asking for examples, which plenty of people are offering. Some of us are a bit more ignorant and it's great to have someone celebrate Hispanic characters and explain what "Hispanic" actually means in various contexts.
Jiminez Garcia from Shenmue II. He's a Mexican travelling through China, his zodiac sign is Virgo, and he has blood-type B. His half-Spanish, half-Japanese greeting is one of my favorite random moments from the start of that game. I...I think they made him speak all English in the US release though?
The one saying "fake outrage thread!" is the only one outraged. Never fails.
good post!
Hey now, the premise was never hostile. From basically the first page, this has been a showcase of people's memories of hispanic characters, and commenting on patterns. I love this thread.
My guess? DF, Mexico.
What are you talking about? He plays NOTHING like Ramon.
Anyways, Fighting games usually actually do a good job with having characters from all around the world, SNK games specially seem to care a lot for Hispanic representation.
Unfortunatley for Mexicans theyre almost always luchadors when boxing has the more world wide appeal and there have been many greats.
While I don't disagree on a personal level, I can understand why others take more issue with it. My girlfriend is Filipino and has had a guy just come up to her and start naming off a bunch of Asian countries before ending on "well you look like my Vietnamese ex". The shock and awe I sometimes get when I say I'm not White is also annoying.
Like I said I wouldn't personally say I take offense to it, but I would say it's at the very least a bit irritating and I can understand why someone would.
Videogames are always like that.
On the little hispanic representation we have is just Spanish and Mexican people.
Peruvians, chileans, bolivians, ecuatorians and the rest don't exist.
Can you mention one peruvian VG character on a minor role?
Representation in VG just means "american big minority representation" with some european and asian (Korea, China and Japan) representation.
On the little hispanic representation we have is just Spanish and Mexican people.
Peruvians, chileans, bolivians, ecuatorians and the rest don't exist.
Can you mention one peruvian VG character on a minor role?
Representation in VG just means "american big minority representation" with some european and asian (Korea, China and Japan) representation.
His lore says his tribe's lands extended from northern mexico to southern USA but Shadaloo took over some of the territories in the USA (and kidnapped his sister) so his people was forced to go to their mexican territories.
This is most likely based on one of the several norther native tribes that had territories on what is the modern day mexico/USA border like the Apache or the Yaqui.
As a mexican i don't have a problem with this, Lucha is one of the defining pop culture traditions of mexico and it makes sense for a fighting game, just like you'll always have karatekas and Sumos from japan, Thai Kickboxers, Chinese Kung Fu fighters and American Boxers.
Just to think that here at Brasil there are towns where people speak mostly german (Pomerode, SC) and the bias on this thread is so strong. You guys don't learn any history about South and Central América, yeah? Not even basic stuff? The upbringing of the Provincias Unidas del Río de la Plata, the basic Falklands War which is high school stuff? To name a few. Well that really just shows that ethnicity in video-games here will be always like that. Same "latino" with no diversity. USA education seal of quality for devs I guess.
Most countries don't learn a lot about other counties outside of the world wars and huge events that have had an effect against them.
Like, have you learned about the war of 1812?
Sean and Laura from SF are half Brazilian, half Japanese
Arnaud Vasquez from Wild Arms 4 has a Hispanic-sounding last name even if he looks like pretty boy anime character:
Arnaud Vasquez from Wild Arms 4 has a Hispanic-sounding last name even if he looks like pretty boy anime character:
We have a pretty big Mexican population for us to learn from. Not to mention it's a border country. It's why an American studio like Disney can feel comfortable making the film Coco
That's because a good majority of people from Spain and Argentina for instance don't consider themselves Hispanics.. For some is beneath them despite speaking the same language, us Caribbean Latinos just view them as Europeans since that's what they prefer to be called and their "castellano" talk.
Sean and Laura from SF are half Brazilian, half Japanese
Sean isn't Hispanic tho.
I don't remember ever seeing an Argentinian character in a game for example.