And Jim Jefferies says his own wife belongs doing chores?
What do you think matters more? How they behave when they're not in character, or rude or crass things they say in character to make an audience laugh?
Dave Chappelle calls Louis C.K. accusers ‘weak’ and ‘brittle’ in new special
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And Jim Jefferies says his own wife belongs doing chores?
What do you think matters more? How they behave when they're not in character, or rude or crass things they say in character to make an audience laugh?
Absolutely. I for the life of me cannot think of any given situation where using the hard -er would be appropriate. I feel like marginalized groups should stop using the terms in totality when insulting others in our in-groups.
We shouldn't say "Stop being a faggot." "You're acting like a tranny." "You're being a hard -er." because the self-empowerment is lost immediately because we would be using these terms to demean ourselves rather than use them in ways to remove the hurt from the words.
It's a standup routine. And not even a particularly offensive one.
Of course, and you can say racist things without hating people of other races, that doesn't make it okay to do.
Cream has flaunted her blackness several times in our conversations so she could say it, too.
Please respond to acknowledge.
In which case I would say that there is not a societal expectation to censor 'tranny' or 'faggot,' so people tend to not do so.
Exactly he wasn't at all but people like to find something to be upset about its stupid
I'll say nigga but I'll never call a woman a bitch (anymore). That's just how it goes.
I think that topic would vastly engulf this one even though they're tangent, but it's not without merit. Men using bitch to refer to women (perhaps even at all) is misogynistic. Whether or not that's the breaking point for you in terms of whether or not to listen to someone based on that, is up to you, but it's fair critique.
Watched this again especially part 2. This man is a genius. When you see the entire thing holistically and with context he is right. He is FOR women , he is against oppression and he is saying from his experience as an ENTERTAINER that what C.K. did was nothing in comparison to what Hollywood folks are capable of and that the best allies for women are the good men who side with them so this fight is for both genders to win to get equality in order
Yep. Once it got to the point of doxxing, that's when it really fell off the rails.
This almost feels like when Joss Whedon got called out for being a hypocrite while calling himself a feminist.
I honestly can't tell you why that time I chose to censor the word. I go back-and-forth because sometimes I think the explicitness of the word draws more attention to itself than it needs to when trying to make a point but I get what you're trying to say
who got doxxed?
i'm not bothered by it. i was just letting that poster know since that post was weirdly preachy.
So Chappelle hates women and wants them to live as second class citizens?
Wait hold the fuck up, who is getting doxxed?
That shit needs to be brought to mods
uh... we can talk about my comments if you have an issue with them.
i didn't mean that in a negative way. she has just told me several times she was black so that poster was off with their remarks.
that's all.
maybe stop being offended for no reason.
Cream with the avatar thing. It's not to the worst of doxxing - not nearly - but it's pretty unacceptable behavior and constitutes a personal attack on them.
Guys, you can just report posts you don't like. You don't have to make some vague statements without even pointing out the posts that offend you.
I feel like this thread is starting to become more about me then with the thread is actually supposed to be about and it's getting really uncomfortable.
I don't think I've been "doxxed". I had the avatars and they can choose to find the source if they want. But this thread isn't about me.
I don't think I've been "doxxed". I had the avatars and they can choose to find the source if they want. But this thread isn't about me.
Uh? Cream created the topic? https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-have-an-avatar-without-a-face.8814/
We spoke about it last time in the other Chappelle topic anyway. Can you understand how I obviously think you have a high threshold for adult content, yet you're saying Dave using some crude language, in character, on a set, is somehow something that needs to stop, is confusing?
This is in no shape or form doxxing, jesus christ. Your avatar is from Persona 5. Are you now doxxed?
I felt his real (not stand up persona) opinions shining through when he was talking about how brave he thinks transgender people are. I don't know if he's statistically correct on whether it's pre-dominantly a white condition.
Yeah I wasn't expecting to enter this thread to find out who your fav doujin artists are and shit, come on now
Fair enough, doxxing is probably an inappropriate word to use. Apologies. It's still inappropriate and not relevant to the arguments being made. I'll drop it now though.
I don't know. Understand the type of content the person consumes and considers enjoyable is relevant to the discussion and after googling them convinced me to ignore ignore the poster.
Calm down everyone, let's not get personal
Now many sides have issues and I get that some people don't like how Dave and other comedians approach their comedy . They even admit Dave is not being full of malice but intent matters and Dave has shown in these specials he cares for those oppressed more so than he says it himself
At the very least we can admit regardless of how you think he approaches his comedy and delivery he is not in any way hateful towards those he talks about ... except Trump
Now many sides have issues and I get that some people don't like how Dave and other comedians approach their comedy . They even admit Dave is not being full of malice but intent matters and Dave has shown in these specials he cares for those oppressed more so than he says it himself
At the very least we can admit regardless of how you think he approaches his comedy and delivery he is not in any way hateful towards those he talks about ... except Trump
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His comments about LGBT activism having a voice and legitimacy because of white privilege is so true. Throw in feminism too if you ask me. Those movements wouldn't have had nearly as much progress or traction if they were lead or made up of mostly black folks and people of color.
Social justice is racist too. Glad he touched on it. As Paul Mooney has said many times, you can be too black, but never too white or not white enough.
Social justice is racist too. Glad he touched on it. As Paul Mooney has said many times, you can be too black, but never too white or not white enough.
It looks like the white adults who identify as transgender is actually lower than their overall percent of the population in the united states. not sure about worldwide.
I've been pondering on what Chappelle meant when he said comedians especially now a have "a responsibility to speak recklessly" and I can't help but the type of responses I am seeing in this thread is what he was alluding to.
It doesn't help how heavy handed the moderation was in the other thread. People don't want context, they don't even want to conversate. I'm not saying I am perfect or have never been guilty of it myself, but it seems more and more like it that people just want to be right more than they want to listen or be heard, and it's killing the way we communicate, and it ties into underlying many issues in society that are manifesting in very disturbing ways.
It doesn't help how heavy handed the moderation was in the other thread. People don't want context, they don't even want to conversate. I'm not saying I am perfect or have never been guilty of it myself, but it seems more and more like it that people just want to be right more than they want to listen or be heard, and it's killing the way we communicate, and it ties into underlying many issues in society that are manifesting in very disturbing ways.
This is what you wrote before:
So what makes it ok to use certain derogatory words? Oh, because you are part of that marginalized group....
Derogatory word is derogatory word. Like I said, I guess some derogatory words are fine and some off limits.
How about I hear some women call each other bitches. So of Chappele was female it would be fine?
So what makes it ok to use certain derogatory words? Oh, because you are part of that marginalized group....
Derogatory word is derogatory word. Like I said, I guess some derogatory words are fine and some off limits.
How about I hear some women call each other bitches. So of Chappele was female it would be fine?
I was just about to post the same thing after reading through the OP and the first couple of posts.
Whether he's wrong or not, let's not pretend that this is Dave victim blaming (at least based on the quotes in the OP). He's saying they are weak for letting CK's actions ruin their careers, according to them, not that they are weak for coming out against CK or that CK was not wrong for doing what he did.
It's been that way forever, with the internet though you don't have to worry about being polite and waiting for your turn to speak.
Neither of these contradict each other, I just think you misunderstood. A marginalized group cannot speak for another marginalized group, that's the earlier quotation explanation. The latter however is actually emphasizing that. I don't use the n-word because I do not want to do something that may cause offense to another marginalized group.
Exactly. Shutting down even the hint of conversation because someone has the chance of being offended is what causes division. I don't think people create social impact by bullying other people into towing their personal philosophical or ideological line. That's thought control not justice.
South Park had it right back when. We as American citizens are entitled to tolerence not necesarily acceptence. Dave makes that point. The term SJW is rather irritating but when certain types resort to condescending bullying when they encounter alternative voices (as ignorant as some of them might be) it is not helpful at all.
This is true of gay people as well. White people are less likely to be out of the closet in the US because of the overall higher privilege and status. They are more likely to have more to lose by doing so than minority groups.
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This thread is exactly what he talks about on his show.
The whole country turning into bitch ass Ni**az.
Anything and everything offends someone always.
For the record i am not trying to offend anyone but he just talked about this.
The whole country turning into bitch ass Ni**az.
Anything and everything offends someone always.
For the record i am not trying to offend anyone but he just talked about this.
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