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nicoga3000

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,976
Taking my sweet time getting started on this game. Just hit Chapter 3. I like it, but the combat and blade switching stuff feels pretty arbitrary at the moment. I suspect once I open more stuff up things will feel 'right".
 

hat_hair

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,160
Finally got all the blades after a couple of days smashing bosses for Legendary cores. Those last two were painful to get.
Now to try and see all the side quests.
 

B-Dubs

That's some catch, that catch-22
On Break
Oct 25, 2017
32,778
Taking my sweet time getting started on this game. Just hit Chapter 3. I like it, but the combat and blade switching stuff feels pretty arbitrary at the moment. I suspect once I open more stuff up things will feel 'right".
A lot of the game's combat mechanics are locked behind chapter requirements. You'll literally be unlocking stuff right up until the final fight.
 

Driver

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,053
Southern California
I was experiencing really long load times between skip travel, cutscenes, bonding blades, and pretty much anywhere. Quitting the game and starting it back up did nothing. I had to physically turn off my switch by holding the power button down on the console. Once I powered it back on and booted up the game the long load times were gone.
 

Ogodei

One Winged Slayer
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10,256
Coruscant
I actually got it (chapter 7 boss) late last night. I switched from Tora-Nia-Zeke which kept losing, experimented with Rex-Nia-Tora which went nowhere
(i've really had trouble getting Rex to much usefulness without Pyra, partially because i'm not really doing Merc missions so Roc's still on level 1 affinity and I'm not a fan of Wulfric's moveset, and his third blade, Gorg, is brand new to him).
so I switched to Tora-Nia-Morag which finally did it. Split his aggro instead of keeping all the pressure on Tora, who would inevitably buckle around the 1/3rd health left mark and the whole fight would go out of control. Morag couldn't quite keep up with the boss's damage output, but then when the primary tank would fall, aggro would switch to the other tank instead of having him go after Zeke or Nia right away. Tora's got an accessory that allows him to revive people to practically full health, so we could keep momentum even when Morag fell.

It's weird, that fight should have gone terribly. Morag fell in that stupid hole the devs put there for some unfathomable reason, and since the boss was aggroing her, it was a job and a half to lead her out of the hole so that she'd lead him out of the hole, time when he was doing damage but we really weren't. Also failed to driver combo or blade combo him at all, and yet we won. Compared to times when i got multiple Smashes and an Orb on him and still lost.
 

Brewster123

Self-Requested Ban
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,456
Charlottesville, VA
I don't know if anyone else has seen it, but here is a spreadsheet listing practically every piece of information you would need in post game. It has some spoilers though, so if you haven't finished the game I would be careful looking at this. I personally use it to find core chips.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet..._WDsCwibqSAkglDku8mw8fIKA8/htmlview?sle=true#

Credit goes to the reddit community. They did a great job.
 

Nickgia

Member
Dec 30, 2017
2,265
Can you get the blade transfer items easily? If not,should I release them and try to pull them on the person I want them assigned to?
What about ones that came from special cores? Would I be able to pull them from the normal cores if I release them or am I stuck?

Thanks.
 

Apple_Prince

Member
Nov 6, 2017
230
I was doing a dive and this boy showed up with the treasure I got. It's like level 81 and I was level 10 at the time. What the fudge!?
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Ogodei

One Winged Slayer
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10,256
Coruscant
Can you get the blade transfer items easily? If not,should I release them and try to pull them on the person I want them assigned to?
What about ones that came from special cores? Would I be able to pull them from the normal cores if I release them or am I stuck?

Thanks.

I'm not sure about the others, but every Gacha Blade (the random draw blades) comes with one Overdrive, so you can reassign it once (which is very nice of the devs considering who you pull is based on the character's Thought Cloud and not really who would actually be best for them).
 

psynergyadept

Member
Oct 26, 2017
15,643
UGH!! do i really need Flame Matery 3 and Wind Mastery 2 to get throuth this(chapter 7)
Spirit Crucible Elpys
this thing is a goddamn slog...
 

Brewster123

Self-Requested Ban
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,456
Charlottesville, VA
UGH!! do i really need Flame Matery 3 and Wind Mastery 2 to get throuth this(chapter 7)
Spirit Crucible Elpys
this thing is a goddamn slog...
Well Brighid should have at least flame mastery two at that point, and Roc should have Wind Mastery. So long as you have one fire common and one wind common, you'll be fine. I seriously can't comprehend the outrage over that; they largely give you what you need for plot progression via story blades.
 

dgco86

Member
Oct 25, 2017
413
Argh... This game is a nightmare for hoarders... I've maxed out my mercenary rank, released all my common blades with only elemental mastery field skills and I'm still out of slots for blades. All my remaining commons are either 3 stars and/or have elemental mastery + some other field skill. I still have quite a few rare blades to get, and I know I will never get them if I don't free up space by releasing my common blades, but I keep worrying that I'll need them in the future. Does anyone have any recommendations (aside from therapy)?
 

Xarius

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,487
I'm not sure about the others, but every Gacha Blade (the random draw blades) comes with one Overdrive, so you can reassign it once (which is very nice of the devs considering who you pull is based on the character's Thought Cloud and not really who would actually be best for them).

What do you mean by this? That's not true. Overdrives are only from chests, maxing a driver's affinity chart, and releasing 4-crown blades with maxed affinity charts.
 

Mr.Fletcher

Member
Nov 18, 2017
9,545
UK
I'm just exploring the world now that I've finished and it's amazing how much you miss. For me, this game will always be about that main story, that adventure.

But it's cool to discover stuff that totally passed you by. I'm finding plenty of unique monsters too which is always fun.
 

Apopheniac

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,660
Argh... This game is a nightmare for hoarders... I've maxed out my mercenary rank, released all my common blades with only elemental mastery field skills and I'm still out of slots for blades. All my remaining commons are either 3 stars and/or have elemental mastery + some other field skill. I still have quite a few rare blades to get, and I know I will never get them if I don't free up space by releasing my common blades, but I keep worrying that I'll need them in the future. Does anyone have any recommendations (aside from therapy)?

Which three-crowns will you actually use? Which field skills do you have that are redundant?
 

whiteninja

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
1,794
Wtf at the dragon thing you fight during the final poppi form quest.
Not hard but it has insane hp, took like 15 min to kill it since I got bored and just left the chars to autoattack while I went and did something else.
 

Xarius

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,487
Wtf at the dragon thing you fight during the final poppi form quest.
Not hard but it has insane hp, took like 15 min to kill it since I got bored and just left the chars to autoattack while I went and did something else.

Nothing should take 15 minutes to kill unless you're very underleveled. Are you using blade combos and chain attacks?
 

R_thanatos

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,491
I actually got it (chapter 7 boss) late last night. I switched from Tora-Nia-Zeke which kept losing, experimented with Rex-Nia-Tora which went nowhere
(i've really had trouble getting Rex to much usefulness without Pyra, partially because i'm not really doing Merc missions so Roc's still on level 1 affinity and I'm not a fan of Wulfric's moveset, and his third blade, Gorg, is brand new to him).
so I switched to Tora-Nia-Morag which finally did it. Split his aggro instead of keeping all the pressure on Tora, who would inevitably buckle around the 1/3rd health left mark and the whole fight would go out of control. Morag couldn't quite keep up with the boss's damage output, but then when the primary tank would fall, aggro would switch to the other tank instead of having him go after Zeke or Nia right away. Tora's got an accessory that allows him to revive people to practically full health, so we could keep momentum even when Morag fell.

It's weird, that fight should have gone terribly. Morag fell in that stupid hole the devs put there for some unfathomable reason, and since the boss was aggroing her, it was a job and a half to lead her out of the hole so that she'd lead him out of the hole, time when he was doing damage but we really weren't. Also failed to driver combo or blade combo him at all, and yet we won. Compared to times when i got multiple Smashes and an Orb on him and still lost.
Don't forget to mention , if you fell into the hole , ennemies ( new ones ) will start to pop-up making the whole fight a giant mess !!

Hurray !!
 

whiteninja

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
1,794
Nothing should take 15 minutes to kill unless you're very underleveled. Are you using blade combos and chain attacks?

As I said I just left them to autoattack. It felt like the battle would of taken a long time anyway. I find myself doing this more often now (just letting battles go on while I do something else). Battle after battle and it just really starts adding up. Bosses and stronger enemies Ill start actually participating though.
 

Apopheniac

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,660
Got Lv. 5 in Gormott. I don't think these Dev levels actually get harder to attain as they get higher.
 

Grisby

Member
Oct 29, 2017
2,534
Chips/weapons are single use, once you use it it's gone.

Aux cores can be unequipped.


And battles drag a little early on. Late in the game they can feel like they go too quick because you can't do what you want in the time that you have. Level is also less substantial than XB1. You are punished a lot less for being lower level than enemies.
10-4 thanks. Good to hear about the leveling deal.
 

borghe

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,112
I have been farming the Ardun for LG cores.. I only have KOS MOS left.. go figure.

I also thought people said you got Overdrive Protocols for completing a 4 star affinity chart.. clearly THAT was wrong..

I've had some major personal stuff go on this week and have had a hard time getting motivated doing anything past getting KOS MOS.... we'll have to see. I was sort of excited to max out all of the blades and do all of the blade side quests.. but have just been gutted this week. at 200 hours I might just shelve it for now (after KOS MOS) and come back to it when things recover more..
 

Zeroneo

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
666
I just beat this chapter and I'm actually laughing at how OP Pyra's new abilities seem.

What element is it when when not using specials?
 

Mr.Fletcher

Member
Nov 18, 2017
9,545
UK
So, 75 hours in I decided it's time for a change.

I've toyed with all the party members, less so Zeke as he kind of fulfils the Rex role for me, but I finally made the conscious decision to swap out Tora for Morag... and woah, I'm chuffed.

With the right accessories and blades (her two story blades and Perceval) she rarely ever gets hit and hits much harder than Tora.

Yeah, you're losing a few thousand HP points but she seems super good to me, Have I got the right setup?

I know Tora has a pretty awesome third blade but I'm not sure I can be bothered to mess around to get her.
 
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QFNS

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
935
Yeah, you're losing a few thousand HP points but she seems super good to me, Have I got the right setup?

I know Tora has a pretty awesome third blade but I'm not sure I can be bothered to mess around to get her.

So I'm not anywhere close to 75 hours, but I swapped them as soon as I got Morag because I was sick of Tora's annoying Nopon voice and "meh meh meh"s. I have been very happy with that change ever since.

I end up running two tanking blades and a random rare attacker that I got on her ATM. She functions like an evasion tank vs Tora's HP tank. So try and up her agility instead of HP. She can be more at the mercy of massive damage spikes or big hits, but I have so far found it similar.

Plus her personality is much more fun.
 

Neiteio

Member
Oct 25, 2017
24,137
I was doing a dive and this boy showed up with the treasure I got. It's like level 81 and I was level 10 at the time. What the fudge!?
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That's a Xenoblade tradition, and in my opinion good design. High-level enemies are placed in low-level places to shape how you move through the world. Sometimes they're put in chokepoints, pressuring you to run, creating an adrenaline rush. Other times they're out in the open but they force you to take detours or find creative ways around them. They're part of the pathfinding element. This was especially well-done in XCX, really adding to that game's survival sensibility.
 

Xarius

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,487
So, 75 hours in I decided it's time for a change.

I've toyed with all the party members, less so Zeke as he kind of fulfils the Red role for me, but I finally made the conscious decision to swap out Tora for Morag... and woah, I'm chuffed.

With the right accessories and blades (her two story blades and Perceval) she rarely ever gets hit and hits much harder than Tora.

Yeah, you're losing a few thousand HP points but she seems super good to me, Have I got the right setup?

I know Tora has a pretty awesome third blade but I'm not sure I can be bothered to mess around to get her.

Yeah, if you're not going to invest in Tora's third blade, Morag with an evasion build is the way to go.
 

Saikar

Member
Nov 3, 2017
334
Zenobia's murder world tour is so liberating. None of this trust crap, no having her eat 4 pianos or use the same skill 15 times. I just wander the world and kill nasty monsters to power her up. I am loving this.
 

Apple_Prince

Member
Nov 6, 2017
230
That's a Xenoblade tradition, and in my opinion good design. High-level enemies are placed in low-level places to shape how you move through the world. Sometimes they're put in chokepoints, pressuring you to run, creating an adrenaline rush. Other times they're out in the open but they force you to take detours or find creative ways around them. They're part of the pathfinding element. This was especially well-done in XCX, really adding to that game's survival sensibility.
Yeah but I fished this guy out while doing a salvage dive.
 

Ogodei

One Winged Slayer
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10,256
Coruscant
What do you mean by this? That's not true. Overdrives are only from chests, maxing a driver's affinity chart, and releasing 4-crown blades with maxed affinity charts.

Then why do i see overdrive as an option for some blades but not for others? Or is it just that i happen to have enough of them to make the three moves i've needed to make floating around my inventory somewhere?
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,629
Then why do i see overdrive as an option for some blades but not for others? Or is it just that i happen to have enough of them to make the three moves i've needed to make floating around my inventory somewhere?

If you see Overdrive as an option it's because you have some in your inventory. A few blades are tied to specific people and can't be transferred, so that's probably why you're not seeing the option on all of them.
 

Ogodei

One Winged Slayer
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10,256
Coruscant
If you see Overdrive as an option it's because you have some in your inventory. A few blades are tied to specific people and can't be transferred, so that's probably why you're not seeing the option on all of them.

All the more reason to focus on drawing who i want on who i want them for.

C'mon, Electra for Morag!
 

HBK

Member
Oct 30, 2017
7,986
Well. Game over. Ending was satisfying. Don't know what to think of the rest of the game.

Lots of good stuff and lots of bad stuff put together in a fun but sometimes unenjoyable package. Too much QoL issues. So many weird design decisions. Yet the story kinda works, the level design is top notch, the battle system is excellent and of course the music is great.

Also most characters are great and of course Hana is awesome.

So well, now onto deciding if I'll get missing blades and farm stuff and kill superbosses and ... well, you know what I mean :)
 

Legacy

One Winged Slayer
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
15,704
Can anyone recommend a good spot to farm from level 40+? I've been scouring around Gormott Upper Right - Lyta Oasis and killing the 2-3 agile foxes but it's taking too long.

I haven't got to Mor Ardain yet.
 

QFNS

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
935
Not sure why, just want to try and get to level 50 beforehand! Maybe I'll just continue with the story then...
I was overleveled for that point in the story when I was in my mid 30s. You'll breeze along the main story for a quite a while.

Also the game very rarely locks you out from fast travelling wherever you want at almost any time. So you are free to head back to any other kingdom in between story scenes.
 

Apopheniac

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,660
One thing XCX did that XC2 doesn't that I liked was put lower level enemies into endgame locales - you could go to Cauldros and find some enemies in the single digits. It helped make the areas feel more natural, in that they were actual environments with diverse fauna as opposed to just fightpits bound to player progression. Having big dudes in Gormott amongst the guys you can handle is great, but you lose the effect if you don't the opposite later.

obviously this applies more to, like, Tantal and such - World Tree and Land of Morytha have good excuses

Not sure why, just want to try and get to level 50 beforehand! Maybe I'll just continue with the story then...
At that rate, you'll hit the level cap by the time the story kicks into high gear.
 

Brewster123

Self-Requested Ban
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,456
Charlottesville, VA
One thing XCX did that XC2 doesn't that I liked was put lower level enemies into endgame locales - you could go to Cauldros and find some enemies in the single digits. It helped make the areas feel more natural, in that they were actual environments with diverse fauna as opposed to just fightpits bound to player progression. Having big dudes in Gormott amongst the guys you can handle is great, but you lose the effect if you don't the opposite later.

obviously this applies more to, like, Tantal and such - World Tree and Land of Morytha have good excuses
I feel like Mor Ardain and Tantal have excuses as well...
One is a desert and the other is a frozen wasteland; you have to be pretty tough to survive in those types of climates. I imagine all the weaker creatures would have trouble getting by. Uraya still has this problem though.