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Ultra

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I do wonder if Gon not being able to see his Nen [despite it being there according to Ging] is more of a mental thing. Perhaps Gon is ashamed of what he became, from threatening innocents, to potentially damaging his friendship with Killua that it's almost like he doesn't want to use Nen again. It's a bit of a reach but I think that could be a good idea.

The more popular theory of course is that when he was wished to be "normal" it means before he learned Nen. Meaning his pores haven't been opened.
 

edo_kid

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Also Gon crazy descent into darkness makes more sense in the manga. Kaito is literally the man responsible for him becoming a hunter, he's the one that told him of his father and the hunter organization, Kaito it's there from the very beginning. I don't like how the anime dealt with his introduction.
 

Rand a. Thor

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Oct 31, 2017
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Also Gon crazy descent into darkness makes more sense in the manga. Kaito is literally the man responsible for him becoming a hunter, he's the one that told him of his father and the hunter organization, Kaito it's there from the very beginning. I don't like how the anime dealt with his introduction.
Oh man, really? I am not a huge manga person and usually deal with the Anime for these kinda things, except for special Occasions. Like I have only read this year JoJo, Naruto, and Death Note. I might have to go through this all again just for the differences, and to be sure that things make sense in the Post anime arcs.
 

edo_kid

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Oh man, really? I am not a huge manga person and usually deal with the Anime for these kinda things, except for special Occasions. Like I have only read this year JoJo, Naruto, and Death Note. I might have to go through this all again just for the differences, and to be sure that things make sense in the Post anime arcs.

Kaito is pretty much the only major thing they changed, he goes to Whale Island looking for Ging and ends up saving Gon life when he's a kid. He tells him of his father and the hunter's and leaves with him his father Hunter Card. That sets up Gon later adventure.

That moment in the anime where Kaito gives Gon the hunter card before Pitou encounter kinda ruins what's gonna happen, in the manga it was more shocking since we got no hint that Kaito has gonna get fucked.
 
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Daingurse

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Also Gon crazy descent into darkness makes more sense in the manga. Kaito is literally the man responsible for him becoming a hunter, he's the one that told him of his father and the hunter organization, Kaito it's there from the very beginning. I don't like how the anime dealt with his introduction.

That's the single blemish in the 2011 adaptation. I literally don't have any complaints outside of the way the Kite was handled. Anime only watchers don't have the proper context regarding Kite & Gon's relationship, and it's a shame.
 

SixtyFourBlades

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I had no idea you were into HxH. The fact the Killua's the one in the show except for Leorio with actual common sense is scary.
Yeah man! I love HxH. My nephew and I watched the entire series a few years back (binge watched until we caught up to the week by week wait). What a ride that was. I read the manga from that point where the anime left off. Now I'm in the cycle of dread and delight whenever Togashi goes on hiatus and then announces his return only to go on hiatus again after a while, lol.
Gonna just straight up suggested to kill an innocent girl if things go south for Kite in the end. He should be the villain, not the Protag!
Gon is still one of my favorite Shonen protags (Yusuke is my absolute favorite), but yeah, that was a point where I was thinking, "What the hell are you doing, Gon?!"
The opposite directions Gon and Killua go in for their overall arcs is wonderfully displayed. Killua finally got to point after many hardships and feeling worthless where he can actually interact and make friends without Gon's direct influence, it's a big turning point for him from someone who's been tortured since birth and has had nothing except killing. On the other hand Gon's been slowly turning to darkness which climaxed in this arc, the world is hitting him like a truck and when he can't get what he wants [having Pitou heal Kite, forget Komougi] he behaves like a child takes it out on his best friend - because at the end of the day he's still but a child. It's easy to forget, but it felt very real.
Man, the scene where Killua cries to Palm about not being able to help his friend broke my heart. I was crying too, lol. They're just kids indeed, but the show brought across their emotions so well, you can't help but feel it with them.
 

cLOUDo

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Oct 28, 2017
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Also Gon crazy descent into darkness makes more sense in the manga. Kaito is literally the man responsible for him becoming a hunter, he's the one that told him of his father and the hunter organization, Kaito it's there from the very beginning. I don't like how the anime dealt with his introduction.
Yep, that was very stupid
What are they thinking


About that theory...
gon have his nen when he meet gin, isn't?
 

Rand a. Thor

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Oct 31, 2017
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I know that pain.

Did you just get to that part in the arc with Gon?
Yeah I did.
The The entire explosion of rage, to the overkill, to the fact that you are screaming inside that thankfully, THANKFULLY he stopped even if he should have a tad earlier. And then oh hey, lets rip his fucking arm off, and the crazy son of a bitch is crying tears of joy because he paid an arm for arm with Kite. And you guy are telling me I have to sit through at least 2 more episodes of this? Good lord all mighty.
 

HStallion

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Yeah I did.
The The entire explosion of rage, to the overkill, to the fact that you are screaming inside that thankfully, THANKFULLY he stopped even if he should have a tad earlier. And then oh hey, lets rip his fucking arm off, and the crazy son of a bitch is crying tears of joy because he paid an arm for arm with Kite. And you guy are telling me I have to sit through at least 2 more episodes of this? Good lord all mighty.

Get ready to cry
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah I did.
The The entire explosion of rage, to the overkill, to the fact that you are screaming inside that thankfully, THANKFULLY he stopped even if he should have a tad earlier. And then oh hey, lets rip his fucking arm off, and the crazy son of a bitch is crying tears of joy because he paid an arm for arm with Kite. And you guy are telling me I have to sit through at least 2 more episodes of this? Good lord all mighty.
That episode still gets me. Especially when you look at it from Killua's perspective.

But yeah, Togashi isn't done with you yet.
 

B-Dubs

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Yeah I did.
The The entire explosion of rage, to the overkill, to the fact that you are screaming inside that thankfully, THANKFULLY he stopped even if he should have a tad earlier. And then oh hey, lets rip his fucking arm off, and the crazy son of a bitch is crying tears of joy because he paid an arm for arm with Kite. And you guy are telling me I have to sit through at least 2 more episodes of this? Good lord all mighty.
The tears are coming man, they're coming.
 

Daingurse

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131 conjures up too many emotions in me. I was watching a reaction compilation video the other day, and despite watching this episode God know's how many times, I still can't stop the tears.

Honestly can't think of any other episode of anime that resonances with me so much on an emotional level. That's why nothing can really touch the Chimera Ant arc in my eyes. The only anime that comes close for me is DBZ, due to immense childhood nostalgia, but even then, those are only hype nostalgia tears. HxH is something more, it touches something deeper. The way the characters are written and developed just makes me feel very invested in what happens to them.
 
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Daingurse

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Pushing kids to absolute madness.
That's honestly what makes the the CA arc so interesting and compelling. These are children going through extreme conditions and unbelievable stressors. I always try to put myself in Gon and Killua's shoes, because the shit they're dealing with at their age absolutely boggles the mind.
 

Lotus

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They're lying to you, only 131 matters. Just 131. Just 131.

Doki Doki reference lol
 

Skeeter49

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I know there's a Phantom Troops arc coming soonish.

Seems like everyone but Leorio is learning about Nen.
 

edo_kid

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Man with all this talk about the Chimera Ant arc i think i changed my mind about York New being the best arc in the series, this thing happens to me every year, i will probably change back to York New being the best again in a couple of months. Hehehehe
 

Ultra

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Yorknew is probably the more consistent arc but Chimera by a noticeable margin has the highest highs in the series and up there in Shounen, period.
 
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Yeah I did.
The The entire explosion of rage, to the overkill, to the fact that you are screaming inside that thankfully, THANKFULLY he stopped even if he should have a tad earlier. And then oh hey, lets rip his fucking arm off, and the crazy son of a bitch is crying tears of joy because he paid an arm for arm with Kite. And you guy are telling me I have to sit through at least 2 more episodes of this? Good lord all mighty.
I told you to prepare your anus for a reason. An ep that fucking destroys me isn't an ep that you can survive unprepared. I love that ep and hate it cause it hurts so much.
I have also seen the ep enough times and arc to have respect for Pitou and her growth. Seeing her/him savaged like that was too much. Also seeing the whole thing from Killua's perspective is heart breaking. He has to essentially watch his best friend, the bond that transformed him practically commit suicide.
Also if Gon thought with elements of a bigger picture it would have turned out a lot differently. It's pretty much what happened to younger Sensui.
 

SixtyFourBlades

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Man with all this talk about the Chimera Ant arc i think i changed my mind about York New being the best arc in the series, this thing happens to me every year, i will probably change back to York New being the best again in a couple of months. Hehehehe

Yorknew is probably the more consistent arc but Chimera by a noticeable margin has the highest highs in the series and up there in Shounen, period.

Some slight pacing issues for the Chimera Ants Arc prevents it from being the #1 spot for me. York New is still the best IMHO.
 

Ultra

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Yeah, pacing IMO was Chimera Ant's biggest issue but maintaining solid pacing over such a long arc with so many characters and branching sub-plots is a very difficult thing to do.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Chimera Ant is my favorite. The stuff that goes down is just....It isn't without issues, but that arc is just something else.
 

faircure

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Oct 27, 2017
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York New is my favorite. If Chimera Ant wasn't so long and drawn out I think I would've liked it better, it was just so disheartening to go through ten episodes and see 'Three minutes have passed since the beginning of the raid.' The highs were super good and worth it, but the lows were hard to get through.
 

SixtyFourBlades

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What I see generally the least liked arc is Greed Island, but I loved that one as well. It's just a testament to how good this series is to have one of your lower quality arcs still be awesome.
 

Yonafunu

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Oct 26, 2017
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All this talk about the Chimera Ant arc takes me back to when it started in the anime. The first time I saw that OP I had fucking chills all over. When Pitou, Pouf and Youpi appear and bow to the King... I'm pretty sure I teared up. Finally getting to see this arc animated was just sooo amazing.