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Television Displays and Technology Thread: The ERA of OLED is Now
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Thanks!! I wouldn't have guessed.
I'll try my luck with translucent lol.
Yes you can change them to Yellow (8 color selection + translucent option + background/window options + font + size).
Yeah they can't be more competitive because they buy the panels from LG, and ofc LG would price the panels in such a way that Sony can't make their models cheaper, and they provably even have an agreement in which LG sold them panels on the condition SONY wouldn't undercut them selling atva loss
People saying that had no idea of what they were talking about. As you say Sonys will be more expensive this year too
I agree with this also
But to be fair that's around the corner.
I want to upgrade from a 55" to a 65" OLED that should set me for 6-7 years, and I wanted to do it this year....but as a gamer I think now that it makes sense to wait a bit and buy the TV alongside the next gen console, and have them both last those 6/7y.
Maybe even save some money for a 77" model ;)
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I haven't heard anyone talking about panel improvements in LGs 2018 OLED lineup. What a disappointment this year's sets are looking to be..
That said, maybe the more interesting additions and changes are still under wraps for now.
That said, maybe the more interesting additions and changes are still under wraps for now.
We're in a transition period where 2019 will bring in Hdmi 2.1 and ATSC 3.0. If you have a AVR, you'll also have to upgrade that most likely too. I even think 3D might make a return. It's not the best year to buy home theater equipment.
I still don't understand if the A8F is the successor to the A1E or a new and cheaper option, which wouldn't really make sense. I know LG hasn't really talked much about their new panels, but still, there must be at least some improvements. Selling an older model with an outdated panel at a higher price with only optics to distinguish the two would be strange.
The website? They should allow this setting in their apps! Thanks for the info. Will def change it.
LG has 5 models, and 2 "ranges". The Premium one (W,G,E) and the entry level one (B,C).
It only makes sense that Sony releases an second model, so they too can have 2 ranges.
Not sure what you mean when u say "outdated panel" though, I'd imagine Sony's 2018 panel will be the same as LG's ones. Unless Sony uses a 2017 panel to bring down the price of the A8F?
What I mean is, if they continue selling the A1, do they actually use the new panels or the old ones. Maybe my head is just fucked in this regard from years of serial number logic and model codes, but if they update the A1 with new and improved panels going forward, it's a different TV in my mind.
the thing is I bought it fairly recently, like 2 or 3 weeks before the end of the year so I haven't used it all that much. but nope, haven't noticed any burn ins and I'm afraid of what'll happen coz, sometimes I just leave my Ps4 on (don't have cable) if I'm listening to spotify through it or if I'm just waiting for something and I'm afraid the burnin will start there.
Someone in this thread mentioned it a few pages back. That's what confused me in the first place.
Thanks
Didn't know this
Changed to Yellow!
Is it bad for our OLED screens?
Regarding my banding issue, the technician just left.
Tldr: he'll come back the day after tomorrow with the service remote to do a pixel refresh more powerful than what you can do with the menu.
Long version: It was As I expected, a real pita. The technician job is to do everything but changing the display. He tried to take photos as proof of the defect but he was doing this with a three years old low end smartphone...
When I was showing him the glue thing, he tried to wipe it off with his bare thumb! I was like "wtf you're doing to my tv ?" He then tried to wipe off his grease mark with his tie, I stopped him immediately and told him I have microfiber clothes.
Well at least he'll follow the procedure and do the service menu pixel thing.
If this doesn't work, I'll try contacting LG directly with my own photos as proof. And if they don't do anything, I'll sell the tv...
I got it for 1400€, so I should even make some profit on it.
Tldr: he'll come back the day after tomorrow with the service remote to do a pixel refresh more powerful than what you can do with the menu.
Long version: It was As I expected, a real pita. The technician job is to do everything but changing the display. He tried to take photos as proof of the defect but he was doing this with a three years old low end smartphone...
When I was showing him the glue thing, he tried to wipe it off with his bare thumb! I was like "wtf you're doing to my tv ?" He then tried to wipe off his grease mark with his tie, I stopped him immediately and told him I have microfiber clothes.
Well at least he'll follow the procedure and do the service menu pixel thing.
If this doesn't work, I'll try contacting LG directly with my own photos as proof. And if they don't do anything, I'll sell the tv...
I got it for 1400€, so I should even make some profit on it.
Wow I've been complaining about this all week long. Thanks so much, you just saved my eyes lol.
I changed it to black font with white drop shadow.
If they do it like LG does it all panels are equal. And as they buy the panels from LG, I bet both panels will be the same.
Try not to leave a static image too long but don't worry too much oherwise. Every time you turn off the TV it does some auto cleaning cycles to prevent bur in, so be sure to do that.
gotcha. but see, isn't it kinda ridiculous how we already spent thousands of dollars on this television and yet we have to worry about not leaving it on for too long because of a problem that'll fuck the television up permanently? if you're investing in some quality like this then I think it's reasonable to expect that the manufacturers would deal with the issues like this beforehand.
I think you can manually turn on the screensaver options if you're worried about it. But leaving static images on for minutes at a time won't cause burn-in. Maybe IR but I don't even see that from my experience so far.
It's the nature of the technology. They have algorithms that shift pixels and do other things to combat it, but it's not perfect (see: Kyuofu's Netflix logo burn-in). It's not like LG, Sony, etc. made a mistake and that's what is causing retention...it's an issue with these types of displays
Does the B8 look like a rebranded C7? same stand and black bezel instead of silver?
Is there an easy way to check what kind of HDMI cable you have? I have an older Sony cable that I don't think allows for HDR so I'll probably need to order a new one but I don't want to before I can confirm one way or another if it does.
i thought IR and burn in was the same thing? just different ways of saying it?
I know it's not the companies doing something wrong it's just how OLED is but I always thought with how flat the TVs become with OLED, that this would be the future. Can microLED make TVs super thin like OLED can? Also what page is Kyoufu's Netflix burn in on?
IR is image retention and not permanent. It is MUCH MORE common than burn-in. Burn-in is when something (usually a static logo) is permanently retained on your screen. I'm not sure exactly where Kyoufu posted his Netflix issue but I'm sure he'd be happy to tell you about it.
Yes, mLED can make super thin panels as well but I really wouldn't worry about it as it's not coming for a while. Treat your TV well (i.e. don't put the brightness at 100, don't leave a game on and walk away for hours, etc.) and it should be fine.
IR is temporary. Burn-in is permanent. Some people like to say the latter more but that's usually incorrect if it goes away.
They still make the movies plus with Avatar coming back around the same timeframe, it might be time for its return.
Ssmsung has been playing this con for years. Calling their televisions every technology in the sun to try and get people to ignore they are still LCD televisions. SUHD, Quantum Dot, QLED etc.
OLED offers a lot of positives and prices are dropping. This MicroLED modular display is cool by Samsung but at that size you're talking several tens of thousands of dollars and screen real estate the average consumer doesn't have. This year we will probably see 65" OLED's reach the price 55" OLED were at 2 years ago and 55" OLED will drop even further in price to where they are almost mainstream level.
By adding the X1 Extreme processor into the 900F series, I think we might see 75" size, Dolby Vision and above 1000 nits brightness be mainstream consumer pricing as well. Can't wait till all the videos and breakdowns happen and the tests ans reviews trickle out.
OLED offers a lot of positives and prices are dropping. This MicroLED modular display is cool by Samsung but at that size you're talking several tens of thousands of dollars and screen real estate the average consumer doesn't have. This year we will probably see 65" OLED's reach the price 55" OLED were at 2 years ago and 55" OLED will drop even further in price to where they are almost mainstream level.
By adding the X1 Extreme processor into the 900F series, I think we might see 75" size, Dolby Vision and above 1000 nits brightness be mainstream consumer pricing as well. Can't wait till all the videos and breakdowns happen and the tests ans reviews trickle out.
It looks like it's this one:
https://www.sony.com/electronics/home-theater-video-cables/dlc-he10s#product_details_default
Based on the description I think the one I have should be okay but is there any easy way to test them with the TV once I get it?
Well I have the 2014 model, I left it on for more than 24h on an internet page and nothing happened and I never worried about it tbh.
I just don't want u to fuck it up because of me but really, you shouldn't worry. Just don't leave a static image for more than 24h lol
Yeah, I don't fuck with the calibrations tbh I just play games on game mode the way it came preset and...I think it automatically switches to cinema/cinema home mode when I put on Netflix, which is pretty cool. I treat it just the same way as the 32" LCD I had before it tbh so I guess for me the TV should be fine. Also, do users get notifications when you tag them in your post like you just did?
Ok, so is the actual issue literally the same thing, just one of them is the prolonged effect of the other?
It's not a one-time event that usually causes burn-in but cumulative wear like watching a news channel a couple hours a day every day or playing a game with static huds for hundreds of hours total.
Even if you watch movies etc. between those, you will get burn-in when the same content has worn down the pixels enough.
IR will go away eventually if you switch up content. Severity varies. Burn-in is gonna be there forever and can't be fixed at all. Very rare. Not even my old 2005 Plasma ever got burn-in from normal use and I played a shitload of games for hours and hours on it with static UI.
Why does it sound like you're learning about everything for the first time?
You didn't ask any of these questions before you dropped that much money for a new piece of technology?
Yeah my folks have a really old plasma TV that still works like a charm, picture quality is pretty great considering how damn old the TV is relatively speaking. So you know what I probably shouldn't be worried about this.
The only thing I should worry about is how to not break the TV when I eventually move to a new home, which probably won't be for another year anyway.
I've wanted a 4K tv since 2014. Back then, I almost bought the Seiki and then instead almost bought a Samsung 40", eventually I decided not to buy any at all. Then 3 years later, early 2017 again I almost bought a 4K tv, I wanted the Sony 49" LED that seemed like it would've been great, and then I heard more and more about OLED and I figured, 4K OLED is probably the best of the best so I'll just go with that. I didn't pay attention to the disadvantages because I thought it would not be anything out of the ordinary of disadvantages you'd get from buying a new tv.
thank you!
Hah, yea. Moving such a large piece of electronic is a pain in the ass.
yeah but like they always say, cross the bridge when we get there.
I really do hope and feel like OLED is the future, I didn't expect this microLED stuff, honestly if it has the same black levels, same picture quality, and makes the TVs paper thin, it pretty much is a more efficient version of OLED, yeah? Or at least a more efficient method of achieving what OLED achieves without the side effects
I'm loving it right now. Bought a bunch of 4K Blu-rays recently. Can't wait to sit down over the weekend and enjoy them.
yeah, 4K blu ray is probably the main reason I want an Xbone X. I could just buy Planet earth 2 on blu ray, I'm guessing Ps4 pro has an upscale feature, but I think watching it in 4K blu ray will definitely show me why 4K is worth it.
Maybe? I actually think this is less true than it was a week ago. Keep in mind that HDMI 2.1 is not a new connector, it's the same hardware connector. That's why we're seeing 2.1 features, like eARC and VRR being capable on 2.0b connectors. it's all going to be a matter of cables having enough bandwidth and then of course the variation between vendors in how they support their products via firmware (I love you, Anthem).
Who knows. This 2.1 stuff gets murkier by the minute now that we're into CES.
They're still selling the A1E throughout the year and Kaz stated they were looking to bring OLED to a wider audience. I'm just making an assumption but that sounds like a lower cost option to me.
Planet Earth 2 is well worth it in UHD. Don't waste your time and money just buying the blu-ray version, besides you get the br in the UHD package.
I know nothing about Hisense TVs except that they are trying to play in that TCL "cheaper than the big boys" space. They announced a 75" Full Array local dimming set with 1,000+ zones. No word on pricing and availability yet, but damn, I could see this being a relatively good buy if the price is right.
H10E series, 75-inch only
None of the facts support that yet. If Sony itself is not saying it, I wouldn't expect it (also, the early spec sheets all have A1E level items or better)
H10E series, 75-inch only
- Full-array local dimming with 1,000+ zones
- Quantum Dot wide color gamut
- Dolby Vision and HDR10 high dynamic range
- Android TV operating system
- Alexa and Google Home Compatible
None of the facts support that yet. If Sony itself is not saying it, I wouldn't expect it (also, the early spec sheets all have A1E level items or better)
shit, I didn't know that. Usually it says it on the cover. Ugh, such a fuckin shame sony didn't include it in the Ps4 pro
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