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Oct 26, 2017
2,708
New Orleans
I wish an investment group would seriously look at New Orleans as a market. We've got a gigantic tract of unused land less than a mile from the Warehouse District and CBD, and barely over a mile away from the French Quarter. Our metro area isn't very large, but that's a prime location to pull in an audience, and they're soon extending the riverside street car line that runs along the French Quarter to that location.

Plus, our city is very attractive for sports fans interested in going to away games, which is why we get so many Superbowls and College Bowl games despite the Superdome being one of the oldest stadiums in the NFL. We'd easily draw more people than places like Dallas that have stadiums beyond the furthest suburbs.

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Additionally, I used to work at a local alcohol importer, and they started importing Honduran beers because supposedly Jefferson Parish (part of the New Orleans metro area) has the largest number of Honduran immigrants of any county/parish in the entire country. They regularly have friendlies from South American and Mexican teams at Tad Gormley Stadium in City Park because of this.

The Guardian: In the New New Orleans, an International Soccer Player Hides in Plain Sight:

Before Katrina there was one Spanish-speaking league at City Park. It was called Islano and had 10 teams. Now there are three leagues with a total of 46 teams and discussions about their matches fill much of the radio show Carbajal hosts with Marco Piedy, the former president of Islano who runs Champion League, the newest of the three leagues. The demand for soccer in the new New Orleans is so big that Piedy regularly arranges to bring in big professional teams from Central America to play exhibitions at City Park's 26,500-seat Tad Gormley Stadium. These matches draw thousands of people even if sports fans in the rest of New Orleans are oblivious to their existence.

We saw a lot of immigrants move to the area looking for work during reconstruction after Katrina. They've mostly stuck around.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
4,128
Since Liga MX is starting up, what's the team to follow? Having zero knowledge, in the past I rooted for Pumas because of the logo. But I'm thinking of following a little closer this year. Proximity-wise, Club Tijuana is closest and has a upper tier logo so I'll probably go with them.
I picked Cruz Azul a few years ago just based on their relative lack of advertising on their kits and decent logo (yes, I know Cruz Azul is a Mexican cement company, so it's kind of like the RBNY/Leipzig/Salzberg situation.) I'm not too sure, but I think they have their own broadcasting deal since I almost never see them on the cable channels I get.
 

B-Dubs

That's some catch, that catch-22
On Break
Oct 25, 2017
32,774
I wish an investment group would seriously look at New Orleans as a market. We've got a gigantic tract of unused land less than a mile from the Warehouse District and CBD, and barely over a mile away from the French Quarter. Our metro area isn't very large, but that's a prime location to pull in an audience, and they're soon extending the riverside street car line that runs along the French Quarter to that location.

Plus, our city is very attractive for sports fans interested in going to away games, which is why we get so many Superbowls and College Bowl games despite the Superdome being one of the oldest stadiums in the NFL. We'd easily draw more people than places like Dallas that have stadiums beyond the furthest suburbs.

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Additionally, I used to work at a local alcohol importer, and they started importing Honduran beers because supposedly Jefferson Parish (part of the New Orleans metro area) has the largest number of Honduran immigrants of any county/parish in the entire country. They regularly have friendlies from South American and Mexican teams at Tad Gormley Stadium in City Park because of this.

The Guardian: In the New New Orleans, an International Soccer Player Hides in Plain Sight:



We saw a lot of immigrants move to the area looking for work during reconstruction after Katrina. They've mostly stuck around.
New Orleans would be a pretty awesome soccer town if they ever got a team. There's already a really awesome party and music culture down there, imagine if it was brought to a supporter's section. Could be a crazy atmosphere if the team got popular.
 

Quixzlizx

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,591
It's seriously mind-boggling how incompetent USSF is. Not only did they not call him up, they apparently flat-out ignored him as well.
 

gutshot

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,439
Toscana, Italy
What a joke. This wouldn't have happened under Klinsmann; he always did a good job of courting the dual nationals. One of his few good qualities.
 

ZZMitch

Member
Oct 26, 2017
704
I dunno why, but this almost hurts more than not making the World Cup to me. Gonzalez could have been one of our key players for 10+ years.
 

kIdMuScLe

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,571
Los angeles
It's beyond stupid. Why was he not called for the last friendly?

He was in the midst of the Liga MX playoffs. He just wanted a phone call saying yo we want you but you're in the playoffs and this is just a bullshit meaningless game so we don't want to risk an injury for you at this point. That's all he wanted for him to stay with US!
 

Icolin

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
13,235
Midgar
USMNT January Camp roster is tight. Props for picking Tim Parker. He's criminally underrated and overlooked.
 
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Cystm

Cystm

Member
The USSF is dumb as hell. Just a bunch of old men feeling secure in their bubble of wealth and being surrounded by people unwilling and/or incapable to challenge their ineptitude.

There isn't any sense of urgency because they just don't fucking get it.
 

Quixzlizx

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,591
The USSF is dumb as hell. Just a bunch of old men feeling secure in their bubble of wealth and being surrounded by people unwilling and/or incapable to challenge their ineptitude.

There isn't any sense of urgency because they just don't fucking get it.
To them we win or lose based on the size of the budget surplus.
 

zroid

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
5,785
Canada
apparently Kenneth Heiner-Møller will be in charge of the women's team now. man this is nuts.

"We felt as an organization that we needed to make some decisions for the longer term and our long-term philosophy, looking at growth of the men's national team program and the youth development program. In terms of that review, we determined that we had the ideal candidate internally in John Herdman," Canada Soccer president Steve Reed explained in a one-on-one interview with Sportsnet.

"We thought now was the time to look to John to lead the men's program and emulate what he's done with the women's program."

Asked to characterize the terms of Zambrano's departure, whether he was fired or he left by mutual consent, Reed said: "It was an organizational decision. He has departed from Canada Soccer. We wish him the best of luck."

http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/john-herdman-octavio-zambrano-canada-soccer-mens-team-womens-team/
 

Icolin

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
13,235
Midgar
Herdman will also be overseeing the men's national youth teams from the U-14 age level and up, much like he did with the women's teams. He did an exceptional job with the women, but does his work with the women's game translate to the men's game, given how much more competitive and high stakes the men's game is right now? Bizarre shit.
 

zroid

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
5,785
Canada
So Herdman kind of implies here that he might have left the CanWNT for "other opportunities"

"It's an honour to work on the men's side, and to be able to stay in Canada, as well. As a family man, we've settled here, we've lived here for six years. My son and daughter are pretty settled, and with other opportunities there was a chance that we might've had to leave Canada. … This is good news that we can establish our roots here and pushing the game forward, albeit on the men's side," Herdman told Sportsnet in a one-on-one interview.

maybe the decision was more about Canada Soccer wanting to keep Herdman in the system rather than let him leave entirely, so they decided to give him Zambrano's job
 

Icolin

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
13,235
Midgar
So Herdman kind of implies here that he might have left the CanWNT for "other opportunities"



maybe the decision was more about Canada Soccer wanting to keep Herdman in the system rather than let him leave entirely, so they decided to give him Zambrano's job

Maybe, but like then he should've just been named the U23 coach or whatever. They're giving him probably the most noteworthy position in the CSA, because they don't want him to leave? Just all kinds of weird.

Also from the CSA's statement:

Octavio Zambrano who has departed Canada Soccer.

This sounds very, very strange.
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zroid

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
5,785
Canada
Maybe, but like then he should've just been named the U23 coach or whatever. They're giving him probably the most noteworthy position in the CSA, because they don't want him to leave? Just all kinds of weird.

Also from the CSA's statement:



This sounds very, very strange.
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Hard to say what went on behind the scenes. They obviously like Herdman a lot, maybe he pushed for it, wasn't satisfied with anything but the senior men's job and Canada Soccer relented. Well they aren't exactly the most well run organization, lol.
 

Icolin

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
13,235
Midgar
Hard to say what went on behind the scenes. They obviously like Herdman a lot, maybe he pushed for it, wasn't satisfied with anything but the senior men's job and Canada Soccer relented. Well they aren't exactly the most well run organization, lol.

Grain of salt and all that, but people on the Voyageurs forum (a forum of Canadian soccer supporters) are saying that Zambrano was not getting along with anyone at the CSA, "was rocking the boat", and the CSA wanted someone who knows how to work with the CSA, like Herdman. Basically, a Yes-Man. Fuck the CSA if this is accurate.

EDIT: Found this in the Sportsnet article:

One well-place source told Sportsnet that Zambrano's tenure as coach was viewed as "a disaster" within some quarters of Canada Soccer.

hooooly shit this is nuts
 

zroid

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
5,785
Canada
Grain of salt and all that, but people on the Voyageurs forum (a forum of Canadian soccer supporters) are saying that Zambrano was not getting along with anyone at the CSA, "was rocking the boat", and the CSA wanted someone who knows how to work with the CSA, like Herdman. Basically, a Yes-Man. Fuck the CSA if this is accurate.

EDIT: Found this in the Sportsnet article:



hooooly shit this is nuts
Yikes.
 

zroid

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
5,785
Canada
Well, I feel for Zambrano if this is what it looks like, but on the other hand Herdman has certainly done well with the women. I don't think it's a bad move overall, just seems out of left field. At this point I'm not terribly concerned for the women's team since they promoted a former assistant, so hopefully things will continue to go smoothly over there.
 

Icolin

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
13,235
Midgar
Well, I feel for Zambrano if this is what it looks like, but on the other hand Herdman has certainly done well with the women. I don't think it's a bad move overall, just seems out of left field. At this point I'm not terribly concerned for the women's team since they promoted a former assistant, so hopefully things will continue to go smoothly over there.

There's no doubt that this is a bigger blow to the men's team than the women's team. Women's team have, and will continue to, contend. Men's team was in a bad spot before, and is probably worse off now.

Another layer of the bonkers onion that is this situation; seems as though the players weren't warned of this at ALL:

 

zroid

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
5,785
Canada
There's no doubt that this is a bigger blow to the men's team than the women's team. Women's team have, and will continue to, contend. Men's team was in a bad spot before, and is probably worse off now.

Another layer of the bonkers onion that is this situation; seems as though the players weren't warned of this at ALL:


Yep they mentioned that in the sportsnet article too. CSA looking pretty bush league atm.
 

zroid

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
5,785
Canada


This is the one he is quoting:



so much fuckery going on here


EDIT: Rollins also tweeted some more thoughts on this. He's saying that CSA was basically done with Zambrano and they were going to fire him soon. However the reason this all happened so suddenly was due to pressure from Herdman.
 
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Blue Lou

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,478
I'm amused by the spin that NASL are moving to August - May calendar (and wrongly refer to it as the 'international calendar'). It's clearly because there aren't enough teams at the moment and they hope to have more in seven months.
 

zroid

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
5,785
Canada
Couple more tidbits I just heard from the Zambrano/Herdman saga via John Molinaro:
  • Herdman in addition to the offer to manage the English women's side, also had at least one offer from a men's pro club in North America (unclear which level).
  • One of Zambrano's jobs along with coaching the senior team was to manage and oversee the youth development program in Canada. According to a source, Molinaro says that Zambrano was largely ignoring this role. It's worth noting that girls' youth development is something Herdman is seen as having excelled at in Canada.
 

B-Dubs

That's some catch, that catch-22
On Break
Oct 25, 2017
32,774
Apparently Landon Donovan is going to play for Leon in Mexico.

I'm not sure how to take the news, but I guess everyone gotta get paid.
 
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Cystm

Cystm

Member
Edit: I am wrong with this take

Isn't Rongen the guy who caused Subotic to tell USSF to fuck off?

If so, then Subotic was fragile as fuck. Sabotic had his choices (He had the United States, Serbia, or Bosnia and Herzegovina to chose from and "options" with Crotia and Germany - though I don't recall any actual interest from either of those two) Crazy to think about having that many options. Not entirely opposed to Rongen's assessment at the time and don't personally feel that it was a slight against Subo, but aside from that, I like Rongen in general. Still would've been a lot better off with Subotic for sure, but I am not convinced Rongen should entirely blamed for that.
 
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