I don't think it's getting the adhoc players MonHun left as Splatoon is mostly a home game.
The game plays fine ad hoc, it just requires larger groups of people for a full game rounds in the main mode unless you use custom arenas/rules.
I don't think it's getting the adhoc players MonHun left as Splatoon is mostly a home game.
I mean, once the console gets into the hands of more people you will see it out in the wild more often, that's inevitable. You probably see 3DS fairly regularly, right? Once Switch gets closer to 3DS numbers it will be more visible.Strongest Nintendo IP in Japan sells 2 million on an extremely popular device. Shocking
I think people that have never been to/lived in Japan are overselling the whole "it's portable" thing. It's a good console made by Nintendo and Splatoon is their strongest IP next to Mario and Pokemon in Japan.
I've literally seen two Switches being played in the wild here lol. Don't try to make it seem like every other person is playing it on the train, park, bar, or cafe lol. Like many people have said, the key selling point is the appeal of the diverse functionality rather than actually using it on the go.
My point is Splatoon 2 was going to hit 2 million regardless of whatever it was going to be released on because no console would be as poorly made and marketed as the Wii U. And even on the Wii U, Splatoon almost hit 2 million which speaks volumes compared to all these hypotheticals and moving goalposts.You are missing the point. Yes, most people play Splatoon at home online. But more people are interested in the Switch in general because it is a hybrid. The more people interested in Switch, the more people you can sell Splatoon 2 to. If Splatoon 1 wasn't on Wii U it would've sold more in Japan. Switch is more attractive than Wii U because the hybrid nature is more attractive to the Japanese market.
You're probably not wrong, but you're too easily dismissing that Square-Enix gave people who don't want to play DQXI on PSX an out, which likely split the sales a bit. There is no other option other than the older and less interesting MHXX.
That said, two million is a pipe dream unless that game catches on in ways no one expects.
Yeah I don't think it will either. It'll sell 1 million at least though, and probably hit 1.5 million eventually. Maybe it will hit 2 million after some discounts over time, it's definitely possible. I mean DQ XI did over 3 million if you combined 3DS and PS4, and I don't think it's safe to assume most people double dipped.
You're right the 3DS version definitely affected sales plus they do have the Switch version to look out for which probably also caused people to pass on the PS4 version, which is something MHW isn't dealing with excluding the few in Japan who will wait to play on PC.
What really seems interesting to me is how things drop off of the sales charts in Japan. I would have thought either FF XV or DQ XI(PS4) would be at 2 million now because of people buying the console later. Is there any source other than Square that has more up to date numbers for them?
RPGs are very frontloaded and the PS4 doesn't sell enough there for games to get more legs. Also worth saying that FFXV really didn't resonate with the japanese public, game just got to 1M because it was heavily overshipped and then stores had to slash prices a lot.What really seems interesting to me is how things drop off of the sales charts in Japan. I would have thought either FF XV or DQ XI(PS4) would be at 2 million now because of people buying the console later. Is there any source other than Square that has more up to date numbers for them?
I was not the one who brought price into the conversation.You know most/if not all Nintendo published games in Japan are discounted when compared to every other console game, right? I guess Nintendo doesn't make any console games and hasn't for a while.
I never saw the game being sold for that price, but it's still cheaper than the majority of newly released PS4 games, and Xenoblade or Zelda.Splatoon 2's retail price, not discounted, is 6458 yen. You saying that's not a console game price?
That's pretty huge :P Imo, MHW will easily make 2m in Japan.Honestly I don't think MHW will move as many units, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't DQ the biggest franchise in Japan and it didn't crack 2 million on PS4. Granted it had a 3DS version as well. But in the case of MH wasn't the reason it caught on because of ADHOC Multiplayer?
I mean I see Switch out in the wild here in the US, so they will be visible in Japan too.
I'm not disputing that really, I'm just saying the hybrid nature of Switch is way more appealing to the Japanese market than a regular console would be. PS4 and Wii U are proof of that, especially when compared to 3DS and Vita sales. Portables sell better in Japan, so a console that doubles as a.portable also sells better, and the games on such a console sell better.My point is Splatoon 2 was going to hit 2 million regardless of whatever it was going to be released on because no console would be as poorly made and marketed as the Wii U. And even on the Wii U, Splatoon almost hit 2 million which speaks volumes compared to all these hypotheticals and moving goalposts.
Depends on the game, JRPGs are extremely frontloaded in Japan. Nintendo games, on the other hand, sell forever. Animal Crossing New Leaf still shows up in the best seller charts to this day.You're right the 3DS version definitely affected sales plus they do have the Switch version to look out for which probably also caused people to pass on the PS4 version, which is something MHW isn't dealing with excluding the few in Japan who will wait to play on PC.
What really seems interesting to me is how things drop off of the sales charts in Japan. I would have thought either FF XV or DQ XI(PS4) would be at 2 million now because of people buying the console later. Is there any source other than Square that has more up to date numbers for them?
Sorry gonna quote the post again but after looking at the media create excel file I'm pretty sure it is New Super Mario Bros on the Wii at 4.5 or 4.6 million copies sold.What's the most copies ever sold for a console game in Japan?
FFVII?
I would say quite good, that would be 6 months and a couple of weeks left.What are the chances they hit 3 million before the content feed stops.
It's not related to price at all, just a discussion of why Switch is so much more appealing as a console in Japan than PS4 or Wii U.I don't understand the argument that Switch is a handheld in this context. The point is this game, which retails for the same price as other standard consoles, sold 2 million. Comparing to the 3DS is ludacrious because of the price difference per unit.
I would say quite good, that would be 6 months and a couple of weeks left.
They said 1 year of content support but it would not surprise me if they at the very
least extend Splatfests.
Didn't know the PC version of World was region locked I was going to make the first game I got when I bulid my PC later this year, now probably not. Also Nier only sold a couple hundred thousand right? So I guess if they didn't ship a ton initially , I can see why it had legs from positive word of mouth.No one will be playing it on PC in Japan. Its been locked down as exclusive and region-locked on PC in general.
PS4 games have no legs. FFXV can't even sell its original shipment.
Used market and low install base are not going to result in strong legs for many releases, only Nier has really bucked the trend as an exemplary standout but its still sold less than either FFXV or DQXI.
RPGs are very frontloaded and the PS4 doesn't sell enough there for games to get more legs. Also worth saying that FFXV really didn't resonate with the japanese public, game just got to 1M because it was heavily overshipped and then stores had to slash prices a lot.
It's still one of the largest dedicated device markets.It's actually rather sad how dead the console market is over there that a 2 million sale milestone is noteworthy to begin with now don't get me wrong congratulations of Splatoon 2 for making it happen but this just further highlights how the Japanese Market went in the complete opposite direction that the US took.
That's great did not know that....Nintendo has already confirmed Splatfests will last for two years.
I mean, it's the successor to 3DS and that system sold over 20 million in Japan alone so not really.Is the Switch the beginning of a renaissance of console gaming in Japan?
It's not related to price at all, just a discussion of why Switch is so much more appealing as a console in Japan than PS4 or Wii U.
It's not related to price at all, just a discussion of why Switch is so much more appealing as a console in Japan than PS4 or Wii U.
I mean, it's the successor to 3DS and that system sold over 20 million in Japan alone so not really.
It's not related to price at all, just a discussion of why Switch is so much more appealing as a console in Japan than PS4 or Wii U.
Sorry gonna quote the post again but after looking at the media create excel file I'm pretty sure it is New Super Mario Bros on the Wii at 4.5 or 4.6 million copies sold.
Oh for sure I don't think Consoles are ever going away but every time I jump on a any Media Create thread I tell myself "That's it? That's all X game sold on a X console? This feels like bread crumb sales compare to how much X title sold in the West"
Forget Monster Hunter World!! (I'm eagerly looking forward to it) the REAL Japanese Market test to me will be how much the FF7 Remake will sell once it lands on the PS4.To be completely honest it wouldn't really surprise me either way, because we saw how FF did and those consistently did better before this gen. Monster Hunter World will a be great test to see if people will follow the brand to the less popular PS4. If it only does around 1.5 million then well traditional console gaming is a market that can no longer do well even with the heaviest hitters. Also didn't Tri only do about a Million? Was that before or after the height of Mon Huns popularity in Japan?
Splatoon 3 isn't coming any time soon. Nintendo is a big fan of giving their marquis multiplayer titles (Mario Kart, Smash) a lot of space.
Oh believe me it's certainly worth it now, a lot of stuff got added since launch.Maybe I should get Splatoon 2... I loved the original game on Wii U, but I felt like Splatoon 2 came out too soon? At least that's what I thought at the time.
When I was in Japan last summer, advertisements for the game were everywhere.
To be completely honest it wouldn't really surprise me either way, because we saw how FF did and those consistently did better before this gen. Monster Hunter World will a be great test to see if people will follow the brand to the less popular PS4. If it only does around 1.5 million then well traditional console gaming is a market that can no longer do well even with the heaviest hitters. Also didn't Tri only do about a Million? Was that before or after the height of Mon Huns popularity in Japan?
Get ready for the new Splatoon Battle Royale game.I think we'll get some sort of spinoff on Switch, but not Splatoon 3.
Thank you! I always wondered why that happens though. Marina and the others should be more popular!Marina is awesome, Japan has some very cute girl designs with darker skin tones like Yuko in Persona but I'm not sure if they are popular. Wonder what the reason in
while i agree with you Nintendo themselves have always said the switch is a home console you can take on the go.
I think we'll get some sort of spinoff on Switch, but not Splatoon 3.
It's time for Splatoon x Jet Set Radio. I've been playing JSR on the Dreamcast and it's so fresh that it can't be forgotten like it basically is now.
Same, but it is pokemon so who knows how it'll all end.
Forget Monster Hunter World!! (I'm eagerly looking forward to it) the REAL Japanese Market test to me will be how much the FF7 Remake will sell once it lands on the PS4.
In the middle, but the Wii in Japan was a mismanaged mess from third parties so it is not only a bad barometer, it was also during a time when portable MH releases were still a thing (PSP then).
MHW is entering a very different market on a console that has had every grace from third parties thrown its way, and Capcom has set fire to the portable bridge even if they intend to eventually try to use it.
Either way, 2mil is extremely unlikely. There's simply a realistic unfeasibility that comes from the small install base.