Possibly, although the last Mario Tennis was a joint with Bamco so who knows.
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Possibly, although the last Mario Tennis was a joint with Bamco so who knows.
No, the last MArio Tennis was Camelot only.
you're thinking about Mario Sports Superstars, the 3DS game that is a compilation of several sports, including Camelot's Golf/Tennis and Baseball which Bamco used to make for Nintendo plus new sports neither of them did before (horse riding, football)
But the price of entry for BOTW is 360 dollars, that's something I think we should consider. I think their goal right now with the switch is to provide a steady stream of content and make sure there are no gaps.
I fully expect them to still put out 2-3 "big" titles every year, I doubt they can match the critical acclaim of BOTW and Odyssey but I think they still do it try to match output. And so far none of the titles announced are "non-traditional IPs"
Oops good call.
It did? I must have missed that.
You are allowed to have your personal likes and wants, nothing wrong with that. But to insinuate that there is nothing to play for 6 months or the early lineup we have here for 2018 is low effort would be incorrect.
There is plenty to play on Switch for the next 6 months including everything that released in 2017. This was a basic snapshot into what Nintendo is bringing this first half of the year. We'll have plenty of news before then.
Bleak is complete hyperbole IMO
I completely agree. We're going to hear a lot of people trying to make sense of this by predicting more announcements are coming for the first half of this year, but I don't see it happening. Nintendo has historically been very cautious about launching two retail games in the same month.
This is baseless. Pikmin is done by the 2D Mario team, which I doubt would need all the team resources.
I'm totally excited for what Nintendo announced. I wanted DKC:TP since it came out but I didn't have a WiiU and didn't want to get one. But now that I can, and I want Kirby as well. I'm all in. E3 will be a treat for the second half. I have wayyy too many games I want to play this year.
It's done by the 2D Mario group, but Pikmin also has it's own team if we are to believe EAD Ninja, iirc. Also staff is more amorphous among EPD in general than it would be for other studios. This is why trying to predict Nintendo first party output is so confusing/fun.
"doesn't help me" is what I said. I owned a Wii U. That makes things bleak, yes.
Ah ok, just crossed wires. The line-up as a whole I think is fine for Q1/2 as these are traditionally quiet months anyway and for a lot of people Tropical Freeze / Hyrule Warriors / Kirby / Bayo 1/2 are major releases. Theres plenty along with the swathes of quality indies. But just seemed odd Nintendo have absolutely ZERO original internally developed games releasing across either platform in Q1 & 2 - I know the Wii U times were bleak but there was plenty of 3DS stuff - thought this was interesting considering it seemed to be the opposite of what has been expected - that we'd see an uptick in output after the internal merging of studios etc etc maybe I'm way off the mark and this is perfectly normal?! Just stood out to me
Idk what to say man, Im excited but you're jaded. Happens with every console
DK and Kirby both sell multimillions. Mario Tennis likely will sell a few million. I could see Hyrule Warriors selling over a million copies as well. While none are in the 10+ Million range like Splatoon, Mario Kart and Odyssey. I dont think it is that terrible. Will wait and see but I could see a larger direct in March that reveals a few more titles for Q2 and beyond. My guess for releases will be:
Kirby Star Allies- March
Hyrule Warriors- April
DK- May
Mario Tennis- June
I mean, I'm still really excited about the Switch in general. I'm sure there will be some great Indies and third parties to play over the next several months. This seems to be coming across as angrier than I mean it to. I just think dismissing criticism of the lineup as 'people doing it to themselves by getting overhyped' is a bit much, considering how few original titles we appear to be getting from Nintendo in Q1&2.
Well it's a given. new tennis game = camelot. Nobody else is making those.
Well after the Mini Direct I'm wondering how Nintendo will play this. Will we get an actual Direct this month or February or will they wait until March/April. We've got dates for games through March. I'm guessing we'll have to wait for an actual Direct in March.
Maybe we'll get some individual game Directs.
Maybe we'll get some individual game Directs.
Thanks for the confirmation. Well Nintendo saving me money this year. I have nothing to buy through the first 4-5 months so far from what we know.
Yeah the Mario Aces game is from Camelot. I read the small print at the bottom when they showed the game.
I could see a Fire Emblem specific direct happening in the next couple months that really blows the lid off that Fire Emblem Switch game. Assuming it's still coming in 2018 I would think they need to drop some info on it sooner rather than later. I would be very surprised if we get to E3 without knowing anything about it.
Not quite sure about that. They've had a mini Direct and a full sized on in the same month before, so anything's possible.
People are exaggerating. Nintendo can do really good with the Switch with these games since new users are going to play the Wii U ports and the new games.
Before Iwata's passing away they were doing a major direct every 2 months. I could see them doing a regular direct in March outlining Q2 and some Q3 releases. Then have their June E3 direct outling their Q3 and most Q4 2018 titles. In August have a direct outlining the remainder of the year with a few small titles announced for late in the year. In October have a direct outlining Q4 and Q1 2019 titles. Then start it over again in January.
Nah. What we had were single-game focused together with normal ones. This was not that.
Oh absolutely, I just didn't realize it had been shown explicitly in the trailer(as has now been pointed out).
I expect a birthday or something Direct celebrating 1 year in March, a couple of teaser stuff with the full blowouts to come at E3. They really need Animal Crossing this year IMO, I honestly hope it comes.
That makes no sense. Pikmin 3 was done by Miyamoto plus EPD 4, so completely in house, I don't see why now it would be different and I don't see what Animal Crossing has to do with it.
I don't think so. It and Kirby's reception was about the same, with there still being lots of people interested, and there were indications it was always going to come later than Kirby (only had a general 2018 release date as opposed to Kirby's more specific Q2, Kirby getting a title before it, etc.)
So, EAD Ninja , we were wondering with some others, but did anyone ever find out what happened to Shinichi Shimomura?
Between the lack of any pictures or details, the theories about how it was a pen name for someone else (including Iwata), the rumors that he died in 2003, the possibilities that he got burnt out and left the industry... there's just nothing definitive to find on that Kirby director.
Between the lack of any pictures or details, the theories about how it was a pen name for someone else (including Iwata), the rumors that he died in 2003, the possibilities that he got burnt out and left the industry... there's just nothing definitive to find on that Kirby director.
With the current anouncement of Dark Souls remastered, its looking pretty likely that Nintendo hid easter eggs about most of their significant upcomming games as world idea's for Super Mario Odyssey.
I wonder what the Wooded Kingdom and New Donk City will end up being?
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I wonder what the Wooded Kingdom and New Donk City will end up being?
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Or maybe Nintendo EPD was just really into Destiny and Yakuza at the time
I hope E3 is big. Retro's game, Metroid Prime 4, Animal Crossing and maybe FE Switch if it doesn't release before E3 should be the headlining games.
The main prediction of mine that gets shuffled around for the second half of the year is that now Smash is probably going to be a Q3 release (September if I had to bet). For H1 Mario Tennis Aces will take May, HW: DE April outside Japan, and Yoshi in June.
Still hoping for Ocarina of Time HD as a December release as well... Slot a quirky new IP or two in whichever summer month doesn't get Fire Emblem (probably August) and December (not October since I think Retro's game will be a new IP around then). Pokemon of some sort (either mainline in a best-case scenario, or Mystery Dungeon/another spinoff) in November.
I still think MK9 will indeed be happening and that is probably going to be the team's next project out a couple years from now, especially since MK8D is now the only major 2017 Switch game with no DLC. Maybe with a side team working on ARMS 2.
Still hoping for Ocarina of Time HD as a December release as well... Slot a quirky new IP or two in whichever summer month doesn't get Fire Emblem (probably August) and December (not October since I think Retro's game will be a new IP around then). Pokemon of some sort (either mainline in a best-case scenario, or Mystery Dungeon/another spinoff) in November.
I still think MK9 will indeed be happening and that is probably going to be the team's next project out a couple years from now, especially since MK8D is now the only major 2017 Switch game with no DLC. Maybe with a side team working on ARMS 2.
Maybe someone can correct me on this if I'm wrong, but I remember last year that 1-up had a job listing for a programmer with experience in the action genre, turns out they were helping develop Odyssey. This year they are looking for someone with experience in the mobile games. Could they possibly be helping with a new 2018 mobile entry for Nintendo? I think deNA has done almost all the games so far, so would this be a possibility for them?
I think deNA mostly helps with the online infrastructure and monetization strategies. Nintendo's always worked on the design/assets.
I don't think the line up is that bad... sure, we don't have a BOTW big hitter but you have a lot of solid titles, like DK and Kirby. As for the Wii U ports complaint... we are in an enthusiast forum but most people haven't tried them. DKCTF in particular is an excellent game that got shafted hard on the Wii U and seriously deserves a second chance to shine.
This year we also have Octopath coming, probably second half of the year and announced at E3 at this rate.
This year we also have Octopath coming, probably second half of the year and announced at E3 at this rate.
I mean, Nintendo will have games in the second half too, including in the summer, fall, and holiday seasons.
I think they will get at least one huge game still, personally, whether that is 2D Mario, AC, or Pokemon.
Beyond that we'll still have FE and Octopath for core consumers.
And yes, many of these ports are of good games, some of which not many people have played (looking at TF).
I do think the "give space for third party" rhetoric that is either Nintendo's or forum goers (idk, I missed the actual presentation) is a bit strange though. They don't have heavy hitting third party games announced.
I want Ys VIII and DQB to do well, for example, but those are both late ports of games that have been on two or more PlayStation platforms (at least in Japan).
I think Dark Souls could do well, that's a bigger game.
Indies will probably continue doing well for indies, but they've been doing that in a big year for Nintendo, even when Nintendo was putting a lot of content out post-June as far as I can tell.
I think they will get at least one huge game still, personally, whether that is 2D Mario, AC, or Pokemon.
Beyond that we'll still have FE and Octopath for core consumers.
And yes, many of these ports are of good games, some of which not many people have played (looking at TF).
I do think the "give space for third party" rhetoric that is either Nintendo's or forum goers (idk, I missed the actual presentation) is a bit strange though. They don't have heavy hitting third party games announced.
I want Ys VIII and DQB to do well, for example, but those are both late ports of games that have been on two or more PlayStation platforms (at least in Japan).
I think Dark Souls could do well, that's a bigger game.
Indies will probably continue doing well for indies, but they've been doing that in a big year for Nintendo, even when Nintendo was putting a lot of content out post-June as far as I can tell.
Well Fire Emblem Heroes 1st anniversary is early next month, Warriors still has Shadow Dragon and Awakening characters DLC set for Feb & March and we have FE Switch somewhere afterward, so yeah, we will most likely get a specific direct soonish.
So, with the announcements of today we can say something about the games and studios making them:
Mario Tennis Aces - Nintendo/Camelot
Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze - Nintendo/Retro Studios (?)
Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition - Nintendo/Koei Tecmo/Omega Force/Team Ninja
Mario Tennis Aces - Nintendo/Camelot
Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze - Nintendo/Retro Studios (?)
Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition - Nintendo/Koei Tecmo/Omega Force/Team Ninja
Eh, I don't think the real deal here is if these multiple ports is good or bad for Nintendo, Nintendo doesn't have other choices, porting is what they can only do right now. It's pretty obvious if you look into their 2016 and 2017 lineup. They sacrificed WiiU's 2016, and we still got at least three ports for Switch in 2017. 1-2 switch is not a big title, Xenoblade 2 is heavily outsourcing, rushed and unpolished, even Splatoon 2 feels a bit rushed(that launch balancing). ARMS and Odyssey are the only two big games left. Switch's lack of good OS, lack of e-shop UI. I don't think Nintendo's Switch software output is "strong" development-wise. Nintendo cut lots of 3DS support last year, but those wont give Switch momentum until late 2018 or early 2019.
We say porting these game is good for Nintendo since we know that's all what they have for now. In a parallel universe people will rage since Nintendo is capable of making ten Mario Odyssey per year but all they do is porting.
And I hate the thoughts of Smash For port, that's means at least two more years wait from Smash 5.
We say porting these game is good for Nintendo since we know that's all what they have for now. In a parallel universe people will rage since Nintendo is capable of making ten Mario Odyssey per year but all they do is porting.
And I hate the thoughts of Smash For port, that's means at least two more years wait from Smash 5.
I big fuck you to Retro for all these years of secrecy for just a port if confirmed.
yes, because porting a Wii U game while adding 1 new character takes 90+ people 5 years
Seems like a good small project to familiarize themselves with Switch, notably newcomers if the team is growing
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