Don't know. Not many people have random votes on people come day end.
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Don't know. Not many people have random votes on people come day end.
It appears that you were correct, apparently neutrals are a treat to town too and thus may be referred to as scums. Thanks for educating me about the term, I will sleep less stupid tonight.
I officially remove my accusation of Saw as a neutral.
Can't see Fran as scum being so quick to defend another scum teammate. Fran is too experienced for that, would know to stay away as much as possible from fellow scum mates on a day when there's not much to go on and any little thing can set others off. Need more than that to scumread Fran
TLDR: Cabot told a bad joke and had to be put in the corner, and I woke up
Look again at my first post again and point to me where I'm defending Terra. I'm just explaining the rules. I still don't know the logic that Include used to think I'm scum from that.
I'm happy to be here with you! I just hope you're not scum again and we get to nail some evil dudes together :P
It seems I've a lot of catching up to do.
Not exactly uncommon in this community for day one.
PS: My vote is no longer a random vote, I am purposely voting you at this stage for real reasons.
Fran is actually very quick to jump at things, I don't know him as scum well (or at all? has he ever been scum when I'm around?) so I could see him doing that. I just don't think he defended anyone.
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Kyan trying to bait as well.
Thought Fran was more methodical, he was scum in one game I played with him, forget which it was, but was hard to read him. Didn't make obvious scumtells like "defending" scummates on D1. Anyway, do agree it really wasn't a defence of a scummate, so it doesn't really matter anyway.
Gafia 3. Noone remember that game? I know it was an Ouro's game but still.
Feel like there was another one, an earlier one, need to think on it. However, I have no recollection of Gafia 3, what happened again?
I was scum only in Gafia 3 and in Animal Crossing, but noone else played that game here (not counting ONUW).
We were neutrals together in Quarentine.
I was scum with WAMD, Gorlak, Kawl and Blarg. Blarg suicided himself, Sorian called us stupid, Kyan killed him before we could poison him, WAMD made a drunken mistake and got lynched, we won by a big margin.
i dont really remember which game, gir was also in it as an arsonist at the old forum
you were going hard on someone day 1 and then they made a "slip" which made you go after an inactive which happened to be scum
when he said last post this entire day phase, is it a slip maybe?
i dont/didnt really see it but it interested me at least
Just Mafia. I thought that Zubz knew that Cewyn was being replaced (he was sure about it even when Crimson, the mod, said nothing). I pushed for Cewyn lynch and was right. He was scum.
That could be a slip. I thought he had info that the rest of us didn't (like Cewyn telling him in scum chat that he asked for a replacement). But here? Terra's post isn't a slip. I don't see how it can be.
terraforce is very happy
hmmm day one style comments maaan someone is gonna call me out on this me thinks
maybe i should rebrand style as fluff and complain about that, that one always is a hit
Include-Terra exchange feels moderately artificial, more so towards the end. Terra gets more artificiality-points.
hmmm day one style comments maaan someone is gonna call me out on this me thinks
maybe i should rebrand style as fluff and complain about that, that one always is a hit
Include-Terra exchange feels moderately artificial, more so towards the end. Terra gets more artificiality-points.
This has been one of the least fluffiest D1s though? Even i have only gifd once.
Getting quiet though, might pick up with the yanks reaching their end of days
Detective Gorlak accuses Sawneeks of eternal scumminess. Surely nobody would joke about being scum for an eternity nor would that be any reason to feel pressured about looking different this time. Sarcasm detector says yes. Been in that position myself and I did joke about it and I did feel pressured. But hmm. Not sure if the "ZOMG I AM ETERNAL SCUM NO MORE" narrative was there before Gorlak brought it up.
mom what do you mean i have to read it all again. nuuu.
mom what do you mean i have to read it all again. nuuu.
In terms of topics, I agree. I was referencing some parts of the Terra-Include convo that felt ehh. Include for one seems all about the business but then she inserts strange fluff lines in her posts that make her seem not like a robot analyzing things in binary.
no fun allowed and everything must be black and white
i personally am gray
The one thing that bothers me the most about what's happened so far is that Terra's usual inquisitive demeanor seems to have been neutered by that early squabble over nothing with Include. Are you just afraid of dying early again, Terra?
And this is really weird as well. Why would a newbie bring up neutral roles on D1? It's so out there.
And this is really weird as well. Why would a newbie bring up neutral roles on D1? It's so out there.
So...did you not scum lean Include beforehand? Because this sounds strange to hear, especially given your earlier conversations.
Mate, you're being incredibly reactionary and it isn't a good look. That's basically saying that you want to 'solve' the suspicions around you and not do any detective work, which is less than the best way to scum hunt. Responding to Sorian is whatever since that was the first, but the second OMGUS voting is just...not good.
Added onto your lynch inactives initiative and I'm wondering about you right now. Surely you know putting forth that proposition on the second day of day 1 is meaningless? It's also suspect because if you end your vote on an inactive end of day you can just point to this and say 'I already said I would! I have a reason to vote them!'
Not particularly, no. Her weird behavior before that one felt more like the lie was about whether she was new to mafia or not. That's not really important to her alignment though, I've seen both town and scum underplay their actual experience. That one was an actual scummy thing though.
Oh, that seems irrelevant enough though, whether she has experience I mean.
I disagree. I'm not entirely comfortable with talking about another player's experience level, but I really don't think a Town newbie would be this bothered by a perceived Neutral read from another player (that probably didn't even exist in the first place):
It honestly makes it seem like Include is Neutral and got anxious about possibly being read that way so early.
My heart says you're gonna get yourself lynched today regardless of what alignment you actually are. Also to answer your original question myself, Neutrals are lumped in with Scum. Sometimes I will differentiate between the two when we have evidence that a Neutral actually exists but for the purposes of this, anything not aligned Town is Scum.
And I know this accusation of me being Neutral has come and gone while I've been sleeping, but I think Brazil actually brings up a good point:
Neutral isn't something one jumps to when new to the game in my experience and the fact that you jumped to it so early and that you accused someone else of being a Neutral feels like projecting to me.
I feel like a Scum Team would have tried and reigned you in by now though, so I'm doubtful there.
I was actually going to make a comment earlier that she was Lifeline in disguise. Which is why I'm not immediately discounting her, Lifeline may have thrown conspiracy theories but he nailed the entire Scum Team on Day 1 of his first game. We all have played with each other so much we probably sometimes ignore the obvious connections a new player would see immediately.
What do you read into that besides 'interesting', Fran?
btw your posts are making me nervous just reading them. Your posts are very reactive and jumpy.
Why Townie? Where are you getting that from him?
Not much really. Right now is: "if DCPat flip scum reread Swamped".
Had bad dreams of high school and tests and I blame you people.
So this Include/Terra business. I am definitely Team "What Slip?" when it comes to Terra. Nothing about that post was a gotcha. And trust me, I can tell a shitpost when I see one. It's either written by me or Kyan.
Lots of praise for Include at first coming hot out of the gate and now people are starting to dog-pile. Some strange theories and circular arguments there. And I don't think she has done a great job addressing questions but at this point assuming it is newbie nerves scum have likely latched on and waiting to push this in their favor. Hmm.
Felt good about what I've seen from girlofgotham today. So that makes me happy.
LP has given me nothing. Typical. Sidebar: I don't understand why Stan poked me to start a LP hunt. I do love them but seems a bit early in the day.
The subtle undercurrent of "what alignment is Sawneeks" throughout the day seems forced and just there for a talking point for some people.
Fran can't seem to please you people regardless of how he plays. Ah, Meta. You cruel mistress.
Splinter has been generally harmless thus far (fangless??) and so I'll release you.
Close your eyes.
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So this Include/Terra business. I am definitely Team "What Slip?" when it comes to Terra. Nothing about that post was a gotcha. And trust me, I can tell a shitpost when I see one. It's either written by me or Kyan.
Lots of praise for Include at first coming hot out of the gate and now people are starting to dog-pile. Some strange theories and circular arguments there. And I don't think she has done a great job addressing questions but at this point assuming it is newbie nerves scum have likely latched on and waiting to push this in their favor. Hmm.
Felt good about what I've seen from girlofgotham today. So that makes me happy.
LP has given me nothing. Typical. Sidebar: I don't understand why Stan poked me to start a LP hunt. I do love them but seems a bit early in the day.
The subtle undercurrent of "what alignment is Sawneeks" throughout the day seems forced and just there for a talking point for some people.
Fran can't seem to please you people regardless of how he plays. Ah, Meta. You cruel mistress.
Splinter has been generally harmless thus far (fangless??) and so I'll release you.
Close your eyes.
Unvote
He has 9 posts. Most of which was spent on his anti-bold movement and this has been his only post of note, that's relevant to the game itself:
That's a note ... of something.
Who are you feeling Ty?
Vote: Benghis Khan
Wakey wakey. Time for class.
Pretty much what I said yesterday when you voted for me.
So basically...no thank you.
I feel like DCPat capitulated too easily and should've stood his ground instead of getting out of sorts because of Stan's vote. And yeah, Stan jumping on the vote on the first place seemed a little overeager and could be easily dismissed as a half-hearted vote, and now it makes DC the more suspicious one.
Maybe Include. What gets me the most is that her accusations feel forced. That reminds me a little of scum!kitsune in love boat. They were similarly going against, it had a different connect with kitsune being asked to provide some content after having produced little, but had the same forced accusations made.
She gets slight townie points for having started off like this and the 180 on sawneeks.
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Rac has stood a bit out for being on the sidelines. He didn't make much of an impression despite posting quite a lot.
DC is unapologetic which gives me pause but I need more than just dropping the whole thing and pretending it doesn't matter.
An incorrect note which Splinter hasn't gotten back to me about quite yet.
Include started that followed by Rac, and he just ignores Gorlak mentioned 'slip' too.
dunno why you give him a pass for it.
No question as to why? No wanting to know why I think you may be Scum?
Gotham's first game was Cluedo which we were Scum together. This is her second game.
Is that not Rac though?
Do you feel that if Include is scum she is busing a teammate!Saw or just throwing theories out there to create chaos? (I confess I didn't read Love Boat as closely I should've.) I would think a scum team wouldn't be so supporting of Include's spotlight grabbing move especially now that it is casing a lot of doubt. Certainly, doesn't seem like the best strategy to come up with for a newbie player in a veteran heavy game. Suppose that could be what they want us to think.
Also would like to know the answer to this. And afterwards, what response Saw was looking for, that I presume (?) she didn't get.
So would you say you both know each other's scuml habits...intimately?
Ty is totes my favorite so far. I liked Ty's responses and pressing of Include. He both seemed genuine and some of his posts were nigh word for word what I was thinking in response to Include. I still don't like how dismissive she seems to be, and Ty is completely justified in what he said. Include posed several different questions against me that seemed to imply a response was warranted, and yet she has a dispute with being asked to do the same.
Pretty standard contradiction right there. And post #322 is like she didn't even read Ty's post as she ignored his last point entirely. I can't tell if she was just tired of having to respond, but that interaction makes me feel a lot more comfortable with Ty and much less so with Include.
Haven't played with Sorian before so not sure what I expected but I like the some kinda fire coming from him. I'll have to do a brief ISO of DCPat to get my final thoughts on the matter, but so far I like where Sorian is coming from on the matter. DC felt far too reactionary as I was catching back up, and the retaliation vote on both Sorian and Stan came across as super weak and with little follow through until he was prodded on the matter. Then he almost seemed too quick to back off. Dunno, just didn't sit well with me.
Splinter is a lot more quiet than I recall from Berserk. Nothing to comment on, buddy?
Vote: *Splinter
Pretty standard contradiction right there. And post #322 is like she didn't even read Ty's post as she ignored his last point entirely. I can't tell if she was just tired of having to respond, but that interaction makes me feel a lot more comfortable with Ty and much less so with Include.
Haven't played with Sorian before so not sure what I expected but I like the some kinda fire coming from him. I'll have to do a brief ISO of DCPat to get my final thoughts on the matter, but so far I like where Sorian is coming from on the matter. DC felt far too reactionary as I was catching back up, and the retaliation vote on both Sorian and Stan came across as super weak and with little follow through until he was prodded on the matter. Then he almost seemed too quick to back off. Dunno, just didn't sit well with me.
Splinter is a lot more quiet than I recall from Berserk. Nothing to comment on, buddy?
Vote: *Splinter
Don't know what to make of that post. As I just said to Ty.
And thanks.
Man I definitely read Gotham's posts but I don't remember much at all about how I feel about her. Felt like a whole lot of nothing, but that's probably more on me right now than her. Chemistry really is a killer on multiple levels. I still ask myself why I chose that darn major but at least I'm about finished with it.
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