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Television Displays and Technology Thread: The ERA of OLED is Now
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https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x900e
Here is more info for you. This set was kind of the winner for this years mid-range offerings overtaking the Samsung 5500 from last year.
I'm still team discs. I like knowing that I am getting the best PQ I can.
Anyone have experience with Vizio P-Series 65" TVs? Reviews seem to be quite positive, but I have no idea whether to spend the 1500 on that or wait for the Samsung QLED 9f or the Sony Bravia to go on sale. Oh, I am buying it for movies, not gaming.
My buddy has one and it's a great set. But honestly, now that we're in January, unless you NEED to buy today I'd wait for reviews on the 2018 sets.
That Vizio set has DV and seems to be upgradeable to HDR10+, but waiting is probably a good idea. Thanks!
And I was speaking with someone about DV and HDR10+ yesterday as it relates to UHD blurays. Do current UHDs only have HDR and not DV, or is all this done at the television level (yes, this may be a weird question, but he seemed to state that movies would be re-released with DV.)
And I was speaking with someone about DV and HDR10+ yesterday as it relates to UHD blurays. Do current UHDs only have HDR and not DV, or is all this done at the television level (yes, this may be a weird question, but he seemed to state that movies would be re-released with DV.)
Hey, I was looking for some suggestions. I currently own an 55 inch LG 1080p 3D OLED TV without HDR and am actually very happy with it. However, I am curious how much better the image on an 65 inch 4k HDR OLED like the Sony A1 would be. Is the HDR actually really noticably better on OLED? I ask this because the image on my OLED already is really nice and I would miss the 3D, but would you say the jump to 65 inch, 4k and HDR would still be worth it? Thanks a lot!
Sweet how did you all get so early, mine doesn't get here until Tues from amazon and I preordered ages ago.The steelbook is pretty nice I got it in the mail yesterday.
I usually pre order from best buy. They have been doing great lately and been delivering the week before. Happened with IT, Dunkirk, Kingsman, Bladerunner, and a few others. I have received them all the week prior to release Wednesday or Thursday
A handful of UHD Blu-rays include DV. Will probably be more common as time goes on. All include regular HDR10.
Well, after a few months thinking about it I pulled the trigger on a LG OLED55E6V. They are no longer available in shops but found a manufacturer refurbished one in the wild. I'm not ready to give up 3D and after CES this seems like the best passive TV for that for a while at least. This thread has given me lots of info on things to look out for like banding etc. I asked about the firmware version because of the HDR in the newest one and the shop said it would basically be as new so hopefully that will be OK. I will give it a thorough check when it arrives and have a 30 day return window.
Now I need to start working out the optimal settings for the various things I will plug into it. My AV receiver doesn't do 4K so going to plug my PS4 and PC directly into the TV and use optical for audio for now at least. Maybe I will get a new receiver in the summer as a birthday gift to myself :P I think I read I need to do something funky with the PC input to get it working correctly? Also need a 4K Blu Ray player actually so going to start researching those...
Edit: Is there no way of telling with Netflix or Amazon Video if a movie/show is available in 4K? Or do you need to be viewing the store front with a device outputting 4K for it to tell you? Either way it seems like a design flaw with both services. I want to start planning my future viewing dammit :P
Now I need to start working out the optimal settings for the various things I will plug into it. My AV receiver doesn't do 4K so going to plug my PS4 and PC directly into the TV and use optical for audio for now at least. Maybe I will get a new receiver in the summer as a birthday gift to myself :P I think I read I need to do something funky with the PC input to get it working correctly? Also need a 4K Blu Ray player actually so going to start researching those...
Edit: Is there no way of telling with Netflix or Amazon Video if a movie/show is available in 4K? Or do you need to be viewing the store front with a device outputting 4K for it to tell you? Either way it seems like a design flaw with both services. I want to start planning my future viewing dammit :P
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For anyone on a budget, looks like Wal-Mart has the LG UP870 for $50
https://slickdeals.net/f/11155495-lg-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-walmart-b-m-49-99-taxes
Can't personally vouch for quality but that's pretty low for a UHD player
https://slickdeals.net/f/11155495-lg-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-walmart-b-m-49-99-taxes
Can't personally vouch for quality but that's pretty low for a UHD player
The steelbook is pretty nice I got it in the mail yesterday.
Is the digital code 4k with hdr? Does the disc itself have Dolby vision?
Honestly, it felt like a "wait for 2.1" year, although we haven't yet seen Samsung's offerings or Sony's ZD9 replacement.
The future is super bright (pun intended) with OLED, 10,000 nit LEDs and microLED stuff all being shown in one capacity or another.
Lastly, 4K projector prices have dropped like a rock and are looking really feasible now (think $2000 total for a FauxK projector and screen combo which would give you 120" of HDR (not real but close) 4K)
So it seems LG OLEDS just have a CPU upgrade for better picture control? Wonder if its worth waiting for or just jump in now.
Man, it's tough. I'd have a hard time buying an expensive TV right now as we're so close to HDMI 2.1 which looks to be really future proofed. Many in here would disagree though saying to buy when you need it.
Hey guys, apologies if this has been answered before, but I've got an LG C7 question. I received my 55inch LG OLED today and I'm mostly REALLY happy with the purchase. However, I can't help noticing that it auto-dims when I'm web-browsing. I run my PC through it and on this very forum alone I can see it constantly changing between brightness autonomously despite me turning all of that stuff off. Anyone have any ideas?
They added a black frame insertion option as well, though it remains to be seen if it is any good. Pretty weak year for OLED improvements overall, though.
The LCD sets seemed to have more interesting improvements, but it remains to be seen what actually comes to market this year and at what price levels.
It's called micro-dimming, and it's the scourge of modern TVs. My Samsung KS9000 does the same thing whenever the TV notices a dark scene. Just lowers the *fuck* out of the backlight to, I guess, make the blacks blacker or whatever. Can't be turned off.
No Dolby Vision on the disc but the code should redeem in 4K.
I'm real big fan of the steelbook they got in Taiwan.
Maybe I misheard but I was under the impression they don't make very good 4k/hdr players. The Sony x800 dedicated player seems to be favored, albeit expensive.
I would go with a dedicated player, no question. They're not that much more expensive, the LG one posted above is much cheaper. The ones currently on the market should go down in price when the newer models hit stores soon.
Right now I'm conflicted on what to get, a dedicated 4K Blu Ray player or an Apple TV 4K. Less clutter is ideal, with strong Dolby Vision support on iTunes but at the same time, I do want to purchase some 4K steelbooks here and there. What are the chances of The Last Jedi 4K Blu Ray having a digital iTunes code?
The myth about One S being the most affordable 4K player still persists I see. You can get standalone players for sub-$100 if you shop around. The X800 is very good quality and under $200 on Amazon right now.
You'll get a digital copy, won't be 4K though. Disney and Apple can't agree on pricing for 4K titles, Disney wants to increase prices over 1080p, Apple doesn't. We'll see who blinks first.
You'll get a digital copy, won't be 4K though. Disney and Apple can't agree on pricing for 4K titles, Disney wants to increase prices over 1080p, Apple doesn't. We'll see who blinks first.
Thanks for posting this! My local Walmart was sold out but one about 15 minutes away had two in stock, so I nabbed one, couldn't say no for $50. The player works as advertised, plays UHD Blu-rays... I have an Xbox 1X and 1S, and this LG outputs the gamma correctly, so it's an upgrade over those. The downside is that it is extremely barebones. No app integration, no Wifi, nothing but Blu-ray and UHD Blu-ray play.
The output on the Xbox consoles is messed up. If you compare them with Blu-rays or UHD Blu-rays, it's immediately obvious. Get a standalone instead.
The myth of if being the most affordable persists as much as the hyperbole of it being a trash player. I would honestly not even notice a difference between my Xbox One S and Sony UBP-X800D. Vincent had to do a side by side to show the color space issues which he would notice as he prefers D65/6500K.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnar...one-x-4k-blu-ray-player-review-getting-there/
This article above ranks the Xbox One X version and admits only the very eagle eyed would notice a difference especially if side by side. I used and still use the Xbox One S, barely any issues for over a year plus now. I have a dedicated player only because it was cheap and because I have two 4K televisions. A dedicated player is always better.
But as you said you don't care about any gaming aspect, get a standalone player. However if you never owned an Xbox One before, it is a good cheap way to get pretty great UHD blu-ray playback, as well as get to try some exclusives you never have. As gamers, it is why I long said last year getting an Xbox One S allows you to kill two birds with one stone if you have a 4K HDR television and already a PS4 or PS4 Pro or want to game more. Keep in mind Microsoft will still have the ability to update and fix any issues. Standalones rarely get any updatea beyond the first year.
Ugh, that's so annoying, but thanks for explaining. It's something I can totally live with film and games-wise as I don't even notice it but, as I said, I also use my PC through my TV and it's so annoying when forum browsing or using Twitter.
It's making me consider going back to a PC desk setup for that stuff now, which is obviously further expense *grumble*.
Micro-dimming? On an OLED?
I think what's happening is your ABL is kicking in. You can get around it by lowering your panel's brightness to like 30 or whatever the threshold is on the 2017 models.
If I'm not mistaken, what's happening is the white background of the web page is too bright so the TV dims the picture. I've not heard of micro-dimming on anything other than a Samsung TV.
Never knew that either, that will make a huge difference in the motion resolution.
It should have native motion resolution unless i am mistaken, the panel response for LCD over OLED is hugely in favour of OLED, it should prevent the trail that can happen with ULMB on an LCD panel.
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I'm on a dillema ERA. I need your help. I can either get the Sony XBR75900E (75' 900e) for $2498 or a Oled LG C7 65' for $2350. Main use would be movies and gaming. I'm kinda leaning to the Oled, but man, 75' is nice too. I'm tired of having grayish blacks, blooming and etc, however people swear by the 900e's.... Which would you choose money not being an issue?
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Checked Best Buy and I finally got something I was hoping for the last couple of weeks.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-5...th-high-dynamic-range/5748209.p?skuId=5748209
Currently, for the Sony 55' 900e, it is at an even $1000. A while back ago, I posted the question to wait for grab this TV and the patience has paid off. I wanted to make sure that in terms of the gaming TV if this will be a good one to grab or if I should look into something else. I'm sure it is but never hurts to get that confirmation from fellow gamers. ^__^
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-5...th-high-dynamic-range/5748209.p?skuId=5748209
Currently, for the Sony 55' 900e, it is at an even $1000. A while back ago, I posted the question to wait for grab this TV and the patience has paid off. I wanted to make sure that in terms of the gaming TV if this will be a good one to grab or if I should look into something else. I'm sure it is but never hurts to get that confirmation from fellow gamers. ^__^
Blooming and grayish blacks are still an issue on the 900E so it sounds like you should join the OLED club. Personally, the only LCD I'd even consider at this point is the Z9 and it's eventual successor.
I see, I keep reading reviews where they say it has "inky blacks" but I guess they haven't seen an Oled.
If you're tired of blooming and not necessarily the best blacks, go OLED. The X900E and C7 are in different brackets per se. The size is great but 65" OLED would be good to have too. Keep in mind the 2018 Sony are coming too, and this time the X900F will go upto 85" with better blacks and better processing whereas the OLED are pretty much the same. Go for the C7.
It does have very inky blacks, they are very deep especially for an LCD/LED. But an OLED has infinite blacks so it still is really no comparison. The Z9D is where you start getting very very close to OLED level blacks but you'll never equal or surpass them due to the need for some form of lighting.
They refresh at 120 hz so they duplicate each frame 5 times for a similar result. Just don't expect plasma motion though, as sample and hold tech doesn't smooth out the motion and 24 FPS motion looks a little harsh.
The 2018 C series is coming in a 77" size, you'll probably just need close to 10k to buy it.
Question for 2017 LG OLED owners. I've been using my B7 for Switch games a lot lately and I'm noticing some IR from my home screen icons after only 45-60 seconds sitting on that screen. Reading this thread for the past 2.5 months, I've gotten the sense that some of these panels are more resistant to IR than others, and I'm trying to gauge if that's the case in fellow owners' experience.
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