President Trump in "excellent health", more details next Tuesday
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The way the guy seems to rail against official statements, why am I expecting a tweet saying "FAKE NEWS, I am not in excellent health. I'm in the worst health"
Seriously - the guy is 70 odd, does fuck all exercise and 'would eat McDonalds in bed every night if he could' (direct quote from his family). The guys probably fuuuuuucked health wise
Seriously - the guy is 70 odd, does fuck all exercise and 'would eat McDonalds in bed every night if he could' (direct quote from his family). The guys probably fuuuuuucked health wise
I made the mistake of taking a large drink of coffee right before reading your post. Now, coffee is everywhere except in my mouth.
Would you consider someone relying on multiple pills a day to have "excellent health"? Feels quite weird to me. What about those that don't need them? Demigods of health?
I don't care about the descriptions used. My only point was that it is only logical that a billionaire POTUS with literally all the medical possibilities of the world at his feet is in good health. If you declared anyone who takes any sort of pills as unhealthy then you'd have probably more unhealthy people than healthy ones. In regards to the aspirin he takes, that is very common and completely normal and based on several studies that show that daily aspirin after a certain age helps minimize the heart attack risk. My father takes that as well. In regards to cholesterine fixers, sure a healthy lifestyle could help fight that without medicine, assuming that the high cholesterine isn't genetic. I still think you have very romantic and naive perceptions of 70 year olds health situations. Most will sooner or later take some form of pills unless they never visit their doctor.
And of course he's overweight and the language used is compensating a lot, I don't think anyone is denying that. Still doesn't automatically mean you are unhealthy in the sense of health risks threatening you. In a way I guess it depends mostly on your definition of healthy. Is someone overweight automatically unhealthy? Does "healthy" describe the de-facto situation or the base situation? If it's the latter, is someone with a genetic vitamin defiency always unhealthy despite feeling and testing completely after regularly taking supplements? Is someone with allergies always to be labelled "unhealthy" despite it being fine with allergy tablets?
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Oh my god he's dying isn't he.
The moment I read the thread title, this was my first thought...
The moment I read the thread title, this was my first thought...
My views about the questions you bring up are:
Yes, being overweight is an inherent health risk which means you're not in great health.
It is very much about the base situation. You can't tell my my grandmother, who takes like ten pills a day, is as healthy as someone her age who has the same stats without relying on meds. She is clearly not healthy.
Having a genetic condition that makes you lack vitamins? Suffering from a permanent allergy to something? Yeah, that's not healthy. Removing the symptoms does not make you healthy, right?
I dont get this reliance on risk. My uncle has a condition that causes immense pain. Nothing else, no risks or anything. As long as he takes heavy painkillers, will he be healthy?
Then frankly you have an incredibly broad definition of "unhealthy" that is simply not feasible in reality. I have a grass pollen allergy which I feel in May-June, according to you I'm now an unhealthy individual.
In my opinion there definitely has to be a sort of health risk vs medicine/measures necessary consideration in regards to who falls in what category. "Healthy" to me does not equal "perfect human being with not the tiniest deficiences, allergies or else", even less so the opposite or branding everyone as unhealthy (and the negative societal consequences it carries).
So when doctors recommend everyone after a certain age should take a small daily dose of aspirin to prevent heart attacks, people who follow that are not unhealthy in my opinion.
And in the 300-350 lbs range on a strictly fast food diet and no physical activity because physical activity drains the limited amount of stamina a human body is born with, its totally not because hes lazy.
Well then, guess our definitions differ.
Either way, a preventative aspirin that is recommended for everyone is a bit different from treating health risks that come with obesity and terrible diet. Just as my poor uncle still has his disease when he is without pain, obesity is still unhealthy even when the risks are treated. So in my eyes, being healthy is simply impossible for many people, yes.
And yet, there are people his age who don't rely on cholesterol meds, for example. Some may even run marathons. Those are in excellent health, assuming nothing else is wrong. Trump is not.
Trump is definitely not in excellent health, but he is in OK health for an American of his age. He has never smoked or drunk alcohol and has lived a life of permanent luxury with the finest doctors and care at his disposal.
He is a fat slob but he's not about to drop dead. "Excellent health" is just typical Trumpspeak for "not in poor health".
He is a fat slob but he's not about to drop dead. "Excellent health" is just typical Trumpspeak for "not in poor health".
Yep. It may absolutely be true he is in excellent health for his age. Of course they'd never advertise that caveat. He's not in excellent health compared to a 21 year old athlete, but his fast food habits don't mean he's at some nadir of human well-being. There is a space between the best and worst of everything.
I'm not American and good healthcare doesn't prevent you from obesity, high-blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabeties, heart disease and other complications due to not eating right & not excercises which from everything observed the president has that issue, and at 71 with a slower metabolism, its important to take care of your body and not eat junk.
That's one of Trump's main problem. He can't do little white lies. They always have to be borderline absurd.
That's because your whole post was a shit post with no evidence. There's no secret FDA approved medication that only the POTUS can take, and that's why they admit he take statin. If his baseline cholesterol before his presidency was a little high, and is normalize with statin ,(with possible side effects of memory lost) then you don't just take more and magically create a baseline of health he didn't have before.
There's a clear reason why doctors recommend prevented health care routine, such as changing diet and exercising daily.
Combined with his reported newer more extreme McDonalds diet, and his sedentary lifestyle he is definitely unhealthy and has an elevated risk for many diseases.
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The doctor aiming for a Fake News Award in the health category. I'm no doctor, but he's an unhealthy slob that's teetering on croaking. And golf, while a healthy activity, is much healthier if you don't ride the cart all over.
LOL. 239. At his height with those hideous ill-fitting suits hiding his obesity. Add on another 30-40 pounds at the very least.
I'd say stop drinking Diet Coke but then the dumbass would accidentally nuke Canada
Bullshit. This is a faked medical report from Kazakhstan. Trump has to do a physical exam on live television with a physician voted on by the American people before I'll accept this.
Are we certain Trump wasn't born in Kazakhstan? Are we even sure Trump has a mother? Can Trump prove he didn't fall from his father's asshole?
Are we certain Trump wasn't born in Kazakhstan? Are we even sure Trump has a mother? Can Trump prove he didn't fall from his father's asshole?
So even at 239 he is a pound under obese. There is ZERO chance Trump weighs that little but even if so. He is 71 and obese. That is not "in excellent health"
Just FYI, a work-up like this means no substantial neurocognitive tests were performed. Typically you'd administer something like an RBANS to evaluate functioning. He was likely given the Mini-Mental Status Exam which is a 5 minute verbal assessment. If he truly wanted a cognitive assessment, he'd have to sit through 45 minutes to 1 hour of intellectual testing. No way in fucking hell does Trump sit through something like that.
EDIT: It was the fucking MMSE
http://www.dementiatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/MiniMentalStateExamination.pdf
Top score is 30/30. Look for yourself at how hard it is.
EDIT: It was the fucking MMSE
http://www.dementiatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/MiniMentalStateExamination.pdf
Top score is 30/30. Look for yourself at how hard it is.
So what's youre saying is, his score was originally 30/100 but they moved the scale to 30/30. Sounds right
I'm picturing six presidential aids tripping over each other to do Trump's exam for him while Trump licks his lips and chews Starbursts.
What exactly is an ultrasound supposed to show in this case? Especially related to neurological function.
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No way he's only 239 - they just don't want to admit he's obese. Put me down for 270-275.