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Mark Freeman

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Oct 31, 2017
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Everyone needs to go watch the Cool Greg interviewing Famous Greg Decemeber AMA, is 2 hours 16 mins of amazing content so heartfelt and honest, with 16 mins of QA at the end. One of there best videos in a while with a fair amount of info etc in. Highly Reccomened
 

Noah Om

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Oct 25, 2017
803
Everyone needs to go watch the Cool Greg interviewing Famous Greg Decemeber AMA, is 2 hours 16 mins of amazing content so heartfelt and honest, with 16 mins of QA at the end. One of there best videos in a while with a fair amount of info etc in. Highly Reccomened

It's true. That interview is definitely some of the best content they've ever made. Everyone should check it out for sure.

Also it's awesome how natural Cool Greg is on camera hahah.
 

Nav

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Oct 27, 2017
1,904
Ditto on the Cool Greg video. Nailed it.

Also, really appreciate how GOTY was handled. Incredibly respectful and chill after all the drama, hype, and build up. Mad respect to Tim for stating how his views changed on Cuphead. I was down on the game after hearing E3 impressions way back when and due to the delays. Now I really want to try it.

Also, I am happy to share my GOTY pick with Greg and BKD.
 

JJH

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Oct 27, 2017
2,881
Couldn't make it through the GOTY podcast. Andrea constantly trying to dominate her opinion about BOTW was a huge turnoff. Zelda's not my personal GOTY, but saying if it wasn't Zelda it wouldn't have made top ten lists? I don't have any problems with her opinions but her dismissive ways talking about this subject is not why I listen to KF.
 

Maximo

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Oct 25, 2017
9,192
Couldn't make it through the GOTY podcast. Andrea constantly trying to dominate her opinion about BOTW was a huge turnoff. Zelda's not my personal GOTY, but saying if it wasn't Zelda it wouldn't have made top ten lists? I don't have any problems with her opinions but her dismissive ways talking about this subject is not why I listen to KF.

She's having fun messing with them, I would give my mates as much if not more shit.
 

Dysun

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Oct 25, 2017
4,975
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Andrea comes off pretty bad whenever Nintendo gets brought up. It was doubly funny when she tried to insinuate that Mario is a lesser game for not having a story.
 

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Couldn't make it through the GOTY podcast. Andrea constantly trying to dominate her opinion about BOTW was a huge turnoff. Zelda's not my personal GOTY, but saying if it wasn't Zelda it wouldn't have made top ten lists? I don't have any problems with her opinions but her dismissive ways talking about this subject is not why I listen to KF.
I mean I can sort of see her point, without the Zelda veneer it's a very basic and fairly barren open world game.
 
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Brucey

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Jan 2, 2018
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Finished latest games cast. Was a bit dissapointed their wasn't more "sleeper hits" mentioned. Also was sad to see when someone would mention a game Greg would chime in and say "Yeah I got a few hours in, but..."

Feels like he did that quite a bit this year. Hopefully 2018 treats him good.
 

EdReedFan20

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Oct 25, 2017
2,998
I mean I can sort of see her point, with the Zelda veneer it's a very basic and fairly barren open world game.

I really liked the game, but it really is such a barren open world. In my opinion, there were not just enough quests or they're just not easy to find. The quests that I did have in my quest log were all endgame or required me to be better prepared. I think if it had way more smaller side-quests, I probably wouldn't have bounced off of it as quickly as I did. I do hope the next Elder Scrolls takes inspiration from Zelda though, with the crazy options available to players. Like, in TESVI (when it comes out), I'd love to be able to dip an arrow into flames and shoot an enemy (burning them) or an environment (causing a fire, maybe creating a barrier from enemies). I should note that I can't stop playing The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim VR.
 

Mezoly

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Oct 25, 2017
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Breath of the Wild felt aimless and that's why people love it because they could do anything, it's the same reason I don't have it as highly regarded as others. I need goals or some sort of a hook to keep playing. I'm 40 hours in and only 2 main quests left and I have no motivation to keep playing. I had my fill of the gameplay loop. The open world is beautifully crafted but nothing interesting to do in it. With all that said, I would never say it doesn't deserve the accolades/scores and I think it's disrespectful to others opinions to say if it wasn't Zelda it wouldn't get high scores.
 
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ZeroNoir_

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Oct 25, 2017
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Couldn't make it through the GOTY podcast. Andrea constantly trying to dominate her opinion about BOTW was a huge turnoff. Zelda's not my personal GOTY, but saying if it wasn't Zelda it wouldn't have made top ten lists? I don't have any problems with her opinions but her dismissive ways talking about this subject is not why I listen to KF.

Andrea has a bias against Nintendo, and Greg has a bias for Sony. It's the way it is.
 

Mezoly

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Oct 25, 2017
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I feel like Greg now has a Bias for Nintendo its been Andrea that has called him out in the past for things.
Greg has a bias for portables because he travels a lot. It used to be PSP and Vita because they were the high end portables and now it's the Switch. He likes console quality games on the go and what hardware provides that he will be biased towards that hardware. I mean he likes the PSP/Vita God of Wars, Persona, and the MGS Piece walker the most out of these franchises solely due to portability. But that just my own observation from watching Greg for years.
 

Lashley

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Oct 25, 2017
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Forgot to even look for a thread for this after frequenting the old one on that site

Anyways, hi
 

moose84

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Oct 27, 2017
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I used to love listening to Andrea, but no longer. As if her positioning her opinions as fact wasn't bad enough (PUBG, GOTY criteria etc) the latest Daily show has her hating on Nintendo (as usual) but worse, when the chat turns to Switch selling like crazy via NPD, she immediately downplays it with a tedious "but PS4 is doing better!" using an apples to oranges comparison of heavily discounted worldwide PS4 sales vs Switch sales in the US alone. It was cringey. And of course, hating on Labo too. The cardboard probably needs a strong narrative storyline and some mocap to resonate with her.
 

Dantendo

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Oct 27, 2017
228
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I used to love listening to Andrea, but no longer. As if her positioning her opinions as fact wasn't bad enough (PUBG, GOTY criteria etc) the latest Daily show has her hating on Nintendo (as usual) but worse, when the chat turns to Switch selling like crazy via NPD, she immediately downplays it with a tedious "but PS4 is doing better!" using an apples to oranges comparison of heavily discounted worldwide PS4 sales vs Switch sales in the US alone. It was cringey. And of course, hating on Labo too. The cardboard probably needs a strong narrative storyline and some mocap to resonate with her.

I deleted the podcast at that point. Andrea episodes that involve positive Nintendo news as a discussion topic is clickbait at this point.
 

Kikuchiyosuke

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Jan 11, 2018
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Huh, just listened to the latest episode and I don't think about Andrea that way at all. Or maybe because we have the same sentiments...
 

Lashley

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I used to love listening to Andrea, but no longer. As if her positioning her opinions as fact wasn't bad enough (PUBG, GOTY criteria etc) the latest Daily show has her hating on Nintendo (as usual) but worse, when the chat turns to Switch selling like crazy via NPD, she immediately downplays it with a tedious "but PS4 is doing better!" using an apples to oranges comparison of heavily discounted worldwide PS4 sales vs Switch sales in the US alone. It was cringey. And of course, hating on Labo too. The cardboard probably needs a strong narrative storyline and some mocap to resonate with her.
I've avoided Andrea episodes for months now
 

Noah Om

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Oct 25, 2017
803
I mean I get that some of you disagree with Andrea, but is that really cause to straight up avoid the show just because you disagree with someone? I think she has great points of view and while I certainly disagree with her on some of her points, I think she's very well-spoken and brings a lot of insight to KFGD. Andrea is an awesome person too!
 

Lashley

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I mean I get that some of you disagree with Andrea, but is that really cause to straight up avoid the show just because you disagree with someone? I think she has great points of view and while I certainly disagree with her on some of her points, I think she's very well-spoken and brings a lot of insight to KFGD. Andrea is an awesome person too!
It's more her know-it-all attitude that puts me off tbh
 

ghornett

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Nov 16, 2017
155
Her condescending tone is what gets me. I'll overhype Nintendo announcements all I want, thanks.
 

stan_marsh

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Oct 25, 2017
8,688
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Have to agree, Andrea is getting more and more annoying. Super stubborn, which is fine but if you're wrong, own up.
GF and I dropped What's Good Game Podcast.

I'd recommend everyone check out The Polygon Show, amazing all-female gaming podcast.
 

Noah Om

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Oct 25, 2017
803
You all make fair points and I could see why that would be frustrating. I guess I just personally don't notice it/get bothered by it.

I absolutely value Andrea as part of the rotation, I find her differing opinions refreshing personally.

I used to love listening to Andrea, but no longer. As if her positioning her opinions as fact wasn't bad enough (PUBG, GOTY criteria etc) the latest Daily show has her hating on Nintendo (as usual) but worse, when the chat turns to Switch selling like crazy via NPD, she immediately downplays it with a tedious "but PS4 is doing better!" using an apples to oranges comparison of heavily discounted worldwide PS4 sales vs Switch sales in the US alone. It was cringey. And of course, hating on Labo too. The cardboard probably needs a strong narrative storyline and some mocap to resonate with her.

Like here, I didn't find what she said to be "hating" on Nintendo at all. Referring to Labo, she praised the idea but raises a good point (that has been brought up in posts here as well) about the expensiveness of the product and the likely hood of children breaking it. Those are fair points and I don't think she's hating on the idea at all. In fact I recall her saying how great the idea is for kids. When she brought up the PS4 sales, she wasn't downplaying Switch sales at all only adding additional context to the story. As she even mentioned she wish she had Xbox One data to also add into the mix. Having the complete picture makes for better discussion and is way more informative. I took it as, "hey PS4 is still also selling incredibly well and here's a look at how the console industry is doing as a whole per Business Insider."
 

Wingfan19

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Oct 25, 2017
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You all make fair points and I could see why that would be frustrating. I guess I just personally don't notice it/get bothered by it.

I absolutely value Andrea as part of the rotation, I find her differing opinions refreshing personally.



Like here, I didn't find what she said to be "hating" on Nintendo at all. Referring to Labo, she praised the idea but raises a good point (that has been brought up in posts here as well) about the expensiveness of the product and the likely hood of children breaking it. Those are fair points and I don't think she's hating on the idea at all. In fact I recall her saying how great the idea is for kids. When she brought up the PS4 sales, she wasn't downplaying Switch sales at all only adding additional context to the story. As she even mentioned she wish she had Xbox One data to also add into the mix. Having the complete picture makes for better discussion and is way more informative. I took it as, "hey PS4 is still also selling incredibly well and here's a look at how the console industry is doing as a whole per Business Insider."
I agree with all of this. I really like Andrea on the show, she's a good foil to Greg.
 

pixeldreams

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't listen to the daily shows, but was surprised at how much she went after Odyssey during GOTY, especially for the story being the same thing as previous games. As if any Mario players ever go to those games for story?
 

Maximo

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Oct 25, 2017
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You all make fair points and I could see why that would be frustrating. I guess I just personally don't notice it/get bothered by it.

I absolutely value Andrea as part of the rotation, I find her differing opinions refreshing personally.



Like here, I didn't find what she said to be "hating" on Nintendo at all. Referring to Labo, she praised the idea but raises a good point (that has been brought up in posts here as well) about the expensiveness of the product and the likely hood of children breaking it. Those are fair points and I don't think she's hating on the idea at all. In fact I recall her saying how great the idea is for kids. When she brought up the PS4 sales, she wasn't downplaying Switch sales at all only adding additional context to the story. As she even mentioned she wish she had Xbox One data to also add into the mix. Having the complete picture makes for better discussion and is way more informative. I took it as, "hey PS4 is still also selling incredibly well and here's a look at how the console industry is doing as a whole per Business Insider."

I feel like the critiques against Andrea do hold some water, on the other hand some people are like..

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Cap10Deku

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Dec 2, 2017
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Seattle, Wa
I feel like the critiques against Andrea do hold some water, on the other hand some people are like..

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I like Andrea a lot really. She she has strong opinions but really Kinda Funny needs at least one person like her around (imo). More often then not when she argues or challenges the others (mostly Tim I feel, lol), she is basing her own opinions on facts she has. Not saying I don't see where people are coming from with the GOTY epiosde, just didn't really bother me much I guess.

She's by far my favorite KFGD host with Greg as she has actual facts and opinions based on those she brings to the table where as sometimes some of the hosts just brings their personal bias (with no facts). Not that I don't enjoy them as well, just not as much.
 

Barn

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Oct 27, 2017
3,137
Los Angeles
I hate to dogpile, as I enjoy Andrea sometimes, but what's starting to get to me is combination of predictability and thin arguments, in regards to Nintendo-related topics. I understand that folks have different tastes, and her taste very clearly veers toward big-budget western games ("AAA" if you will, though I loathe the term), which is fine. On the other hand, I lean toward Nintendo stuff, so I'll be the first to admit that I'm more inclined to notice. But god damn -- lately it has become a case of "Greg presents Nintendo item, Andrea explains why she doesn't like it using shaky, YouTube-comments-level reasoning." As a listener, you can really see it coming a mile away, and that's tiresome. Her take on Labo was literally every single hot take rolled into one -- it was like the GameSpot forums come to life. Combine that with her weirdly contextualized and not-very-factual jump to Sony's defense when the Switch's sales numbers came up, and it's just not a good look (especially when no defense was needed whatsoever; no one was attempting to shun the PS4 or deny its success).

As a Nintendo fan, I love analyzing and criticizing the company; I'm not looking for a podcast that exists to praise a corporation. But she's starting to come off as a crusader more and more of late, and her reasoning for downplaying everything from Breath of the Wild to Mario Odyssey to Labo is consistently thin, overdone and just not very insightful. I don't want to be the person writing mean things on the internet, but I do have to say that it's starting to make her episodes no so enjoyable to listen to.
 
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Cap10Deku

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Dec 2, 2017
591
Seattle, Wa
I hate to dogpile, as I enjoy Andrea sometimes, but what's starting to get to me is combination of predictability and thin arguments, in regards to Nintendo-related topics. I understand that folks have different tastes, and her taste very clearly veers toward big-budget western games ("AAA" if you will, though I loathe the term), which is fine. On the other hand, I lean toward Nintendo stuff, so I'll be the first to admit that I'm more inclined to notice. But god damn -- lately it has become a case of "Greg presents Nintendo item, Andrea explains why she doesn't like it using shaky, YouTube-comments-level reasoning." As a listener, you can really see it coming a mile away, and that's tiresome. Her take on Labo was literally every single hot take rolled into one -- it was like the GameSpot forums come to life. Combine that with her weirdly contextualized and not-very-factual jump to Sony's defense when the Switch's sales numbers came up, and it's just not a very good look (especially when no defense was needed whatsoever; no one was attempting to shun the PS4 or deny its success).

As a Nintendo fan, I love analyzing and criticizing the company; I'm not looking for a podcast that exists to praise a corporation. But she's starting to come off as a crusader more and more of late, and her reasoning for downplaying everything from Breath of the Wild to Mario Odyssey to Labo is consistently thin, overdone and just not very insightful. I don't want to be the person writing mean things on the internet, but I do have to say that it's starting to make her episodes no so enjoyable to listen to.

Haha it's good to have discussions and I can see how that would be from your point of view.

For me, besides Zelda (which I've played since the N64 days), I've never been a huge Nintendo person, so I have actually liked when challenges the others when it comes to Nintendo games; especially Tim. It helps me, a Nintendo outsider, try and understand what's so amazing about the other Nintendo games. I've watched plenty of times where Tim (and Greg) praise a Nintendo game simply because it's a "Mario" game. My personal observation (which is 100% my own) is that Tim (more so than Greg) seems to judge games by his nostalgia of them. Which is more cemented (in my mind), that when asked what he's played lately, his answers are generally old school games. I can't remember the last time he's raved about anything new (besides Odyssey lol).

On another side of this I also really enjoy the different "dynamic" she brings. Tim is too much like Greg imo that though I still enjoy when they're together, I feel Andrea brings out more actual "debate" from Greg when she's there; something akin to Colin, which is something I look for in Kinda Funny Games Daily.
 

DrMario

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Oct 27, 2017
242
I'm trying to decide if I'm just moving on to a different part of my life (getting older, just had a kid, not gaming as much) or if the content just isn't as engaging anymore. But my interest in KF is basically at an all time low. I've been around since day 1 and an active member in the FB community. But that group has gone down the tube, the content isn't grabbing me, and i think it's about time to withdraw my Patreon. Kinda makes me sad.
 

Maximo

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah I don't like Colin but you don't tweet about someone more than 600 times in a year and not look like an obsessed unstable person.

To be fair it's a number sourced from one person who was paid by Colin, supposedly the person has counted Tweets that Bob has simply replied to people.
 

Mezoly

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Oct 25, 2017
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To be fair it's a number sourced from one person who was paid by Colin, supposedly the person has counted Tweets that Bob has simply replied to people.

Yeah that's fair. However, if you go to his timeline you will find at least 2 tweets a day about Colin. I get that he thinks he is trolling or calling someone out similar to what a lot of people do with say someone like Trump on twitter. But I don't know, it feels weirder/creepier when they were co-worker and met in real life.
 
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H.Cornerstone

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Oct 27, 2017
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To be fair it's a number sourced from one person who was paid by Colin, supposedly the person has counted Tweets that Bob has simply replied to people.

He goes into it in the podcast, apparently Bob got frustrated that no one else would stand up to Colin and just were silenced by him, and he refused to be.

Also, Colin stating that Bob is mentally unstable is really messed up.
 

Noah Om

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Oct 25, 2017
803
I'm trying to decide if I'm just moving on to a different part of my life (getting older, just had a kid, not gaming as much) or if the content just isn't as engaging anymore. But my interest in KF is basically at an all time low. I've been around since day 1 and an active member in the FB community. But that group has gone down the tube, the content isn't grabbing me, and i think it's about time to withdraw my Patreon. Kinda makes me sad.

That's really sad to hear. Maybe you just need a break off the content? :(

Either way I hope you still pop in here and post from time to time!!
 

Nav

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Oct 27, 2017
1,904
Beard and baby is a good look for Greg. Just sayin.

Also, Andre was great on Gamescast. He has a lot going on already, but I would love to see him on more often.
 

Mark Freeman

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Oct 31, 2017
24
Kent, UK
Today is going to be an intresting show what with the microsoft news intrested to hear Tim and Andreas views, i think the next Halo will not be day 1 for games pass, they will want the mega sales figures, and poor sea of thieves going to tank on sales figures if everyone thats saying they are going to cancel pre order and get gamespass