Supernatural Season 13 |OT| Lucky Number 13. And We Gotta Keep Fiction Happy.

Unless I missed something, what gave the indication there was more then one evil doppleganger Kaia? I assumed she was just a random evil incarnation that controlled those monsters around her. She entered our universe/planet with some evil plan while unleashing monsters everywhere setting up the main plot for season one of Wayward Sisters if it gets picked up.

I saw no indication that there was more then one evil Kaia. Did I miss something?

Ratings were 1.82 million for the episode which ois pretty good and is higher then most of the CW lineup.

I will be surprised if the CW doesn't green light this when they gave a pilot commitment to a spinoff of The Originals (which is getting low ratings).

I feel Wayward Sisters has a decent amount of potential.

Where is Fiction and the rest of my Supernatural fanboys and fangirls?

It had some really cheesy moments, but I liked it and hope it gets picked up.

And it'll really suck if regular Kaia doesn't come back somehow.

I was sad when Kaia died and then I wasn't anymore.

I so forgot how much I fucking love Donna. She better be a fixture of the show, wheee

Fiction said:

I was sad when Kaia died and then I wasn't anymore.

I so forgot how much I fucking love Donna. She better be a fixture of the show, wheee

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Yup her and Sheriff Mills are my favorite characters. I like Donna's unwavering optimism her character always seems to have.

Kschreck said:

Yup her and Sheriff Mills are my favorite characters. I like Donna's unwavering optimism her character always seems to have.

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Yup.

Man, I still love this damn show. Season 11 was great but I feel like 12 and 13 have freshened things up with a larger focus on the recurring cast.

Super excited about the spin-off. I hope we get a quick announcement for that The CW is picking it up.

Also, I know the CG wasn't good but having Sam and Dean look up at a literal fucking giant was amazing. Never thought I'd see that happen back in 2005.

Yeah, that was a lot better than I was expecting. I hadn't posted anything about Wayward Sisters in the last several months because, honestly, I wasn't the least bit interested in it, but I did enjoy this episode.

I don't like the apparent big bad reveal, though. It was obvious that it was alt-someone.

Backdoor pilot was nice, always liked Jody and Donna.
But man how I wish Jo my favourite hunter girl could have been part of this, still can't forgive the showrunners for killing her off.

Wayward Sisters was da bomb. Loved it. I half-expected the mysterious cloaked figure to be Rowena though. Also ClairexKaia is new OTP.

Besides the King Kong wannabe scene(still lmao),this was awesome....finally something different with the other world or whatever,good new character(psychic girl) and all,great opening song(well this is nothing new but...)and the ending actually caught me by surprise...I also always liked Claire and Donna and it looks like we will see more of them...cant wait for the rest.

I'm surprised the scoobies are no part of this. If they aren't gonna be men of letters then they can at least be on the wayward squad. Honestly that' what the wayward sisters should be. Mills taking in various lost souls and helping them while using their skills to fight monsters. While Donna shows up once in a while to blast the hell out of things

Solid episode, solid backdoor pilot. The Dean scene with the food was funniest bit. I like Jodie, Claire and Donna, not really feeling the other girls but maybe they'll grown on me.

Persephone said:

Wayward Sisters was da bomb. Loved it. I half-expected the mysterious cloaked figure to be Rowena though. Also ClairexKaia is new OTP.

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At least I wasn't the only the one. I was shipping it so hard.

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I don't like the apparent big bad reveal, though. It was obvious that it was alt-someone.

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Eh, it was done well in that they showed up and were also revealed in the pilot episode.

If they pulled some bs of drawing it out this season or into the spinoff that reveal would have been awful.(like a Flash tier reveal)

Sad that they managed to get out of the alternate dimension to ours so quickly ... I really expected the scooby episode to be another dimenson Sliders style

Platy said:

Sad that they managed to get out of the alternate dimension to ours so quickly ... I really expected the scooby episode to be another dimenson Sliders style

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Don't worry too much, Jack is still in apocalypse land with Mary.

One thing I dislike, is Claire not mentioning Cas. This is the second episode she's done that. Are they trying to distance her from him? She was literally a vessel for him so it's gunna be hard beyond 'he possessed and killed my dad'

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Hopefully they visit a universe where John Winchester is Batman.

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Well he already did bash his wifes boyfriends skull with a bat.

Poetry and all that.

Platy said:

Sad that they managed to get out of the alternate dimension to ours so quickly ... I really expected the scooby episode to be another dimenson Sliders style

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It seems like opening portals to our world is something other entities can do now, though, so maybe they come here. That, or they visit Scooby's works while looking for Jack and Mom.

Fiction said:

One thing I dislike, is Claire not mentioning Cas. This is the second episode she's done that. Are they trying to distance her from him? She was literally a vessel for him so it's gunna be hard beyond 'he possessed and killed my dad'

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Yeah, I think they want to distance the new show from any baggage like that. Like how the other girl just was confirming that Jodie is her mom, when she really isn't.

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It seems like opening portals to our world is something other entities can do now, though, so maybe they come here. That, or they visit Scooby's works while looking for Jack and Mom.


Yeah, I think they want to distance the new show from any baggage like that. Like how the other girl just was confirming that Jodie is her mom, when she really isn't.

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Well Jodie is everyone's mom, even Sam and Dean, so that's Canon :p

Erasing Claries history with Cas is bullshit though, especially since they established that angels leave behind grace in vessels. So Claire has angel grace to boost her skillset. It would a long way to explaining why a small girl can take down wolves with ease after all :p

Also just realized that Dean has never had an angel in him.

Also, not like that.

Okay, I feel better now that I know I'm not the only one on the Claire/Kaia ship.

I think they'll be better off leaving the angel and demon stuff alone, at least for now. That team is not really ready to take on that level of threat yet (and I hope they never need to).

You know what'd be nice to see? A Leviathan. Won't happen, but it'd be nice.

Fiction said:

Well Jodie is everyone's mom, even Sam and Dean, so that's Canon :p

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Well I guess Dean banged his mom then.

Holy shit, I have missed a lot of episodes this season. Forgot it was on.

I watched the first episode of the season.

Rackham said:

Well I guess Dean banged his mom then.

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Wait what? Dean never banged Jodie lol

ZeoVGM said:

Okay, I feel better now that I know I'm not the only one on the Claire/Kaia ship.

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Double post, but even my kids were on that ship. My ten year old daughter bawled when Kaia died because and I quote "Their love is so pure!"

Good to see everyone so positive about WS. The fandom was bubbling thursday night, it was a cool thing to be a part of. Social media ratings were great, reception was good. Hope it gets greenlit.

Also, yep, Claia is life.

Fiction said:

Wait what? Dean never banged Jodie lol

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It's been like 20 seasons. I don't know why I remember something like this happening.

Fiction said:

Double post, but even my kids were on that ship. My ten year old daughter bawled when Kaia died because and I quote "Their love is so pure!"

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This legitimately makes me almost tear up. That's some "Hey, there is some hope in this world" stuff right there.

Felt like a good Supernatural episode, exactly what the spin-off needs to be.

Joni said:

Felt like a good Supernatural episode, exactly what the spin-off needs to be.

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There's going to be a spin off?

Strafer said:

There's going to be a spin off?

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Well, it isn't officially picked up yet, but Wayward Sisters seems to have a good chance.

Strafer said:

There's going to be a spin off?

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The writers finally listened to the more sane fans and area doing a Jodie, Donna, and all their Wayward daughters spinoff. (Clare and Alex, plus more they've added this season) Though for some inexplicable reason they went with Wayward Sisters instead of Wayward Daughters.

Fiction said:

The writers finally listened to the more sane fans and area doing a Jodie, Donna, and all their Wayward daughters spinoff. (Clare and Alex, plus more they've added this season) Though for some inexplicable reason they went with Wayward Sisters instead of Wayward Daughters.

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Ha, I was just wondering about this myself. If I were to take a stab at a reason they'd choose this name, it would be because "sisters" is less patronizing than "daughters"? Like, if the show is gonna be about all these women kicking ass together, the baggage of being "daughters" is unnecessary.

Jodie's existence kinda maybe throws that theory out the window, though, so I dunno, haha.

Twig said:

Ha, I was just wondering about this myself. If I were to take a stab at a reason they'd choose this name, it would be because "sisters" is less patronizing than "daughters"? Like, if the show is gonna be about all these women kicking ass together, the baggage of being "daughters" is unnecessary.

Jodie's existence kinda maybe throws that theory out the window, though, so I dunno, haha.

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It's just weird to me that the name fans used came from Carry On My Wayward Son. Of course daughter fits better with Jodies crew, but they picked sister.

Yeah I know the song, of course. :P I didn't know fans came up with the name. That's even weirder.

Carry on my way daughter
There'll be peace when things are straughter

No options for sister, though.

If that's supposed to be an attempt at a spin-off then I don't care much for it. It seems like the same old thing only with women. I know that formula has lasted for a long time but it seems a bit stale at this point, it's one of the reasons why I loved the introduction of the men of letters (which they eventually dropped).

Wayward Sisters to have Jody-Donna described as well.

I'm personally not a fan of Claire's "I'm a serious badass" attitude. I find it very outputting.

Jodie and Donna are all I need, though.

Twig said:

I'm personally not a fan of Claire's "I'm a serious badass" attitude. I find it very outputting.

Jodie and Donna are all I need, though.

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Hopefully the realization that her attitude caused her failure will temper that.

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Hopefully the realization that her attitude caused her failure will temper that.

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Maybe. That's the arc Sam and/or Dean go through every other episode, so I don't think it's unlikely that she'd see some growth. But I dunno if I care that much for her in the first place even without that. She... lacks the charm that Dean has.

Then again Angel made me like Cordelia, so anything's possible!

The only character I just am not feeling at all is Kaia. Like, when she died, I felt nothing, and when the hooded monster turned out to be her, I was like okay.

Fiction said:

I was sad when Kaia died and then I wasn't anymore.

I so forgot how much I fucking love Donna. She better be a fixture of the show, wheee

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Donna is so goddamn amazing. Rolls up with a truck full of arms all casual like. Not a single fuck given.

ZeoVGM said:

Man, I still love this damn show. Season 11 was great but I feel like 12 and 13 have freshened things up with a larger focus on the recurring cast.

Super excited about the spin-off. I hope we get a quick announcement for that The CW is picking it up.

Also, I know the CG wasn't good but having Sam and Dean look up at a literal fucking giant was amazing. Never thought I'd see that happen back in 2005.

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That made me laugh they just look up and were like "Welp...fuck!"

RellikSK said:

Solid episode, solid backdoor pilot. The Dean scene with the food was funniest bit. I like Jodie, Claire and Donna, not really feeling the other girls but maybe they'll grown on me.

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omg yeah "Don't say it tastes like chicken" "No...it's a chameleon, it tastes like chameleon!" When they heard the footsteps and got up to run away and Dean ran back, I thought he was gonna put the fire out, nope grabs the head instead looool.

Fiction said:

At least I wasn't the only the one. I was shipping it so hard.

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Yeaaaaa that's a ship I felt. I was like damn there's definitely chemistry there.

Septimus Prime said:

You know what'd be nice to see? A Leviathan. Won't happen, but it'd be nice.

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Me too! Like you'd think we'd see some mention of them somewhere. The lore is that they just become disorganized, not just fall off the face of a planet...

I enjoy how they've taken characters from different episodes across different seasons, but somehow rebuilt Sam/Dean/Bobby.