It's mostly seeing that in his Freshman year, and then never seeing that type of route or throw to him for years.
Or maybe We did, and it was never enough
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CFB '17 Offseason |OT| Urban Meyer is pretty much just the worst.
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It's mostly seeing that in his Freshman year, and then never seeing that type of route or throw to him for years.
Or maybe We did, and it was never enough
Combo of Kiffin not using him much in '14 and '15, and that + Jalen's struggles in '16.
Though I guess we used him more than we thought. So weird. Felt like the nigga didn't exist half the time. We joked in '15 about hiding him so Clemson wouldn't think to cover him in the title game lmfao even Kiffin said something like that in the post game presser. "We hadn't used him much, so his legs were fresh."
I don't so much have a problem with how NCAA football players are treated (not paid past scholarship, limits on transferring, can't sell autographs, etc.) as I do with them not having a legitimate professional alternative. They're treated like amateur athletes, but a large number of them aren't amateurs, they're "amateurs," but they don't really have any other options.
Baseball and hockey players can go pro domestically at 18. Basketball players can go pro in foreign leagues at 18 and be back for the NBA a year later. Players of the other sports (Soccer, etc.) can go pro at 18 in foreign leagues since the money isn't really there so much domestically.
Football players are pretty much trapped in the American college scene for three years. Vrabel is right, and Rosen was right. There's not much incentive for the NFL to set up their own minor league when the NCAA will do it for them.
Soccer stuff is usually done via club academies if the players are any good. The college scene feeds some of the MLS through the Superdraft. But yeah, if they're a good player, they're probably getting picked up by a foreign team before the age of 18.
I agree, no reason to set up a minor league when this is a free way of developing players. I think the main difference between soccer and football at least in this case is that there are other options. Baseball is probably the same way as soccer. Most talented 18 year olds are going to a minor league team for development rather than through college.
Is he the same PAC12 guy that didn't realize he had signed a regional cable deal when Colin Cowherd asked him?
Vrabel what the fuck you doing man....go take people from Michigan or Bama or something.
Oh waaaaah.
Alabama lost half the staff, and most stayed in College Football, meaning direct competition in recruiting (and games potentially) rather than an entirely different level. Urban always finds a way to get ahead by losing. Whether it's heart function, losing his top 2 or 3 Quaterbacks, and now not having to compete against his old assistants. Urban is truly the worst.
I guess. Anyway if Vrabel wasn't an Ohio State Alum then I probably wouldn't care, but he is so it pisses me off.
tOSU will be fine. If your coaches are any good, they're getting poached for better offers after a successful season. And NFL assistant coach is definitely a better offer.
First interview with Hugh Freeze since everything went down is out now.
First interview with Hugh Freeze since everything went down is out now.
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No longer being investigated and charges aren't being filed by the victim.
Yeah that's what i meant. Bad accusation versus likely true accusation.
It was way back when the PAC12 network got started, everyone was signing deals with ESPN like BIG12/Longhorn/SEC etc and Pac 12 was like, we signed with FSN! Cowherd, was still on ESPN radio at the time, lord knows it was the only sports radio on when I was an on the road sales rep, so I listened. He totally raked the dude because the guy didn't realize that FSN at that time was totally a regional network system a lot like NESN or the Comcast sports networks or even shit like Jeff Pilot. So no one on the east coast was going to see PAC 12 games.
I know they eventually got out of that deal, but shit that whole thing has been poorly managed from the word go.
Ah, I see. Yeah, no idea, but given the way he's handled stuff it wouldn't surprise me.
I give him 2 years and he's gone. I'm shocked Lovie is still at Illinois to be honest.
And to be fair, like we discussed all season, PAC12 teams got jobbed by ESPN/ABC/FOX too. Like it was so dumb to force these west coast teams to play 7:30 local kickoffs and not have any east coast viewers. I'd have watched a lot more PAC football for better or worse if the games were earlier.
Yeah, that definitely needs to be addressed. Part of the problem with the P12 Network is that all the best games get claimed by ESPN and Fox, making the Network less appealing to DirecTV etc.
So not only do the networks need to handle the games they get better, they also need to keep the networks from getting some quality games going forward if they want the P12N to succeed.
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The Draft heads are going in on Josh Allen. Just tearing him apart.
And all it took to find this new appreciation was a horrible scandal!
And all it took to find this new appreciation was a horrible scandal!
You know.. on paper, Arizona State appears on paper that they should be a respectable team in CFB with decent advantages over all.
Then you see things like this and then remember why they aren't..
Is this another way of saying I won't mix up my burner phone with my official work phone again?
Ah yes, the annual bitching from NFL scouts about players from spread offenses being ill prepared for NFL schemes. (maybe they should pay for a developmental league)
How many great NFL players came from spread offenses?
Serious question. I'm sure it's quite a lot.
No clue. It's an adjustment and requires some investment by the teams drafting them, but unless they want to set up their own academies, they need to stop bitching and get over it.
Teams that do run "pro" schemes would have some sort of an advantage in recruiting, one would think. But I don't know that highschool kids are looking this far ahead, most of the time.
HSers might not be thinking about scheme, but you better bet that their recruiters are pointing out that they put guys in the league, e.g. Clemson as WR U, LSU as DBU.
Now the place where pro-style offenses might make a big difference in recruiting is O-linemen, where a handful of schools have become go-to places for NFL linemen (Wisconsin, Iowa, Stanford, Notre Dame, Alabama, Ohio State.)
AHA, I've defeated you in Internet:
Can't coach QB's if you've never been there during a season.
You know I'm not going to let facts get in the way of a good burn!
They have an insane man who does sleep overs with minors and hangs out in trees leading them.
Two fresh hires who didn't even unpack their suitcase before leaving is... interesting.
The new car smell when you thought you bought a fancy German car and realize it was actually a domestic.
Naw man, even a new GMC is okay. This is more like ordering a Merc and getting Peugot.
Or a asking for the Ferrari and getting the Fiat.
Maybe Michigan just isn't that hot of job afterall...
Josh Allen hype post.
Seriously, why anyone is hyping him up blows me away. At best, he's a project. Maybe with the crazy physical tools he has you can develop him into an accurate QB. But you're not drafting QBs in the first round as a project.
Seriously, why anyone is hyping him up blows me away. At best, he's a project. Maybe with the crazy physical tools he has you can develop him into an accurate QB. But you're not drafting QBs in the first round as a project.
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