Fatal Frame 4 is better than 5 than is better than 3 that is still better than many mainstream horror gamesFatal Frame I & II were fantastic games but I feel the series went downhill after that.
The last game in-particular was kinda lame and weirdly fragmented for me.
....but I'd still like another one.
Or it comes out in Switch or in 3DS or in mobile.
There are no more options
Maiden of the Black Water is good but not as good, that's the problem, Fatal Frame is a fantastic saga that topped really hard on 2 and experimented a lot since then, I liked it but I still prefer early sequels
Yeah she was the one thing in FF5 that legit scared me. The times she popped up I got instant goosebumps.Yes we do. One of the creepiest experiences out there.
That tall lady freaked me out so much.
Fatal Frame only exists since 4 because Nintendo fund, publish and in some cases develop the franchise.
Maiden of the Black Water is good but not as good, that's the problem, Fatal Frame is a fantastic saga that topped really hard on 2 and experimented a lot since then, I liked it but I still prefer early sequels
Fatal Frame V and that 3DS spin-off book game weren't that long ago so I don't think the series is dead or anything. Despite FFV not being the best in the franchise, it's still a pretty solid game from what I've played and I've been wondering if they might port it to Switch.
To be frank, while I'm not complaining I do legitimately wonder what's keeping this franchise alive. Fatal Frame/Project Zero is bizarre in that the series has never really done well. No Fatal Frame game has sold over 70,000 copies in Japan, and I don't think any of the games have hit 1 million sales worldwide. Despite this, the franchise is nearly 20 years old and has had 6 unique entries, one full on remake (FF2 on Wii), two enhanced ports, and a surprisingly good J-Horror film. And the franchise has done some bizarre things like the fourth entry being Japanese only, the Wii version of Project Zero 2 going to Europe but not US, the fifth entry was digital only on WiiU, etc. The games must be super inexpensive to make or the series creator Makoto Shibata has some real blackmail material somewhere. Speaking of how weird this franchise is, Makoto Shibata has stayed the director the entire series which is highly unusual.
I keep on suspecting/worrying this series is going to die at some point, but it just keeps on going. Not that I'm complaining. I'm a bit worried about fatigue of the creators though and some... Questionable things. I know for Fatal Frame V they were thinking of going in some RADICALLY different directions, like one concept was for a sci-fi horror game with a different weapon type than a camera or something, and the series has had what I'll call "Fan Service Creep", it's notable that each entry in the franchise about has had more fanservice than the last.
The format of the series also notablly changed between Fatal Frame 1/2 and then onward. Fatal Frame 3 is my favorite entry in the franchise and I quite liked FFIV, so I'm not specifically complaining, but the series started really changing how they work at that point. Fatal Frame 1 is like a 5-8 hour game with some back-tracking, and Fatal Frame 2 stands out as the game with the least back-tracking and most varied locations. Starting with FF3 onward there became a stronger focus on this sort of extended chapter system. Fatal Frame 1 sort of had this with the "Nights" in the game, but they started going for longer games where you kind of stay in the same area for an extended period of time with changes over the course of the game. Fatal Frame 3 onward are all pretty long games for the horror genre (15+ hours each essentially), but with some definite padding out.
Despite me mentioning them going in radical different directions as a sort of negative earlier, I do think it might be a good idea for them to sit down and think how to move the franchise over. There's a sort of pro/con that the franchise is maybe the only still on-going horror franchise that still is incredibly old-school, but not all in the ways I think people enjoy. Things have changed some, like the camera for instance, but playing Fatal Frame V it's almost more surprising how much the series has stayed the same (only a bit less surprising than it's still going with those sales numbers and such).
I definitely hope FFV wasn't the last entry, frankly I want more and would love a Switch entry, and I hope America brings it over too. I do have major questions and concerns about the franchise and it going forward, and frankly when I sit down and think I don't strictly know what direction I think they'll even go with if they are working on it. But I'm definitely interested, and think the series STILL has a lot of untapped potential in just a lot of its core concepts.
Nintendo fund them.I honestly believe that Fatal Frame 2 sold really well due to The Ring and Grudge craze at the time, and I don't know how they managed to make three more games after the flop that was 4.
Obviously a ghost? I don't understand, I think the screenshot is from the fourth game he was Yono Ihato, from the D'ittoem, maybe I'm wrong
we have so many same tastesEchoing a bit here, while I love Fatal Frame 2 I think the series didn't "go downhill" there. Fatal Frame 3 is my personal favorite entry in the franchise, I think while it's got some padding it managed to work with some great "Home slowly becoming haunted" horror with its sort of hubworld, the three different characters and their unique gameplay hooks were fun, the remixed versions of FF1 and FF2 locations in FF3 were fun and had a fun story explanation, and I think Fatal Frame 3 has both the best story in the franchise and manages to be the scariest entry by a pretty large margin.
Fatal Frame 4 has some issues, but it has some great art direction, the story is pretty unique (probably helped it was partially written and partially conceived by Suda51) and played with some interesting and different ideas for the franchise. I think FF4 could've been better if they padded it out less, but it really has some amazing scenes sprinkled throughout.
I think a lot of people haven't played FF3 though, which is a shame. I see so many people mention FF1/FF2 were incredible, and then jump to FF5 or something. One day FF3 will be appreciated, one day...
Echoing a bit here, while I love Fatal Frame 2 I think the series didn't "go downhill" there. Fatal Frame 3 is my personal favorite entry in the franchise, I think while it's got some padding it managed to work with some great "Home slowly becoming haunted" horror with its sort of hubworld, the three different characters and their unique gameplay hooks were fun, the remixed versions of FF1 and FF2 locations in FF3 were fun and had a fun story explanation, and I think Fatal Frame 3 has both the best story in the franchise and manages to be the scariest entry by a pretty large margin.
After the way Nintendo of America bungled the distribution of Maiden of Black Water, I'm fine with the series resting for awhile. Fatal Frame deserves better.
Assuming it got a competent release here, I'd love to see a new entry and I think the Switch has a lot to offer for an engaging experience.
Fatal Frame 4 was not released outside of Japan.I think the whole franchise is in the west between WiiU, 3DS, ps2 and PS3
Nah, FF2 is the best game, FF3 gimmick was good and well implemented that's itWhere do I sign this?
While FF2 is definitely the most praised entry, but FF3 is where the series truly peaked. The scariest game of the series by far and the unnerving atmosphere built around your apartment throughout the game is nothing short of masterful and comparable with movie classics from the J-horror genre. It also tells the best story and includes possibly the greatest jumpscare I have ever experienced in a videogame, one that really made me jump in my seat, which never happens to me otherwise.
I'm sorry. Is that a real screenshot of the game? I though it looked odd and out of place like it's photo-shopped in.
It would be nice if we got 4 remade on Switch. I never got around to importing it, and it's the only one I haven't played.
It is photoshopped. What the ghost is I don't know either.
do you people even internet?
That's a bit obvious when they only appear on Nintendo consoles. I bet there's a ton of pent-up demand for FF on PS4 and Xbox.
I had to go look that up, that was news to me. That's really disappointing.
As others said, Nintendo owns Spirit Camera, but only co-owns the games that were exclusive on their platforms (4/5).Nintendo is entirely owner of Spirit Camera and co-owner of the whole ip
Probably as much demand as a new Siren, aka not much at all. Japanese old school horror games sadly never sold much.That's a bit obvious when they only appear on Nintendo consoles. I bet there's a ton of pent-up demand for FF on PS4 and Xbox.
It's a meme (that has been ran into the ground) photoshopped in yeah.I'm sorry. Is that a real screenshot of the game? I though it looked odd and out of place like it's photo-shopped in.