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Waddle Dee · Jan 25, 2018

Subconian Dreamer said:
It's time for Sega AM2 to come out of hiding and finally give us that much-awaited fighting game sequel: Sonic the Fighters 2

I'd rather see Arc System Works take a stab, personally. I think they'd be a much better fit for a modern Sonic fighting game. They excel at colorful, stylized visuals and fast-paced fighting games. I would just hope Sega would keep them in check when it comes to DLC prices and practices because they're among the worst as far as fighting game developers.

Waddle Dee · Jan 25, 2018

Nocturnowl said:
Hitting me with the semi nostalgia with that Zero Gravity menu music.
I played more of that game than I should've.

Same.

I can say that about pretty much every 3D Sonic game that isn't Black Knight, Chronicles, or Free Riders.

BlackJace · Jan 25, 2018

Rlan said:

Damn Tails is really out here domin

Professor Beef · Jan 25, 2018

anytime I see tails with a gun i think of

Joltik · Jan 25, 2018

Rlan said:

Is this real or an amazing edit?

Nali · Jan 25, 2018

Joltik said:
Is this real or an amazing edit?

Rlan runs a Sonic blog that is in part about giffing little oddities from the games.

Supaidaman · Jan 26, 2018

AM2 still does some arcade games for SEGA though they're very different from the ones of the old times. Games like Soul Reverse and Kancolle Arcade for instance. Current AM1 does a lot of arcade games too nowadays.

But I really want a Fighters 2. And a competent RPG :(

Tizoc · Jan 27, 2018

Man I'd gladly rebuy M2's Arcade ports they put up on PSN if they were re-released on PS4 and Steam at least.

AniHawk said:
they are not very good at making video games.

But I need more
more words, true critique, the kind of writing that restore the spirit to those seeking the path.

...case in point, I just did a Stealth section where there some 1 hit kill zombies in The Last of us. This was my reaction towards the game after my NPC done fucked up

Leonardo-DiCaprio-Goes-From-Calm-To-Angry-Smashing-a-Mug-On-a-Guys-Head-In-The-Departed.gif

Deleted member 2474 · Jan 27, 2018

i put my entire blind run of sonic mania on youtube and sometimes i like to watch and remember the part of stardust speedway act 2 where i just paused the game and cried irl for 40 seconds because it's beautiful

i wish i could've actually recorded commentary haha

Waddle Dee · Jan 29, 2018

detuned radios said:
i put my entire blind run of sonic mania on youtube and sometimes i like to watch and remember the part of stardust speedway act 2 where i just paused the game and cried irl for 40 seconds because it's beautiful

i wish i could've actually recorded commentary haha

I have my first playthrough saved as a bunch of clips on my PS4. Should probably extract the mat some point.

Deleted member 34949 · Jan 29, 2018

I vividly remember playing Sonic Mania for the first time, getting to Press Garden Act 2, putting my Switch down on the table and just walking away for a bit because I couldn't process that I was actually playing the Sonic game of my dreams.

Oh and getting stuck on the Oil Ocean boss, but who didn't?

Shadow Hog · Jan 29, 2018

For some reason, the only thing I really bothered to clip from my first playthrough was every time I went in to Blue Sphere (which was every time it was available to me).

No, I dunno why I clipped those either. (But I do know why I kept going in - I quite like me some Blue Sphere, y'know.)

Deleted member 2474 · Jan 29, 2018

I also just noticed that at the very start of the Metal Sonic fight I seem to randomly start flying with Tails because my instinct was to hit up+A to charge a super peelout lmao

My laughter when Game Gear Silver Sonic popped out was also something I wish I could've recorded

Nali · Jan 29, 2018

Seven Force said:
Oh and getting stuck on the Oil Ocean boss, but who didn't?

*waves hand*

Professor Beef · Jan 29, 2018

Sciz said:
*waves hand*

same here

Waddle Dee · Jan 29, 2018

Sciz said:
*waves hand*

Professor Beef said:
same here

*Also raises hand*

The only part that stumped me for a couple minutes was the Metal Sonic fight since I didn't understand how to hurt him when little cutie Game Gear Silver Sonic showed up.

Deleted member 22713 · Jan 29, 2018

Sciz said:
*waves hand*

Professor Beef said:
same here

Waddle Dee said:
*Also raises hand*

Same.

Kind of cheated by constantly siccing Tails on it with Up+A.

Honestly Metallic Madness Act 1 boss gave me more problems - getting instakilled by being crushed in Sonic games has always kind of terrified me as a kid; you just walk a bit and then *BOOBOOM* Sonics terrifying bassy death scream and his shocked face with his wide dead eyes; and that's why Marble Garden can suck it.

Mandos · Jan 29, 2018

Heh, Nacks my favorite forgotten sonic character, hope he survives the transition to the new comic too. Say you guys hear about the board/miniatures game announcement?

Deleted member 34949 · Jan 29, 2018

Sciz said:
*waves hand*

Professor Beef said:
same here

Waddle Dee said:
*Also raises hand*

The only part that stumped me for a couple minutes was the Metal Sonic fight since I didn't understand how to hurt him when little cutie Game Gear Silver Sonic showed up.

PenSeph said:
Same.

Kind of cheated by constantly siccing Tails on it with Up+A.

:|

I knew exactly what to do with the Metal Sonic fight, oddly enough. Probably because Sonic 2 8-bit was my first Sonic game, and young Seven Force spent many a day using the level select code to fight Silver Sonic in Scrambled Egg Zone.

Subconian Dreamer · Jan 29, 2018

I got through the Oil Ocean boss fine the first time, but have actually had a bit of trouble on it on every subsequent replay lol

Deleted member 2474 · Jan 29, 2018

As long as you make it to the OOZ boss with a fire shield it's baby mode

winstein · Jan 30, 2018

Rlan said:

When I watched this game being played, I somehow feel bad for Knuckles being beaten up. I guess being the first opponent in the campaign meant that he's naturally the easiest of them all, so it's usually him being beaten up handily.

Thank you for reading.

Waddle Dee · Jan 30, 2018

winstein said:
When I watched this game being played, I somehow feel bad for Knuckles being beaten up. I guess being the first opponent in the campaign meant that he's naturally the easiest of them all, so it's usually him being beaten up handily.

Thank you for reading.

Apparently, the reason Sonic the Fighters (originally named Sonic Championship in the US) had such a small amount of cabinets in the West was due to Sega of America fearing backlash about a game where Sonic characters kicked the shit out of one another.

I remember reading this on Sonic Retro over a decade ago. Don't know how true it is but I think it's believable since that's the main reason Nintendo was hesitant about bringing Smash Bros over to the West.

Tizoc · Jan 30, 2018

I first saw sonic the fighters in an arcade in dubai i think when i was a kid
The game's existenc blew my mind :3
I think it was in dubai where i also player a street fighter zero 2 arcade cabinet and lost playing with a white pallete Vega/Dictator

Supaidaman · Jan 30, 2018

Sonic "Championship" is the only game I've ever cleared on an actual Arcade machine. There was one pretty near where I lived back in the day.

Waddle Dee · Jan 30, 2018

Supaidaman said:
Sonic "Championship" is the only game I've ever cleared on an actual Arcade machine. There was one pretty near where I lived back in the day.

As far as fighting games are concerned, Sonic Fighters is pretty easy for the most part. Metal Sonic is the only fight that reads you inputs to any meaningful extent. No bullshit like Mortal Kombat 2 or Street Fighter 3.

Supaidaman · Jan 30, 2018

Yeah, only Metal Sonic kicked my ass, the rest of the game is pretty simple.

Waddle Dee · Jan 30, 2018

What's the absolute best Act in Mania and convince me why it isn't Studiopolis Act 2.

VKO-GFX · Jan 30, 2018

Hard to say what's the best act in Mania. They're all OK to me except Titanic Monarch. I do need to replay the game more though.

Virtua King · Jan 31, 2018

It's Studiopolis Act 2. Second best would be Press Garden Act 2.

Deleted member 8001 · Jan 31, 2018

This section of the song is beyond godlike.

Zan · Jan 31, 2018

Sciz said:
Rlan runs a Sonic blog that is in part about giffing little oddities from the games.

Love that blog. Gooood shit.

So the Sonic movie is still scheduled for this year, or is it next? Just thought about it today.

A Syrian Communist · Jan 31, 2018

Zan said:
Love that blog. Gooood shit.

So the Sonic movie is still scheduled for this year, or is it next? Just thought about it today.

I think it was supposed to be this year but who really knows

Waddle Dee · Jan 31, 2018

Sami said:
I think it was supposed to be this year but who really knows

The chance for a timely Sonic movie is so fucking long gone. I don't know how anyone at Sega thought this would be a good idea. Sonic isn't the A-list mascot he once was. I feel like the last chance Sega had to get someone to make a Sonic movie and not have it feel out of place was back during the Dreamcast's first couple years.

Professor Beef · Jan 31, 2018

Sami said:
I think it was supposed to be this year but who really knows

who really cares, either

hoping it gets cancelled

Dooble · Jan 31, 2018

They really shot themselves in the foot with Forces. Especally with all trashtalking by the Twiitter account.

Deleted member 34949 · Jan 31, 2018

Waddle Dee said:
What's the absolute best Act in Mania and convince me why it isn't Studiopolis Act 2.

Because the answer is actually Press Garden Act 2.

Waddle Dee · Jan 31, 2018

Dooble said:
They really shot themselves in the foot with Forces. Especally with all trashtalking by the Twiitter account.

Yeah, this is what I always feared about the way Aaron handles the Twitter account. His tweets are funny and sometimes even charming, but it feels off whenever an actual weak title releases.

Seven Force said:
Because the answer is actually Press Garden Act 2.

You're not very good at convincing people, are you? ;)

Deleted member 34949 · Jan 31, 2018

Waddle Dee said:
You're not very good at convincing people, are you? ;)

Wasn't trying very hard to, lol

Seriously though, it's an aesthetic triumph for the series, it has a gimmick (The ice blocks) that not only lasts just long enough to not get old, but can be circumvented entirely through the use of the Fire Shield (highlighting one of Mania's best attributes in general; the intelligent way the different elemental shields interact with certain hazards and gimmicks throughout the game) enemy placement that manages to add a bit of urgency (speaking mostly of the Carry enemies) without seeming cheap, and some of the neatest displays of various paths intertwining with each other this side of Aquatic Ruin.

Studiopolis (both acts) is right behind it, though I think I prefer Act 1 to 2. Act 2 is far and away the best pinball themed stage in the series, though.

Deleted member 2474 · Jan 31, 2018

Studiopolis 2 has too many gimmicks that take control away, especially the little funnels, that I find a bit annoying. Music and aesthetic is flawless, though.

A Syrian Communist · Jan 31, 2018

Professor Beef said:
who really cares, either

hoping it gets cancelled

Same just make a good video game damn

Nali · Jan 31, 2018

Mania as a whole feels a little heavy on scripted warps and long high speed sections. Chemical Plant and Studiopolis being paired off doesn't help, and the same goes for Stardust and Hydrocity.

allenpergallon · Jan 31, 2018

Kokonoe said:
This section of the song is beyond godlike.

I like to stand by the idea that Flame Core attempts to emulate Lava Reef in a certain way, the biggest being that transition from a loud, melodic and pronounced BGM in the first half to some of the franchise's chillest music in their second halves. The aesthetics of both levels also kind of "cool down" with the music, though it's a bit less pronounced with Flame Core outside of the dark rooms. If that was actually an intention when designing Flame Core then 06 gets mad points from me.

Mandos · Feb 1, 2018

Well look whos getting his own miniatures game, page went up for the sonic battle racers product page, and they're going full hog with this. Base game, 3 box expansions, and 12 character packs. Also no sign of super sonic which totally means he's a kickstarter bonus
https://www.shinobi7.com/sonic-the-hedgehog-battle-racers.html

Ready, Set… SONIC!
Burst into action with Sonic the Hedgehog: Battle Racers! Select your racer, choose your route, and fight your way to the finish while avoiding opposing racers and a variety of dangerous obstacles. Control your speed, use your abilities, and activate your special powers to collect as many rings as you can in an amazing race.

Based on Sonic the Hedgehog, the world-wide phenomenon, Sonic the Hedgehog: Battle Racers allows you to take on the role of Sonic or one of his many friends and rivals in a strategic race through a variety of exciting locations. The course changes with every race, so no two games are alike!

Add Boss/Track and Single Racer Expansions to increase your Battle Racers collection. See below!

AGES:
9+

NUMBER OF PLAYERS:
2 – 5 Players
BASE GAME CONTENTS:
- 64 Race Cards
- 50 Ring Tokens
- 40 Badnik Tokens
- 16 Track Sections
- 16 Dr. Eggman Boss Cards
- 15 Rock Tokens
- 5 Miniatures
- 5 Racer Profiles
- 5 Speed Tokens
- 4 Badnik Reference Cards
- 1 Dr. Eggman Boss Profile
- 1 Track Reference Card
- 1 Rulebook

BOSS/TRACK EXPANSIONS
Add to your Sonic the Hedgehog: Battle Racers collection with these individual Boss/Track expansions. Each expansion introduces unique challenges with a new Boss and Track to play on. Bosses can also be used as additional racers.

CHOOSE FROM:
- Infinite (Metropolis Track Expansion)
- Metal Sonic (Mechanical Madness Track Expansion)
- Shadow (Oil Ocean Track Expansion)

EACH BOSS/TRACK EXPANSION CONTAINS:
- 16 Boss Cards
- 6 Tracks
- 5 Virtual Reality Tokens (Infinite/Metropolis Track Expansion ONLY)
- 1 Miniature
- 1 Boss Profile
- 1 Character Profile
- 1 Speed Token

Metropolis Track Expansion (with Infinite)

Mechanical Madness Track Expansion (with Metal Sonic)

Oil Ocean Track Expansion (with Shadow)

RACER EXPANSIONS
Add to your Sonic the Hedgehog: Battle Racers collection with these individual Racer expansions. Every racer brings unique abilities and powers of their own to the game. Collect them all for the ultimate Sonic collection.
CHOOSE FROM:
- Big
- Blaze
- Charmy
- Cream
- E-123 Omega
- Espio
- Jet
- Rouge
- Silver
- Stick
- Vector
- Wave

EACH RACER
EXPANSION CONTAINS:
- 1 Miniature
- 1 Character Profile
- 1 Speed Token

Wording makes it sound like possibly blind on those character packs. Will have to see the price, but looks like it could be a fun intermediate/beginner group game. I think I'm in if the price is good, and depending on date. Also the kickstarter version box better have storage for all the characters. Should be interesting to see if any additional packs are included in the kickstarter. Once again, super sonic is an obvious kickstarter exclusive

Only major missing character would be chaos 0 and perhaps Tikal, perhaps also kickstarter possibilities
note not actually on kickstarter yet

Waddle Dee · Feb 1, 2018

So... how does this even play?

Shadow Hog · Feb 1, 2018

My answer is presently Titanic Monarch Zone Act 1. I love the feeling of ascending a tall tower like that, the ominous night-time mood that it has, the music's tone landing somewhere between oppressive and upbeat (whereas Act 2 just went for the former), and how they worked in one of the more memorable bonus stage gimmicks from S3&K directly into a stage proper (but now without the ascending instant-fail laser to screw you out of time to figure out how they work). It felt like Techno Tower in Chaotix actually done properly, with a bit of Panic Puppet Zone Act 2 mixed in for good measure (with the giant Eggman suit). One of the stronger end stages from the series.

I don't like Act 2 as much, though. The bottomless pits got rather annoying by the end of it all (I mean, they were covered up by teleportation fog, but let's face it, that's functionally what they were). I still fall into them on revisits...

Waddle Dee · Feb 1, 2018

Shadow Hog said:
It felt like Techno Tower in Chaotix

I knew it reminded me of something!

Virtua Sanus · Feb 2, 2018

For me Studiopolis Zone act 1 is the best act in Sonic Mania. I am a bit biased I suppose but just everything about that level popped out to me as perfect when the game was revealed. Not just the general art, use of colors, music, general presentation and vibe, but also the little touches and references all around the level. When I saw Sonic's silhouette behind the yellow windows in the initial trailer it immediately hit me that this game was absolutely going to deliver.

I was looking around YouTube and I am quite shocked there are still no worthwhile Sonic Forces mods out there yet. Mania has a significantly more interesting modding scene, how the hell did that happen? I figured at the very least people would be porting Unleashed levels by now, but I wonder if Forces' mechanics are too limited for that?

Zubz · Feb 3, 2018

I'd be more excited about the board game if I actually got the chance to play the Mega Man board game. All of my friends are too afraid of the rules & I don't know if this is going to be any better.

Nali · Feb 3, 2018

Virtua Sanus said:
I figured at the very least people would be porting Unleashed levels by now, but I wonder if Forces' mechanics are too limited for that?

It was a significant amount of work just to port Unleashed levels to Generations, and that's nearly the same engine instead of the Lost World offshoot Forces uses.

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