Star Wars Battlefront II |OT| The Circle is Now Complete

MAX PAYMENT · Jan 25, 2018

MrDaravon said:
The new team rebalancing thing has a bit of an issue that BF2015 didn't have; in BF2015 you could only Partner up with one person into matchmaking, so you didn't really see the total deathsquads you see in this game. Since this game allows larger parties (up to 4?) I'm already frequently seeing the same 3-4 people who are all fucking monsters in the same squad and the game doesn't (rightly) break them up its leading to these ridiculous roller coaster lobbies where whatever team they are on just completely crushes the other team and the other team gets totally shit on. Before if you got on a really bad team you could just at least quit out, here it's a constant 50/50 which I'm not sure is better or worse? It's honestly probably worse for me because if we're gonna be real I'm pretty much always top 3 BUT I'm either playing solo or with one friend who is frankly not very good, so the game pretty consistently puts me on the team opposite the hardcore squad. Like, after playing with these changes yesterday and today I may be done for a while because my skill level is actually kind of fucking me in a weird way?

Also real talk population has to be an issue. I played a LOT of BF2015 (470ish hours) and the last 8-12 months of that game's life in most lobbies I would definitely recognize at least a couple of names. I'm already having that happen here in most lobbies. That...is not good.

A game should never split a party. That defeats the purpose.

MrDaravon · Jan 25, 2018

MAX PAYMENT said:
A game should never split a party. That defeats the purpose.

I agree, that's why I said it rightly doesn't break it up. But as a result this creates a different problem where a squad of 3-4 really good dudes can totally run a lobby. It's a bit of a different problem than we had before, but it probably effects me more negatively then some folks since the matchmaking almost always tries to pit me against that squad but I don't have anyone else I'm running with soooo

I mean in theory the game should do a better job of matching skilled squads against each other but I don't think that's gonna happen lol

Xzan · Jan 26, 2018

The Battle Point system certainly doesn't help and only contributes to one-sided teams. Winning = more points = more heroes/vehicles/wookies, etc. Which is exacerbated because for the losing team the opposite is true.

I never minded the token system in the previous game since it at least the vehicle tokens rewarded map knowledge (though I think the hero token locations should've been randomised), and anyone could grab them at any time. I don't see that making a return though.

They can't really implement a Battlefield type system for vehicles and other units in the current modes but maybe they could put in a cooldown to pace out spawning for more powerful units. Better players will last longer as a hero/vehicle without being overwhelming and players on the losing team won't be starved for points.

That said, I haven't played for a few days, so I don't know what the balancing is like now. Though my other wish is that they'd remove the 'play each map twice' crap they have going. I'd rather play all 12 maps once than 6 maps twice. If people want to play as Separatists on Theed, give everyone the option to choose their preferred side before the round starts. First in, best dressed. If too many want to play as one faction, pick players at random and move the rest to the other team.

theJwac · Jan 26, 2018

Is there a discord for this hangout? I thought there was one for 2015 BF, but I looked in the OT with no luck.

The Traveller · Jan 26, 2018

MrDaravon said:
Since this game allows larger parties (up to 4?)

I've gone into Galactic Conquest with a group of at least 10 people. I often use the Xbox looking for group function to find a squad and I'll usually find myself with a good group of people.

If you want to group up on Xbox add my gamertag: holy canadian

I'm always looking for more people to play Battlefront with :)

MrDaravon · Jan 26, 2018

The Traveller said:
I've gone into Galactic Conquest with a group of at least 10 people. I often use the Xbox looking for group function to find a squad and I'll usually find myself with a good group of people.

If you want to group up on Xbox add my gamertag: holy canadian

I'm always looking for more people to play Battlefront with :)

Yeahhhhhhh, see stuff like this really fucks solo/duo good players because there's not really any good way to accommodate for things like that in matchmaking outside of significant changes that are not gonna happen. I'm gonna give it the weekend and see how I feel, but right now across 3 full nights of play I have felt actively punished for being top of the board solo as it's just consistently placing me against the top squad on the other side and there's just no competing against that.

I wish if nothing else it was like Halo/CoD etc where in the lobby/scoreboard you could see what players were partied up so I at least had an idea going in and/or if I had a chance at a decent rebalance on map change.

chancellor · Jan 26, 2018

Played this for the first time in a while. The supercharged sentry got a big nerf to how long it can fire bullets. I'm not a fan of that change, I would often spray loads of bullets into AT-ATs to get several chances to use a hero. That might not be as effective now.

WyLD iNk · Jan 26, 2018

chancellor said:
Played this for the first time in a while. The supercharged sentry got a big nerf to how long it can fire bullets. I'm not a fan of that change, I would often spray loads of bullets into AT-ATs to get several chances to use a hero. That might not be as effective now.

Yeah. They used to be perfect suppression units, but now it isn't even worth firing up the gun unless you know 100% you'll be connecting with something.

Deleted member 1627 · Jan 26, 2018

Correctomundo said:
Yeah. They used to be perfect suppression units, but now it isn't even worth firing up the gun unless you know 100% you'll be connecting with something.

I'm having much more success with the static version of the card, but that has some pretty bad down sides too, but the kills certainly come a little more easily.

The Traveller · Jan 26, 2018

MrDaravon said:
Yeahhhhhhh, see stuff like this really fucks solo/duo good players because there's not really any good way to accommodate for things like that in matchmaking outside of significant changes that are not gonna happen. I'm gonna give it the weekend and see how I feel, but right now across 3 full nights of play I have felt actively punished for being top of the board solo as it's just consistently placing me against the top squad on the other side and there's just no competing against that.

I wish if nothing else it was like Halo/CoD etc where in the lobby/scoreboard you could see what players were partied up so I at least had an idea going in and/or if I had a chance at a decent rebalance on map change.

Matchmaking does have it's issues, which I think is even compounded by the tiered star card system. I group up because I have a better time playing with teammates looking to communicate and have a fun time. In CoD I think they had a multiplayer mode called mercenaries where you weren't allowed to group up. Maybe they could offer a mercenary (bounty hunter) Galactic Conquest mode? I think it might be worth trying for a week or two to see how interested people are.

WyLD iNk · Jan 26, 2018

McBradders said:
I'm having much more success with the static version of the card, but that has some pretty bad down sides too, but the kills certainly come a little more easily.

I haven't tried the default yet. I assumed all sentry modes were nerfed.

Deleted member 1627 · Jan 26, 2018

Correctomundo said:
I haven't tried the default yet. I assumed all sentry modes were nerfed.

No, just the standard explosive sentry... the other two versions of the card seem untouched?

WyLD iNk · Jan 26, 2018

McBradders said:
No, just the standard explosive sentry... the other two versions of the card seem untouched?

Well, maybe I'll give the others a go and see if they make up for it.

Monkey D. · Jan 26, 2018

are the servers down for anybody else?

*germany

MAX PAYMENT · Jan 26, 2018

I don't think we will get any new content until March or later.

Even with balance tweaks in the mean time, it's just not enough.

Aquila · Jan 26, 2018

Oh man, I play on Xbox and I never even thought to use the looking for group function.

Correctomundo said:
Well, maybe I'll give the others a go and see if they make up for it.

Mobile sentry is a waste of a card slot to me but explosive sentry was untouched by the balance patch and remains good. Only downsides are that you will get headshot sniped and heros can actually get to you now.

Spartancarver · Jan 26, 2018

MAX PAYMENT said:
I don't think we will get any new content until March or later.

Even with balance tweaks in the mean time, it's just not enough.

This is what I'm thinking.

Haven't been on in over a week at this point.

Fj0823 · Jan 26, 2018

Jesus my bros and I are enjoy the fuck out of this game

cryptoadam · Jan 27, 2018

Its a shame EA got greedy with this game and originally designed the progression around MXT.

Its actually a pretty good game and now that they adjusted a lot of the values the unlocking isn't that bad. I still think level 4 cards at 480 parts is way too much though so they need to fix that.

The way it is now the progression system isn't that bad. You can grind out most guns and attachments a lot easier and you load up on crafting parts. Also goes to show how out of balance the game was originally and how it was designed around the MXT.

prag16 · Jan 27, 2018

Spartancarver said:
This is what I'm thinking.

Haven't been on in over a week at this point.

Same. Was hoping for prequel season in February/March with Kenobi and Utapau or something, and then a Solo season in May. Now I'm expecting something for Solo and very little before that. It's a shame.

MAX PAYMENT · Jan 27, 2018

This game reminds me of MGSV.

A ton of potential, but you're left thinking "wtf happened?"

ctcatsby · Jan 27, 2018

I've never played a DICE game where I thought, "Huh! This is not only well-balanced and fairly tuned, but is not frustrating to play in more than small bursts." Battlefield, Battlefront. Their balance and progression models are always completely wacked.

aka Palpatine is fucked up

janusff · Jan 27, 2018

I'm watching A New Hope and it just dawned on me. There should be a night time variant for Yavin IV map and extenuate the big red planet above. Maybe have a red hue on the map. Looks good in my mind.

MAX PAYMENT · Jan 28, 2018

MAX PAYMENT · Jan 28, 2018

tellNoel · Jan 28, 2018

Grievous was never officially confirmed for this game, right?

Fj0823 · Jan 28, 2018

TearablePuns said:
Grievous was never officially confirmed for this game, right?

His model is in the files

tellNoel · Jan 28, 2018

Fj0823 said:
His model is in the files

YOOOOO

I stopped playing the game a couple weeks ago but this would bring me back for a little while

Lukar · Jan 28, 2018

Now that I've beaten the campaign and played a good bit of multiplayer (Lots of Galactic Assault, a few rounds of Starfighter Assault), I have to say, I'm enjoying this game a hell of a lot more than I thought I would. The progression has its problems, sure, and I can definitely see how problematic the microtransactions would have been, but as it is now I think this is a pretty decent (though as I said, flawed) game. Holding down the palace on Naboo, storming the Rebel base on Yavin-4, and infiltrating the second Death Star have been very, very fun and cool moments for me.

I'm one of the weirdos who really likes the prequel era, so I hope a lot more content from that era is added soon. Regardless though, I'm totally in on this game, and I can't wait to see how it improves in the next few months.

Olengie · Jan 28, 2018

I look forward to more PT maps. Playing as a Clone appeals to me a lot more than as the Resitance/Rebels

MrDaravon · Jan 28, 2018

If the emperor doesn't get nerfed into the fucking ground on the next patch (aka fix him being able to easily get back to full health and kill people through TWO FUCKING WALLS) I'm definitely done with this game for a while. Consistently I am having a good time with this game until you get matched against a good player who is running all epic cards as the Emperor on the other team which is virtually unkillable and single-handedly kills any fun I have.

Moai · Jan 28, 2018

The only way to kill a purple emperor right now is getting a good player to play as chewie and get lucky to shock him. Knowing dice in the next patch they will nerf chewie and keep the emperor the same.

MrDaravon · Jan 28, 2018

Moai said:
The only way to kill a purple emperor right now is getting a good player to play as chewie and get lucky to shock him. Knowing dice in the next patch they will nerf chewie and keep the emperor the same.

Pretty much. I was watching really good Emperors clear 120+ kills all day today on certain maps, Naboo and Kamino probably being the biggest offenders.

I'm also recognizing 3+ playernames in almost every lobby I'm in now in GA. It took well over a year for that to happen in Battlefront 2015, and that was a game that had like 8 modes to play in. I'm kind of legitimately worried about what the playerbase must be like.

tellNoel · Jan 28, 2018

Moai said:
The only way to kill a purple emperor right now is getting a good player to play as chewie and get lucky to shock him. Knowing dice in the next patch they will nerf chewie and keep the emperor the same.

I've learned that Han's remote grenade absolutely destroys Palp's. Not only does it do massive damage, but it makes Palp stagger and from then on you can blast him to death

Moai · Jan 28, 2018

TearablePuns said:
I've learned that Han's remote grenade absolutely destroys Palp's. Not only does it do massive damage, but it makes Palp stagger and from then on you can blast him to death

If you can see him, because i was on the last phase of endor and palpatine kept electrocuting us from behind closed doors and from the basement.
Could this be a bug or was intended to go through walls?

adj_noun · Jan 28, 2018

Moai said:
If you can see him, because i was on the last phase of endor and palpatine kept electrocuting us from behind closed doors and from the basement.
Could this be a bug or was intended to go through walls?

I think it's a bug.

Xzan · Jan 29, 2018

Yeah. Anecdotally, I'm pretty sure Phasma's turret also zaps through walls (but that could be my imagination).

Gleethor · Jan 29, 2018

So apparently we might be getting a Bespin map in between seasons to tide us over.

https://youtu.be/4vk2abPp_rI

You'll notice that this channel has been leaking things for a little while.

IMO it makes sense. Bespin art assets are basically done, Cloud Car from the campaign is done so there's a "new" vehicle to throw in too. Bespin as a season centerpiece would be underwhelming, but it's also a classic SW location so releasing it as a stopgap works nicely.

MMarston · Jan 29, 2018

Gleethor said:
So apparently we might be getting a Bespin map in between seasons to tide us over.

https://youtu.be/4vk2abPp_rI

You'll notice that this channel has been leaking things for a little while.

IMO it makes sense. Bespin art assets are basically done, Cloud Car from the campaign is done so there's a "new" vehicle to throw in too. Bespin as a season centerpiece would be underwhelming, but it's also a classic SW location so releasing it as a stopgap works nicely.

The GA better be a Sabotage variant because that mode was actually fun as hell.

Well, on the right map anyways.

The Traveller · Jan 29, 2018

I wouldn't mind if they reused some of the maps from Battlefront 2015 if it meant a more steady stream of content.

I went on a 30 kill streak in Starfighter Assault the other day, hoping some of that new content is more maps to fly in!

PintSizedSlasher · Jan 29, 2018

MMarston said:
The GA better be a Sabotage variant because that mode was actually fun as hell.

Well, on the right map anyways.

Imagine what current Palpatine could do on a map similar to Carbon Freezing Chamber...

Nephilim · Jan 29, 2018

Give us Conquest, Dice!

Deleted member 1627 · Jan 29, 2018

Give us more SA maps.

Give us a whole SA game.

Man I love SA so much.

At 14 hero kills with Starfighters now... thank you, Falcon, for being a big sitting duck >:D

darthbob · Jan 29, 2018

McBradders said:
Give us more SA maps.

Give us a whole SA game.

Man I love SA so much.

At 14 hero kills with Starfighters now... thank you, Falcon, for being a big sitting duck >:D

i laughed (and cried) a little when i saw the X-wing vs TIE Fighter achievement pop up.

if SA was it's own game, I'd probably invest in a flight stick and throttle. :D

Deleted member 1627 · Jan 29, 2018

darthbob said:
i laughed (and cried) a little when i saw the X-wing vs TIE Fighter achievement pop up.

if SA was it's own game, I'd probably invest in a flight stick and throttle. :D

X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter has been at the top of my Steam wishlist forever, the only thing holding me back is the supposition that it doesn't play nice with a 360 controller.

MAX PAYMENT · Jan 29, 2018

McBradders said:
Give us more SA maps.

Give us a whole SA game.

Man I love SA so much.

At 14 hero kills with Starfighters now... thank you, Falcon, for being a big sitting duck >:D

Thankfully Darth maul's ship is popular and made of glass.

SA, like the rest of the game, has a tremendous potential to be a lot better than it is. The mode needs to be more dynamic. I always know what the objective will be, where it will be, flight paths, etc. It needs to be randomized and dynamic.

Fuchsia · Jan 29, 2018

Apparently there's a youtube channel that definitely has some kind of inside source seeing as it has leaked a bunch of small stuff such as the night time tatooine version and craft content from the game before it came out and got it right. He/she has now posted a video of a bunch of Bespin concept art with a title that says "can't wait to..." If history repeats itself, it could mean we could see one or two of the older Bespin maps from the last game put into this game in February with the new jump trooper cargo mode. Fingers crossed.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0z2GDa0qlE&t=209s

I'd be down for a couple of the older Bespin maps. Those were pretty great imo. Loved Administrator's Palace and the iconic Carbon Freezing Chamber. On that note, I'd be down for them to add in more older maps in-between seasons tied to new game modes. Sounds fun.

MMarston · Jan 29, 2018

The Traveller said:
I wouldn't mind if they reused some of the maps from Battlefront 2015 if it meant a more steady stream of content.

I went on a 30 kill streak in Starfighter Assault the other day, hoping some of that new content is more maps to fly in!

MAX PAYMENT · Jan 29, 2018

I'm gonna slowly grind away at the platinum trophy. If something meaningful doesn't come out before I get it, I'll most likely drop the game.

PintSizedSlasher · Jan 30, 2018

All the matches I've played (mostly Blast) since the matchmaking update have been super close, all within 5 kills or so.
No more matches with a difference of 30-40 kills that I've been seeing pre-update.
Anyone else experiencing the same?

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