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HStallion

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Oct 25, 2017
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Togashi's message from this week, thanks to reddit:

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We can now move on from blaming his back and Dragon Quest for the many long breaks. Its now Criminal Minds that is distracting and delaying him.
 

Grahf

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Oct 27, 2017
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(A HxH thread and I discover it only today ?? I think I'll enjoy myself here as 'long' as publication continues : o)

That last chapter was really enjoyable !
Kurapika's lessons being so drama and conspirations filled.
Side 13th prince story with Hanzo, Bisc and more Hanzo ? "I'm gonna discover the culprit". 3 pages and an OP power later, it's done.
Also since I saw some words on Hanzo being "Ponzu'd" or something, I don't have more proof than anyone but I don't see this outcome at all (But I'll still be pleased if Togashi proved me wrong).
Also, 6th prince lying bodyguard (thanks for only naming the boring one Toga' !) turned me into a fan in 1 panel.
And that last page.... Now that's badass on multiple levels.
After all this brain stimulation over lies and conspiracies and nen wielding beasts... Glad to see someone going straight to the point. Go go #2 !

Between this and the ULTRA BADASS One Piece, today's been fucking great.

Edit : Not 100% sure of rules here so I spoiler'd my thoughts on the chapter.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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So the way I understood Kurapika and the bodyguards' conversation about the feather Nen is that it's likely to be Harkenburg's Nen beast, which is a manipulator type. Apart from placing a feather mark on people who follow Harkenburg's belief of withdrawing from the war along with his younger siblings, we don't know if it was Harkenburg's intention to place the mark or the Nen beast's or what exactly the ability is. I think it's more likely that it's the Nen beast's way of marking anyone associated with the prince who is unfaithful to the succession ceremony. Looking back the only two rules that Nen beasts follow are: 1. They can't fight or kill each other and 2. they can't attack the host of another Nen beast. While protecting its host is a high priority of the beasts, it's assumed by Kurapika that protection may not be the highest priority and it is not one of the 2 ingrained rules. One thing I think that may be of higher priority is ensuring that the succession ceremony continues. Based on another speculation Kurapika made last chapter, if a prince withdraws from the ceremony then all Nen beasts disappear, if Harkenburg's Nen beast continues to sense the prince's intention it may choose to eliminate him. I think this for two reasons, why protect a prince who shows no interest in becoming king and why would a beast allow their host to live if they threaten every Nen beasts' existence as well as their sole purpose?

Sorry for being long-winded but I just felt like writing out some of what I was thinking.

Makes sense to me. It's interesting that dying is preferable to withdrawing, but the end of the last chapter shows that even in death the prince's can be used somehow. Maybe their nen beast goes back into the "system"
 

edo_kid

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Oct 27, 2017
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Why doesn't Bisky just one shot shit on introduction then?

She could if she wanted, but she is smart to maintain the "kid" appearance and hide her true strength.

They just aren't ready. All their meticulous preparations will no doubt fail. This shit has doomed expedition written all over it.

I really can't wait to see the DC. It's like a darker, more horrifying Gourmet World lol.

I have a feeling the Zodiac's are gonna get screwed big time, overall they have no experience in it and have been rushed.
While Beyond has been to DC and almost made it back with a "reward", he knows what to expect and have been preparing for years.

Hard to say. Dodgeball was perfect for Razor's powers, as it was for Gon. I'm not necessarily saying she's stronger than guys like Feitan and Phinks, but she's at least equal.

Razor's probably "stronger" in terms of power but Bisky could win it, with her experience and mastery of Nen. Although I'm a huge Bisky fan, so I'm obviously biased :P

According to Togashi databook Bisky is stronger than Chrollo, Hisoka and Razor. Only Netero and the ants were higher.
 

Ultra

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According to Togashi databook Bisky is stronger than Chrollo, Hisoka and Razor. Only Netero and the ants were higher.

Well, that was before Chrollo got a huge upgrade and can use four powers simultaneously.

I've never taken that chart too seriously, it's full of questionable things. Like how Zushi is overall below this guy

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I understand Zepile is ahead because of his knowledge, but for most of Zushi to be 1?

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edo_kid

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Ultra Togashi works in mysterious ways lol

But hey Zepile was a nen genius like Komugi, using it unconsciously. Maybe potential also counts.
 

B-Dubs

That's some catch, that catch-22
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Oct 25, 2017
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Zepile had an unconscious ability to use Nen, Zushi had just started learning about it and couldn't be trusted to use it.
 

Ultra

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Zepile had an unconscious ability to use Nen, Zushi had just started learning about it and couldn't be trusted to use it.

Right, except this goes up until the Chimera Ant arc. We saw even during that arc that Zushi was still with Wing, training hard. So after a year or however long it's been since Heaven's Arena, he's still this low? I just find it a hard pill to swallow. Zushi's an incredible talent too.
 

Daingurse

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That chart honestly looks sound when you compare and contrast the stats of everyone. Zushi is still far beyond any normal human-being, even with those kinds of stats. Being able to manipulate your aura is huge.
 

Ultra

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Oct 30, 2017
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I'm just salty that we left Zushi training his aura, next time him months later he's still training his aura and he's a 1?

<--- Zushi fan.
 

Daingurse

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I'm just salty that we left Zushi training his aura, next time him months later he's still training his aura and he's a 1?

<--- Zushi fan.
We're too used to seeing freakish prodigies. It's probably gonna take Zushi years to hone his Nen, and ain't nothing wrong with that. Probably exactly what Wing wants too.

It actually would be cool if they do a timeskip and Zushi is some beastly Floormaster now. Show that hard work actually pays off lol.
 

Ultra

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We're too used to seeing freakish prodigies. It's probably gonna take Zushi years to hone his Nen, and ain't nothing wrong with that. Probably exactly what Wing wants too.

It actually would be cool if they do a timeskip and Zushi is some beastly Floormaster now. Show that hard work actually pays off lol.

That's the thing. I got the sense that Zushi had been training non-stop since Heaven's Arena, especially since he made it clear he'd catch up to Gon and Killua. He's also an incredible talent, Wing doesn't sugarcoat things, it's just that Gon and Killua are outliers as far as potential goes.

If a rescue task force is formed [assuming everything goes to shit in DC] I hope Zushi and Wing go. Would be cool.
 

B-Dubs

That's some catch, that catch-22
On Break
Oct 25, 2017
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Right, except this goes up until the Chimera Ant arc. We saw even during that arc that Zushi was still with Wing, training hard. So after a year or however long it's been since Heaven's Arena, he's still this low? I just find it a hard pill to swallow. Zushi's an incredible talent too.
He might not have a specific ability yet, Zepile likely did (even if it was useless for combat).

That's the thing. I got the sense that Zushi had been training non-stop since Heaven's Arena, especially since he made it clear he'd catch up to Gon and Killua. He's also an incredible talent, Wing doesn't sugarcoat things, it's just that Gon and Killua are outliers as far as potential goes.

If a rescue task force is formed [assuming everything goes to shit in DC] I hope Zushi and Wing go. Would be cool.
I think Zushi needs another few years before he gets to where Gon and Killua are, let alone be competent enough to go on a rescue mission to the DC.
 

nelsonroyale

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Oct 28, 2017
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Well, that was before Chrollo got a huge upgrade and can use four powers simultaneously.

I've never taken that chart too seriously, it's full of questionable things. Like how Zushi is overall below this guy



I understand Zepile is ahead because of his knowledge, but for most of Zushi to be 1?

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The King is not on the list because his strength is beyond measure?
 

edo_kid

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Oct 27, 2017
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If a rescue task force is formed [assuming everything goes to shit in DC] I hope Zushi and Wing go. Would be cool.

If the strongest people in the world fail at DC what is Zushi even gonna do there?
There's not gonna be a rescue party because they are not failing, sure a lot of people are going to die but they will be back with something.

The King is not on the list because his strength is beyond measure?

He had a "?", but if Netero have pertfect stats then the King needs a higher chart lol.
 

woopWOOP

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Oct 26, 2017
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Zushi is going to team up with fishing rod Gon, OP Killua, doctor Leorio and his senior patient Kurapika in the final arc against Gyro

only to get Ponzu'd within 5 chapters
 

Ultra

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He might not have a specific ability yet, Zepile likely did (even if it was useless for combat).


I think Zushi needs another few years before he gets to where Gon and Killua are, let alone be competent enough to go on a rescue mission to the DC.

Fair enough, personally I think Zushi's gonna surprise us when we see him next and be comparable to Gon and Killua. Bisky is Wing's mentor, and I could see him wanting to go there if Bisky gets in some real trouble, of course Zushi will tag along.

If the strongest people in the world fail at DC what is Zushi even gonna do there?
There's not gonna be a rescue party because they are not failing, sure a lot of people are going to die but they will be back with something.

This all comes down to if the expedition is a failure which it could be. Could also be a success though.

As for the first point, he could be there because he wants to help Wing find his mentor's mentor. Not even reached DC yet and Bisky's already in trouble. Nen is also a wonderful thing where even people not that impressive physically can be useful depending on the circumstances and their own power, Zushi might have such a power but that like this whole discussion is speculation. Also, it's not like there isn't plenty of other strong Nen users out there. Hilariously, the best Nen may not even be on the boat, we know Ging is in the top 5, but he's unlikely no1 otherwise Bisky would of just said he's no1 and not just in the top 5. Same for Beyond, Pariston, having the title as no1 in the world is a big thing, and nothing like that has been said for them.
 

edo_kid

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Hilariously, the best Nen may not even be on the boat, we know Ging is in the top 5, but he's unlikely no1 otherwise Bisky would of just said he's no1 and not just in the top 5. Same for Beyond, Pariston, having the title as no1 in the world is a big thing, and nothing like that has been said for them.

I still think Netero was nº1, he did say that was weak and had lost half the strengh since he was in his prime but that means nothing if the original gap was very big, even weaker he may still be the strongest. Not to mention that he also said that he was at Knov and Morel level now, lol so he was not speaking very seriously.

Also him looking at the King as the ultimate power that can force him to fight at his fullest implies that he never found a opponent stronger than him, more implication that he still was the number 1.
 

Ultra

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I still think Netero was nº1, he did say that was weak and had lost half the strengh since he was in his prime but that means nothing if the original gap was very big, even weaker he may still be the strongest. Not to mention that he also said that he was at Knov and Morel level now, lol so he was not speaking very seriously.

Also him looking at the King as the ultimate power that can force him to fight at his fullest implies that he never found a opponent stronger than him, more implication that he still was the number 1.

Perhaps. From what I understood though the top 5 was more from an aura/overall Nen standpoint and not so much who'd win in a fight. Could be wrong on that though.
 

edo_kid

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Oct 27, 2017
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Perhaps. From what I understood though the top 5 was more from an aura/overall Nen standpoint and not so much who'd win in a fight. Could be wrong on that though.

It's probably a combination of everything.
With nen being the main fighting power in hxh world im sure those Top 5 are gonna have some top tier battle capabilities, even if they are not primarily fighting focus.
Look a Leorio, the guy is a doctor with a nen power primarily focus on medical aplications yet Ging shown how broken it can get when used in a fight by a top tier.
 
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Neoriceisgood

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Oct 26, 2017
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Oh Hunter x Hunter I've missed you so much!

Ninja guy's ability is kinda fun, waited so long to see what he can actually do. xD
 

HStallion

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Oct 25, 2017
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If he lives long enough I'm wondering what other ninja nen abilities we'll see from Hanzo. Will he switch places with a log to make an escape?
 

Ultra

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Oct 30, 2017
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Ya'll missing the obvious one, Hanzo will obviously talk with the Nen beasts and stop them of their negative emotion/actions. He'll then have a discussion with the 4th Prince, and after that the Prince will have changed his life around.
 

HStallion

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Oct 25, 2017
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Also what was the party prince, the fat one who has the giant ball with mouths for a Nen beast, talking about when he says he's going to introduce something that will change the world?
 
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Euphony

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Oct 25, 2017
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Do Nen beasts have the same Nen type as their Prince?
We don't know enough about the Princes or the Nen beasts to really say either way. The Nen beasts could use their host's natural affinity to a Nen type or on the other hand, since they're parasites and not part of their host, they can have their own specialization.
 

Daingurse

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Oct 25, 2017
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Do Nen beasts have the same Nen type as their Prince?
Hmm, I don't know how that works, now that I think about. Nen Beasts are probably a combination of Nen types, right? Goreinu's beasts in Greed Island were made with Emission+Manipulation, and he himself was a Manipulator. But I think these special Spirit Beasts might indeed be influenced by the Prince's Nen category, since they seem to be so closely linked.
 

Ultra

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Oct 30, 2017
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For the return of the manga, if anyone needs a catch-up from the end of the election arc until now: read this

Explains all the main stuff.
 

theMrCravens

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Oct 25, 2017
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I've only read the post-anime arcs, but is the entire serie this text heavy ?

I honestly find it pretty boring to follow right now, even if the main story concept is cool.
 
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I've only read the post-anime arcs, but is the entire serie this text heavy ?

I honestly find it pretty boring to follow right now, even if the main story concept is cool.
I think this would be more enjoyable as a reread in it's entirety personally. I like it, but the week to week tension is a drain, pretty much I'm pretty sure dealing with the Chimera Ant Arc on release would be exactly like this, yet experienced as a whole with actual pacing it's my favorite one.
 

Ultra

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Been rereading chapters and these pages are quite touching and sad

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It's been a long time coming, but to think Kurapika is on the verge of completing his main goal. After that, he'll be somewhat in the same boat as Gon who also completed his main goal, perhaps he can find something to do and live peacefully. There's also the Phantom Troupe, but I imagine Hisoka is gonna clear most of them up, with possibly Kurapika taking out Nobug/Chrollo. However, after this I can imagine his story being mostly done. Will probably come back for a potential Gyro arc with the rest of the main four.

Leorio still needs to get 'his story' hopefully we a nice spectacle for Leorio in DC. He really deserves it. I hope he saves fucking everyone. On Killua's side, he completed his main goal but he might actually be the furthers from having his character wrapped up. The longest running conflict yet to be dealt with or even slow down is with his family, Illumi at the forefront. That conflict has reached new highs after the election arc, at some point he's gonna have to stop running from who he is and face it head on.
 

B-Dubs

That's some catch, that catch-22
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Oct 25, 2017
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Kurapika needs a reminder that there's people in the world that still care about him and want him around. Melody and Leorio might need to have an intervention at some point to remind him of that.