So I'm going to be doing Travis Touchdown cosplay for a con, but I need a nerdy t-shirt, preferably about a magical girl property, to complete the ensemble (the red leather jacket was the hardest thing to get and had to be bought online, but there was no Hot Topic in the mall I was at yesterday getting the distressed jeans and the sunglasses). I'm debating getting a FiM tee. Anyone have anything they really like?
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My Little Pony |OT| An adventure that never will end
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To be clear, the fan consensus is that the second movie, Rainbow Rocks, is by far the best one, and the third movie, Friendship Games, has a lot of fans too.
Netflix only has the TV specials, none of the online shorts. I'll link the shorts in the thread as you go along, like I did for Rainbow Rocks last page.
They try to have more romance with Flash Sentry in Rainbow Rocks (barely), but by the third movie, they completely give up on that idea and instead make him a punching bag and it's fantastic. There's one GIF I'd like to post, but you should at least watch the third movie, Friendship Games, before that.
To go over the history of the character, we first learned of Equestria Girls through leaked character assets, one of which was Flash Sentry with a guitar, no name listed. People immediately identified him as the douchy guitar playing love interest, and started calling him Brad, popularized by an interesting series of fan shorts (first below). I think the name itself came from Adventure Time, where Lumpy Space Princess had a made up boyfriend named Brad. People still call him Brad sometimes, including me.
When the movie actually came out, people were taken aback by how incidental he was to the story. The only time he actually matters is that part where Sunset frames Twilight for wrecking the dance decorations and Brad comes to the rescue, and that's only like three minutes. Twilight doesn't even say goodbye to him at the end! People assume that they felt obligated to include a love interest, but didn't actually want him to do anything. This is especially weird given his backstory of being Sunset's ex-boyfriend, which never comes up again in the first movie, and is just mentioned in passing later.
By the way, he actually pops up a couple times in season 4.
"Three's a Crowd" - He gives Twilight a look, but she completely fails to acknowledge him.
"Twilight's Kingdom" - He announces something. Twilight still doesn't even look at him.
And then he never appears again. He was actually supposed to appear in the season 5 episode, "Slice of Life", but he was cut for time. He was going to complain to Cranky (the donkey) that he doesn't understand why no one likes him, only for Cranky to get up and leave.
That reminds me, as someone who wasn't involved in the fandom, what did you think of "Slice of Life"? That's the episode with the wedding between Cranky and Matilda (the donkeys) that focused on background and side characters.
Oh, and the above fan video includes a song I'm sure you hadn't heard before. It's from an actual commercial, released in 2011.
Sunset and Equestria is bizarre. There's a story right there of Sunset reuniting with Celestia, but they hadn't actually pulled the trigger on it until the upcoming special, "Forgotten Friendship". No one even brings it up! She shows some interest in returning to Equestria in the third movie, Friendship Games, but it isn't for a reason that makes any sense for the character. And she does return in the TV special "Mirror Magic", but it's just for a few minutes, she doesn't leave the room, she only talks to Starlight, and it's just to pick up a book.
The order of the movies is:
Original
Rainbow Rocks
Friendship Games
Legend of Everfree
Then the TV specials.
Twilight = Sunset = Starlight
Sparkle = Shimmer = Glimmer
Both Sunset and Starlight are meant to be mirror images of Twilight, and thus have names based on her. It'd be weird if you didn't get the names mixed up!
Don't apologize at all, we're the ones who are strange for making huge posts about cartoon ponies. You have no obligation to do the same.
Would Travis even like ponies? He's more into the fanservice type of moe.
My interpretation of him is someone who likes girly aesthetic fandoms for their own sake. Pure White Glastonberry Extreme was pure loli fan-service bait, but was also a lot less provocative than it could have been if Travis was meant to be the kind of person who was only into it for the ecchi factor. Hence "Moe" which is the "purer" side of that, the "they are cute and I must protect them!" emotion.
Fan consensus is meaningless given how popular Fluttershy is :V
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Speaking of Fluttershy, they're finally officially uploading the choose your own adventure shorts onto YouTube! One a week.
And for the people (me) who want it in Japanese.
Same opinion as before. They aren't super interesting and don't really have strong punchlines. The DJ-Pon3 choice in particular should have been a lot funnier than it was.
And Fluttershy stream today at 12:30 PM PST! If you aren't on Discord, PM me for the link.
And for the people (me) who want it in Japanese.
Same opinion as before. They aren't super interesting and don't really have strong punchlines. The DJ-Pon3 choice in particular should have been a lot funnier than it was.
And Fluttershy stream today at 12:30 PM PST! If you aren't on Discord, PM me for the link.
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Hey, I recognize you from The Round Stable and the TV Tropes forum. Welcome!
I like Spike well enough. His focus episodes usually aren't that strong, but he's often good in a supporting role.
Hell yeah!
Uh, I don't suppose you have a list to compare it to? :P Because I'm honestly not sure what all's come out in the last eight years at this point.
Gotcha, thanks for the hospitality! I will be watching Rainbow Rocks tonight.
That video was great lol, but wow I didn't know there was more to him then just being a crummy love interest!
Oof, though I might not like him much I don't believe he deserves too much of the good ol' one-two :P
Oh I really liked that episode! Was really a nice change of pace to give character to the town and it really shows that the show alone could probably do more than just the main characters and still remain entertaining! I forgot her name but the grey pony with the funny eyes had such a cute voice!
Thanks! Pinkie Pie has such a great singing voice, heck my favorite song from the movie was "One Small Thing" just cause of her dynamic.
Interesting! So she does interact with the pony world, but there's not much more than that. I think you actually posted a video of Sunset interacting with Starlight, I should go back and look.
That upcoming special is coming this month, yes? I'd really like to see it!
Thanks again for the order of release! I'll keep it in mind.
Yes that would be weird! I'm starting to see the similarities!
I don't see how that's strange at all. This stuff is so cool to hear about. Just goes to show that MLP has an awesome fandom!
For all my complaints, I do!
Uh, kinda? If you go back a page or two you'll see a fairly in-depth talk on the character and why he's hard to write.
I remember enjoying the following:
"Owls Well that Ends Well" (was my first MLP ep so it has a special place in my shriveled heart)
"Secret of My Excess"
"Just for Sidekicks"
"Power Ponies"
"Dungeons and Discords"
"Owls Well" isn't a popular episode in the fandom because it's saccharine as fuck and doesn't do much, and I don't actually remember much to "Secret of my Excess" other than I liked it at the time. I'll stand by the other three. As to the rest, they're hit/miss with I think more misses.
Owls Well is notably underrated and does the best job of exploring the odd "sort of family, sort of work buddies" dynamic Spike and Twilight have going of any episode in the series.
I've mentioned it before, I think, but I'm a tremendous fan of the fic A New Sun Rises because it does for Sunset what the show did for Starlight by giving her a proper character arc on her road to redemption, where her flaws aren't just gone six months later but crop up as the driving force behind various well-intentioned mistakes over time.
Whoa, I've only read a chapter of that fox and I'm hooked! Haven't felt this way about fanfiction before!
Sturgeon's Law applies, but there's such a staggering amount of pony fanfic that there's still a huge amount of legitimately great work out there.
You wouldn't be the first person I've dragged down the rabbit hole at this point.
Well hello everypony! Been a while (a long while) since I posted in the mlp thread. I almost gave up in the show after season 6, which I mostly did not like. I caught season 7 on Netflix and loved it. That episode about AJ's parents was just incredible, and so well handled. Loved Rainbow Dash's parents too. Starlight really grew on me too, loved the episode where she and Trixie had to help the changlings and just screwed up the entire time.
Anyways I got around to renting the movie. It was way better than I expected. Apparently the pony world gets real weird and dark outside of equestria. I didn't think it was perfect by any means and of course Celestia and Luna prove to be useless but I had fun watching it. I thought Tempest was cool and liked her story arc. Although ponies seem to go crazy for the littlest things. Starlight becomes a communist extremist when her friend gets his cutie mark first and goes off to school and Tempest becomes a facist stormtrooper when other ponies wouldn't play ball with her. Please ponies, play nicely and be inclusive. Ponies go crazy otherwise.
Anyways I got around to renting the movie. It was way better than I expected. Apparently the pony world gets real weird and dark outside of equestria. I didn't think it was perfect by any means and of course Celestia and Luna prove to be useless but I had fun watching it. I thought Tempest was cool and liked her story arc. Although ponies seem to go crazy for the littlest things. Starlight becomes a communist extremist when her friend gets his cutie mark first and goes off to school and Tempest becomes a facist stormtrooper when other ponies wouldn't play ball with her. Please ponies, play nicely and be inclusive. Ponies go crazy otherwise.
You'd figure this would create anti-unicorn racism. One nutty unicorn can destroy a village or the whole kingdom.
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We decided not to talk about them in the thread, other than them existing. A couple people here have watched some of them, but none all of them I think.
Haha, look at you, jumping into fan fics after just a few months! It took me years.
Speaking of fan fics, The Enchanted Library by Monochromatic is getting a book printing! For those who don't know how this works without Hasbro getting upset, these fan fic books have low print runs and they're sold at a loss, just covering the printing costs. Here's a sample print.
A new chapter of The Last Train Home by Monochromatic came out, and it's filled with misery. In a good way, since that's the intention. And then Mono has the gall to encourage sad readers to go check out the story this is a prequel to, Injuring Eternity, for comfort, and that's her saddest story!
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Here's Saturday's RP event, RP 9 - The Ghost Mansion, a comedic one-shot. Even more improvised than usual. I played around with the ability to delete messages for jumpscares.
And today's stream was Fluttershy Day. The episodes were:
1. A Bird in the Hoof
2. Putting Your Hoof Down
3. Japanese Putting Your Hoof Down (selected scenes)
4. Filli Vanilli
5. Scare Master
6. Flutter Brutter
And here were the YouTube videos in between:
1.PinkiePieSwear - Flutterwonder - YouTube
2.How 'Bird in the Hoof' Would Have Gone - YouTube
3.MLP: Tron (Cheer up,Fluttershy!) \ Animation - YouTube
4.[SFM] The Gateway - YouTube
5.Love Like Fluttershy - YouTube
6.[PMV] - The Garden - YouTube
7.Skyrim My Little Pony Dragon Mod - YouTube
8.Lemme Smash - Pony Edition - YouTube
9.Flutterlicious - BlackGryph0n - YouTube
For those new to the fandom (hint hint) I especially recommend checking out The Garden.
"A Bird in the Hoof" had a lot of padding that I forgot about, particularly with Rainbow Dash. The entire episode loses a lot of its point with the revelation that Philomena was just pretending to be sick, but there's still a lot of fun humor and expressions. After two episodes in season 1 with Benny Hill chase scenes, it's kind of odd that we never got another one again. It would be neat if season 9 had one last scene like that. It's also strange that Philomena has never shown up again, and apparently Celestia only brought her out this one time she was sick. Are we sure Celestia wasn't in on the troll too?
With "Putting Your Hoof Down" right after the previous episode, it's actually a pretty striking contrast. Before, Fluttershy was respected by her animals and could easily talk to Celestia, but now everyone is out to get her. Also, Rarity and Pinkie give bad lessons to the kids. Iron Will and Assertive Fluttershy are still fun, though.
The Japanese dub had some fun voice acting for Fluttershy, Rarity, Pinkie, and Iron Will. The sequence of Fluttershy beating up random ponies in particular was fantastic, with the dub adding one of my favorite Fluttershy lines in general, "If sorry was enough, we wouldn't need the police!" This episode cut the sequence with Fluttershy's gardener overwatering the plants to include an important Little Pony TV segment where Pinkie's VA talks to Twilight about "Dance Party", their version of "At the Gala". The Grand Galloping Gala was translated to Dance Party spoken in English. Weird. At this point in the series, we have the third opening (featuring the royal wedding and also Flim and Flam) and the second ending, which I actually like for this show a lot.
"Filli Vanilli" is still fantastic, but still, Jesus, Pinkie!
"Scare Master" is still great.
I had to actually leave in the middle of "Flutter Brutter" and Sylvee had left earlier, leaving poor Cappy to finish it alone. Episode was still good, and it was interesting seeing just how much the backgrounds improved, with all the details in Fluttershy's parents' house.
Next week will be Rarity Day, part 1. Yes, she gets two days! Though they will be broken up by a streaming day for "Forgotten Friendship" on February 18th.
EDIT: Oh hey, wookieeofdoom ! Glad you're back and that you enjoyed season 7 and the Movie. There's a new EQG hour long special coming in two weeks, FYI.
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FiM's got an undercurrent of realism that's a big part of its core appeal, imo. Everyone's a magical talking pony, but they've still gotta work for a living and the dark creepy woods are lethal.
At a surface level there are similarities, yes. But their personality, (both as a villain and good guy) backstory, character arc, how they were reformed, and how their character acted post-reformation are all entirely different. My issue with calling her a "Sunset clone" is that it implies that she was created to be similar to Sunset, presumably because she was well received in Rainbow Rocks and they wanted to create another one. The timeline for that doesn't make any sense though and the show creators have gone on record saying that Sunset's success had no bearing on them creating Starlight. Rainbow Rocks was released in September 2014 and Season 5 started in April 2015. Most episodes take over a year from concept to post-production to make, which means that Cutie Map was already well under way before Rainbow Rocks was released, and I'm pretty confident that the original intent for Starlight being created was to reform her later on, which means that they already had the idea for her before they even knew about how well-received Sunset was.
The two have similar interests, they play off each other well. They have a dynamic: he's more laid back and silly. He cares about looking "cool" and might be a bit full of himself. She's more obsessive and serious. She doesn't really care as much about how people see her and is the first person to groan at his corny jokes. They have shared interests they can bond over, and have differing personality quirks that make them distinct and can cause friction as well. It's certainly the best pairing that they've portrayed on the show so far, not that there's any serious competition.
I feel like part of why Starlight works for me so well is that she's not "Evil Twilight." Her mannerisms as a villain are her own, and she doesn't exist there to try and say something about Twilight. (I think a large part of why Sunset was a terrible villain is that her character doesn't extend past being if Twilight decided to become an evil high school bully) Comparisons between Starlight and Twilight are inevitable because of their naming conventions, their skill at magic, and their student-teacher dynamic, but the contrasting personalities feel like they're organic and are an extension of how the characters are defined to act rather then trying to alter one of the characters so they can relate to the other. (IE what they tried to do in Magic Duel) There's already way too many Twilight foils to begin with, so introducing a new main character whose core concept is to exist as a foil to Twilight feels like overkill.
From my experience I feel like one of the bigger contention points with Starlight is that people want to see others get just punishment for their actions and get frustrated because they feel like the writers are not punishing Starlight because she's the teacher's pet. I feel like there's tons of in-character justifications as to why punishing Starlight is generally counter-intuitive and would likely encourage bad behavior from her but I feel like most the people that are complaining about this don't care that punishing her would probably just make matters worse, or fail to understand how someone like Starlight would probably respond to that kind of stuff.
That being said I would say that some people relate to Sunset's struggle more because her problems are everyone else around her rather then herself, and Starlight's is about learning that you have problems and trying to fix them. Not all people that prefer Sunset over Starlight but definitely some.
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Someone should tell the Everfree Forest that
Also jeeze you guys need to slow down, it's making me hard to respond to even half the stuff being mentioned here.
You do a better job of selling the idea of those two as a couple than the film does, imo! I just really think if Hasbro had to go down this path (and they really didn't need to), they should have waited an extra film. Just focus on the two as friends in LoE and then progress a bit more in the romantic light.
Also, while you're not wrong that most MLP romances aren't great, I'd still argue that Fluttercord is a better pairing than Timberlight. They're not perfectly written, but there's been a lot of development and time spent towards their interactions. And it helps that Discord clearly wasn't created in the first place to be Fluttershy's eventual boyfriend, but that instead they just had good comedic chemistry in their first interactions together and then the idea of a possible romance was introduced in subsequent appearances from Discord.
Let me dispense with the word clone, then, since it's muddling the point. RR hitting when it did is a coincidence, yes, but it's also not really important to my train of thought here.
Had EQG1 ended with Sunset following Twilight back through the portal, then for all that she's got her own history and foibles and would have had different sorts of plots written around her, she'd still have ended up filling the role of Twilight's friendship student in the cast that Starlight took up later. Would've worked really well at the time, even, since it would've given Twilight's ascension an immediate focus instead of it flailing around for two seasons.
Starlight comes off as the writing team realizing that they missed an opportunity and filling the space with a broadly similar character. Hasbro probably wouldn't have let them use Sunset even if they'd wanted to anyway, and Princess Twilight being a thing at all out of nowhere obviously threw everything for a loop for a while, so I'm not broken up about it, but I can see where people are coming from.
Only reason Twilight isn't a statue lost to time is because she got really lucky.
(characters wandering over to the castle off-screen all the time is silly yes)
Most the stuff I said was bits and pieces you can see in the movie itself. I've said it several times before but I feel like the hate towards Timber is based on what he represents rather then his actual character. And yeah I feel like the love interest stuff being delayed a bit might have led to people being more accepting of him (although I feel like some are partially upset that SciSet got blown out) but part of the problem with EQG in general is that the format it told stories makes it really hard to have character development for anyone besides Twilight, Sunset, and SciTwi. Things are better with shorts but I feel like a <5 minute short is kinda hard to tell serious stories with, and upgrading Timber from good friend to love interest in that format probably would have felt weird. Not saying it couldn't have been done better but it's something to keep in mind.
I forgot about Fluttercord although the idea that Discord ends up falling for the first person that was ever genuinely nice to him doesn't sit right with me.
Up until very recently don't think that EQG has really ever had any impact on the main show at all, which is why aside from a cameo by Flash they've never referenced EQG in the main show at all to my knowledge until they had the Sirens in Shadow Play. I'm fairly certain that Starlight was created with the intent to turn her into Twilight's student, but I don't think that Sunset had anything to do with that at all.
Real talk given how many super dangerous creatures in Equestria it's amazing that they live such peaceful lives. Maybe they're all secretly afraid of Celestia and Luna
Oh I know it's all there in the movie- I'm saying that you do a better job of presenting an argument for why I should care about all of that than the film does. And you're not wrong; it's what Timber represents that pisses me off more than anything else. He's a far better love interest than Flash was... but it still doesn't change the fact that he's blatantly there as Twilight's love interest more than anything else. LoE counterbalances that a little bit with the mystery between him and his sister, but I just think the film would be stronger if they had taken the time to take it slowly.
And yeah, tossing aside SciSet/probably Sunlight in general after two previous movies building the idea of that dynamic in fans' minds didn't help matters. That's sort of why I'm so adamant about the idea of Timber just being a friend to Twilight in LoE and then becoming a love interest later- because that's what made a lot of people get into the idea of Sunlight and SciSet as a romance in the first place. That dynamic is introduced first as a growing friendship with some serious chemistry and then we get straightup Madoka type moments in the climax of Friendship Games... and then one year later, it's all tossed out for some guy that appears out of nowhere to take the gay away?
I just don't like that. If they had to go that direction at all, I think they would have been better off taking their time to transition over from friendship to romance for Timber and Twilight.
Like I said, Fluttercord has its writing problems. I just think it's handled better in general.
Flash and Timber are both dumb characters who exist to fill a high school romance quota independently of what the plot calls for, but it is at least amusing that swooning for mediocre guys at a moment's notice is apparently just a consistent character trait of all Twilights.
I've got something like that as a plot point in a fic outline I never got around to fleshing out.
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Yeah, I suppose I was getting too focused on the clone discussion. A big part of what makes Starlight work is that she isn't a 1-to-1 evil version of Twilight. She isn't that super similar to Twilight, but she also isn't her opposite.
I don't know how I forgot about the punishment aspect. Sunset was forced to rebuild part of the school and had everyone hate her, then it took a while for even Twilight to fully trust her, so people were fine with her being 100% good after. Starlight's torment only comes from herself, with everyone she hurt forgiving her pretty easily. I do still think that the other Main Six, at least, could have shown more discomfort at having to spend time with Starlight, but I find Starlight's internal struggle more interesting for a continuous story than Sunset's external one.
Which is why they created a character with an extremely similar naming scheme to Sunset.
I think Sciz has the right timeline here. While working on Rainbow Rocks, they realized that they wanted to tell a reformation story over a long period of time, instead of a single movie, and made Starlight as a result.
And Sciz, I hadn't thought about the fact that having Twilight take on a pupil as soon as she became a princess would have provided a lot more guidance for her character. That's a good point.
Just setting up for that official isekai light novel coming any moment now.
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Falling behind on art, so just have these two comics for now.
Comic 97: The Big Mac Theory by ZSparkonequus on DeviantArt
Rescue ur horse by lilfunkman
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No disagreements here. Part of the issue is Starlight's village forgiving her during the song at the end of Cutie Re-Mark. They took probably the most interesting story they had at that point with her and resolved it with no dialogue over the course of like 10 seconds.
Across the board they've had powerful magic users' names have to deal with times of day and the stars. There's Starswirl, Twilight's parents Orion and also Twilight. There's Moondancer too. Her name is similar to Sunset because both of them are using the same naming convention as Twilight. Starlight being purple is apparently because they wanted her to look similar to Twilight as well. Sunset becoming the leader of the group and being the face of EQG just feels like something that sort of accidentally happened because they threw in the reformation line at the end of EQG 1 and had to have it go somewhere from there. In summary their names are similar because they're both trying to make a reference to Twilight, not because Starlight was trying to reference Sunset.
Upon reflection given Starlight's name and her intentionally similar color scheme to Twilight it makes me think that maybe there were earlier versions of her character that were a lot more similar to Twilight. Even in Cutie Re-Mark I don't feel like they were really drawing that many parallels between the two.
Yeah Twilight getting a student felt like a natural direction for her character to go, and probably the biggest problem with Season 4 as a whole is that the writers have no clue how to treat Twilight at that point and past season 4 most of their ideas were thrown out. Tangentally season 5 is when most of the major players in the current story started getting involved (Lewis+Songco Confalone, and Berrow all wrote their first episodes in Season 5, and that's also when Haber started taking over too) and so I feel like it was the start of the current storyline that the show is on.
It's like Sigma's dream picture. RariTwi and a Rapunzel reference all in one picture.
Lastly have some fluff:
It seems this rabbit hole is more friendly than it appears :-)
I enjoy good fiction! I just can't seem to pull myself to a book these days is all.
And wow, self-published and at a loss? That's dedication!
Because a lot of teenagers are lazy :-P Good luck getting yours to do the dishes!
Though I'd imagine Spike wouldn't have an issue with that by then.
Sylvee Great pic, gave me a nice squirm early in the morning!
Did you now! I want to hear your thoughts on it a bit more if you don't mind. I personally wasn't expecting the world but I was still disappointed quite a bit about how the film paced itself, as well as plot issues.
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Doesn't happen all the time, but I can't count the number of hardcover ponyfics I've seen pop up on my fingers anymore. Print-on-demand services make this sort of thing more accessible than it used to be.
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Thread for Them's Fighting Herds, the game that once upon a time was MLP: Fighting is Magic but was forcibly spun off into its own IP with the help of show creator Lauren Faust. It's finally coming out on February 22!
Spike is smart when the show allows him to be. He is Twilight's assistant, after all.
I view him as happily continuing to be Twilight's assistant, showing more snark and less of his childish side but still being devoted to her. But one day, as he grows larger, he'll grow antsy and decide to journey off on his own. He'd still visit, but he'll mainly be traveling the world.
For DRAMA, tie this to Rarity and the other non-alicorns dying of old age.
Spike is smart when the show allows him to be. He is Twilight's assistant, after all.
I view him as happily continuing to be Twilight's assistant, showing more snark and less of his childish side but still being devoted to her. But one day, as he grows larger, he'll grow antsy and decide to journey off on his own. He'd still visit, but he'll mainly be traveling the world.
For DRAMA, tie this to Rarity and the other non-alicorns dying of old age.
Just going to throw my thoughts out there: The movie is for the most part beautifully animated and does a great job at looking like a better version of the show's animation, although there's a couple spots that look lazy, mostly whenever they're trying to integrate CG into the shot. The shot near the end where Twilight descends with the staff in particular looks bad and to make things worse they linger on it for a super long time. Songs are some of Daniel's best IMO, with One Small Thing being my definite favorite. Story doesn't make sense in-continuity because a bunch of prominent characters that would definitely be doing stuff to protect Equestria are ignored. (mainly Discord, Starlight, the Changelings, Yaks, and Dragons) The new celebrity characters were all conceptually pretty good but in practice all of them besides Tempest barely had anything to do. They basically showed up, completed their character arc in 10 minutes, then disappeared until the final fight scene. Story in general was too unfocused and rather then focus on a couple characters and really flesh them out the story jumps around too much and most the stuff doesn't get the time it deserves. Tempest's arc was well done and she was definitely the standout character from the movie. Overall it could have been better but the animation and music make it still pretty enjoyable to watch.
Plot twist: Rarity becomes the princess of Generosity and doesn't ever die either, so he gets eternally cock-blocked.
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And this happens because Twilight doesn't want to see Rarity die and transfers her alicornity to Rarity. But then Twilight dies of old age, leaving Rarity alone, but Spike feels bad about going after her then, and his journey is so that he can one day become a dragon worthy of Rarity.
Right before he succeeds, he has a focus episode that makes him look like an idiot.
Videos
Decent movie song cover
Time to be Awesome - [MLP:FiM Movie Cover] - YouTube
Fluttershy cover of the Doki Doki Literature Club credits song. I also like the human Fluttershy design used in the video.
Your Reality (Fluttershy Cover) II Doki Doki Literature Club - YouTube
Art
1.Rock Solid Friendship by Theroyalprincesses on DeviantArt - Starlight, Maud, and Pinkie
2.{MLP} Fluttershy by NutellaAkaNutella on DeviantArt
3.Rainbow Dash by conbudou on DeviantArt
1.J u s + i c e — Sweater ponies~~~ - Applejack and Rarity
2.Comm: Chicken Empire by LiaAqila on DeviantArt - Scootaloo, Rainbow Dash, and Windy Whistles (Rainbow Mom)
3.Cinnamon rolls by JumbleHorse on DeviantArt - Limestone Pie
1.Synthwave Fluttershy by II-Art on DeviantArt
2.What's This? by Derpsonhooves on DeviantArt - Adult Flurry Heart and Sombra's horn
3.Hello There Friend by FluffyXai on DeviantArt - Fluttershy and a snake
1.more doodles by Slygly on DeviantArt - Pinkie X Rainbow
2.Luna, Sweetie Belle, and Scootaloo by oniku
3.fluttershy except that she's a lamp not a pony lol by VanillaGhosties on DeviantArt - A year old, but I only encountered it now
1.Coloratura by romablueberry
2.Happy Twilight GIF by latie
3.Synthwave Rainbow Dash by II-Art on DeviantArt
1.Synthwave Applejack by II-Art on DeviantArt
2."You have your own holiday! That's amazing!" Happy Rainbow Dash Day by dstears - And also Windy Whistles
3.Happy Rainbow Dash Day by ryuu - Main Six and Tank
1.Rainbow Dashes by ryuu
2.Hard to Be a Man When There's a Mare in Your Head by EmbersLament on DeviantArt - Pear Butter
3.Skypie by VanillaGhosties on DeviantArt - Pinkie and Skystar
1.We're Going on a Trip by midnightpremiere on DeviantArt - Starlight and Trixie on a rocket
2.limestonepie33 by kaikoinu on DeviantArt
3.Jetpacking by MomoMistress on DeviantArt - Twilight X Celestia
1.Derpy necklace by RacoonKun on DeviantArt - Also Twilight, as humans
2.Enoying the gala (Commission) by JonFawkes on DeviantArt - Fluttershy with some OC, as humans
3.Starlight and Sunset talking by JonFawkes - As humans
1.Luna by Haifisch_Ehrlich -- Fur Affinity [dot] net
2.Speed Moon by AssasinMonkey on DeviantArt - Luna
3.Red Princess by 1deathPony1 on DeviantArt - Luna
1.Sweetie Bubblegum by DANMAKUMAN on DeviantArt - Sweetie Belle
2.Carrot Cake? - 30MC by Empyu on DeviantArt - Sweetie Belle. Eat or disappoint?
3.Spider by Check3256 on DeviantArt - Rarity and Spider Twilight
1.Ephemeral Dove by Kpopjunkie on DeviantArt - SciTwi
2.Sunset as a Dog Furry by hiccupsthenoodle
3.Twilight Sparkle ( Update ) by Esther-Shen on DeviantArt - As a human
1.Apple Family by jirousan
2.Rainbow Family by yosixi
3.Rarity, Pinkie, and Applejack by yosixi
4.Fluttershy petting Rainbow by yosixi
1.BLASTOFF by nanook123 on DeviantArt - Starlight and Trixie on a rocket
2.Pinkie Pie_G5_Concept Art by Vale-Bandicoot96 on DeviantArt
3.Steampunk 1.0: Rarity by 0CrimsonAffinity0 on DeviantArt
1.Steampunk 2.0: Twilight and Spike [Finished] by 0CrimsonAffinity0 on DeviantArt
2.Captain Celaeno by tyuubatu on DeviantArt
3.Do.not.touch. by MagnaLuna on DeviantArt - Luna and Celestia. The Tantibus is Luna's mane in this AU, and it's male.
1.Luna s headphones by AlexBlueBird on DeviantArt
2.Gala Preperation by Scarlet-Spectrum on DeviantArt - Rarity and Tempest
Comics
This is a 14-page comic series about OCs, and it's cute.
Cover: For the Love of Nutmeg by LytletheLemur on DeviantArt
Fly Me To The Boom by bobthedalek on DeviantArt - Starlight and Trixie on a rocket
Nah man, Starlight discovers the key to Alicorndom and then goes full Syndrome and turns everyone into an Alicorn because if everyone's immortal, no one is. (Don't think about it) She succeeds in taking over the known universe but doesn't really do anything after that. Everyone's Alicorns though idk.
Not mentioned is the other 50 focus episodes he has that also make him look like an idiot.
This is a thing:
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Still pretty cool to see it happen, would have loved it if I could see my short stories on printed paper when I was younger!
I wholeheartedly agree with you. I thought the film was beautifully animated but the story didn't really hit any notes for me. Got the same favorite song, too!
I think the movie could have been a lot better if the Storm King could have gotten ten minutes to himself. Also wish the scene with Twilight descending down like a Zack Snyder directed film never happened too lol.
Really curious to see what the next film will look like.
SigmasonicX great art dump! Saved a lot of new favorites there.
I still need to get around to watching Rainbow Rocks, I will admit I've been a bit too into the story that Sciz posted a day or too ago.
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Somehow you keep channeling actual G3 stories.
The structure of the film makes a lot more sense when you realize it's their attempt at making an 80's style kids adventure cartoon movie, like those by Don Bluth and The Great Chipmunk Adventure. The issue is that this structure just doesn't work for the number of characters they have, and we know from leaks that they did notice structural problems with things like the Klugetown sequence (with Capper) but they had to lock it in by that point. Disney productions have years and years of preproduction for a reason.
I'm interested to see what they do for the G5 movie, though honestly I'm not that confident about the CGI part, especially with it coming out in just two years. Thankfully the show will be 2D, at least.
(insert GIF of pony feeling appreciated)
I kind of feel like it was a mistake to get into a story about Sunset actually developing before watching the real thing where she is just suddenly a new character, haha.
I haven't read that story myself yet, but if it's that addictive, I guess it's gone up on my list.
As Sigma kinda hinted at the next one is supposed to be kicking off G5 and is supposed to be CGI with celebrities voicing all the main characters. I'm hoping the actual show ends up using Toonboom like the G4 movie did though. Flash is good but I think it has a couple weaknesses (largely movement, which is a bit more evident in the EQG series then it is in the mainline one) and Toonboom would be better if they can have the budget to make it look good.
You don't have like 50 of those standing by?
I looked up "Twilight appreciated mlp" and this was one of the results. It looks like Starlight telling off Twilight for doing weed:
Yep somehow that keeps happening haha. (Definitely not nervous laughter)
I really like the smoothness of this guy's art:
(This character is supposed to be a nightmare version of Rarity, it's from one of the comics and is super popular for art even though most people don't actually read the comics)
Was always really impressed with Nightmare Rarity's design. Never really looked into the comics beyond the point she was revealed so I do not know how that all turned out. Was the arc any good?
As for the discussion earlier about Spike. He is effectively way beyond genius level considering he is a baby dragon and is at least on the same comprehension level of full-grown dragons.
As for the discussion earlier about Spike. He is effectively way beyond genius level considering he is a baby dragon and is at least on the same comprehension level of full-grown dragons.
I remember thinking it was alright back in the day but I haven't read it in years. The design still is cool as hell though.
We don't know how old he is other then that he's some amount younger then Twilight and that he's a "baby." (Although I don't think he's been called one in several seasons) Given that dragons are shown to be able to live for over 1000 years a "baby" might be anything under the age of 20. For all we know he could be in his mid to late teens and dragons might mentally mature way faster then humans. And Spike's maturity and intelligence level fluctuate from episode to episode as well to a much larger extent then most of the other characters on the show. For what it's worth none of the ponies or dragons have ever remarked that he's intelligent/mature/whatever for his age to my knowledge.
It might have been haha, but between work and other stuff it's easier for me to jump into a chapter than it is a movie during the weekdays. It helps that I find this fic in particular very enjoyable, too.
I'm always open for more!
When you put it that way, the movie's structure does make sense. Going to new lands, meeting new characters, all that good stuff. Dunno how I'll feel about the CGI, either, though I'm hoping for the best.
A problem I've seen in the mainline show is artifacting and aliasing issues on characters and objects, depending on the kind of scene (it happens between action scenes I've noticed). It's very noticeable at high definition and can get a bit distracting for me. If Toonboom were to resolve that, I think I would be very happy, especially since a lot of studios are finally moving from Flash.
Dunno how I feel about the use of celebrities for the voices, I think that might be a wee overkill.
Well just watched the first season 7 episode, but will describe my thoughts later, but for now...
From the just released episode of Death Battle featuring Black Panther against Batman (again), the next episode will be Twilight against Raven from Teen Titans. Don't see any connection beyond both being voiced by Tara Strong and using magic.
From the just released episode of Death Battle featuring Black Panther against Batman (again), the next episode will be Twilight against Raven from Teen Titans. Don't see any connection beyond both being voiced by Tara Strong and using magic.
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Oh shit, it's finally happening. Quoting myself from the thread for that video.
As for connections between Raven and Twilight, besides the VA thing, they both displayed extraordinary power when they were young that they had to learn to control. The difference is that Twilight was loved and supported all her life, while Raven wasn't. I think they'd see a lot of themselves in each other.
Who knows if they will feature the power Twilight had when she absorbed the Princesses' powers; likely not since that would fall under outside help.
Yeah, someone calling him a baby (I think Fluttershy?) might have been a weird inconsistency in the writing. No one really has treated him to be around the CMC's maturity levels before either now that I think of it.
Even back when MLP first aired back in 2011 the decision to use flash was a slightly controversial one because it has a reputation for being a weak program that is mainly used for shows that want as cheap of animation as possible. MLP consciously chose to use Flash over Toonboom at the time. I don't really know programs well but the big advantage of Flash is that actually making animation is a lot quicker, which potentially means that the resources could be spent elsewhere in the production such as creating new assets or something, I don't know.
Unless it's an episode where Raven is handicapped in some substantial way I feel like it's hers to lose. Granted I don't know Teen Titans that well but I was under the impression that she was by far the most powerful titan when she wanted to be and in the grand scheme of things Twilight isn't THAT strong. Most damning thing is probably that Twilight is extremely reliant on others and she won't be allowed outside help in the battle. Even ignoring her power boost from Twilight's Kingdom which happened because Celestia and co gave her their power, most of the time Twilight actually tries to solve things through her magic alone it ends up failing. (The most glaring example of this being Cutie Re-Mark) I would say that it would almost be out of the spirit of the core show if Twilight was able to do super well on her own and beat someone super powerful.
IIRC both Twilight and Fluttershy refer to him as a baby dragon in the pilot episode. Past that I can't recall any times. Spike's writing is inconsistent in general, which makes it hard to really guess his age because his behavior goes anywhere from young kid to a responsible adult depending on what the episode wants him to be.
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They emphasize him being a baby dragon in Owlowlicious's introduction episode, particularly with Twilight saying he needs his sleep because he's still a baby. I'm sure he gets mocked for being a baby dragon in "Dragon Quest" too. But yeah, other than that, they never bring that up.
I hadn't thought of it, but it's true that when paired up with the CMC, Spike is always presented as though he's older and more mature. He might even actually be physically older than them, since it doesn't seem like Sweetie Belle and Apple Bloom were born during the "The Cutie Mark Chronicles" flashbacks. And Ember certainly doesn't see anything odd about treating him as an equal. Even before she became nice, her issue was that he was weak, not young.
On another note, Hasbro earnings report shows that in 2017 Q4, franchise brand performance went up 11% with growth in MLP highlighted (compared to 2016 Q4?), and it went up 10% for the overall year.
Entertainment and licensing profit in 2017 Q4 made $57 million compared to $17 million in 2016. 2017 overall profit for that year was $96 million compared to $50 million in 2016.
That's all that appears relevant to MLP.