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MrRob

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Oct 26, 2017
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The talent in this thread is off the charts. I've been trying my hand at drawing political type cartoons. Maybe in a few months I'll be confident enough to share. I'm almost 40 and it's my first time trying my hand at drawing.
 

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The talent in this thread is off the charts. I've been trying my hand at drawing political type cartoons. Maybe in a few months I'll be confident enough to share. I'm almost 40 and it's my first time trying my hand at drawing.

Juat have to say I love reading this. Have you always had an itch to create? Or maybe your kid is jnto art and you got the bug from them? Always interested in reading how artists (even budding ones) get inspired to start.
 

TheGameshark

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Oct 27, 2017
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Recent study
 

MrRob

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Oct 26, 2017
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Juat have to say I love reading this. Have you always had an itch to create? Or maybe your kid is jnto art and you got the bug from them? Always interested in reading how artists (even budding ones) get inspired to start.

Thanks! I'll be honest the frustration and helplessness I feel with out current political climate led me to want to pic up a pencil and vent my frustrations by drawing caricatures of politicians I hate doing/saying stupid things. It's a cathartic experience for me.


quick one i just drew. gonna hide in tags so that way i don't outright assault the huge talent in this thread. if anyone has any tips to become a better artist i'm all ears!
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Bionicman

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'd like your opinion on something guys, I got into a debate with a friend of mine and student illustrator, he absolutelty refuses to use references of any kind, even tho he never even studied basic anatomy drawing.

I respond by saying that not using references isn't going to strenghen your drawing skills and that you're merely exercising your memory and that using references is essential to learning correct proportions, to expose yourself to a sea of ideas, to get inspired. But nothing it's like talking to a wall.

Another point is that he calls people who use tracing or grids for portraits cheaters and hacks, and I respond that grids and tracing are just another tool in an artists inventory, that there's more to drawing portraits than mere outlines and correct proportions.

So what is ArtEra's opinion on these two points?
 
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Tackleberry

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Oct 31, 2017
4,837
Alliance, OH
I was commissioned through one of my comic-con appearances to draw this nice girl's boyfriend with the TMNT as a birthday gift.

Couple pieces of photo reference for his face, and viola!
Marker base color, colored pencil and pastel pencil for detail and shading work.
About 4 or 5 hours total.

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Yerffej

Prophet of Regret
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Oct 25, 2017
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As You Wish.

Took an old charcoal I did and painted it in Procreate on iPad Pro.
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Tackleberry

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Oct 31, 2017
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I'd like your opinion on something guys, I got into a debate with a friend of mine and student illustrator, he absolutelty refuses to use references of any kind, even tho he never even studied basic anatomy drawing.

I respond by saying that not using references isn't going to strenghen your drawing skills, your merely exercising.your memory and that using references is essential to learning correct proportions, to expose yourself to a sea of ideas, to get inspired. But nothing it's like talking to a wall.

Another point is that he calls people who use tracing or grids for portraits cheaters and hacks, and I respond that grids and tracing are just another tool in an artists inventory, that there's more to drawing portraits than mere outlines and correct proportions.

So what is ArtEra's opinion on these two points?


Ok, this is from someone who does a LOT of likeness work...

You NEED reference. No one's mind is sharp enough to recreate the intricacies of someone's face perfectly from memeory. It will always be skewed.
If it's lightboxing, tracing out a basic shape, whatever. There's no "wrong" way to go about it.

I can freehand someones face enough to have it resemble them.. but it wont be right.
 

Loxley

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Oct 25, 2017
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My latest superhero, this time it's a little girl with AML leukemia and Down syndrome named Tess:

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Loxley

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I'd like your opinion on something guys, I got into a debate with a friend of mine and student illustrator, he absolutelty refuses to use references of any kind, even tho he never even studied basic anatomy drawing.

I respond by saying that not using references isn't going to strenghen your drawing skills and that you're merely exercising your memory and that using references is essential to learning correct proportions, to expose yourself to a sea of ideas, to get inspired. But nothing it's like talking to a wall.

Another point is that he calls people who use tracing or grids for portraits cheaters and hacks, and I respond that grids and tracing are just another tool in an artists inventory, that there's more to drawing portraits than mere outlines and correct proportions.

So what is ArtEra's opinion on these two points?

I knew kids like this in art college. A lot of young, fledgling artists go through this <annoying> phase where using any kind of reference material is viewed as some mortal sin. Usually it's because they're under the naive (and false) impression that their favorite professional artists probably don't use references and draw everything from memory. But I could practically guarantee you that as your friend gets older and becomes more experienced, he'll come to realize how important references are.

Unless they're an absolute savant like Kim Jung Gi, only a foolish artist doesn't use reference material, at least if they're genuinely trying to accurately capture a person/figure's likeness. I illustrate portraits of kids as my day job (see my post above) and I couldn't imagine trying to capture their likeness with any amount of accuracy without a reference photo to work from. I don't use grids, but that's only because my illustrations are stylized and I'm not looking to achieve 100% realism.

Now, straight-up tracing a photograph is certainly a more questionable practice. But even then, it depends on what you mean when you say "trace".

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Anyway, I made this for my Facebook page, just showing off the three main steps I go through when creating an illustration like the one I posted above ^^

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ArachosiA

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Nov 4, 2017
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I'd like your opinion on something guys, I got into a debate with a friend of mine and student illustrator, he absolutelty refuses to use references of any kind, even tho he never even studied basic anatomy drawing.

I respond by saying that not using references isn't going to strenghen your drawing skills and that you're merely exercising your memory and that using references is essential to learning correct proportions, to expose yourself to a sea of ideas, to get inspired. But nothing it's like talking to a wall.

Another point is that he calls people who use tracing or grids for portraits cheaters and hacks, and I respond that grids and tracing are just another tool in an artists inventory, that there's more to drawing portraits than mere outlines and correct proportions.

So what is ArtEra's opinion on these two points?
 

Skwerl

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Oct 28, 2017
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eh, as long as they own the rights to whatever the heck they are tracing, then that's fine. There are plenty of situations in the world where you cant trace your way out anyway....(and that's why I opted not to do things the easy way, just to be prepared when I have to paint something that doesn't exist and have it look convincing...)

As for references, it is more or less essential. Illustration is portrayal of the world/subject or whatever you call it. How do you describe something either visually, verbally or whatnot, WITHOUT STUDYING IT? It just doesnt work.

Maybe if he just go splatter paint on the canvas and call it a day, that might be the only exception...
 

Bionicman

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Oct 27, 2017
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Ok, this is from someone who does a LOT of likeness work...

You NEED reference. No one's mind is sharp enough to recreate the intricacies of someone's face perfectly from memeory. It will always be skewed.
If it's lightboxing, tracing out a basic shape, whatever. There's no "wrong" way to go about it.

I can freehand someones face enough to have it resemble them.. but it wont be right.

I knew kids like this in art college. A lot of young, fledgling artists go through this <annoying> phase where using any kind of reference material is viewed as some mortal sin. Usually it's because they're under the naive (and false) impression that their favorite professional artists probably don't use references and draw everything from memory. But I could practically guarantee you that as your friend gets older and becomes more experienced, he'll come to realize how important references are.

Unless they're an absolute savant like Kim Jung Gi, only a foolish artist doesn't use reference material, at least if they're genuinely trying to accurately capture a person/figure's likeness. I illustrate portraits of kids as my day job (see my post above) and I couldn't imagine trying to capture their likeness with any amount of accuracy without a reference photo to work from. I don't use grids, but that's only because my illustrations are stylized and I'm not looking to achieve 100% realism.

Now, straight-up tracing a photograph is certainly a more questionable practice. But even then, it depends on what you mean when you say "trace".

I ended up lending him one of my sketching from the imagination books, where every artist in it emphasizes references, see if that'll convince him.

As for tracing, what sparked that argument was me showing him one of my commissioned portraits.

I had 5 days to do this commission and the request was for it to be very precise. So all I did to save time and to be very precise was to trace the outlines, then I spent hours shading and doing the hair (still not done yet). Now to him that's called being a hack and a cheat, I challenged him to do the same then we just moved on from the subject.

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plngsplsh

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Oct 28, 2017
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I spend my Saturday trying to recreate Mae Borowski from Night in the Woods as a 3D model in blender. Here is the more or less finished result:

 
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C.B.

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Oct 26, 2017
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England
I have been gone for a hot minute but it's nice to see the thread filled with so many different faces!

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2 hour study from my last study stream. Since I didn't have a lot of time the accuracy isn't quite there so I ran with a more stylised look and focused a lot more on colours and brush strokes second. I've really been struggling between getting the right balance of noise and blend in my work recently and can't seem to find a happy place. Either way I think this study has certainly helped bring me back into some colour work and theories that I've also been neglecting for some time.

I'd like your opinion on something guys, I got into a debate with a friend of mine and student illustrator, he absolutelty refuses to use references of any kind, even tho he never even studied basic anatomy drawing.

I respond by saying that not using references isn't going to strenghen your drawing skills and that you're merely exercising your memory and that using references is essential to learning correct proportions, to expose yourself to a sea of ideas, to get inspired. But nothing it's like talking to a wall.

Another point is that he calls people who use tracing or grids for portraits cheaters and hacks, and I respond that grids and tracing are just another tool in an artists inventory, that there's more to drawing portraits than mere outlines and correct proportions.

So what is ArtEra's opinion on these two points?

Though I could probably write an essay about this, my short(ish) opinion on this is that for many, art is a way of pulling from the imagination and bringing that into some tangible form of "reality". You will do a much better job of it the more you understand the workings of reality around you. Understanding takes observing and studying - not just pulling shit out of your ass when it's convenient.

That isn't to say one could never work from imagination alone without reference; that can be fun, challenging and creatively liberating but he'll be doing himself a disservice if he doesn't. Using reference/studying isn't always about copying 1:1 either...
 

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Ahoy hoy, I'm Nicolai Kalmakoff. And I draw a bit. Mostly cute girls.

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I also do a bit of character design
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DM_Uselink

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Oct 25, 2017
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Los Angeles, CA
New page! Here's a couple of quick drawings for two games I won't get to play at launch. :(

Soon (I hope) I'll get to hunt some monsters and do some teleport kamehamehas!

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theBmZ

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Oct 29, 2017
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Lots and lots of talent in this thread. These are the pieces I'm most proud of.

Chloe and Max from Life Is Strange
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Alice Glass formerly from Crystal Castles
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Rey from Star Wars: The Force Awakens
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plngsplsh

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Oct 28, 2017
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I don't know if it's frowned upon to share one's twitter, but if it is, then please tell me and I will edit it out.

Anyway here is an animation I made as a kind of tribute to an hidden object found within Inside:

 
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CoolestSpot

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Oct 25, 2017
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capitalCORN

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Oct 26, 2017
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This thread finally convinced me to get out of my years long slump, and hopefully I'll stick to it.
Here's something I shat out this morning. I am sooooo rusty ;_;
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Edit: Another one over lunch.
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XaviConcept

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Oct 25, 2017
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These pieces made my day. Everyone here is fucking dope and talented, I'll definitely keep checking this thread out.

Thank you! I barely ever do weird funky colors so Im glad you like it :)

I've been taking little breaks at work to do some Dragon Ball fanart. Simple and flawed, but fun to make

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Epcott

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Oct 25, 2017
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Still proud of my acrylic painting of Ygritte the Wilding from GOT/ASOIAF
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Painting of my friends photo shoot

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And this recent acrylic I named, "In Bloom"

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Jintor

Saw the truth behind the copied door
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Oct 25, 2017
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do we have any 2d animators in house? I have some questions, I'm looking to get back into it.
 

Blairbat

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Oct 29, 2017
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Mine are not as professional because I am still learning. The first painting was my very first attempt at painting anything, so I probably made quite a bit of mistakes. I relied heavily on YouTube as I did not know how to paint rain, trees, clouds, etc.



I am really into post apocalyptic stuff, so my next attempt at a painting was this. Originally, there was going to be flying monsters in the air, but I could not pull it off.



This was my first attempt at character design. When I drew this, I had no idea on how to properly draw the Human body, or put armor on one either. So yeah, this is my redesign of a Halo Marine.



I hope these pictures are not too big or anything. I had a frustrating time trying to figure out how to upload pictures from my computer, as I have never done this before.
 

MattWilsonCSS

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Oct 25, 2017
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do we have any 2d animators in house? I have some questions, I'm looking to get back into it.
I guess this is a good opportunity to say hi to the thread. I'm a 2D animator that is self-trained and thus competent in some areas and badly lacking in others. Almost 15 years ago I made a cartoon called Bonus Stage for the web, before I knew how to draw. Now I'm a director at Pencilmation and I have my own channel on Youtube called Cartoon Drive Thru with multiple original series.

What do you mean specifically when you say 'get back into it'?
 

Jintor

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Oct 25, 2017
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I've fooled around with basically... photoshop gif making lol.

I wanted to ask specifically about one thing - I see a lot of twitter gifs for practicing animators where even on 'still frames' the lines of an image are still shaking and moving. Are those animators literally redrawing every single frame just to get that wavey line effect, or is it more likely that they're cycling two or three frames for those bits?

I've never done any formal training so I've not really got anyone to ask before.
 

MattWilsonCSS

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Oct 25, 2017
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What you're describing is a lineboil, and it does usually involve redrawing, but usually a loop of 3 drawings per pose. Some people get away with 2 (Ed Edd n Eddy often stuck with 2-drawing lineboils) but I've never felt comfortable going less than 3.

A friend of mine does 2 and it looks fine to me, his channel is Jaggy Lines and opts for the Home Movies style of 'squigglevision.'

Although it's important to note that Squigglevision, Home Movies, Science Court, etc. all used a computer program to 'squiggle' the art and it's never great when a computer does it. Similarly I've seen some people in Flash just duplicate a keyframe, click on the art, and then click on the straighten/round button one or twice to mess with the line width consistency. That usually looks pretty bad and I wouldn't recommend doing it that way.