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I could be showing my ass linking this as I cannot translate



But it seems relevant to that earlier image you posted.

This seems funny as well, because we all know hair is deadly



But again I cannot translate so sorry in advance if it says anything silly.

no you're right. the guy in your picture was also mocking the protesters.
 
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in an interview, a women's rights activist and lawyer, Nasrin Sotoudeh, who was also involved in the first girls case, confirmed that the girl in this picture, Narges Hoseini, was arrested. a bail has been announced for her but it's too high and completely disproportionate to the "crime". it's the equivalent of about 100k $. the lawyer has been asked by the girl's family to represent her and has agreed. if sentenced, Narges will be jailed for two months and has to pay a small fine.
Nasrin Sotoudeh, lawyer of Narges Hoseini (the girl in this picture who was arrested on the first day), has said that her client has protested while being fully aware of the consequences of her actions and has refused to admit regret (is that the right phrase?) which would have meant she could have been let go pretty easily.
she has been charged with three crimes, not wearing the hijab, [not sure how to translate the other two counts but here it goes] pretending to do something haram (sounds ridiculous i know) and promoting indecency (again, ridiculous).
the lawyer says the court's intention was to get her to admit to her wrong doing by promising her release, but she has refused the offer and still claims to be against the law of mandatory hijab, she has also refused to provide the bail, which is a ridiculous amount, close to 100k dollars.
she's 32, was studying to get her master's degree in social sciences and is actually a government employee.
sorry for the messy translation, can't really translate legal terms.

here's another picture of her

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Nasrin Sotoudeh, lawyer of Narges Hoseini (the girl in this picture who was arrested on the first day), has said that her client has protested while being fully aware of the consequences of her actions and has refused to admit regret (is that the right phrase?) which would have meant she could have been let go pretty easily.
she has been charged with three crimes, not wearing the hijab, [not sure how to translate the other two counts but here it goes] pretending to do something haram (sounds ridiculous i know) and promoting indecency (again, ridiculous).
the lwayer says the court's intention was to get her to admit to her wrong doing by promising her release, but she has refused the offer and still claims to be against the law of mandatory hijab, she has also refused to provide the bail, which is a ridiculous amount, close to 100k dollars.
she's 32, was studying to get her master's degree in social sciences and is actually a government employee.
sorry for the messy translation, can't really translate legal terms.

here's another picture of her

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Incredibly brave of her. I hope she sparks a long-lasting movement.
 

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Nasrin Sotoudeh, lawyer of Narges Hoseini (the girl in this picture who was arrested on the first day), has said that her client has protested while being fully aware of the consequences of her actions and has refused to admit regret (is that the right phrase?) which would have meant she could have been let go pretty easily.
she has been charged with three crimes, not wearing the hijab, [not sure how to translate the other two counts but here it goes] pretending to do something haram (sounds ridiculous i know) and promoting indecency (again, ridiculous).
the lwayer says the court's intention was to get her to admit to her wrong doing by promising her release, but she has refused the offer and still claims to be against the law of mandatory hijab, she has also refused to provide the bail, which is a ridiculous amount, close to 100k dollars.
she's 32, was studying to get her master's degree in social sciences and is actually a government employee.
sorry for the messy translation, can't really translate legal terms.

here's another picture of her

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What a hero.
 

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You have my sword! Or something. Good for them for fighting for their rights, I very much respect that. Hopefully they're also safe and no bad will come to them.
 
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a disabled woman protesting in tehran



this is Nasrin Sotoudeh, the lawyer of Narges who i mentioned earlier, and her husband

 
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No women should be forced to wear it, if they do so out of love for thier religion thats fine, and the correct application for it. But no, lots of muslims are against Iranian and SA implementation of it.
 
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probably as a response to the news yesterday, and after a few days of the movement dying down, today many people have come out to protest, many of whom wearing masks so as not to get easily recognized from pictures





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and this couple of clowns are mocking the movement and protesting against the right of a woman to choose

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the weird thing is that extreme type of hijab isn't common in iran at all, so she's doing it why? to say the current hijab isn't enough? the far right can be so vile

The depressing reality in a picture like that is also highlighted when the men standing around in the picture are dressed "normally".
 

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another picture of them. i think they're a couple.

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Ah okay, but that guy has some swish black jeans (they look regular fitting, not XXXXXXXL loose) and a black top, plus no head covering and what is undoutedly a balaclava only woren for this one stunt. The woman on the other hand? Yeah, she probably looks like that all the time in public.

Turkeys voting for Christmas.

Some ridicule being handed their way due to what they are mocking. They should not be mocking this.
 
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Ah okay, but that guy has some swish black jeans (they look regular fitting, not XXXXXXXL loose) and a black top, plus no head covering and what is undoutedly a balaclava only woren for this one stunt. The woman on the other hand? Yeah, she probably looks like that all the time in public.
yep, that's word for this. a mean spirited stunt
 

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These brave Iranian women are about to kickstart a new suffragette movement. When the revolution comes to Iran it will be lead by women.
 
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These brave Iranian women are about to kickstart a new suffragette movement. When the revolution comes to Iran it will be lead by women.
you won't believe it, but this is the most well organized, classy, peaceful protest movement that has ever been here. there are many times where people have come out to the streets to protest something (the economical situation, the existence of the regime even) but it has always been messy, at the coercion of iranians who live abroad, resulted in setting fire and breaking windows and stuff. this time a few girls are silently protesting their basic human rights, in a completely organic way, with no leader, and the government is terrified. the fact that they think this small piece of cloth is so important, and there are people copying this symbolic form of protest to mock the girls, shows how deeply effective this simple image of a girl standing on a box or a bench and putting the hijab on a stick and waving it is.
 

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you won't believe it, but this is the most well organized, classy, peaceful protest movement that has ever been here. there are many times where people have come out to the streets to protest something (the economical situation, the existence of the regime even) but it has always been messy, at the coercion of iranians who live abroad, resulted in setting fire and breaking windows and stuff. this time a few girls are silently protesting their basic human rights, in a completely organic way, with no leader, and the government is terrified. the fact that they think this small piece of cloth is so important, and there are people copying this symbolic form of protest to mock the girls, shows how deeply effective this simple image of a girl standing on a box or a bench and putting the hijab on a stick and waving it is.

It is also important to note that the children of the 1979 Iranian revolution are getting old. As they are on their way out, the millennials will take over and they are not going to have the same connection to the Islamic regime as their parents did. The revolution will happen, the question is when. How they are doing this so effective and peaceful is just inspiring and really shows that you don't need a bloody revolution to make change.
 
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It is also important to note that the children of the 1979 Iranian revolution are getting old. As they are on their way out, the millennials will take over and they are not going to have the same connection to the Islamic regime as their parents did. The revolution will happen, the question is when. How they are doing this so effective and peaceful is just inspiring and really shows that you don't need a bloody revolution to make change.
to be honest i don't think a revolution in the sense of the regime fully going away is possible any time soon. but i think the law of mandatory hijab changing is fully possible within the next 10 years if movements like these continue.
 

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to be honest i don't think a revolution in the sense of the regime fully going away is possible any time soon. but i think the law of mandatory hijab changing is fully possible within the next 10 years if movements like these continue.

Perhaps not completely, but events like this could easily become a turning point that makes the snowball start rolling to gradual changes that will lead to more liberties and freedoms for the Iranian people.
 
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Perhaps not completely, but events like this could easily become a turning point that makes the snowball start rolling to gradual changes that will lead to more liberties and freedoms for the Iranian people.
yes, if this succeeds, i can see people working towards many other goals that seem unachievable right now. actual freedom of press, the release of political prisoners, etc.
 

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Women around the world are burning headscarves to mark No Hijab Day, in solidarity with those forced to wear a veil.

A wave of angry protest recently erupted in Iran when women climbed telecom boxes and waved their headscarves from poles to publicly object to wearing veil .

At least 29 women were arrested for taking part, sparking an international public outcry.

Now women are sharing videos of burning headscarves with the hashtag #NoHijabDay, a reaction to last week's World Hijab Day event and the crackdown on women in Iran.

Anoud Al Ali, who describes herself as a bisexual, atheist ex-Muslim, posted a video of herself burning a hijab to social media with the caption "this is true happiness".

Ms Al Ali, who grew up in the United Arab Emirates but now lives in France, described the veil as a "symbol of oppression" and said that if she refused to wear it at school she would be given lower grades as punishment.

She wrote: "As promised, I did it on my birthday, it feels so liberating to burn the hijab.

"And I am doing that in solidarity to Iranian women who are protesting against the mandatory hijab and for all the forced girls.

"We are not candies or diamonds to be covered. We're humans."

Yasmine Mohammed, a blogger at 'Confessions of an Ex-Muslim', also burned the hijab in a video shared on social media.

Yasmine said that as a child, she was beaten for not memorizing the Quran and as a teenager, she was forced into a marriage to a member of Al Qaeda after he was bailed out of prison by Osama bin Laden.

As an adult, she said that she wore a niqab, and lived in a home which was really more like a prison with paper covering the windows, but she managed to leave and now wants to share her experiences to help other women escape opression.

She shared the video with the hastag #NoHijabDay and wrote: "In solidarity with woman who are forced to wear the hijab."

In the video she removes the hijab, shakes out her long, shiny black hair and smiles as she says "happy No Hijab Day".

She then lights the veil on a gas burner on the ground below her and calmly burns it.

As the veil burns she says with satisfaction: "Yes! Burn baby burn."

Ms Alinejad previously told the Guardian that Iranian police had arrested or sent to court nearly 3.6 million women because of having "bad hijab" by 2014.

Wearing a veil has been mandatory for all women over the age of 13 in Iran since since the 1979 revolution.

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while i personally do agree with their sentiment, i don't think this is the type of support the girls here want. the last thing they would want is someone from the right pointing to this and saying "see? they want to burn all hijabs and force our women to put it down". they're saying they want to have a choice, and there are women with hijabs protesting and supporting them. i see this as more counterproductive if anything, and i see this as all these woman having a lack of understanding as what these girls actually want.
 

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while i personally do agree with their sentiment, i don't think this is the type of support the girls here want. the last thing they would want is someone from the right pointing to this and saying "see? they want to burn all hijabs". they're saying they want to have a choice, and there are women with hijabs protesting and supporting them. i see this as more counterproductive if anything, and i see this as all these woman having a lack of understanding as what these girls actually want.

Fair enough, but irrespective of the right wing there has been a long tradition of Muslim women burning their veils when "liberated"

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...eing-freed-from-isis-manbij-sdf-a7173671.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...lamist-jihadis-state-deir-ezzor-a7596116.html

I think that is all the girls in the videos are trying to mimic, I doubt they are chasing right wing clicks. I mean, they lived under it

Yasmine Mohammed, a blogger at 'Confessions of an Ex-Muslim', also burned the hijab in a video shared on social media.

Yasmine said that as a child, she was beaten for not memorizing the Quran and as a teenager, she was forced into a marriage to a member of Al Qaeda after he was bailed out of prison by Osama bin Laden.

As an adult, she said that she wore a niqab, and lived in a home which was really more like a prison with paper covering the windows, but she managed to leave and now wants to share her experiences to help other women escape opression.
 
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Fair enough, but irrespective of the right wing there has been a long tradition of Muslim women burning their veils when "liberated"

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...eing-freed-from-isis-manbij-sdf-a7173671.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...lamist-jihadis-state-deir-ezzor-a7596116.html

I think that is all the girls in the videos are trying to mimic, I doubt they are chasing right wing clicks. I mean, they lived under it
they're wearing hijabs and burning burqas tho. and by right i meant the political right of iran, and i'm not saying they're chasing clicks, but that this'll be something used as a tool to [wrongly] say this is what iranian girls want as well. i do get that this isn't about the iran thing and a more general anti-hijab thing but saying it's in support of the girls in iran will do more harm than good. i can already see the headlines that'll be posted in iranian news websites tomorrow.
that girl has lived a hard life, such a sad story.
 

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I hope for the best. My time in Iran made it clear that the clerics in charge don't represent the will of the people in many ways. Even in Iran, society is slowly liberalizing, and I hope that will further erode Khamenei and his cronies' standing.
 
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someone has painted over one of the signs for "Hejab" street, a big street in tehran, to "optional hejab" street :)

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small pieces of paper scattered on a street in mashhad, the message says "the girl of enghelab street isn't alone, we are all girls of enghelab street." the girl of enghelab street was a title given to the girl who first protested over a month ago

 
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after many days, a new girl went on the exact same telecom box (the one i mentioned in OP), a HUGE crowd gathered around her, but she was unfortunately arrested. her name is Azam Jangravi. she announced her protest on her social media before she did it, and there are pictures of her protesting on her twitter, probably posted by a friend.

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What's the public discourse been like about the protests?
the majority obviously want it to become optional. there are far right people who troll/shit talk this movement on social media, and a few days ago was the anniversary of the revolution (the equivalent of 4th of july here) and there are parades and a lot of fundamentalists/far-right people had signs making fun of the girls from this movement. if there was a vote tomorrow and the results were correctly reported, those who vote for mandatory hijab would lose by a huge margin.
these girls are viewed by many as heroes, because they have the bravery that most of us simply don't have. they're risking a lot by doing a simple act of protesting. other than the far-right and the official government response to them (calling them drug addicts, influenced by foreign forces who are leading the movement from outside iran, and many other ridiculous claims) i think most view them with admiration, but there are those who think this won't lead to any change in the laws and therefore they're risking arrest for nothing.
 
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