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Deleted member 671 · Nov 2, 2017

MrLuchador said:
Is this RE6? I still haven't played it.

Yup. You can counter most enemy attacks in the game if you know the timing. Each character also has several character specific finishers. You can dive, dodge, roll, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUjmW5GgU_c

Watch this to get the basics before playing.

MrLuchador · Nov 2, 2017

Niiiiiiice! I can see why some people might have been put off by that, as it does seem 'different' to what you'd expect. I like it though.

Deleted member 671 · Nov 2, 2017

The biggest issue with RE 6 is that it doesn't teach you any of these mechanics. It's only after players found out or went to the Capcom main site http://game.capcom.com/manual/bio6/en/index.html that people started to get a handle on the mechanics.

Leo Sagittarius · Nov 2, 2017

MrLuchador said:
Is this RE6? I still haven't played it.

Indeed it is, Mercenaries mode to be exact, you and a buddy gotta keep killing zombies and get a combo going

Strafer · Nov 2, 2017

CrimsonCrescendo said:
The biggest issue with RE 6 is that it doesn't teach you any of these mechanics. It's only after players found out or went to the Capcom main site http://game.capcom.com/manual/bio6/en/index.html that people started to get a handle on the mechanics.

yeah, people these days dont wanna be readin no stupid manual.

BadWolf · Nov 2, 2017

CrimsonCrescendo said:
The biggest issue with RE 6 is that it doesn't teach you any of these mechanics. It's only after players found out or went to the Capcom main site http://game.capcom.com/manual/bio6/en/index.html that people started to get a handle on the mechanics.

True but to be fair most games with deep combat systems are like that and don't do much to teach the player in-game. Everything from God Hand and DMC4 to Vanquish.

Deleted member 9746 · Nov 2, 2017

Strafer said:
yeah, people these days dont wanna be readin no stupid manual.

To be fair, the game didn't even come with the manual, or did it?

Strafer · Nov 2, 2017

Pringles said:
To be fair, the game didn't even come with the manual, or did it?

Sorta, I have the PS3 version and the "manual" is just one page with the controls printed on :P

and the usual legal stuff

MrLuchador · Nov 2, 2017

Strafer said:
Sorta, I have the PS3 version and the "manual" is just one page with the controls printed on :P

and the usual legal stuff

I mean this is a topic for a new thread but I hate the new 'eco friendly' manuals. I miss the big old text books you used to get :(

BadWolf · Nov 2, 2017

Pringles said:
To be fair, the game didn't even come with the manual, or did it?

There are also some tips during loading screens but that's about it iirc, and they go by blazing fast in the PC version.

Leo Sagittarius · Nov 2, 2017

Metal Gear Solid series always had some kickass manuals

DHR54 · Nov 2, 2017

Always loved getting those manuals from MGS.

Speaking of manuals I always really had a fond spot for the Resident Evil 2 manual. Maybe cause it was my first legitimate Ps1 purchase and I couldn't wait to get home and play it. Read it so many times, always wanted the figures shown at the back.

MrLuchador · Nov 2, 2017

Yeah, I think that's it! I used to read the manuals on the way home on the bus/metro after buying the game from the shop. It just built up the anticipation even more. I miss those days.

Blackbird · Nov 2, 2017

Strafer said:
yeah, people these days dont wanna be readin no stupid manual.

To be fair, we're not talking about essencial mechanics and elements that makes the game literally unplayable if you don't use them, it's more about "you need to have that specific mindset, expectations and play in a certain way to get enjoyment out of it". RE6 is not a hard game to comprehend in basic levels, you can finish it and don't even use half ot it's core gameplay mechanics because basically you don't need to, if you just shoot and use melee attacks it won't punish you in any way. It's just less about people that didn't read a manual and more about of a less intuitive, megalomaniac ball of elements that just won't resonate with all players.

In most ways it's a title about presentation and low depth. It can be more meaningful and complex, but most of that complexity needs a unbalancing difficulty to finally have a purpose other than entertain. If you make a game that's basically a wrestling porn with point and shoot mechanics, i don't think that many people will try to do more than what is pleasing to watch on the screen.

News Bot · Nov 2, 2017

A few years ago after the HD release of Revelations, I messaged the game's translator Mark Reichwein about a major story mistake that implicated the "Global Pharmaceutical Consortium", the organization that founded the BSAA that Chris and Jill work for, as the villains. In the original text the terms "international pharmaceutical company" (a reference to TRICELL that is confirmed in Jessica's Report) are the only ones used, with zero resemblance between the kanji so this was less of a mistranslation and more of the translator thinking on the fly. This wasn't corrected in the HD release he claimed to have reviewed (apparently by not checking the translation, merely grammar).

Lo and behold, in the latest releases it has been changed. You're welcome Mark!

Deleted member 9746 · Nov 2, 2017

News Bot said:
A few years ago after the HD release of Revelations, I messaged the game's translator Mark Reichwein about a major story mistake that implicated the "Global Pharmaceutical Consortium", the organization that founded the BSAA that Chris and Jill work for, as the villains. In the original text the terms "international pharmaceutical company" (a reference to TRICELL that is confirmed in Jessica's Report) are the only ones used, with zero resemblance between the kanji so this was less of a mistranslation and more of the translator thinking on the fly. This wasn't corrected in the HD release he claimed to have reviewed (apparently by not checking the translation, merely grammar).

Lo and behold, in the latest releases it has been changed. You're welcome Mark!

Nice!

I was tempted to buy Revelations again when it released on PS4 but I don't think I could bring myself to play it again. Easily my least favorite title in the series.

BadWolf · Nov 2, 2017

Pringles said:
Nice!

I was tempted to buy Revelations again when it released on PS4 but I don't think I could bring myself to play it again. Easily my least favorite title in the series.

I'm never touching it again personally, easily the worst game in the main series.

Jawmuncher · Nov 2, 2017

I'm buying the Rev 1 and 2 collection just because I got a deal on it.

Zambatoh · Nov 2, 2017

Strafer said:
Sorta, I have the PS3 version and the "manual" is just one page with the controls printed on :P

and the usual legal stuff

Wait seriously? I just looked at mine and all I have is some legal mumbo-jumbo and an ad for Damnation and Retribution. There is no control guide.

Jawmuncher · Nov 2, 2017

Zambatoh said:
Wait seriously? I just looked at mine and all I have is some legal mumbo-jumbo and an ad for Damnation and Retribution. There is no control guide.

It was a later printing thing after all the bitching I think

StallionDan · Nov 2, 2017

Leo Sagittarius said:
RE5 becoming a co-op game was one of the best decisions Capcom made (If I'm not mistaken, I believe it was originally supposed to be a "Chris only" adventure.). It rekindled the nostalgia I had for scrolling Beat'em ups from the 90's where the co-op aspect was one of the highlights from that era.

One of my fondest gaming memories is when me and three other friends played the 4 player Arcade TMNT Turtles in Time.
With that said, please bring Outbreak back Capcom!

If you saw what was changed or cut to accommodate co-op you may change your mind. I think RE5 one of the best co-op games ever but what got left on cutting room floor is criminal.

Suede · Nov 2, 2017

Neo0mj said:
If I could only play RE5 or RE6 which one should I go for?

RE5, without a doubt.

Leo Sagittarius said:
RE5 becoming a co-op game was one of the best decisions Capcom made (If I'm not mistaken, I believe it was originally supposed to be a "Chris only" adventure.)

I thought it was one of the worst decisions they made. I followed that game from the beginning and it was looking so good when it was just Chris, his design was also much better before they changed it. I never wanted co-op in my Resi games, I wish they just made that an option rather than designing the game around two players and then forcing everyone to play with an AI partner.

Deleted member 9746 · Nov 2, 2017

Jawmuncher said:
I'm buying the Rev 1 and 2 collection just because I got a deal on it.

At least you're getting Rev2 out of it. I really should finish that one of these days.

Leo Sagittarius · Nov 2, 2017

StallionDan said:
If you saw what was changed or cut to accommodate co-op you may change your mind. I think RE5 one of the best co-op games ever but what got left on cutting room floor is criminal.

Oh I see... I was completely out of the loop regarding RE5's development back then, so I'm not entirely sure how much Capcom cut from their initial idea.

Embercase · Nov 2, 2017

CrimsonCrescendo said:
The biggest issue with RE 6 is that it doesn't teach you any of these mechanics. It's only after players found out or went to the Capcom main site http://game.capcom.com/manual/bio6/en/index.html that people started to get a handle on the mechanics.

It's true, but once you do find out and understand the mechanics the game is soo good. I put 250 hours into mercenaries alone, I love it a lot.

Dance Inferno · Nov 2, 2017

I'm considering picking up Revelations 2 on Switch, but I wonder how it plays on the system. My brother owns it on Steam so I could probably just play it via Family Sharing.

Weiss · Nov 2, 2017

The ReRev games are highly underrated.

Suede · Nov 2, 2017

I had a lot of fun with Raid mode on Rev2.

Deleted member 152 · Nov 2, 2017

I am planning to get it on Switch myself as want to do the Raid stuff on there and get a few games going with the community.

Jawmuncher · Nov 2, 2017

Weiss said:
The ReRev games are highly underrated.

Personally I think both Rev games are more highly lauded than they ought to be. Considering they're neither great horror or action games.
But that's none of my business though

Weiss · Nov 2, 2017

Jawmuncher said:
Personally I think both Rev games are more highly lauded than they ought to be. Considering they're neither great horror or action games.
But that's none of my business though

I suppose a fan of Dino Crisis would know about games that aren't good horror or good action :V

Embercase · Nov 2, 2017

Jawmuncher said:
Personally I think both Rev games are more highly lauded than they ought to be. Considering they're neither great horror or action games.
But that's none of my business though

May I ask what you didn't like about REV games seeing as I remember you saying you like the action REs like 5 onwards, and the REV games are more in the action category then horror. Not saying they were better then 5 or 6 but they were good action games for myself anyway.

Weiss said:
I suppose a fan of Dino Crisis would know about games that aren't good horror or good action :V

Sesha · Nov 2, 2017

Man, I miss Sheva.

BadWolf · Nov 2, 2017

Embercase said:

Man that attention to detail in the animation. The timing for the eye shift and head turn is so good.

Embercase · Nov 2, 2017

Sesha said:
Man, I miss Sheva.

I do too, can't wait until I do a RE5 play through again, its been awhile.

Deleted member 9746 · Nov 2, 2017

Sesha said:
Man, I miss Sheva.

Ditto. She was such a fun character! I love her accent.

TwinsUltra64 · Nov 2, 2017

Hello Survivors :)

Embercase · Nov 2, 2017

twinspectre said:
Hello Survivors :)

Suede · Nov 2, 2017

Weiss said:
I suppose a fan of Dino Crisis would know about games that aren't good horror or good action :V

I always thought Dino Crisis 2 was a really fun action game. I played through 1 and 2 last year for the first time since they came out and I really enjoyed them, especially 1. Still need to play 3, but I know it's meant to be pretty awful so I was never in much of a rush to play it.

twinspectre said:
Hello Survivors :)

Howdy.

Deleted member 9746 · Nov 2, 2017

twinspectre said:
Hello Survivors :)

'sup, stranger.

Deleted member 2317 · Nov 2, 2017

Jawmuncher said:
Personally I think both Rev games are more highly lauded than they ought to be. Considering they're neither great horror or action games.
But that's none of my business though

Seconded. I think it's a case of starving people being hungry, 'cause they're thoroughly mediocre to maybe-worth-a-rent-maybe.

Deleted member 9746 · Nov 2, 2017

afternoon delight said:
Seconded. I think it's a case of starving people being hungry, 'cause they're thoroughly mediocre to maybe-worth-a-rent-maybe.

I'm not gonna lie, the only reason I really like Rev2 is because Claire is in it. But on its own, I thought it was a fun game. I especially liked playing as Moira. lol

Deleted member 2317 · Nov 2, 2017

Pringles said:
I'm not gonna lie, the only reason I really like Rev2 is because Claire is in it. But on its own, I thought it was a fun game. I especially liked playing as Moira. lol

Yeah I despise Moira's writing so that was doing me no favors. When there's so many other incredible games to play, I tend not to dwell on those that turn me off so quickly.

Suede · Nov 2, 2017

I was dreading Moira going on the trailers, but she ended up being my favourite character in the game. I thought the game itself was decent, didn't like Rev1 very much so it was an improvement for me, and like I said before, Raid mode was a lot of fun, best thing about the game for me.

Dreamboum · Nov 2, 2017

I miss Leon and Ada's love story. Can we get a proper follow-up please ? It has been 15 years after RE2 now, can't they just exchange words ? There's so much to explore, and it kills me how relationships are in the gutter after 2. They just decided the characters will become immortal superheroes instead of evolving humans

sadistic_greyfox · Nov 2, 2017

I bought all of rev 2 and have yet to finish it, it seemed fun but it kinda just didn't pull me in. I would also LOVEEEEE more Sheva, she really is underappreciated.

With the choice of re5 and re6, I'd do 5 all day long, the combat is much more rewarding. Mastering Merc on Public Assembly made me feel like a pro lol.

Jawmuncher · Nov 2, 2017

Weiss said:
I suppose a fan of Dino Crisis would know about games that aren't good horror or good action :V

Embercase said:
May I ask what you didn't like about REV games seeing as I remember you saying you like the action REs like 5 onwards, and the REV games are more in the action category then horror. Not saying they were better then 5 or 6 but they were good action games for myself anyway.

For me it's just I prefer the RE games to do one thing and do that one thing well.
Like the only RE title atm that has managed to somewhat balance things is RE4 really.

Besides that every other game is far better sticking to what they do rather than trying to be this awkward middle ground. That has always been my biggest issue with the Rev games over something like 5 and 6. 5 and 6 might not be good horror games. But as action games they're very fun. Rev 1 and 2 on the other hand are neither scary nor ever reach the same action of those mainline titles. So they just kinda limp as "ok" titles and nothing more. For fans that are/were eager to go back to any sort of horror attempt I can see the appeal. But considering I felt Leon's campaign in RE6 was the weaskest since his earlier missions tried to do just that. You can start to see how I am with these things I hope.

I will say that in the general scheme of things. The lore of RE comes first for me. Which in that case I was very glad with how Rev 2 incorporated some fan favorites back into the fray. While also adding a new great character to the lineup. But still currently since I have to consider the whole package. I rank Rev 2 > Rev 1 > CVX as the lowest titles when talking "mainline". CVX is only the lowest because I feel it hasn't aged well at all compared to the PS1 games. While i'm not a big fan of RE7 I do rank it higher than those titles just because for the most part it basically sticks to it's attempt at being horror. Even when things get more actiony near the end. Which I can give it some props for over trying to appeal to everyone in the main game.

To me go all action or go all horror so you can make the best game possible. The middle ground just isn't a good fit for RE unless you got a legendary team and/or luck out (RE4)

Furisco · Nov 2, 2017

The shooting is so bad in Rev1 and 2. No enemy reaction at all and the weapons have no weight. It's kinda like RE6 but that game had a lot of things around it that made it fun to play (and the weapons still feel better than Rev but not as good as RE4 and 5). The Revelations games have nothing to make up to the lack of kick, impact and power.

Suede · Nov 2, 2017

Jawmuncher said:
I rank Rev 2 > Rev 1 > CVX as the lowest titles when talking "mainline". CVX is only the lowest because I feel it hasn't aged well at all compared to the PS1 games.

Which is your fave Dino Crisis, Jaw?

Manu · Nov 2, 2017

Jawmuncher's right tho. CVX has aged worse than RE2 or 3.

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