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Which game do you find holds the most replayability?

  • Demon's Souls

    Votes: 36 11.6%
  • Dark Souls

    Votes: 105 33.8%
  • Dark Souls II

    Votes: 44 14.1%
  • Dark Souls III

    Votes: 93 29.9%
  • Bloodborne

    Votes: 95 30.5%
  • Sekiro

    Votes: 17 5.5%

  • Total voters
    311

Kaiser Swayze

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Oct 30, 2017
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I got my platinum on Bloodborne, and now my life is empty.

Overall not the hardest game in the world to platinum, except getting to the chalice boss is a slog. There are aspects of the chalice dungeons I really like, and the general concept is sound, but so so so much repetition.
 

Squid Lord

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Nov 28, 2017
309
Just to add to last page's discussion about DS3 being unfairly difficult that it most definitely helped that I had played through Bloodborne first. I hadn't played Demon's and DS since they were first released, so I couldn't remember how they played other than the fact that they were some of the hardest games I had ever played up to then. Are there a lot of bullshit moments in DS3 and BB? Sure. But of course I didn't make it this far without embracing the cheese on many occassions! :)
 

Sub Boss

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Nov 14, 2017
13,441
Playing Dark SOULS III, it gets super hard in lothric but after high wall it gets easier again, i realized i don't like dying and dying again feeling like my character is super limited against even the most common of mooks because it starts to feel real tedious with hours wasted to make progress or lots of health to defeat a single enemy that gives you a little amount of souls.

I enjoy the 'peaceful'/easier moments as well were im progressing at a faster pace, its a damn good game but i wish the difficulty was a bit more 'balanced' (easier :p just a bit)

Also i feel like the knight doesn't block attacks with a shield when i press the button, there is a small delay and its frustrating
 

Chopchop

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Oct 25, 2017
14,171
As always, I miss 90% of the NPC quests in a Souls game the first time around- and Bloodborne is no different. Already can't wait for NG+ so I can actually interact with some of these ruffians! I miss them all the first time around.
I feel like missing NPC quests is pretty much guaranteed in blind playthroughs of Souls games. There are always a few quests that are super unintuitive.
 

xenocide

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Oct 25, 2017
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I feel like missing NPC quests is pretty much guaranteed in blind playthroughs of Souls games. There are always a few quests that are super unintuitive.

The shit is convoluted even if you know what you're looking for... "climb onto this random out of the way roof and jump through a window to talk to this guy before activating a bonfire after killing boss x but before pulling the lever to open up acces to boss y."
 

Red Liquorice

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Oct 27, 2017
9,063
UK
I think you have to tend one way or the other..
I forget if there's a neutral tendency, but it's worth tending to the Dark side for that mini boss with the bandages.
You can do all the black and white world and character tendency events in one playthrough if you're careful about not doing something out of order or dying outside the Nexus.

ArmsofSleep - There's an NPC and Black Phantom event in each world, unique weapons from those events and character tendency at pure black has a unique NPC questline too, iirc white character tendency just nets you a ring that's probably worthless now online is dead. Worth doing tendency events on a second playthrough imo.
 
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III-V

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Oct 25, 2017
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I got my platinum on Bloodborne, and now my life is empty.

Overall not the hardest game in the world to platinum, except getting to the chalice boss is a slog. There are aspects of the chalice dungeons I really like, and the general concept is sound, but so so so much repetition.
Congrats and agreed.
 

Noema

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Jan 17, 2018
4,904
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I just bought a sealed copy of DS3 for about $20ish. Considering it's $60 on PSN at the moment I picked it up without hesitation. I still regret not buying the Fire Fades edition when it was on sale during the holidays but this is not bad .

I still haven't played SotfS. I played about 15 hours of the 360 version of 2 a few years back but that's it. Should I play through SotfS before 3? I'd love to pick SotfS as well but it's $40 on PSN and I haven't seen a physical copy in ages .
 
Oct 28, 2017
2,343
Ive never played a Souls game before and just picked up Bloodborne for super cheap. I was wondering if anybody has any tips for a new comer, because i was having a real hard time understanding the "game loop." Also my build was started off as a all around character and then from there i am upgrading most atributes out side of the Arcane and Bloodtinge, which are at 9 now.
 

Red Liquorice

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Oct 27, 2017
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Ive never played a Souls game before and just picked up Bloodborne for super cheap. I was wondering if anybody has any tips for a new comer, because i was having a real hard time understanding the "game loop." Also my build was started off as a all around character and then from there i am upgrading most atributes out side of the Arcane and Bloodtinge, which are at 9 now.
The game loop? Do you mean dying and then everything in the level getting reset?

General advice is level up HP and whatever stat (SKILL, STR) your weapon scales with to increase the bonus damage, stamina isn't as important in BB as the other Souls games as it is very lenient with stamina consumption. You're right not to level up Arcane or Bloodtinge unless you decide to use weapons/spells that require these stats. Take things slow, explore - almost all levels have shortcuts and unlocks to make runs to the boss quicker. Finding a weapon you like the moveset of is more important than what weapon is "best" - they're all viable.

Don't worry about losing your blood schoes early on, a few hundred or thousands is chump change later on, but you don't want to be walking around in a new area carrying a ton of them any way, so spend your souls after a successful boss fight on leveling up or blood vials/bullets - the latter will lessen the need to farm for vials, especially early on when you might be burning through them.
 
Oct 28, 2017
2,343
The game loop? Do you mean dying and then everything in the level getting reset?

General advice is level up HP and whatever stat (SKILL, STR) your weapon scales with to increase the bonus damage, stamina isn't as important in BB as the other Souls games as it is very lenient with stamina consumption. You're right not to level up Arcane or Bloodtinge unless you decide to use weapons/spells that require these stats. Take things slow, explore - almost all levels have shortcuts and unlocks to make runs to the boss quicker. Finding a weapon you like the moveset of is more important than what weapon is "best" - they're all viable.

Don't worry about losing your blood schoes early on, a few hundred or thousands is chump change later on, but you don't want to be walking around in a new area carrying a ton of them any way, so spend your souls after a successful boss fight on leveling up or blood vials/bullets - the latter will lessen the need to farm for vials, especially early on when you might be burning through them.

Much appreciated. Yeah what i meant by the loop is just what i am supposed to do after a few fights, and when to visit the dream world, and i was also confused on how much i should be pushing forward through the world. This became especially confusing after i spent like 10 hours in the opening area lol. And having not played a souls game before, i was always under the impression that the game kept moving forward. The game is really structured in a way that isnt like any other game ive played before.

Im almost exclusively using the Saw Cleaver and ive leveled it up twice (Fortify?). I just recently killed the second boss and started what i guess is a quest line with the music box. Im starting to get the hang of it i think, and now the game is starting to feel satisfying. I would just hate for it to get too hard later on as i have a tendency to fall off games that are too frustrating.
 

Red Liquorice

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Oct 27, 2017
9,063
UK
Explore areas, kill bosses - that's how your progress. Go back to the Hunter's Dream whenever you've got business there - shop, level up, repair/upgrade weapons, warp to a different area etc.

Saw Cleaver is my favourite weapon for its versatility and ease of use, try using the transform attacks (L1) in or at the end of R1 combo strings, they are useful for crowd control because of the wide arc and have good push back on enemies.
 
Oct 28, 2017
2,343
Explore areas, kill bosses - that's how your progress. Go back to the Hunter's Dream whenever you've got business there - shop, level up, repair/upgrade weapons, warp to a different area etc.

Saw Cleaver is my favourite weapon for its versatility and ease of use, try using the transform attacks (L1) in or at the end of R1 combo strings, they are useful for crowd control because of the wide arc and have good push back on enemies.
If I hit walls with my sword will it damage it faster? I'm super paranoid in small spaces lol.
 

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Oct 26, 2017
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I don't think you need to worry about weapon durability very much so long as you visit the Dream once in a while.

Bloodborne is quite obtuse in this regard compared to Dark Souls games, all three of which start with a linear introductory area that ends with a boss.

(I've played BB only about halfway through- to me, it also seems to be the game with the least amount of narrative guidance in the beginning.)
 

Todesritter74

Member
Oct 30, 2017
327
So I just defeated
High Lord Wolnir
and used the souls gained to purchase the Tower Key.

Should I go to the Tower next or through the passage opened by defeating the boss?
 

DukeBobby

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Oct 25, 2017
3,930
Replaying Dark Souls 3 for the first time since release and getting my arse kicked by Champion Gundyr. I don't think I had this much trouble the first time around.

That goddamn shoulder charge...
 

Noema

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Jan 17, 2018
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Guys I made the Joker in DS3. I didn't plan for it; it just happened. I'm sorry.
 

Strafer

The Flagpole is Wider
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Oct 25, 2017
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Not that hard, all the pre-made characters look like The Joker.

From needs a better character creator.
 

Noema

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Jan 17, 2018
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Yeah, I feel like you go from porcelain mannequin to Nightmare Before Christmas just by tweaking one or two sliders.

But then again in this series you spent most of your game time as a mummified corpse inside a plated helmet so that's ok.
 

Strafer

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Oct 25, 2017
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They should just steal the creator from Dragons Dogma. Love the females and males in that game.
 

derFeef

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Oct 26, 2017
16,348
Austria
I should not jump between different Souls(like) games so quickly, playing them almost side by side, haha.
The Surge, Bloodborne, Nioh...
I like them all equally but that also makes it hard to make progress in any of them.
 

Vadara

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Oct 25, 2017
3,565
It is incredible how quickly you get through this game when you know what you're doing. I decided to roll a new character on DS1 for the hell of it and beat the Taurus Demon in like...20 minutes. I actually like how fast I roll and run a lot (I started as a Deprived).
 

Strafer

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Well there it is, just finished Bloodborne with the the so called true ending.

Not sure what to think really, I turned into something I never thought would happen.

Oh well.
 

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I still haven't played SotfS. I played about 15 hours of the 360 version of 2 a few years back but that's it. Should I play through SotfS before 3? I'd love to pick SotfS as well but it's $40 on PSN and I haven't seen a physical copy in ages .
Eh, SOTFS is not worth $40. Many locations are quite uninspired, the atmosphere is weak save for Majula and a few other areas, there are way too many enemies and enemy placement sucks, controls are not as satisfying as DS1. The lore can still be good and I like the lore, story and ending, and there's a pretty crazy amount of different outfits and builds possible.

Got to say that the DLCs are quite lovely though.
 

Vadara

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Oct 25, 2017
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WELP I killed O&S on my second try due to Big Ornstein killing himself by glitching through a wall.
 

Vadara

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Oct 25, 2017
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I mean, the fight wasn't even really as hard as people say it is anyway...just run away and let Ornstein chase you so you can wail on him while Smough's fat ass walks after you and the fight becomes a 1v1.

Also the infamous Anor Londo archers were so pathetically easy that I truly thought their infamous "difficulty" was just an ironic meme. Come on people, just run up to the right one and hit him like twice. I died exactly zero times to those two.
 

Strafer

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These Loran Chalice Dungeons are no joke.

Two bell ringing women summoning a ton of red spiders and get stunlocked to death.

nope
 

Jombie

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Oct 27, 2017
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I really don't understand the point of it. Most of the starting weapons are decent and it's not like you can't grab a good str, dex or quality weapon right away that can carry you through the entire game. Unless you're doing sl1, it literally doesn't matter what class you pick.
 

Morrigan

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Oct 24, 2017
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I really don't understand the point of it. Most of the starting weapons are decent and it's not like you can't grab a good str, dex or quality weapon right away that can carry you through the entire game. Unless you're doing sl1, it literally doesn't matter what class you pick.
I haven't watched the video but I assumed he meant "builds", or build archetypes, not the actual starting classes.... 'cause yeah if it's the starting classes that shit makes no sense lol.
 

Jombie

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Oct 27, 2017
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I haven't watched the video but I assumed he meant "builds", or build archetypes, not the actual starting classes.... 'cause yeah if it's the starting classes that shit makes no sense lol.

Watched most of it and that's basically what it is. He ranks the thief class last because of the bandit knife, as you have to be beholden to it for very long. But anyone will eat up anything souls-related he puts on youtube..

On a side note: I got a PS4 Pro and goddamn does DS3 play sooo much better. It doesn't hit 60 fps or anything but it's a significant difference. I've always sucked at parrying in 3 and I was hitting all of them on the pro, even against enemies I rarely get parries against. I think the texturing is better too, but could be wrong about that.
 

Red Liquorice

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Oct 27, 2017
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I really don't understand the point of it. Most of the starting weapons are decent and it's not like you can't grab a good str, dex or quality weapon right away that can carry you through the entire game. Unless you're doing sl1, it literally doesn't matter what class you pick.
I only watch ENB on YT not on twitch, but I think he's been doing casual DS1 runs with each class, and this is just follow on thoughts from that on which classes starting gear is best to use throughout the game, without switching to other weapons or armour. I think it's also a bit of a tongue in cheek dig at some other Souls YTers who churn out these kind of videos.
 

Todesritter74

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Oct 30, 2017
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Went back to Cathedral of the Deep that I passed by. I really liked the level design only to be let down by the ease of the boss.