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GeekyDad

Banned
Nov 11, 2017
1,689
USA
The controls are jank, to be fair. Dragon's Dogma has some similar weapon using classes with much better combat.

I don't think the controls are jank at all. I mean, maybe the PSP games, sure, but on 3DS, Wii U and elsewhere, the games play great. I've never played Dragon's Dogma, but if I'm not mistaken, you're kinda comparing apples and oranges. Isn't DD an RPG more along the lines of Demon's Souls? I'm really not too familiar with it. But the MH games are exactly what they say they are: hunting games. The combat is not going to be hack-n-slash -- it's not meant to be. And monsters aren't going to be defeated in 30 seconds; they're meant to be hunted, which is why you're typically given about 50 minutes to complete quests. Totally different dynamics from the games most people try to compare MH to.
 

StallionDan

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,705
I don't think the controls are jank at all. I mean, maybe the PSP games, sure, but on 3DS, Wii U and elsewhere, the games play great. I've never played Dragon's Dogma, but if I'm not mistaken, you're kinda comparing apples and oranges. Isn't DD an RPG more along the lines of Demon's Souls? I'm really not too familiar with it. But the MH games are exactly what they say they are: hunting games. The combat is not going to be hack-n-slash -- it's not meant to be. And monsters aren't going to be defeated in 30 seconds; they're meant to be hunted, which is why you're typically given about 50 minutes to complete quests. Totally different dynamics from the games most people try to compare MH to.

In DD you go out and kill big monsters using real time action combat, same as in MH. You can cut or break parts off enemies. The combat is totally comparable.

The fact MH enemies have more health doesn't excuse the jank combat it uses. It's still basing its mechanics on a game created two console generations ago, and it shows.
 

Waddle Dee

Banned
Nov 2, 2017
3,725
California
In DD you go out and kill big monsters using real time action combat, same as in MH. You can cut or break parts off enemies. The combat is totally comparable.

The fact MH enemies have more health doesn't excuse the jank combat it uses. It's still basing its mechanics on a game created two console generations ago, and it shows.

That's what I'm feeling. It feels like a game from 2006 on the PSP. I'm not expecting DMC combat or anything. The combat simply lacks "oomph" and nuance. You have a small pool of moves (not enough considering how long fights are) and I didn't feel like I was really connecting with the enemy outside of using hammers. It felt sloppy.

Don't even get me started on using long range weapons. I don't even understand how a development team in 2017/18 could get the controls and feeling so wrong unless they've refused to play other games not made by themselves, so they had no point of reference... which I'm nearly convinced is the case since it's that embarrassingly bad.
 

Gunslinger

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,401
So apparently according to info on 4chan RE2 Remake is a tps like 4,5,6? ewwwwwww.....People are apparently attacking the director on twitter based on this leak and he told them to go complain to capcom and not him.
 

ArkkAngel007

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
5,001
So apparently according to info on 4chan RE2 Remake is a tps like 4,5,6? ewwwwwww.....People are apparently attacking the director on twitter based on this leak and he told them to go complain to capcom and not him.

Nothing wrong with that player perspective. Ammo could be easily balanced to account for ease of headshots/possible counters and more zombies for that and to keep things tense despite the easier movement.

Going crazy action route with it would be a mistake though. Leon and Claire aren't superheroes. He's a rookie cop who can't even wake up on time and she is another character's 'kid' sister. It would devalue a lot of what made RE2 beloved if they were always in super Saiyan mode.
 
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Jawmuncher

Jawmuncher

Crisis Dino
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
38,548
Ibis Island
Yeah I don't understand why people think OTS must mean "action, action, action". It's an angle. I promise you leon will not be sliding, countering, and throwing zombies over his head. As cool as that'd be.
 

Furisco

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Oct 25, 2017
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Jawmuncher's ideal Resident Evil 2 Remake.
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Naw, this is the ideal RE 2 remake

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Damn, Monster Hunter is so good. Let's hope Capcom can keep this string of hits with a great REmake 2.

Naw, this is the ideal RE 2 remake

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Encephalon

Member
Oct 26, 2017
5,857
Japan
I picked up the Source Next version of RE2 so that I could have a version of the game with extra difficulty modes that didn't force me to use the Dreamcast controller. It appears to be more or less identical to the Dreamcast version, but the visuals might be a little closer to the Playstation version. There are no options and it runs windowed, with apparently no option to run it full screen.

Anyways, the Capcom and Source Next logo FMV played properly the first time, but upon booting the game the opening FMV runs in the upper left hand corner of the window and appears to be partially cut off. Upon booting the game again, now the aforementioned FMV now also play shrunk. Running the game in Windows XP compatibility mode didn't seem to help. Hmm.

The game runs though!

Edit: It looks like the game received a patch that Capcom no longer hosts on their website. But the patch appears to be for Direct X errors I'm not getting.
 
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Supreme Allah

Banned
Nov 2, 2017
301
Finished both Banned Footage.

Liked:
Bedroom
21
Daughters

Disliked:
Ethan Must Die
Nightmare
Jack's 55th Birthday

Those I liked should have been tapes in the main game and they should have skipped the
boat/salt mine
parts. Those three I disliked were a waste of time and shouldn't have existed together with the season pass.
 
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Jawmuncher

Jawmuncher

Crisis Dino
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
38,548
Ibis Island
I picked up the Source Next version of RE2 so that I could have a version of the game with extra difficulty modes that didn't force me to use the Dreamcast controller. It appears to be more or less identical to the Dreamcast version, but the visuals might be a little closer to the Playstation version. There are no options and it runs windowed, with apparently no option to run it full screen.

Anyways, the Capcom and Source Next logo FMV played properly the first time, but upon booting the game the opening FMV runs in the upper left hand corner of the window and appears to be partially cut off. Upon booting the game again, now the aforementioned FMV now also play shrunk. Running the game in Windows XP compatibility mode didn't seem to help. Hmm.

The game runs though!

Edit: It looks like the game received a patch that Capcom no longer hosts on their website. But the patch appears to be for Direct X errors I'm not getting.

There's a fan patch for those ports I believe. Since I know a lot of speedrunners use them even on newer machines.
 

Suede

Gotham's Finest
Member
Oct 28, 2017
12,527
Scotland
Is the dreamcast added difficulty on RE2 even really hard. Always wondered about it.
I can't remember if I've ever played it or not, I think it was called Nightmare difficult right? I think it makes ammo and healing items far more scarce. Enemies deal far more damage too. I think I tried it once before, not really a fan of making the game stupidly hard though.

i got a copy of biohazard saturn and a sealed copy in the mail today =) (triple crosspost)
Very nice. I totally missed out on the Saturn sadly.
 

Deleted member 1162

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Oct 25, 2017
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I can't remember if I've ever played it or not, I think it was called Nightmare difficult right? I think it makes ammo and healing items far more scarce. Enemies deal far more damage too. I think I tried it once before, not really a fan of making the game stupidly hard though.

Very nice. I totally missed out on the Saturn sadly.
it's not too late! you still have time to get into Saturn =) just avoid the super expensive USD titles and it's pretty ok budget wise. most of those titles in the pic were 800-2200yen. only one was pricey: thunder force V and the next expensive was dondonpachi at 4500yen, which i think is still pretty cheap.
 

yungronny

Banned
Nov 27, 2017
1,349
Finally giving 0 an actual try. This game is so weird. I like the idea of the partner system but having them follow feels off. Like I don't really want them to use up my ammo but otherwise they just stand there. At least Billy is a stud.