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Which game do you find holds the most replayability?

  • Demon's Souls

    Votes: 36 11.6%
  • Dark Souls

    Votes: 105 33.8%
  • Dark Souls II

    Votes: 44 14.1%
  • Dark Souls III

    Votes: 93 29.9%
  • Bloodborne

    Votes: 95 30.5%
  • Sekiro

    Votes: 17 5.5%

  • Total voters
    311

Jombie

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,392
Gimmick bosses are okay if you spread them out, but there's too many early on. Crystal Sage, Deacons, Wolnir and all of them terrible. Crystal Sage feels incredibly out-of-place.
 

Vadara

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,565
Gotta move out of the house, my mom thinks Dark Souls is gonna turn me into a murdering satanist lol

I don't even wanna know what she'd think of Bloodborne :P
 

JLP101

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,745
I am about half way through Dark Souls 3 and this game is REALLY starting to grow on me. If the game can keep up this level of quality it will be my favorite Souls Game. The entire series is starting to become my favorite series. Dark Souls 1, for all its strengths and weaknesses didn't really do all that much for me. I heard that Dark Souls 2 was not very good but I loved it. So when Dark Souls 3 is in the humble monthly bundle I purchased it without hesitation. Dark Souls 3 level design is some of the best I seen in a very long time.
 

Van Bur3n

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
26,089
Gimmick bosses are okay if you spread them out, but there's too many early on. Crystal Sage, Deacons, Wolnir and all of them terrible. Crystal Sage feels incredibly out-of-place.

Out of place in what way? Lore wise, I think it makes sense. I can't really think of any other way for the Sage to be out of place. I think the early game bosses are decent enough, being the early game and all. The game gradually builds up in difficulty like any good video game. Dark Souls 3 is probably the most consistent in its boss quality. There is a good balance of weaker and stronger bosses throughout the entire game. Much unlike DS1 where it takes a steep dive downhill after the half way point, or BB where the quality of bosses slowly decline after Amelia. And DS2 is, uh, well, they're all just forgettable save for a few.
 

Jombie

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,392
I understand from a lore perspective, it just looks strange in the environment that the encounter takes place in, though I guess that doesn't matter too much. I'd rather it just not been there at all.

My biggest problem with the bosses at the beginning isn't really that they're gimmick fights but they're incredibly easy and dull. Abyss Watchers is a gimmick fight too, but at least it's interesting and fun, albeit still a little too easy.
 

Red Liquorice

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,075
UK
I think the Crystal Sage would look better in a darker environment.

All these boss fights are a-ok with me though, I like Crystal Sage, Wolnir, Deacons. I enjoy the variety.
 

xenocide

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,307
Vermont
I am about half way through Dark Souls 3 and this game is REALLY starting to grow on me. If the game can keep up this level of quality it will be my favorite Souls Game. The entire series is starting to become my favorite series. Dark Souls 1, for all its strengths and weaknesses didn't really do all that much for me. I heard that Dark Souls 2 was not very good but I loved it. So when Dark Souls 3 is in the humble monthly bundle I purchased it without hesitation. Dark Souls 3 level design is some of the best I seen in a very long time.

A lot of the criticisms of Dark Souls games comes long after they launched. I recently beat Dark Souls 2 and it was a great game. It had some really annoying aspects, but it's not the crap game you'd expect from opinions you hear around--it did have like a 91 on Metacritic or some shit, the highest of any Souls game. Dark Souls 3 is still my favorite. It feels like the most refined Souls game (full disclosure, I'm waiting for the remaster to play DS1) I have played, and definitely seems to have the most on point mechanics.
 

Strafer

The Flagpole is Wider
Member
Oct 25, 2017
29,377
Sweden
People will shit on Dark Souls 2 until the end of time which is sad because it's a great game, prefer it over 3.
 

DukeBobby

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,930
I think the Crystal Sage would look better in a darker environment.

All these boss fights are a-ok with me though, I like Crystal Sage, Wolnir, Deacons. I enjoy the variety.

For me, Wolnir is just a waste of a really cool looking boss. It would be fine if attacking the bracelets was just its first phase, but that's the entire fight. It can be over in a minute if your weapon is strong enough.
 

Red Liquorice

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,075
UK
For me, Wolnir is just a waste of a really cool looking boss. It would be fine if attacking the bracelets was just its first phase, but that's the entire fight. It can be over in a minute if your weapon is strong enough.
I wouldn't disagree with that. I remember on my first plathrough enjoying the boss a lot because of the great design and also I thought it was the best iteration yet of the Dragon God/Bed of Chaos type boss fight.
 

DorkLord54

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,466
Michigan
Yeah, the only great boss in the first half of Dark Souls 3 is the Abyss Watchers. Iudex Gundyr and Vordt are okay, but the rest are pretty poor.
I don't get the love for the Abyss Watchers. They're basically a poor man's Lady Maria.

And I actually kinda like how easy the first Gundyr fight is, since it lulls people into a false sense of security during the first half of the rematch, before promptly beating your ass in the second.
Out of place in what way? Lore wise, I think it makes sense. I can't really think of any other way for the Sage to be out of place. I think the early game bosses are decent enough, being the early game and all. The game gradually builds up in difficulty like any good video game. Dark Souls 3 is probably the most consistent in its boss quality. There is a good balance of weaker and stronger bosses throughout the entire game. Much unlike DS1 where it takes a steep dive downhill after the half way point, or BB where the quality of bosses slowly decline after Amelia. And DS2 is, uh, well, they're all just forgettable save for a few.
BB's second half is saved by the trio of Logarius, Ebrietas, and Gehrman, bosswise (along with OH).
 
Oct 28, 2017
2,349
I have a question in regards to Bloodborne. I just heard through the grapevine that the more insight you have the harder the game gets. Im at the Blood Moon phase in the game and currently have 49 insight. Should i spend it? This is my first souls game, so bare with me. Im new.
 

Jombie

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,392
I have a question in regards to Bloodborne. I just heard through the grapevine that the more insight you have the harder the game gets. Im at the Blood Moon phase in the game and currently have 49 insight. Should i spend it? This is my first souls game, so bare with me. Im new.

There's a couple of trivial changes, but doesn't make the game harder. It does give you less frenzy resist; other than that - spend away.
 

Strafer

The Flagpole is Wider
Member
Oct 25, 2017
29,377
Sweden
I have a question in regards to Bloodborne. I just heard through the grapevine that the more insight you have the harder the game gets. Im at the Blood Moon phase in the game and currently have 49 insight. Should i spend it? This is my first souls game, so bare with me. Im new.

Save at least 60 insight, you will be able to buy a Blood Rock at the insight shop.
 

gosublime

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,432
I have a question in regards to Bloodborne. I just heard through the grapevine that the more insight you have the harder the game gets. Im at the Blood Moon phase in the game and currently have 49 insight. Should i spend it? This is my first souls game, so bare with me. Im new.

As Strafer said, save it for a blood rock. You can buy from the Insight shop after beating a certain boss and unless you go hunting through Chalice dungeons, there is only one other in the game - which you might miss! It means you'll be able to Fortify two weapons to +10 and if you are at the Blood Moon phase with 49, you should be able to get to 60. The only difference it makes to difficulty is that Church Doctors (dudes with cross kind of weapons who wear white robes, moan a lot and are easy to parry) have some buffs on their weapons and if you go back to Hemwick Charnel Lane, some Mad Ones (thin guys with bad hair and scythes) will spawn in some locations. Aside from that, the changes are pretty minor.
 

Red Liquorice

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,075
UK
There's really no need to hang on to it, spend it on the armour sets, bolt paper etc. It's worth ditching it just for the frenzy resist alone.
 

Van Bur3n

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
26,089
I don't get the love for the Abyss Watchers. They're basically a poor man's Lady Maria.

And I actually kinda like how easy the first Gundyr fight is, since it lulls people into a false sense of security during the first half of the rematch, before promptly beating your ass in the second.

BB's second half is saved by the trio of Logarius, Ebrietas, and Gehrman, bosswise (along with OH).

Logarius and Gehrman, sure. But I never understood the praise Ebrietas got. She swings some tentacles around and smashes her face into the floor for a minute and half and then she is dead. I remember on my first playthrough all I did was get behind her and she was helpless. Was pretty disappointed.

But yeah, Old Hunters makes up for the second half of BB stupendously. Hands down the best bosses of the whole franchise.
 
Oct 25, 2017
26,923
Executioner's Chariot down:

What is the deal with the NPC that you find in this area? I can talk to him, but then he pretty much tells me to leave.
 

Nephilim

Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,282
Purchased the season pass for DS3 yesterday and i love Dark Souls and all, but why do i have no ingame notification how to access the new areas?
Don't remember if Bloodborne had something like a notification for the DLC in order to access it without looking for help in the web.
 

gosublime

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,432
Purchased the season pass for DS3 yesterday and i love Dark Souls and all, but why do i have no ingame notification how to access the new areas?
Don't remember if Bloodborne had something like a notification for the DLC in order to access it without looking for help in the web.

No Souls game yet has had an in game notification - part of the mystery. If you haven't played the game much, you can't miss the area where either DLC begins. Bloodborne gave you the Eye of Blood-drunk Hunter in the Dream, but you then had to work out where to use it.
 

Strafer

The Flagpole is Wider
Member
Oct 25, 2017
29,377
Sweden
Speaking of Blood Rock, is it worth farming depth 5 dungeons for a chance at a rock?

I really wish there was a dupe glitch, I understand having to make a choice on what weapon to max but man, come on. I guess you can buy for 60 insigt but that takes an ridiclous amount of farming.

Or at least sell them for like 1 000 000 blood echoes each
 

ArmsofSleep

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
7,833
Washington DC
Logarius and Gehrman, sure. But I never understood the praise Ebrietas got. She swings some tentacles around and smashes her face into the floor for a minute and half and then she is dead. I remember on my first playthrough all I did was get behind her and she was helpless. Was pretty disappointed.

But yeah, Old Hunters makes up for the second half of BB stupendously. Hands down the best bosses of the whole franchise.


The Old Hunters has

- Some of the coolest looking areas in the series (Research Hall, Astral Clocktower, Fishing Hamlet)
- Some of the coolest lore in the series (OoK washing up on the shore of the hamlet, the experiments happening at the Research Hall)
- Ludwig, Maria, Laurence, and Orphan of Kos, four of the best bosses in the entire franchise
- Cool characters like Simon and Yamamura
- Awesome new weapons (the Whirligig Saw and Kos Parasite being the obvious highlights)

Best DLC in the series easily. One of the best DLCs ever.
 
Oct 25, 2017
26,923
The Old Hunters has

- Some of the coolest looking areas in the series (Research Hall, Astral Clocktower, Fishing Hamlet)
- Some of the coolest lore in the series (OoK washing up on the shore of the hamlet, the experiments happening at the Research Hall)
- Ludwig, Maria, Laurence, and Orphan of Kos, four of the best bosses in the entire franchise
- Cool characters like Simon and Yamamura
- Awesome new weapons (the Whirligig Saw and Kos Parasite being the obvious highlights)

Best DLC in the series easily. One of the best DLCs ever.
How can one mention awesome new weapons and not mention the Bloodletter?
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
Member
Oct 24, 2017
34,361
How can one mention awesome new weapons and not mention the Bloodletter?
Rakuyo though

Cool design, but probably my least favorite Bloodborne boss. The camera is a bastard, and there's no good place to lock on. It resulted in too many whiffs when I should have been in a good position to land a hit.
If locking on you should always, always lock-on to the head. Sometimes it's necessary to lock-off and manually adjust/reposition but only lock on to the head and stay in front of it. Bait its attacks, after it's tone trashing about or doing whatever it does, the head lowers for a 2 second or so window and you can get 1 or 2 hits on it. Rinse repeat, you'll get a visceral opportunity on the head at some point too.

If you do that you should get consistent hits.
 

Todesritter74

Member
Oct 30, 2017
327
Speaking of Blood Rock, is it worth farming depth 5 dungeons for a chance at a rock?

I really wish there was a dupe glitch, I understand having to make a choice on what weapon to max but man, come on. I guess you can buy for 60 insigt but that takes an ridiclous amount of farming.

Or at least sell them for like 1 000 000 blood echoes each
You should be able to find a dungeon code that will guarantee a Blood Rock instead of farming for a chance.
 

Ferrs

Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
18,829
I can't believe they haven't even shown yet a single screenshot of Dark Souls Remastered.
 
Oct 25, 2017
26,923

I watch his vids while eating dinner and he had like no fun doing the Pyro and Sorcerer builds.
I only watch ENB on YT not on twitch, but I think he's been doing casual DS1 runs with each class, and this is just follow on thoughts from that on which classes starting gear is best to use throughout the game, without switching to other weapons or armour. I think it's also a bit of a tongue in cheek dig at some other Souls YTers who churn out these kind of videos.
The basis for these vids is that he's been using nothing but the stuff that comes with the starting build. No rings, no dropping armor, no new weapons, nothing but what comes with the build. He's been beating the game in under three hours for these runs, he's done a bunch. Some have drove him crazy-ish.
 

Van Bur3n

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
26,089
I really like the Burial Blade transformation animation.

What are your guys favorite?

It's between Church Pick, Blade of Mercy, and Bloodletter. Church Pick because it's stupidly powerful and has an awesome stake appearance that I can imagine being perfect for killing beasts. The other two for the interesting builds they have to offer, demanding you to play a bit more differently than you typically would. I remember when I used Rakuyo the first time, I thought it was better than BoM in every way. One day I got bored of Rakuyo and went back to BoM and I've never looked back. Amazingly fun weapon.
 

Vadara

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,565
MP in DS1 is such a hassle :/

There really should be an item that lets you remain susceptible to invasions even after beating the boss and I should be able to see red soul signs even if I've killed the boss. Why can't I have consensual PVP in an area where I've killed the boss? :/
 
Oct 26, 2017
1,439
Hi all,

I'm replaying Bloodborne, just took out Logarius, contemplating when to jump into The Old Hunters for the very first time. I know beating the last boss will fuck me, but, other than that, is there an event that will lock me out of the DLC?

I appreciate any... insight.
 

gosublime

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,432
Hi all,

I'm replaying Bloodborne, just took out Logarius, contemplating when to jump into The Old Hunters for the very first time. I know beating the last boss will fuck me, but, other than that, is there an event that will lock me out of the DLC?

I appreciate any... insight.

Nope - nothing blocks you from it, apart from the final boss. Even that doesn't really block you, just means you have to do it in NG+ - which I wouldn't recommend for a first time - I jumped in around Level 70 or so first time.