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Except that the NYT broke or corroborated almost every major scandalous story about Trump, and they only had one major story on Clinton emails last year and it was when James Comey factually wrote a letter to congress about the email issue in relation to the Anthony Wiener investigation. This was news, and it was days before the election. They reported it because it was a major story, even if the original pretense "Her emails!" is a fart in the wind (which, the NYT reinforced that narrative that 'the emails are nothing' with their reporting from 2013-2016). Nearly every other major investigative story about Trump, his ties to Russia, and his dangerous history were either reported first by the NYT or the details were corroborated almost immediately (most reporters at the Times, WaPo, NPR, etc check their work with each other... They want to break the scoop, but they also get the same sources and they check their work against each other).

Almost all of the major NYT stories on the in 2016 were negative investigative exposes on Trump, his taxes, assaulting women, collusion with Russia, discord in his transition team, his draft record, his fallout with Republicans.
Only one story of all of their major political stories in 2016 are about Hillary Clinton's emails, and it was about Jim Comey's late October letter to Congress, which... happened.

The Dossier story was broken by BuzzFeed or whoever it was because neither the Washington Post, NYT, NPR, ABC News, or any legitimate news agency could corroborate any of the details of it... and with good reason, it was highly classified intelligence that also had a bomb shell sexual scandal in it that is probably not real. This isn't "Truthiness," "False equivalencies," or "Statist positions" (I'm not sure what you mean by the last one? Is that like an anti-Deep State argument?). But that wasn't good reporting by BuzzFeed, or whoever uploaded the leak. That site just leaked the document, but almost all of the details of it were quickly provided by the NYT, WaPo, NPR, The Atlantic, Slate, and other publications who had actually vetted the story and decided that the details were too salacious (largely, the pee tape, which is still MIA 18 months later) and too difficult to verify. BuzzFeed put it out there as a mic drop because they knew they couldn't actually do any legitimate investigation into the details of it and if it was going to be taken seriously it'd be because serious reporting agencies do the work verifying those stories.

If you look at the major stories broken by The WAshington Post or ABC News, two other organizations that had Trump bombshells in 2016, and continued through 2017, almost all of these were corroborated by the NYT or had a NYT source as a major piece of their article (and vice versa). Other news "agencies" generally don't break news, or they're not original sources for a story, they present opinion or make connections between stories that the New York Times (and also WaPo, or WSJ when it comes to financial stories most often) does original reporting on... Or some partnership with the Times (like ProPublica, who is a tight partner with the Times).
For me, it's not about just breaking news, but questioning their editorial focus during the election (and from all these recent events, their editorial focus now). I would give this study from the Columbia Journalism Review a read: Don't blame the election on fake news. Blame it on the media. They studied the coverage from the mainstream media in general, but do focus quite a bit on the NYTimes itself. From it:
What did all these stories talk about? The research team investigated this question, counting sentences that appeared in mainstream media sources and classifying each as detailing one of several Clinton- or Trump-related issues. In particular, they classified each sentence as describing either a scandal (e.g., Clinton's emails, Trump's taxes) or a policy issue (Clinton and jobs, Trump and immigration). They found roughly four times as many Clinton-related sentences that described scandals as opposed to policies, whereas Trump-related sentences were one-and-a-half times as likely to be about policy as scandal. Given the sheer number of scandals in which Trump was implicated—sexual assault; the Trump Foundation; Trump University; redlining in his real-estate developments; insulting a Gold Star family; numerous instances of racist, misogynist, and otherwise offensive speech—it is striking that the media devoted more attention to his policies than to his personal failings. Even more striking, the various Clinton-related email scandals—her use of a private email server while secretary of state, as well as the DNC and John Podesta hacks—accounted for more sentences than all of Trump's scandals combined (65,000 vs. 40,000) and more than twice as many as were devoted to all of her policy positions.

To reiterate, these 65,000 sentences were written not by Russian hackers, but overwhelmingly by professional journalists employed at mainstream news organizations, such as The New York Times, The Washington Post, and The Wall Street Journal. To the extent that voters mistrusted Hillary Clinton, or considered her conduct as secretary of state to have been negligent or even potentially criminal, or were generally unaware of what her policies contained or how they may have differed from Donald Trump's, these numbers suggest their views were influenced more by mainstream news sources than by fake news.
To shed more light on this possibility, we conducted an in-depth analysis of a single media source, The New York Times. We chose the Times for two reasons: First, because its broad reach both among policy elites and ordinary citizens means that the Times has singular influence on public debates; and second, because its reputation for serious journalism implies that if the Times did not inform its readers of the issues, then it is unlikely such information was widely available anywhere
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Of the 150 front-page articles that discussed the campaign in some way, we classified slightly over half (80) as Campaign Miscellaneous. Slightly over a third (54) were Personal/Scandal, with 29 focused on Trump and 25 on Clinton. Finally, just over 10 percent (16) of articles discussed Policy, of which six had no details, four provided details on Trump's policy only, one on Clinton's policy only, and five made some comparison between the two candidates' policies. The results for the full corpus were similar: Of the 1,433 articles that mentioned Trump or Clinton, 291 were devoted to scandals or other personal matters while only 70 mentioned policy, and of these only 60 mentioned any details of either candidate's positions. In other words, comparing the two datasets, the number of Personal/Scandal stories for every Policy story ranged from 3.4 (for front-page stories) to 4.2. Further restricting to Policy stories that contained some detail about at least one candidate's positions, these ratios rise to 5.5 and 4.85, respectively.
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In light of the stark policy choices facing voters in the 2016 election, it seems incredible that only five out of 150 front-page articles that The New York Times ran over the last, most critical months of the election, attempted to compare the candidate's policies, while only 10 described the policies of either candidate in any detail.
In this context, 10 is an interesting figure because it is also the number of front-page stories the Times ran on the Hillary Clinton email scandal in just six days, from October 29 (the day after FBI Director James Comey announced his decision to reopen his investigation of possible wrongdoing by Clinton) through November 3, just five days before the election. When compared with the Times's overall coverage of the campaign, the intensity of focus on this one issue is extraordinary. To reiterate, in just six days, The New York Times ran as many cover stories about Hillary Clinton's emails as they did about all policy issues combined in the 69 days leading up to the election (and that does not include the three additional articles on October 18, and November 6 and 7, or the two articles on the emails taken from John Podesta). This intense focus on the email scandal cannot be written off as inconsequential: The Comey incident and its subsequent impact on Clinton's approval rating among undecided voters could very well have tipped the election.

And I haven't even mentioned their article before the election basically absolving Trump of any Russia ties. But I'll be happy to elaborate on my concerns if you're interested.
 

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NYT breaking some big articles on Trump doesn't excuse their BS lately. The only way this kind of shit will stop is by voicing our displeasure with their recent actions. There is no need to come to aid of the New York Times which by the way is also owned by a rich guy

And despite the the NYT supposedly being the best in the world they pushed a false narrative right before the election that there was nothing behind the Trump Russia story and instead plastered an emails story all across the front page. And yet somehow their conclusion was that they need to profile nazis
 

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Why wouldn't I worry about this before a wannabe fascist rises on the left when we've just seen the same game play out on the right?

Show me the rising fascist left in any significant number or postition of power.. or fuck anywhere on the path to power.

Spoilers you can't.

This idea of a rising fascist left is absurd and yiu know it.
 
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I know that this was to someone else and it was well over a page ago, but just following up to this that there's a lot of posts even since you asked this either implying, joking, suggesting, or outright stating that the NYT hired this person in order to appeal to "the racist demographic," or what have you.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/th...-nazis-update-fired.23118/page-9#post-4519367
https://www.resetera.com/threads/th...-nazis-update-fired.23118/page-9#post-4518631
https://www.resetera.com/threads/th...-nazis-update-fired.23118/page-8#post-4518239
https://www.resetera.com/threads/th...-nazis-update-fired.23118/page-9#post-4518710

ANd several more. The idea is that the NYT is trying to attract neo-nazis, nazis, alt-right, racists, or some other undesirable to 'get in on the deplorable market' or something. It's not true. I get it from a satirical joking kind of way, that when you see arguably the best journalistic outlet in the US hire a person like this, you can't help but be cynical about it... But I think that there's a point where there can be a reality check, of, well, no, fellow liberals, the NYT is not an alt-right or neo-nazi publication and they don't want to be one. And... incidentally... like every negative story we've had about our Alt-Right-In-Chief has been broken or corroborated by NYT reporters doing yeoman's work.
Then if they're not deliberately hiring these people, they're hilariously incompetent at screening their contributors, which isn't much better frankly - especially if they want to earn that moniker of "arguably the best journalistic outlet in the US".

So again I ask, which is it? Are they not doing any due diligence before letting people grace their pages or are they deliberately hiring trash people to contribute?
 

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People are clearly pushing a grudge-agenda against the NYT because of their Clinton hit pieces (or piece). There is a criticism to be had against their editorial "neutral but complicit" line, but I think it is also fair to say that people are over antagonizing the NYT when they are one of the strongest anti Trump allies out there.

Good on them for firing her though. Being an explicit white supremacist is not just a "dumb" character flaw.
 

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NYT breaking some big articles on Trump doesn't excuse their BS lately. The only way this kind of shit will stop is by voicing our displeasure with their recent actions. There is no need to come to aid of the New York Times which by the way is also owned by a rich guy.

I think it's pretty clear that he's not defending the NYT's mistakes - mistakes which they've already admitted to. He's defending journalism and warning against the tendency for extremely polarized groups to self-select their "news" sources and create their own reality. We've already seen how dangerous this is.

Calling NYT alt-right, racist, etc. seems to me to be a tactic to silence their reporting as seen by a moderator of this forum saying the publication belongs in the trash.
 

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One of the things that is so frustrating about this is seeing people come to her defense on Twitter.

This wasn't a one-time thing. It wasn't something stupid she said when she was young. It's how she has talked and acted over the past few years. She is an adult in her mid-40s.

We've all said something terrible at some point in our lives. I'm 32 and sometimes I see old Facebook posts from literally 10 years ago pop up in the "on this day" feature and I feel embarrassed. Like I'm looking at a different person. Because it's so far removed from who I am as an adult.

Something came up the other day where I referred to a female celebrity as a "bitch" in like 2009 for legitimately no reason and it was like I was reading something another person typed. If old MySpace comments were still available, you might have seen 18-year-old me calling using some sort of slur because I thought it made me sound like a badass.

Her tweets here don't fall under that category. They're from her late 30s and 40s. She knows better. This is legitimately hateful stuff. She is the hateful person in those tweets and it is proven even further by her attempt to explain away calling someone a "shit eating cry baby fag" with "I have gay friends!"

I honestly have trouble comprehending how someone can think, let alone say some of the shit she tweeted.
 

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People are clearly pushing a grudge-agenda against the NYT because of their Clinton hit pieces (or piece). There is a criticism to be had against their editorial "neutral but complicit" line, but I think it is also fair to say that people are over antagonizing the NYT when they are one of the strongest anti Trump allies out there.

Good on them for firing her though. Being an explicit white supremacist is not just a "dumb" character flaw.
Part of the reason they catch so much heat is that they publicly and actively push back against the valid criticism.
 

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People are clearly pushing a grudge-agenda against the NYT because of their Clinton hit pieces (or piece). There is a criticism to be had against their editorial "neutral but complicit" line, but I think it is also fair to say that people are over antagonizing the NYT when they are one of the strongest anti Trump allies out there.

Clearly? Please.

I'm falling for your attempt to derail the thread aren't I?
 

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In this context, 10 is an interesting figure because it is also the number of front-page stories the Times ran on the Hillary Clinton email scandal in just six days, from October 29 (the day after FBI Director James Comey announced his decision to reopen his investigation of possible wrongdoing by Clinton) through November 3, just five days before the election. When compared with the Times's overall coverage of the campaign, the intensity of focus on this one issue is extraordinary. To reiterate, in just six days, The New York Times ran as many cover stories about Hillary Clinton's emails as they did about all policy issues combined in the 69 days leading up to the election (and that does not include the three additional articles on October 18, and November 6 and 7, or the two articles on the emails taken from John Podesta). This intense focus on the email scandal cannot be written off as inconsequential: The Comey incident and its subsequent impact on Clinton's approval rating among undecided voters could very well have tipped the election.
https://www.cjr.org/analysis/fake-news-media-election-trump.php

More at the link. I'm pretty sure NYT was discussed like this in a previous thread? The apology thread perhaps? I can't remember, it all blurs together.

Edit: Beaten by the JayC3, well damn.
 

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I think it's pretty clear that he's not defending the NYT's mistakes - mistakes which they've already admitted to. He's defending journalism and warning against the tendency for extremely polarized groups to self-select their "news" sources and create their own reality. We've already seen how dangerous this is.

Calling NYT alt-right, racist, etc. seems to me to be a tactic to silence their reporting as seen by a moderator of this forum saying the publication belongs in the trash.
We already know that this doesn't happen on the left. http://www.journalism.org/2017/01/1...vided-in-their-main-source-for-election-news/

Pew has studied this issue and the left tends to get their news from a variety of sources, whereas many on the right get their news soley from Fox and the conservative ecosystem. So that's why people are saying you are creating false equivalences. You're basing your opinions on things that we already know doesn't happen.

Edit: Just to clarify, I'm not an advocate of burning it all down. And I'll happily say that the NYTimes has done a lot of good work. But I also don't put them or any newspaper on a pedestal, and I like to think that my criticisms, when I give them, are substantive.
 
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Either higher ups at the NYT are desperate for sales and have no fucking clue what they're doing, or they're desperate for sales and also sympathize with white supremacists. Considering they hired this woman I'm still not sure which it is.
 

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It would be fascinating to trace back through your post history to identify exactly when you became HA Goodman

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We already know that this doesn't happen on the left. http://www.journalism.org/2017/01/1...vided-in-their-main-source-for-election-news/

Pew has studied this issue and the left tends to get their news from a variety of sources, whereas many on the right get their news from Fox and the conservative ecosystem. So that's why people are saying you are creating false equivalences. You're basing your opinions on things that we already know doesn't happen.

Except I never said the two sides are equivalent. In fact, I specifically noted the differences of degrees in polarization on both sides. It doesn't take away from the fact that this is something to worry about right now; just look at the first 20 posts in this thread.

The New York Times is being pushed as alt-right, Nazi-sympathizing and immoral. This is to say that they can't be trusted. We know where that leads; we're seeing the results already.
 

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NYT has been consistently trash for years dude, I basically make the same post in every single thread about the NYT so I won't go into it now but they're very much on the side of power.
 

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The entire above the fold front page was the Comey Letter.

The entire above the fold front page.

Fuck them.
 

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Also the myriad of super important stories I guarantee you they're sitting on right now but won't release for fear "they may appear too biased". I wouldn't be surprised if years from now it'll turn out that the NYT had actual hard proof of some Russian stuff (or, lord have mercy, the piss tape) but didn't release it because of they wanted to keep the "market place of ideas open" or some rubbish.

The editors have the notion that the left and right in America can still come to a compromise, even though their actual views are so diametrically opposed to each others existence. They act like this mythical group of Never-Trump conservatives didn't just immediately get on their knees and start licking his boots the moment he won the election, to preserve a sense of decorum they will always try and show both sides in equal light, even when one side is "I want to genocide these people." If the Trump Camps ever become a real thing, the NYT will have a front page Op-Ed defending it .

And I guarantee you that the with the way they signal boost the right, they would never do the same for the left. I can't wait for their next CHUD Safari where it turns out, yes, Donald Trump's supporters still like Donald Trump.
 
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JayC3

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Except I never said the two sides are equivalent. In fact, I specifically noted the differences of degrees in polarization on both sides. It doesn't take away from the fact that this is something to worry about right now; just look at the first 20 posts in this thread.

The New York Times is being pushed as alt-right, Nazi-sympathizing and immoral. This is to say that they can't be trusted. We know where that leads; we're seeing the results already.
With all due respect, if multiple people are saying that you're creating false equivalences, then either you are making false equivalences, or you need to make yourself clearer because lots of people are getting this impression. More specifically:

Well it's the prevailing voice on Era, though it's probably not a majority of the forum. It's a much smaller portion of the greater population, but it's easy to see this ideology is growing in numbers and influence just as the alt-right did years ago. This isn't just an internet phenomenon.

Discrediting reputable news organizations in order to obscure the truth or claim there is no truth is harmful to democracy no matter what side it is coming from.

Dark times because political polarization hasn't only affected one side of the spectrum.

Politically, the right has been awful for decades now and has been met with a reasonably moral and effective left. That the right has become more poisonous while subsequently the left is being infected by the same poison is what is frightening. The NYT's (probably clumsy) "white supremacists are just people" articles are in a way explaining this same nightmarish scenario. Yes, both sides - actually everyone in the world - are capable of tribalism, and then violence.

It's important to check ourselves against that threat.
A) You talk about this thread as if we're "obscuring the truth" when the criticism is that they hired a Nazi sympathizer. How does that have anything to do with the truth?
B) You say that the left is being "infected by the same poison" as the right, which is in fact creating an equivalence.

And more, like I said, people have legitimate gripes with the NYTimes (see my earlier post with that Columbia Journalism Review study). So this has nothing to do with the wholesale dismissal of mainstream media that the right does.
 

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So........... They hired her and then fired her a few hours later ...... on purpose? Wouldn't firing her a couple hours later be admitting "This was a mistake"?

If the NYT did this all on purpose in order to attract the #MAGA audience as some of you are so sure of, why would they fire her after only a few hours? Like, wouldn't they just love this publicity in reaching out to the Trump vote...?

No, I think the reasonable point of view is that they hired her based on her resume (I mean, The Atlantic, ProPublica, Wired, The Guardian, she's cited as an expert in half a dozen WaPo articles that come up on the first page in Google...), but didn't do due diligence in looking into these things she's said and how offensive they are. And then when they were made aware of it, and someone else caught wind of it, they rightly reversed course and dropped her.

Or, it's a grand conspiracy to attract trump supporters to reading the NYT...

Looking through her twitter, it seems she got her position at NYT due to someone who was already working there(IE She thanked someone directly for the job, that she wouldn't have made it without her.) She probably got a fasttrack because of who she knew.
 

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Looking through her twitter, it seems she got her position at NYT due to someone who was already working there(IE She thanked someone directly for the job, that she wouldn't have made it without her.) She probably got a fasttrack because of who she knew.
Ugh...figures.

Hopefully whoever got her the job is being nailed to the wall.
 

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Pretty terrifying that people like this are actually getting scouted by a legit newspaper for having these views and only backing away when theres too much evidence to attempt "lets hear both sides out" idiocy.

What an insane time to be alive. The shit that is going on, if there are history books, they're going to have to be written by The Onion.
 

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Ugh...figures.

Hopefully whoever got her the job is being nailed to the wall.
Whoever decided to hire her really should be at fault.

She was interviewed by Katie and James, however those people are...

Her twitter profile:

Journo. Ideologically impure. I write on security, privacy, human condition. EU-American.​

Well at least she's not some knee-jerk liberal!


From her Patreon:

As I interviewed with Katie, then James, they made it clear that they weren't going to get put off by a little weird. As for how weird, well that's for them to discover.

It sure is... will Katie and James still have jobs after this?
 

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Pretty terrifying that people like this are actually getting scouted by a legit newspaper for having these views and only backing away when theres too much evidence to attempt "lets hear both sides out" idiocy.

What an insane time to be alive. The shit that is going on, if there are history books, they're going to have to be written by The Onion.
Also, in other horrible hires by news publications, The Washington Post is hiring Megan McArdle, author of such hits as Beware of blaming government for for London Tower Fire, wherein she writes about how sprinklers might have saved some residents but then it would be an inefficient use of funds so the tradeoff for actual human lives wasn't as clear cut and There's Little We Can Do to Prevent Another Massacre, written in the aftermath of the Sandy Hook shooting and includes such advice as "I'd also like us to encourage people to gang rush shooters, rather than following their instincts to hide; if we drilled it into young people that the correct thing to do is for everyone to instantly run at the guy with the gun, these sorts of mass shootings would be less deadly".
 

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Also, in other horrible hires by news publications, The Washington Post is hiring Megan McArdle, author of such hits as Beware of blaming government for for London Tower Fire, wherein she writes about how sprinklers might have saved some residents but then it would be an inefficient use of funds so the tradeoff for actual human lives wasn't as clear cut and There's Little We Can Do to Prevent Another Massacre, written in the aftermath of the Sandy Hook shooting and includes such advice as "I'd also like us to encourage people to gang rush shooters, rather than following their instincts to hide; if we drilled it into young people that the correct thing to do is for everyone to instantly run at the guy with the gun, these sorts of mass shootings would be less deadly".
The characterization of the second article is unfair, it's an article about how we're screwed because the obvious solution (ban guns) is off the table. Which I don't think is something people would disagree with. (see: this thread https://www.resetera.com/threads/police-killing-rates-in-g7-countries.18944/ )
 

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I just watched it. Nothing she said was controversial. Although if all you read is out-of-context quotes from Twitter and Internet forums, I can imagine how you would think it was.
Sure, you might not find both sides-ism controversial or Bari Weiss talking about the "snowflake" generation and that we should worry that #MeToo and the "hard left feminists" are going too far by putting innocent men on the chopping block, and making fun of consent cause she wants "unsolicited kisses" (her quote) back in the workplace.

What are your thoughts on her tweets about the Olympian athlete? Or Muslims? And various other topics covered in the article that was linked.
 

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The fact that NYT admits of not doing their research properly says actually quite a lot about their ability to investigate. Which is pretty bad for such a newspaper. I guess nobody should expect well documented stories from them.
 

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I'm guessing she felt "powerful" when dehumanizing groups of other human beings on a regular basis. But she's right. History is watching you. Karma's a bitch, huh?
 

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Hahaha all these liberal newspapers showing their true colors. Love how their OP-Eds are full of right wingers.

The WaPo just hired Megan fucking Mcardle too lmao
 

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Also, in other horrible hires by news publications, The Washington Post is hiring Megan McArdle, author of such hits as Beware of blaming government for for London Tower Fire, wherein she writes about how sprinklers might have saved some residents but then it would be an inefficient use of funds so the tradeoff for actual human lives wasn't as clear cut and There's Little We Can Do to Prevent Another Massacre, written in the aftermath of the Sandy Hook shooting and includes such advice as "I'd also like us to encourage people to gang rush shooters, rather than following their instincts to hide; if we drilled it into young people that the correct thing to do is for everyone to instantly run at the guy with the gun, these sorts of mass shootings would be less deadly".
this is disgusting. Who is reading/listening to this moron?
 

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Her grammar is atrocious, how is she getting hired for this kind of work anyway? I know it's Twitter, but still...
 

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I don't understand how the NYT can be so incredibly uneven, providing some of the best coverage of Trump admin leaks and this kind of trash, even when so much of it is from the same department. It's a baffling failure of judgement that seems inexplicable other than pure incompetence, which seems too simple an answer given how often they've proven themselves to have the skills to be the best in the business. I look forward to a tell-all story that explains all these boneheaded decisions
 

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this is disgusting. Who is reading/listening to this moron?
I like her work. In the universe of popular and semi-popular op-ed writers, she's probably the person whose way of thinking about things most closely matches mine. I'm kind of puzzled at why Megan McArdle keeps coming up in a thread about a racist, Nazi sympathizer.
 

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I like her work. In the universe of popular and semi-popular op-ed writers, she's probably the person whose way of thinking about things most closely matches mine. I'm kind of puzzled at why Megan McArdle keeps coming up in a thread about a racist, Nazi sympathizer.
because extremist right libertarians support policies that may not be as openly racist as nazis but would probably do as much or more to cause human misery and death
 

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Honestly shocked she was fired because if her tweets had the exact same message but "nicer" it would be 100% consistent with the NYT.