Maybe the secret season will help us understand it even less.
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There's no way there's a photo that proves such a thing. Probably from deleted scenes, but literally another season? I mean, I know Lynch got carte blanche, but doing an extra, secret season is fucking nuts.
Doing another 8-9 hours in secret is impossible. Especially for there not to be a whisper of this until now. Too many people worked on it.
So I'm sitting on the bus going to school and all of a sudden I see this Twin Peaks restaurant.
Great new video on The Return and one very well worded take on the series being about the collective dream and the unified theme of the whole season:
Great take and entertaining video. Subbed! Dude feels like a mix of YMS and Cbgirl19. Thanks for sharing.
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This is really neat, though I'd recommend playing the actual game instead of watching a playthrough on your ffffucking telephone.
DAVID LYNCH TEACHES TYPING (itch.io, Windows, Linux and Mac)
It's really well made, the Lynch impersonation is pretty much spot on and the whole thing goes about how you'd expect in 5 short minutes. It's fun and educational.
Watching season 3 and not knowing what to expect and talking about the show with you guys is still probably my favorite TV experience ever. I really miss it.
I do too, and I appreciate Lynch's angle a lot more going through it now to show as little as possible before it aired. I think he was in the right with that one despite it being a bit frustrating before it aired. His talk about surprises, advertising, spoiler culture, and the like before it aired and why he showed so little I think were completely on point.
I doubt that typical advertising would affect the experience of watching this show all that much. Some of the set reports we've seen have been more spoilerific than anything they'd put in a trailer and those spoilers only made it more confusing and harder to predict where the story was going (the catch being that, for most characters, it wasn't going anywhere).
Holy shit, how did I not make the connection back when it aired (and during our thousands of posts at the old place) that the universe Audrey, Laura and Cooper have all entered/gotten trapped in is ours? "Billy" that Audrey is calling out for being Billy Zane, "Audrey's Dance" being explicitly mentioned, and Laura and Cooper knocking not on Sarah Palmer's door, but on the door of the real life owner of the house, etc.
That's a cute theory, but nah, while it does look a little more like it, that isn't our reality.
The house belongs to the Tremonds and has previously belonged to a Chalfont, all of whom are fictional characters. Audrey hasn't ended up in a different universe, she simply went insane, because that's just what female characters do in the new Twin Peaks.
Plus, they drive past the Double R Diner, which is a fictional location, unlike the real(?) life Twede's Cafe.
I like this interpretation, and I've had a similar one before. My current favorite interpretation is: Laura and Cooper (and Diane) are stuck in a lodge dimension that's a near facsimile of our reality (a dream or illusion) but it is the lair of Judy. Judy's in the Palmer residence at the end and when Laura's scream knocks out the electricity ("EEEE-LEC-TRIIII-CITY") the illusion/dream of it shatters.
Yeah, that book was absolutely brutal to just about every woman in the universe.
Plus Albert "Trigger Warning" Rosenfield.
What's worse, it's laughably repetitive in its mean-spiritedness. It reads like some messed up Mad Libs with nearly every female character getting locked up in a mental hospital, usually following an episode of "troubling" promiscuity and drug use. Which is then contrasted with T.P. in full author self-insert mode sounding like she wants nothing more but to high-five Jerry over what a fun crazed stoner he's become.
And yeah, I don't know what Frost was thinking with that Albert quip. Good luck coming up with a line that fits the '80s less than "trigger warning."
Ugh, everything I've read about The Final Dossier is a turn off...
I enjoyed The Secret History though, so that's a shame. But I admit, after the craziness of season 3 I already lost interest in what Frost could add to the lore.
I'll eventually buy it for the collection but yeah, I don't have an urge to read it.
I enjoyed The Secret History though, so that's a shame. But I admit, after the craziness of season 3 I already lost interest in what Frost could add to the lore.
I'll eventually buy it for the collection but yeah, I don't have an urge to read it.
It's the new Twin Peaks continuity, as written by its co-creator, the one who did most of the writing on the new show.
It's creepypasta material at best. I'm glad we never got to see Annie again if the character's fate was going to be dismissed with this nonsensical meta punchline.
The Final Dossier in general just reads really bad. You know how a lot of creepypasta pretends to be an official document, but never comes off like it was written by someone who regularly writes those documents? The Final Dossier has that quality to it, and it really makes it hard to keep reading it. It's just too cringey. I think its fair if someone decides they don't consider it canon, since a lot of what it does with S1/2 characters is completely ignored in S3. I have no doubts that a season 4 would ignore a lot of the book.
Yeah, what ultimately shows up onscreen is what I consider canon, for me anyway. Frost obviously has never gotten his due for his contributions to the show and its universe. But, for me anyway, the ideas (good and bad) have to filter through the rest of the contributors (especially Lynch) and actually be filmed and edited before they count as the real thing. Kind of like a songwriter can bring a demo to their band, but we don't consider it the real song until it's evolved, recorded, produced, and released. Frost's books are more unbaked possibilities than a true recounting, in my headcanon.
By the same token, more power to anyone who does consider the books canon. I've done the same with other properties I've read/watched. However you choose to enjoy the universe is best for you!
I borrowed the Blu-Ray from the library, and the very first thing I did was... well, I watched episode 8 first.
But the next thing I did was watch Wally.
Well, I finished S2 for the first time. Wasn't nearly as bad as I was led to believe. Sure, some storylines were awful (James James James) but most of it still felt like Twin Peaks to me. And the finale was astounding. Next up: Fire Walk With Me. Then I think I might use some credit and buy The Return on Blu-ray.
Can't believe we're coming up to a year since the premier aired already. Is it future or is it past?
Yeah basically all of the "non-classic" Twin Peaks stuff has been pretty underrated. All of it is very worthwhile. Fire Walk With Me is probably my favorite Twin Peaks thing ever (and probably the best movie of the 90s).
Damn, too young to pass away. I hope it was peaceful. It always saddens me to think that the video Welcome to Twin Peaks does every year of in memoriam is so long. What a shame.
Season 2's got a crappy middle, but the Season 2 finale might be the best episode of a television show pre-2000.
Oh man that's really nice! I picked up one like that from a convention I went to last month but it looks no where near as nice, it's got nothing on the back and the letters are in white, however it was only 3 bucks lol.
The letters are supposed to be white, so at least that part is more accurate... also the quote/slogan on the back is just bad and dumb, so omitting that part is a definite improvement.
Not that either of those looks anything like a Great Northern room key tag.
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The letters are supposed to be white, so at least that part is more accurate... also the quote/slogan on the back is just bad and dumb, so omitting that part is a definite improvement.
Not that either of those looks anything like a Great Northern room key tag.
Different font, but I'd say it looks fine.
Yeah, but I meant the real Great Northern room key tag, not this magical hotel room/boiler room/sheriff's station dream dimension key MacGuffin.Different font, but I'd say it looks fine.
Season 3 was full of memorable moments. Episodes 1, 2, 8, 17 & 18 in their entirety were just mesmerizing.
It's Episode 15 from about 37 minutes 30 seconds onward that haunts me the most, though. Ever since its original air date, I just can't stop thinking about it.
Everything has built up to this moment. The tension was just so great....would Dougie ever snap back to Dale Cooper? What would be the catalyst?
Finally.....the moment arrived.......
We're left with still no Dale Cooper and wondering the fate of Dougie.
Cut to The Log Lady, whom many Twin Peaks fans were distinctly aware was no longer with us --- the actual actress, Catherine Coulson, who portrayed her had sadly passed away from cancer. Then what do we get at this moment when we are all reeling from Dougie's electrocution?
I don't know about you, but I was choking up at this point. It was such an emotional scene, and then following it up with Hawk
.......man, it was one of the most touching and sad moments of television that I have ever viewed.
Cut to Audrey Horne and Charlie.......any big fan of Audrey's has been wondering and waiting. Just what is going on with her? Something definitely seems off......what was that a few episodes back about
Her reappearance in Season 3 so many episodes in, after a long and mysterious absence, initially was exciting but quickly turned frustrating to viewers. Drawn out scenes, seemingly pointless drama. Just as frustrating to viewers as it seemed to be to Audrey. Little clues had been dropped here and there that something darker was at hand. Then in Episode 15, we finally get them prepping to leave and go to the Roadhouse. You knew.....you just knew when Audrey
Became increasingly dreamlike from that point forward. Then when Charlie
you knew that them leaving symbolized something more than just an average trip to the Roadhouse. Then, frustratingly, she
As a culmination of emotions, coming after those two incredibly emotional scenes with Dougie & the Log Lady (for very different reasons), it was just a high point emotionally for me in the series.
But the episode wasn't over yet. The emotion had yet to peak. Cut to the Roadhouse for the end of episode song, Axolotl, by The Veils. The scene was dreamlike from the start, with The Veils putting on a killer performance with incredibly haunting lyrics that fit aspects of the story so very well (as it was with so many of the Roadhouse songs).
"Glowing bright obsidian" --- just like Dougie
"Oh my soul, losing control, who built this heart?, oh my god" --- the chorus echoing tulpa concerns, Richard etc.
"Baby's got a belly full of black soot" / "Accidental amphibian" "Another head for the chopping board"......all so very well linking with Richard as
The girl who got moved from the table was so good in this scene. So dreamlike and eerie as she slowly and oddly crawled across the dance floor, seemingly getting more and more distraught. She was dressed very proper with large glasses......almost like
As she moved across the dance floor, I immediately noticed the legs of people dancing being framed very distinctly as being like swaying sycamore trees......just a brilliant subtle shot by David Lynch, the master.
Everything was just overwhelming at this point, with the intense music, the girl, the strobe light over the lead singer as the lights went out, the lyrics invoking Richard, which you knew was
........all leading up to the girl shrieking intensely at the music's climax, directly paralleling
. Lights out............end credits............HOLY COW, what a ride.
Peak emotion for me at this point. Just speechless. And then for the Easter Egg at the end of the credits, for those watching carefully, with
So creepy.
I just can't stop thinking about the experience described above......I wish so much to be able to view that fresh for the very first time again.......it was such an intense time, rivaled only by episodes 17 & 18, starting from the point that
Did anyone else appreciate the latter part of episode 15 as much as I did? I have seriously thought about it every single week since viewing it. The music by The Veils wasn't the most amazing song in the world, but I can't stop listening to it, strictly because of what I've described above and how it impacted me so much.
It's Episode 15 from about 37 minutes 30 seconds onward that haunts me the most, though. Ever since its original air date, I just can't stop thinking about it.
Everything has built up to this moment. The tension was just so great....would Dougie ever snap back to Dale Cooper? What would be the catalyst?
Finally.....the moment arrived.......
Dougie hears "Gordon Cole" on the TV and snaps to attention in recognition. Then he subsequently decides to electrocute himself while trying to get back through the wall socket.
Cut to The Log Lady, whom many Twin Peaks fans were distinctly aware was no longer with us --- the actual actress, Catherine Coulson, who portrayed her had sadly passed away from cancer. Then what do we get at this moment when we are all reeling from Dougie's electrocution?
"Hawk...................I'm dying".....................I'm telling you.....the chills that I got knowing that this was crossing over from a TV show into reality. Catherine Coulson had actually been dying from cancer when she performed this scene, so the scene itself was actually one of her very last acts on this earth and she knew it. It was to be, without a doubt, her final appearance as the Log Lady, and here she was announcing to Hawk of her imminent death and her feelings about it.
I don't know about you, but I was choking up at this point. It was such an emotional scene, and then following it up with Hawk
rounding up the old police gang at HQ to announce Margaret Lanterman's passing
Cut to Audrey Horne and Charlie.......any big fan of Audrey's has been wondering and waiting. Just what is going on with her? Something definitely seems off......what was that a few episodes back about
"end your story too" and "what story? Is it the one about the little girl who lives down the lane? Is it???"
hesitated and drew out the conversation childishly with Charlie when he was all ready to go and she threw up another hurdle in front of them that something bad was going on.
worded them leaving as "on the threshold".....
talks long enough for Charlie to take his coat off and you can just feel the frustration and desperation dripping from Audrey as she tackles him, berates him and beats him --- if you've cared for Audrey as a character all along, you are just feeling that frustration right there with him and it is palpable.
But the episode wasn't over yet. The emotion had yet to peak. Cut to the Roadhouse for the end of episode song, Axolotl, by The Veils. The scene was dreamlike from the start, with The Veils putting on a killer performance with incredibly haunting lyrics that fit aspects of the story so very well (as it was with so many of the Roadhouse songs).
"Glowing bright obsidian" --- just like Dougie
electrocuting himself
"Baby's got a belly full of black soot" / "Accidental amphibian" "Another head for the chopping board"......all so very well linking with Richard as
an unholy spawn of Audrey & Doppleganger Cooper
The girl who got moved from the table was so good in this scene. So dreamlike and eerie as she slowly and oddly crawled across the dance floor, seemingly getting more and more distraught. She was dressed very proper with large glasses......almost like
a reincarnation of The Log Lady (or somehow channeling her spirit)? And yet she crawled just as Dougie had towards the electrical outlet......was she channeling his experience as well?
As she moved across the dance floor, I immediately noticed the legs of people dancing being framed very distinctly as being like swaying sycamore trees......just a brilliant subtle shot by David Lynch, the master.
Everything was just overwhelming at this point, with the intense music, the girl, the strobe light over the lead singer as the lights went out, the lyrics invoking Richard, which you knew was
a result of Audrey & Dark Cooper
the electrocution scene with Dougie
Peak emotion for me at this point. Just speechless. And then for the Easter Egg at the end of the credits, for those watching carefully, with
the creepy woman in the pajamas outside the motel......was it Sara Palmer? Judy?
I just can't stop thinking about the experience described above......I wish so much to be able to view that fresh for the very first time again.......it was such an intense time, rivaled only by episodes 17 & 18, starting from the point that
the clock stopped in the Sheriff's Office and Cooper's head overlayed the screen, mentioned that "WE LIVE INSIDE A DREAM".
Did anyone else appreciate the latter part of episode 15 as much as I did? I have seriously thought about it every single week since viewing it. The music by The Veils wasn't the most amazing song in the world, but I can't stop listening to it, strictly because of what I've described above and how it impacted me so much.
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