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Easy Allies |OT| The New Era
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Haven't watched it yet but I wonder if they'll convert their old scores.
Glad for the change though. 10 point scale is extremely limiting.
Numbers aren't a good expression of anything.
Hugely bummed to see this.
Then you shouldn't mind because it is just that, a number
And obviously they do mean something to the allies because they felt limited
It wasn't just a number, the start system had words and meaning behind it, which was muddied by the dumb .5 stars not having any difference anyway. This just goes backwards because even if they do attribute some meaning to the numbers again, it'll be even more watered down.
Don't like the change but it's not a big deal.
Their whole lingo when talking and joking about scores outside the review was using the number system. I guess thinking in numbers was still more natural to the allies even after 100 reviews.
Their whole lingo when talking and joking about scores outside the review was using the number system. I guess thinking in numbers was still more natural to the allies even after 100 reviews.
I was bracing for everything BUT an upgrade from the previous rating system. Seriously, 10 with .5 integrals is by far my favorite rating scale.
I was too certain in an attempt to break further off the review scale meta, they would go with "Blurb Ratings" or something later on. Good on you, Allies. I look forward to seeing use of the new system in reviews.
I was too certain in an attempt to break further off the review scale meta, they would go with "Blurb Ratings" or something later on. Good on you, Allies. I look forward to seeing use of the new system in reviews.
Not the "dumb system they had at GT" but close enough.
Now I won't take their scores seriously. Hell might as well not take the review itself seriously if reviewers themselves reduce their own work to "So what'd you give it? Oh a 8.5 huh?"
And now it seems they're literally just meaningless numbers without a word attached to it. I can go look in the dictionary what "Excellent" and "Masterful" mean but the hell is an "8.5"?
...they gotta stop saying stuff they don't know at times.
Ridge Racer exclusivity history, metroid selling more than Kirby...and I'm 23 minutes in.
I think it's fine they don't follow sales much and are much more interested in the actual games. That's great.
So it's weird to always bring up sales for discussion or bets like 'what will more, Spyro or Crash" as if they follow it regularly.
Ridge Racer exclusivity history, metroid selling more than Kirby...and I'm 23 minutes in.
I think it's fine they don't follow sales much and are much more interested in the actual games. That's great.
So it's weird to always bring up sales for discussion or bets like 'what will more, Spyro or Crash" as if they follow it regularly.
(Now that makes two good changes!)Goals being retired on the podcast...
You will no longer take a review seriously because they changed a scoring system. Nevermind everything else about the format is the same. Same reviewers, same style of scripts, same editing, but now it uses numbers it's a joke? I find that to be a crazy over reaction.
I liked the stars, it was a cool distinction from the norm but the score regardless of the system is by far my least interested part of any review I watched from them. The one distinction was I liked that I got them to use the highest score possible finally. But in general I don't need a one word category next to the score to convey that to me, I just consumed a 5-10 minute video that did that for me. Just like no review should be boiled down entirely to a number, nor should a review boil down to a single word or star
I liked the stars, it was a cool distinction from the norm but the score regardless of the system is by far my least interested part of any review I watched from them. The one distinction was I liked that I got them to use the highest score possible finally. But in general I don't need a one word category next to the score to convey that to me, I just consumed a 5-10 minute video that did that for me. Just like no review should be boiled down entirely to a number, nor should a review boil down to a single word or star
I will admit, the one change that I will miss is the editing flourish on the end of all their reviews as they reveal the score. :(
Happy with the change, myself. The 20 point scale is the perfect balance between simplicity and just enough nuance. Not fond of the 100 point scale because it seems too nitpicky to me (I prefer the 10 point scale to this). I guess it's all a matter of perception at the end of the day. What matters the most is that the Allies now have a system where they can comfortably express their opinions, and not feel misrepresented.
Yeah, I said my piece about review scores a couple pages ago. I'm not too happy with them changing to this format, but if it makes the Allies feel better about how their reviews are ultimately perceived then that's all that matters I guess. I still feel like it falls into the territory of trying to distinguish games from one another via a numerical score rather than the text of the review, but that's just my opinion on it. At the end of the day, if they feel more comfortable assigning scores that will translate well to Metacritic and the majority of other outlets' score systems, then that's what they should do because I wouldn't want them to feel uncomfortable about reviewing a game. Personally I wouldn't give a fuck about how people interpret a score that I were to give to a game, but I get it.
At least they didn't go back to the 100 point scale.
At least they didn't go back to the 100 point scale.
BUT THE CHAT/DISCORD STAR EMOTES
(I'll watch the vid in a bit)
Edit: I'm cool with it. I pay more attention the words of the review either way, and if it helps that they're more comfortable with this scale then more power to them.
Also, RogersBase in the comments. Cool!
(I'll watch the vid in a bit)
Edit: I'm cool with it. I pay more attention the words of the review either way, and if it helps that they're more comfortable with this scale then more power to them.
Also, RogersBase in the comments. Cool!
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I liked the star system, but people are stubborn when it comes to review scores. A 3 Star game is not a 6/10 to me, but that is just not how majority see it. Brandon made a good case that the 20 point scale would align their score with that of aggregate sites and would read more clearly to newcomers across the internet that see their review.
I stopped watching reviews long ago. I just watch gameplay and decide.
90% of reviews show too much, including EZA.
90% of reviews show too much, including EZA.
I feel like the whole point of reviewing a game is to communicate how you feel about it to your audience. If the way they were doing it was being misunderstood or misrepresented by a decent number of people, even if it's not EZA's fault (they clearly defined what each number meant), I think changing it is the right move.
True, I guess I just personally wouldn't really care all that much if someone were to do the "multiply by 2" math to my review and interpret it that way if I was using a 5 star system. If they want to consider my 3/5 to be a 6/10 then so be it, I wouldn't consider them to be the same score though.
But yeah, that's just me though. Like I said, if this change makes the Allies more comfortable then I do think it's for the best, so ultimately I'm in agreement with you there.
Personally, yeah and I don't see what's crazy overreacting about it.
First of all, regardless of whatever side of this argument one finds themselves on, this isn't some minor issue and it's not a minor change. If they felt strongly enough about the problem to change their scores, is it unbelievable that one would feel strongly enough to not want the change? I don't see why it would be.
Second of all, sure the content is the same...clearly that doesn't matter. Cause they're the ones who didn't feel like they could express their nuance enough despite all those other things you bring up. And fans, the reviewers themselves and the non-reviewer Allies alike are the ones who have and who will reduce all the reviewer's work to "What did it get?" "Ni No Kuni 2 got a 9.5", etc. So if that's what we're gonna do, how is it unfair to judge, whether positively or negatively, the change to a different scoring system?
I watched GT reviews and didn't take the score seriously. I watched EZA reviews and took the score seriously. In both cases obviously I took the content of the review seriously, regardless of what system was used. But why shouldn't I be able to take one scoring system more seriously than another? And if the reviewer himself will reduce his own review to the score, then why shouldn't I also accordingly be able to take one review more seriously than another? If to someone the review is the score, then it stands to reason that the opinion on the review is the opinion on the score. Once again, this is the case regardless of what scoring system you prefer.
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The only way I'll accept this is if Ultima himself comes out and says "Fuck the Stars".
It's the only way I can be cool with this.
Sure they are. On their old scale I would have given both Metroid Prime and MGS3 a 5 star review, thus expressing that I absolutely love both games. However I love Prime more than MGS3, and the stars don't allow me to indicate that.
they have personally slighted me, my family, this community, and everything we stand for... by changing to a numerical system for video game reviews.
How do you indicate that you love a game more than Prime then? 10.5?
The text/VO is where the nuance comes in.
Apparently, then again I avoid this thread because there's always whiners for the smallest of things EZA does.
I'm fine with a 10 scoring system long as they are comfortable with scoring games a 10 and not look at 10 as a score where a game has to be 100% flawless which for some reason a lot of people on the internet see the 10 as. Personally, i prefer the 5/5 system but if people counting stars as 2 points (5 being a 10, 4 being a 8 etc) frustrates me i cannot imagine how much it must frustrate the allies.
Bloodborne 2 better be a 10. ;)
Bloodborne 2 better be a 10. ;)
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