17 is dope. His fight with Piccolo is a classic.
Give the man his character. Maybe have 18 assist him like he does for her.
Give the man his character. Maybe have 18 assist him like he does for her.
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The Future Trunks Special
Fight with Piccolo
Super ToP
There's a lot of material for 17 to draw from.
Fight with Piccolo
Super ToP
There's a lot of material for 17 to draw from.
Agreed, I'm not sure why people argue otherwise after 17 earned his MVP status in the Tournament of Power.
He also gets it.
I had the sickest comeback as Yamcha the other day. I guess I'm not tricky enough with my Goku Black or Gohan as, during the fight, people slowly figure out my cross up patterns and adjust to them. But not Yamcha. His stepback H and teleporting wolf fang fist makes him so hard to read, it's awesome. I took down a dude with 3 nearly full health bars and his super recovery thing with a yamcha that had maybe a quarter of his health left. I walked away from the cabinet feeling on fire.
God this game is great.
God this game is great.
Just fought someone trying to do Dragon summoning tactics. Kind of interesting stuff, basically turtle meter and use hits ground autocombo to slowly but gradually collect balls, then use it as a 3rd desperation move.
Which probably works well if people don't know how to fight against Hit.
Which probably works well if people don't know how to fight against Hit.
Gotta be honest, don't really like the dragon balls in this game.
This game is in serious need of actual defensive options, reflect simply isn't good enough. I just fought a kid buu player (fuck that character) that completely ran a train on me in the corner and I could barely do anything. What the fuck I am supposed to do against pressure. Now that I am playing actual skilled players I am not sure I am enjoying myself. Tell me how do I deal with this.
1) Jump back
2) Reflect
3) Teleport when there is a hole in the pressure
4) counter switch (forward + assist while blocking)
Just saw the GFs of NLBC.
So both teams had Hit and Goku Black in them although JRIVERA had Android 21 on point on his.
It was a 3-0 but wasn't a supreme blow up. First two games Sonic Fox had to work hard for the win. Last match was free though.
Also Sonic Fox has a weird definition of neutral. "YO DID YOU SEE THOSE COMMAND GRABS AT THE END OFF THE SET UP THO? I AM RIDICULOUS!"
Sonic Fox's tier list explanation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSTn_7tN3Eo
If you can keep up with how fast he talks.
So both teams had Hit and Goku Black in them although JRIVERA had Android 21 on point on his.
It was a 3-0 but wasn't a supreme blow up. First two games Sonic Fox had to work hard for the win. Last match was free though.
Also Sonic Fox has a weird definition of neutral. "YO DID YOU SEE THOSE COMMAND GRABS AT THE END OFF THE SET UP THO? I AM RIDICULOUS!"
Sonic Fox's tier list explanation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSTn_7tN3Eo
If you can keep up with how fast he talks.
I play him but yeah he's a little tough to understand. Still, I sometimes get decent results with him. Try to experiment with his Alt. Ghost Super (where they stay in place) and using Vengeful Shout cancel to land overheads as it's faster than his 6M (I think?) and you can combo after it.
So it seems like there are some songs you can only get if you pick random. When I play with my friend at work we sometimes get this really weird almost chip tuney song, real goofy, and we couldn't figure out what it was. So I just sat down and went through every single song.
Now I'm sad because we want to know what the fuck it is, haha.
Now I'm sad because we want to know what the fuck it is, haha.
Ah, I think that's either Gotenks or Buu's theme for the story mode. It's very weird to fight with it playing.
I've played around with his Ghost Super but I'm not very consistent in hit confirming if one of the ghosts does connect. I'm guessing just a down + heavy would be the most reliable option.
I've experimented with trying to end his combos with heavy rolling kick. Although it does cost a bar, being able to direct the opponent to the ground/corner sets up oki and possible combo extensions with the right assist timing.
Story mode specific thing? 'Cause neither of their themes is it, either, at least not one you can choose from the list.
Yeah, it's a story mode specific theme, there are a few story mode specific ones that only play if you choose random for the music.
I don't know about this one. It always seems to get me hit. Other options you mentioned were great though.
That's cause it's not a good option. You're probably getting hit during the prejump frames. I believe there was a post on twitter that also said airblocking has additional block stun. Not sure if that's confirmed though.
Yeah this is known. You can even get the intro song to play but only via random.
Also remember you can hold down to delay your wake up. That will force them to reconsider their pressure.
Don't try to jump if they're mashing buttons or calling assists before you woke up.
1) 17 looks better in the game than he did in the show....
....So I'm not understanding where this "He looks like complete shit" is coming from
2) Is getting Android 17 "absolutely perfect" going to help Arcs Bottom Line?
Creating these characters take a lot of work.
Are you really going to keep your employees at the office after hours to make sure Android 17's HEIGHT is spot on???
How much money did Bandai/Arcs lose out on by not giving 17 original animations & moves? lol
I understand how much you like 17...but your love for him can't cover the time & money it would take to make 17 his own, unique character. (in terms of moves, height, animations etc.)
There'd be no "return on investment"... if you get my drift.
Is there anything more frustrating than losing a match, winning the 2nd match, and then the person not rematching for the 3rd?
COWARDS!
If you rematch after match 1, going best of 3 should be mandatory.
COWARDS!
If you rematch after match 1, going best of 3 should be mandatory.
Winning the 1st match, losing the 2nd match, and the person not rematching sucks even more.
I can imagine. Luckily I've not had that happen yet.
It sounds weird, but I LOVE getting my ass handed to me in this game, because I always LEARN from it! I cant remember a time where I've gotten consistently blown up and not improved as a result. It happened today, I went 0-2 against a guy, luckily got matched with him again and ended up taking a game from him in the rematch! You learn from losses, thats what frustrates me about quitters, it's like them saying "If I cant win, I'm not playing!"
17 and 18 coud have totally been their own characters. I dislike 18 being a puppet character because it feels personally like it diminishes who she is or ought to be. Theyre adding bardock, they could def do 18 and 17 separate.
also tourney going on
https://www.twitch.tv/tsb_blaze
also tourney going on
https://www.twitch.tv/tsb_blaze
Yeah, I don't really understand people that quit.
In my experience, it's usually the guys with those good stats (ie 160-8) or something along those lines. I go into it expecting a good fight, only to see the guy quit at the very end. Hella annoying. Like, how can you really look at that W/L record and feel good knowing you quit 90% of the time? It's dumb. While I'm used to it, when you're in the midst of having a so so night online, those quits just become more infuriating. I agree that losing can be quite informative at times.
I was thinking something like that could work. Maybe it loses half of the timer if done this way.
That's really my only gripe about 17 possibly being his own character via DLC. 18 could have been on her own if ASW planned a little further ahead.
I was looking for some Goku BnB combos and goddamn do anime players not know what "BnB" actually means. Like, look at this video:
No fighting game has been this hard for me to find just a basic list of simple combos, where the player will then add to them as they become more comfortable with that character. Everything's an attempt at a combo video.
No fighting game has been this hard for me to find just a basic list of simple combos, where the player will then add to them as they become more comfortable with that character. Everything's an attempt at a combo video.
Goku Black's 2H having auto correct on it is some real dumb shit.
Gonna try and trip him up by doing an empty jump over him? Nope, 2H, still hits you because it carries him almost damn near half screen.
So stupid. That entire character is dumb as hell.
Man, you ain't lying.
2M, 5M, 236LH, whiff 5L, 5LL, dash 5LLL, dash 2M, 5M, 2H, SD, j.LM, dj.LM, j.214M
In what world is that a BnB?
Gonna try and trip him up by doing an empty jump over him? Nope, 2H, still hits you because it carries him almost damn near half screen.
So stupid. That entire character is dumb as hell.
Man, you ain't lying.
2M, 5M, 236LH, whiff 5L, 5LL, dash 5LLL, dash 2M, 5M, 2H, SD, j.LM, dj.LM, j.214M
In what world is that a BnB?
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there was sum dumb shit one match where he mistimed a jump into SD after a 2H and I couldnt get a well timed jab out in time and got combo'd.
but all blacks basically play the same so i got used to their sheninagans
1) His face looks OK in the game. They used an off model anime reference, and made his forehead gigantic. This isn't code lyoko. 20 years later, his designs in various games and anime have been corrected to match the manga a bit more. The manga itself was inconsistent but that was the case with EVERY character, I included Vegeta from the same era and other recent stuff (including Fighterz artwork itself) for reference. Anyway his face was the least of my concerns.
2) You ignored literally all of the other criticism about his looks.
3) "Oh boo woo they didn't get his height spot on ?" Hum, I'm not splitting hairs here. He is taller than 18 Vegeta and Freeza. They made him SHORTER than all of them by a significant margin.
4)
"Are you really going to keep your employees at the office after hours to make sure Android 17's HEIGHT is spot on???
How much money did Bandai/Arcs lose out on by not giving 17 original animations & moves? lol"
Ok so, EVERY OTHER CHARACTER looks perfect though ? Why should 17 be the only one they decided to fuck over ? Guldo and the saibaiman received more care.
How much money ? Considering 18 and 17 are the only characters people have whined about, to the point where they're gonna have to add a separate 17 character, a lot ? Or none since they're gonna sell the new 17. But you get the point.
5) "I understand how much you like 17...but your love for him can't cover the time & money it would take to make 17 his own, unique character. (in terms of moves, height, animations etc.)
There'd be no "return on investment"... if you get my drift."
I'm under the impression that you think I'm the only guy that likes Android 17 or that wants him playable in the game. That's a funny mistake. FYI, the producer herself stated she knows many people want 17 playable, 17 was trending across the world on twitter last week (something no other character has done) and everyone is saying he's the MVP of Universe 7. He's also been included as a DLC in Xenoverse 2 alongside Goku UI and Jiren. He has the most cards added to Dragon Ball Heroes out of the current cast safe for Goku.
They would absolutely get a "return on investment", if you get my drift...
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