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Mivey

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Don't play Ao before CS2 though, I went through a translation of it and now I've been pre spoiled on several plot points in CS2 before even playing the game.
It's inevitable the other way too, tough. The games are interconnected, and play during the same time, from what I gather. So it's really just a question of what you want spoiled first. To me, the Crossbell games seem vastly more interesting, so I'd rather play them first and without getting spoiled by the CS games.
 

rickyson33

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It's inevitable the other way too, tough. The games are interconnected, and play during the same time, from what I gather. So it's really just a question of what you want spoiled first. To me, the Crossbell games seem vastly more interesting, so I'd rather play them first and without getting spoiled by the CS games.

probably for the best anyways if you don't mind waiting since cold steel 3 happens after and that way you can just play without switching between arcs
 

Aters

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Even though CS4 hasn't come out yet, I've started to look forward to the new arc. This arc has taken way too long. I want to see new character and new location already.
 

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It's inevitable the other way too, tough. The games are interconnected, and play during the same time, from what I gather. So it's really just a question of what you want spoiled first. To me, the Crossbell games seem vastly more interesting, so I'd rather play them first and without getting spoiled by the CS games.
CS does not really spoil them, and if they do it is either through the newspaper which also is clear propaganda for Erebonia or some visual cue you will have no clue about what it means without the games as reference.
Obviously this is different with CS3 which assumes the player having played through all games up till that point.
 

Discharger

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Count me in as another recent convert to the series. Had FC in my steam backlog based on recommendations from threads on the old site, but didn't get around to checking it out until recently. Actually, just finished Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and while trying to fill the void that was left after finishing the main story, I came across a video with suggestions of other games to play if you enjoyed XBC2, and the trails series stood out as the one that had the attributes I valued most out of the suggestions presented.

It's a very different game than XBC2, but I really enjoyed it for different reasons. I haven't played every jrpg, but of the ones I have played, FC easily has the best dialogue I've come across. The characters seem pretty conventional at first, but most are given enough depth to stand on their own as the game progresses. As I've heard others state, Estelle is awesome and her character arc in FC is the most believable I've seen in a jrpg. There is nothing she does that seems out of character, and when she does change, it is gradually, and makes complete sense given the situation.

It was an interesting change to play a story that follows a couple of characters, and is primarily telling their personal journey, and they are pulled into other, bigger events rather than the other way around. I found the characters charming enough to keep playing until the later chapters when the story really picks up, and at that point, it had me hooked.

About 8 hours into SC, and since I've already got that familiarity with the characters, I'm enjoying it even more.

I haven't picked up the third game yet.. how many hours do you think the average playthrough of SC is? Just want to make sure I'm ready to go when I'm done, so I can plan accordingly.
 

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Honestly, it's fine to play CS+CS2 or Zero+Ao in any order. Both orders work, you'll learn stuff about what's generally going on on the other side and what to expect from your side, but playing the other games will give you a lot more perspective.

The precise "how" is much more important than a general "what", if that makes any sense.

I haven't played CS3 yet, but from everything I've read about it, it brings a lot of threads from Erebonia and Crossbell together, so having played the Crossbell games by that point seems to be much more recommended.

I'll add (again) that I'd highly recommend having played the complete Sky trilogy before playing the Crossbell games.
 

rickyson33

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I haven't picked up the third game yet.. how many hours do you think the average playthrough of SC is? Just want to make sure I'm ready to go when I'm done, so I can plan accordingly.

it's pretty long and probably the longest game in the series(have yet to play the crossbell ones/cold steel 3 so can't speak to those),times on these can vary a lot though depending on how much you talk to the npcs etc

I spent around 100 hours on SC personally really taking my time and doing everything,that was also before turbo mode was a thing though

i'd say with turbo mode something like 40-70 hours is probably a reasonable estimate depending on how much talking and such you do?
 

Vorador

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Oct 28, 2017
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I wanted to start Trails in the Sky SC, but noticed i lost my save from FC when i changed computers. Booh.

I will take it as an excuse to play FC again.
 

鬼作.

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Honestly, it's fine to play CS+CS2 or Zero+Ao in any order. Both orders work, you'll learn stuff about what's generally going on on the other side and what to expect from your side, but playing the other games will give you a lot more perspective.
People say this all the time and I don't understand why. The Crossbell games barely reference the Sen games at all. You get dialog boxes telling you that a Civil War is happening and that's basically it. No specifics story beats or characters are mentioned. Probably because, you know, the Sen games weren't a thing back then.

Meanwhile the Sen games just won't shut up about Crossbell, spoil specific events, basically half its cast is integrated into the Sen plot by now and it's just...extremely intertwined. In comparison, there is fuck all to miss out on by playing Crossbell without Sen, because again, it was hard to spoil game that didn't exist in the first place.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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People say this all the time and I don't understand why. The Crossbell games barely reference the Sen games at all. No specifics story beats or characters are mentioned. Probably because, you know, the Sen games weren't a thing back then.

Meanwhile the Sen games just won't shut up about Crossbell, spoil specific events, basically half its cast is integrated into the Sen plot by now and it's just...extremely intertwined. In comparison, there is fuck all to miss out on by playing Crossbell without Sen, because again, it was hard to spoil game that didn't exist in the first place.
(Got rid of a line in your post that spoils CS1 for people who haven't played it yet)

It might have something to do with the order you play the games in and how much you perceive when doing so.
(CS1/2 and Ao spoilers)
When I played the Crossbell games, the only thing I remembered from CS 1/2 and was expecting were : a failed terror attack on the trade conference, Crossbell declaring its independence and sprouting a big azure tree, the tree eventually disappearing and Crossbell ending up occupied. Oh, and Garrelia Fortress being blown to bits by an unknown weapon (funnily enough, when I played Sen, I assumed this was a setup, not really Crossbell). I guess more specific stuff flew over my head, but these were my expectations going into the Crossbell games.

Compared to all the really important story beats and twists, that's not a lot. That's a general framework but all the really cool character reveals and plot twists worked.

As for the Crossbell games, mostly Ao, the stuff they spoil/foreshadow is pretty thin too: Olivert is overseeing some kids, there's a terrorist group, a civil war happens between Nobles and Reformists, there's an attempt on Osborne's life, and the Empire will invade Crossbell but ultimately withdraw. I guess you could infer Osborne survives the attempt on his life. Again, that's a general framework.

The best reason to play Crossbell first IMO is that it's a pretty direct continuation of the Sora games. Another cool Easter egg (I assume) is that you'll see the CS prologue in an entirely different light given Ao's twist about Zero's prologue. I never checked but I assume both prologues take place at the same time.
 

鬼作.

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(Got rid of a line in your post that spoils CS1 for people who haven't played it yet)

It might have something to do with the order you play the games in and how much you perceive when doing so.
(CS1/2 and Ao spoilers)
When I played the Crossbell games, the only thing I remembered from CS 1/2 and was expecting were : a failed terror attack on the trade conference, Crossbell declaring its independence and sprouting a big azure tree, the tree eventually disappearing and Crossbell ending up occupied. Oh, and Garrelia Fortress being blown to bits by an unknown weapon (funnily enough, when I played Sen, I assumed this was a setup, not really Crossbell). I guess more specific stuff flew over my head, but these were my expectations going into the Crossbell games.

Compared to all the really important story beats and twists, that's not a lot. That's a general framework but all the really cool character reveals and plot twists worked.

As for the Crossbell games, mostly Ao, the stuff they spoil/foreshadow is pretty thin too: Olivert is overseeing some kids, there's a terrorist group, a civil war happens between Nobles and Reformists, there's an attempt on Osborne's life, and the Empire will invade Crossbell but ultimately withdraw. I guess you could infer Osborne survives the attempt on his life. Again, that's a general framework.

The best reason to play Crossbell first IMO is that it's a pretty direct continuation of the Sora games. Another cool Easter egg (I assume) is that you'll see the CS prologue in an entirely different light given Ao's twist about Zero's prologue. I never checked but I assume both prologues take place at the same time.
That's the thing, playing the Sen games, the events in Crossbell are always in your face and have direct relevance to the narrative.
The attack on Garrelia Fortress is a big deal, then there is a huge tree on the horizon which is just ??? to people who haven't played Crossbell, then you actually play as Lloyd and Rixia which again, is completely ??? without experiencing the previous games. There is nothing comparable to this stuff in the Crossbell games.
You miss out on absolutely nothing in the narrative of Zero and Ao by not having played the Sen games. I would never recommend playing Sen before Crossbell if someone has the choice, in terms of how much the narrative is enriched by having played the other arc, Crossbell and Sen are not equal at all, which makes sense because it's not like they released at the same time. Falcom could expect people to have played through the Crossbell games with the Erebonia arc, and it shows.
 

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And by the time you completed the 3rd you will wonder yourself you could ever like something so shallow as FF15 to begin with.

That's 14, not 15, but I did find the combat in 15 fun. The story was rather lacking however. I do still dabble in 15 from time to time because I have a dream that someday I will have all the Final Fantasy platinum trophies.

So far I only have 13. And I play 14 on PC for the most part. This is a stupid dream.
 

Thuddert

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You miss out on absolutely nothing in the narrative of Zero and Ao by not having played the Sen games

This is true for the most part. Despite building on the sky games these games tell their own story and playing Cold Steel games first is not necessary. For me it definitely added to the experience having played both the sky games and the cold steel games. Questions naturally arise during Cold Steel II about Crossbell and it would be foolish if you didn't get a peek at all. Alternatively if I played the Crossbell games first, I think I would be very underwhelmed with Cold Steel following up Ao.

. I would never recommend playing Sen before Crossbell if someone has the choice, in terms of how much the narrative is enriched by having played the other arc, Crossbell and Sen are not equal at all, which makes sense because it's not like they released at the same time.

This is highly subjective and this sentiment is not shared amongst the majority of fans. Of course both arcs are different. They represent different point of views from different countries, sometimes on the same matters. Aside from that, the style is different. Crossbell is approached from a detective view, while Erebonia is approached from a military student view.

These games are not on equal stance by default, yet they do cover simultaneous events.

Falcom could expect people to have played through the Crossbell games with the Erebonia arc, and it shows.

They didn't expect people to play through zero and ao before cold steel I&II, which is something that shows in their game design. Erebonia is build piece by piece as if Falcom started all over again. What they did add was some fanservice Crossbell players would recognize. Which to be fair is not that instrumental for Cold Steel players if they didn't get it.

What they did plan is to have this arc continue all the previous ones. I haven't played Sen III, however I've kept a watchful eye on the news and interviews before it launched.
 

Lazrgatr

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As someone who played Ao through a ROM hack that only translated the menus and most of the main scenario with everything else being google translated gibberish, having a proper translation and all the QOL changes on CS for PC more than made up for any deficiencies in the plot or characters.
 

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I initially bought Trails in the Sky on PSP way back when, and have it loaded on my Vita. I've considered playing it there instead of PC for the portability option, but I think I would lose the ability to speed up animations which I kind of enjoy. Does the PSP/Vita version have that?
 

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I initially bought Trails in the Sky on PSP way back when, and have it loaded on my Vita. I've considered playing it there instead of PC for the portability option, but I think I would lose the ability to speed up animations which I kind of enjoy. Does the PSP/Vita version have that?

Only the PC version has that.
 

QFNS

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I initially bought Trails in the Sky on PSP way back when, and have it loaded on my Vita. I've considered playing it there instead of PC for the portability option, but I think I would lose the ability to speed up animations which I kind of enjoy. Does the PSP/Vita version have that?

Turbo mode is exclusive to the PC versions AFAIK.
 
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That's 14, not 15, but I did find the combat in 15 fun. The story was rather lacking however. I do still dabble in 15 from time to time because I have a dream that someday I will have all the Final Fantasy platinum trophies.

So far I only have 13. And I play 14 on PC for the most part. This is a stupid dream.

Oh, misread that.

...My statement is true in that case regardless.^^
 

NexasX

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I played the fan translation of Zero while waiting for CS1's PC port and it was definitely worth it to understand all of the crossbell references.

Don't play Ao before CS2 though, I went through a translation of it and now I've been pre spoiled on several plot points in CS2 before even playing the game.

Well technically can you really call it a spoiler if it came first? That's the biggest strength of the Kiseki series in terms of world-building and storytelling; They all fit into a bigger picture. Which makes me excited to know where the inevitable Calvard arc fits into this.
 
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Jiraiza

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Even though CS4 hasn't come out yet, I've started to look forward to the new arc. This arc has taken way too long. I want to see new character and new location already.
Here's hoping they go back to form and cut out the harem shenanigans. Cold Steel's definitely overstaying its welcome, though, as much as I love my boy Jusis.
 

Thuddert

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Here's hoping they go back to form and cut out the harem shenanigans. Cold Steel's definitely overstaying its welcome, though, as much as I love my boy Jusis.

Jusis on a horse without name travelling through America uhm Calvard, then meets a cripple he heals with headpats. Together they search for parts of Aidios while President Rocksmith holds a wacky race.

Original Story™
 

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Count me in as another recent convert to the series. Had FC in my steam backlog based on recommendations from threads on the old site, but didn't get around to checking it out until recently. Actually, just finished Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and while trying to fill the void that was left after finishing the main story, I came across a video with suggestions of other games to play if you enjoyed XBC2, and the trails series stood out as the one that had the attributes I valued most out of the suggestions presented.

It's a very different game than XBC2, but I really enjoyed it for different reasons. I haven't played every jrpg, but of the ones I have played, FC easily has the best dialogue I've come across. The characters seem pretty conventional at first, but most are given enough depth to stand on their own as the game progresses. As I've heard others state, Estelle is awesome and her character arc in FC is the most believable I've seen in a jrpg. There is nothing she does that seems out of character, and when she does change, it is gradually, and makes complete sense given the situation.

It was an interesting change to play a story that follows a couple of characters, and is primarily telling their personal journey, and they are pulled into other, bigger events rather than the other way around. I found the characters charming enough to keep playing until the later chapters when the story really picks up, and at that point, it had me hooked.

About 8 hours into SC, and since I've already got that familiarity with the characters, I'm enjoying it even more.

I haven't picked up the third game yet.. how many hours do you think the average playthrough of SC is? Just want to make sure I'm ready to go when I'm done, so I can plan accordingly.
my first playthrough of SC took me 70 hours without putting effort in side quests, you can probably shave off over 20 hours now with turbo mode though
my 3rd playthrough was almost 60 hours doing a full run


That's the thing, playing the Sen games, the events in Crossbell are always in your face and have direct relevance to the narrative.
The attack on Garrelia Fortress is a big deal, then there is a huge tree on the horizon which is just ??? to people who haven't played Crossbell, then you actually play as Lloyd and Rixia which again, is completely ??? without experiencing the previous games. There is nothing comparable to this stuff in the Crossbell games.
You miss out on absolutely nothing in the narrative of Zero and Ao by not having played the Sen games. I would never recommend playing Sen before Crossbell if someone has the choice, in terms of how much the narrative is enriched by having played the other arc, Crossbell and Sen are not equal at all, which makes sense because it's not like they released at the same time. Falcom could expect people to have played through the Crossbell games with the Erebonia arc, and it shows.
yeah and this sentence is completely false, the whole design of sen is to have a new entry-point for the series and have people retroactively go back in the series to catch up. And personally i am of the opinion that what sen shows of crossbell is nothing more than dangling carrots to lure you into those two games. You know shit happens but that is literally it, anyone that plays these games knows that there always is a strong story and setup tied to everything.
Especially when you compare how cs1 and 2 handle the plot threads compared to 3 it is obvious that there is a strong difference in design of those story bits.
Fun fact: after SC Falcom originally wanted to go for the Erebonia arc which they then shifted to Crossbell because they felt a tighter setting would be better and during the crafting of Crossbell they decided to create 3rd to set things up more organically.
 

skLaFarebear

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Yeah I've played CS1 multiple times and am replaying CS2 and still have no idea what the fuck was happening in Crossbell. There are visual cues throughout the games and events mentioned in the newspaper obviously, but I really really doubt that the little bits you pick up here and there are spoiling the entire Crossbell arc.

And there's no way Falcom expects you to play through Crossbell before playing Cold Steel. You don't even need to play through Sky to have a good understanding of the events happening throughout the game. Of course, things could be different for Sen 3, but we're just talking about 1-2 right now.
 

Jiraiza

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Jusis on a horse without name travelling through America uhm Calvard, then meets a cripple he heals with headpats. Together they search for parts of Aidios while President Rocksmith holds a wacky race.

Original Story™
Jusis so jaded after the events of CS3 and CS4. I'd play it, bahaha.
 

Sabin

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I played the fan translation of Zero while waiting for CS1's PC port and it was definitely worth it to understand all of the crossbell references.

Don't play Ao before CS2 though, I went through a translation of it and now I've been pre spoiled on several plot points in CS2 before even playing the game.

How good/bad is the current fantranslation for AO? Allways played with the thought to buy AO and try out the translation for it.
 

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I initially bought Trails in the Sky on PSP way back when, and have it loaded on my Vita. I've considered playing it there instead of PC for the portability option, but I think I would lose the ability to speed up animations which I kind of enjoy. Does the PSP/Vita version have that?
Not only does it not have that, but there are other disadvantages.

FC PSP's script doesn't have any of the terminology changes that were introduced with SC.

SC's script updates are more minor, but it has had some as well (including a character getting a name change). SC is a 2 disc game though, even digitally. Since different parts of the world are on different discs you have to swap a lot late in the game. On PC it is seamless. It's also missing a lot of the optional treasure chest messages, IIRC there are only a handful of repeated ones. On PC there are unique ones for nearly every chest like in FC.

And 3rd is PC exclusive in English, so there is a platform swap involved and no ability to save transfer (you could download a save if you just wanted to use a complete one though).

PSP versions of FC and SC are certainly better than nothing and not terrible or anything (unlike, say, Ys VI), but the PC releases are undoubtedly definitive in every regard except portability (unless you have a GPD-Win).

How good/bad is the current fantranslation for AO? Allways played with the thought to buy AO and try out the translation for it.

Keep in mind Guren's translation is now finished but not released yet. They are planning to release the barely-edited script after sufficient testing which will likely be definitive until Zerker releases his edited version after Zero. IIRC the current patch is mostly okay-ish for the main story, but NPCs and sidequests are machine translated, with some of the machine translation also slipping into main story lines.
 

Lazrgatr

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Well technically can you really call it a spoiler if it came first? That's the biggest strength of the Kiseki series in terms of world-building and storytelling; They all fit into a bigger picture. Which makes me excited to know where the inevitable Calvard arc fits into this.


Probably depends on the person. Some might not want to know
that the imperials won the war
before starting to play CS2. Actually come to think of it I should probably finish CS2 before getting accidentally spoiled posting here.

How good/bad is the current fantranslation for AO? Allways played with the thought to buy AO and try out the translation for it.

Probably better than the one I got which was just someone putting a spreadsheet translation on reddit into the ROM.
 

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PSP versions of FC and SC are certainly better than nothing and not terrible or anything (unlike, say, Ys VI), but the PC releases are undoubtedly definitive in every regard except portability (unless you have a GPD-Win).

I play on my laptop with in-home streaming from time to time, just not as comfortable in bed as an actual handheld.
 

鬼作.

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yeah and this sentence is completely false, the whole design of sen is to have a new entry-point for the series and have people retroactively go back in the series to catch up. And personally i am of the opinion that what sen shows of crossbell is nothing more than dangling carrots to lure you into those two games. You know shit happens but that is literally it, anyone that plays these games knows that there always is a strong story and setup tied to everything.
Especially when you compare how cs1 and 2 handle the plot threads compared to 3 it is obvious that there is a strong difference in design of those story bits.
Fun fact: after SC Falcom originally wanted to go for the Erebonia arc which they then shifted to Crossbell because they felt a tighter setting would be better and during the crafting of Crossbell they decided to create 3rd to set things up more organically.
It's not false, Sen has a shitload of fanservice moments for Crossbell and even playable characters from it. Playing as Lloyd and Rixia sure is a bigger moment than Olivier mentioning something about an academy or [whatever who gives a shit. There is way more to gain from Crossbell--> Sen, than the reverse.

Mod Edit: Spoiler tagged reply. Has spoilers for entire franchise.
 
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ara

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So how are the Zero and Ao translation projects coming along? Since English CS3 and CS4 are still pretty far away (I guess?), I figured I could probably forget about playing CS2 for now and see if I should just wait for the fan translations before continuing with the Cold Steel saga.
 

Mivey

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You aren't missing much, save transfer doesn't really matter. Just download a FC save and go for SC!
Stop posting this. FC is great and awesome, and everyone will be better of playing it first and the revisiting the world in SC.

EDIT:
dammit, saw this old post as new on my browser and its habit to cache old stuff!
 

rickyson33

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So how are the Zero and Ao translation projects coming along? Since English CS3 and CS4 are still pretty far away (I guess?), I figured I could probably forget about playing CS2 for now and see if I should just wait for the fan translations before continuing with the Cold Steel saga.

I keep hearing summer for Zero but unless they're farther than the website would suggest I feel like somewhere around the end of the year feels more realistic(they are presumably somewhere between 50 and 60% because they usually give a percentage update every 10 and the website has said 50 for about 3 and a half months now)

as for Ao the plan is to start the editing process after Zero is finished and it's apparently a longer script as well so i'd be pretty surprised if it's out before 2020

all this is of course assuming that everything continues as planned as well instead of falling apart somewhere along the line which is always a possibility with small groups of fans just doing this stuff as a hobby


edit: actually apparently a few hours ago the lead posted on twitter that there will be an update on the site soon so i'd assume it's about 60% right now
 

ara

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I keep hearing summer for Zero but unless they're farther than the website would suggest I feel like somewhere around the end of the year feels more realistic(they are presumably somewhere between 50 and 60% because they usually give a percentage update every 10 and the website has said 50 for about 3 and a half months now)

as for Ao the plan is to start the editing process after Zero is finished and it's apparently a longer script as well so i'd be pretty surprised if it's out before 2020

all this is of course assuming that everything continues as planned as well instead of falling apart somewhere along the line which is always a possibility with small groups of fans just doing this stuff as a hobby


edit: actually apparently a few hours ago the lead posted on twitter that there will be an update on the site soon so i'd assume it's about 60% right now

Got it, thanks. Doesn't sound too bad to me, I've got PLENTY of stuff to play until then either way.
 

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So how are the Zero and Ao translation projects coming along? Since English CS3 and CS4 are still pretty far away (I guess?), I figured I could probably forget about playing CS2 for now and see if I should just wait for the fan translations before continuing with the Cold Steel saga.
Zero hit the 60% milestone, omgfloofy tweeted a couple of hours ago. supremezerker will be posting an update to the website about the recent developments soon.

I'm looking forward for the promotional campaign for Sen no Kiseki IV to start rolling. Should be next month, maybe pushed into April to give leeway for Kai II.
 

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I've been wondering, how good or bad is Falcom at releasing news/content for their upcoming games? Are they too spoilery? Obviously they are spoilery for people who have not played CS3 like me but I mean if they release too much stuff even for people who have played all the games.
 

preta

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I've been wondering, how good or bad is Falcom at releasing news/content for their upcoming games? Are they too spoilery? Obviously they are spoilery for people who have not played CS3 like me but I mean if they release too much stuff even for people who have played all the games.
They definitely have a habit of spoiling things in their trailers and promo material sometimes. Not usually the most major stuff, but definitely stuff most people would rather not know in retrospect.
 

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I've been wondering, how good or bad is Falcom at releasing news/content for their upcoming games? Are they too spoilery? Obviously they are spoilery for people who have not played CS3 like me but I mean if they release too much stuff even for people who have played all the games.
they do spoil things, especially with trailers and the OP of sen3 basically spoils the whole game. But at the same time those things are very superficial without the context and writing either. And regarding sen3 there also are several screenshots they published in Dengeki that do not happen in the game whatsoever, maybe it is content cut for 4 but obviously that is still up in the air.
 

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they do spoil things, especially with trailers and the OP of sen3 basically spoils the whole game. But at the same time those things are very superficial without the context and writing either. And regarding sen3 there also are several screenshots they published in Dengeki that do not happen in the game whatsoever, maybe it is content cut for 4 but obviously that is still up in the air.
Are those still around? I remember that happening but don't remember the context around them.
 

preta

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Are those still around? I remember that happening but don't remember the context around them.
Some of them were just unused camera angles or slightly altered dialogue in existing scenes, but there's one that I recall
involving an encounter with McBurn in a field of Pleroma
that is not in the game at all.
 

Tonton

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I remember once looking for Sen no Kiseki merchandise in their site and getting a big Crossbell character spoiler
 

solari

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Got to Ch4 in CS1 and oh boy is this game starting to get pretty exciting.

REAN BLANCO was actually pretty awesome. Cheesy, but awesome. Good to get some back story for him since they've been kinda throwing it in your face for the last little bit. Emma has obviously been up to something since the start, but it's starting to become more apparent what the deal is so I am looking forward to answer on that. I actually saw the Sen4 of Rean Blanco chained up, but I didn't really put the white hair and red eyes together and I'm glad I didn't. Makes the Promo art pretty awesome and really drives me to want to catch up to the series much faster. Elise sucks, the brother complex thing is pretty disappointing because the game has been pretty good at using anime tropes well for the most part and kinda avoiding a lot of the things that would usually make me hate a character/series.

I think I mentioned in my last post that Olivier was in the beginning of Ch4 and it really made me wish I had the foresight to know I was supposed to play Trails in the Sky first or that they were even related at all...

Sorry for the long rambling, really enjoying the game.
 

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Got to Ch4 in CS1 and oh boy is this game starting to get pretty exciting.

REAN BLANCO was actually pretty awesome. Cheesy, but awesome. Good to get some back story for him since they've been kinda throwing it in your face for the last little bit. Emma has obviously been up to something since the start, but it's starting to become more apparent what the deal is so I am looking forward to answer on that. I actually saw the Sen4 of Rean Blanco chained up, but I didn't really put the white hair and red eyes together and I'm glad I didn't. Makes the Promo art pretty awesome and really drives me to want to catch up to the series much faster. Elise sucks, the brother complex thing is pretty disappointing because the game has been pretty good at using anime tropes well for the most part and kinda avoiding a lot of the things that would usually make me hate a character/series.

I think I mentioned in my last post that Olivier was in the beginning of Ch4 and it really made me wish I had the foresight to know I was supposed to play Trails in the Sky first or that they were even related at all...

Sorry for the long rambling, really enjoying the game.
Don't worry, when you go back to play the Sky games you'll catch a lot of references to Cold Steel and that's pretty neat, too.