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Messofanego

Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,178
UK
At which point should I drop the thought of seeing someone?

I'd love to fall in love and forget about everything else, but it feels like I'm not completely over my last relationship and in search of some stability in times where everything else in my life is changing.

Whenever I fall it's at full throttle and I know the disadvantages, that's not the problem. It's more that she's 5 years younger and in the middle of her studies, while I'm transitioning into workforce. Couple that with a distance problem, so we'd see us only on weekends (which makes dating hard as is).

Guess I don't want to lead her on now, only to realize in a year it's not what I want...? Fuck. What do I want?

Is it wrong to pursue her and committing to a relationship, when I don't know if that's what I want?
Better you're honest early and see what she makes of it rather than leading someone on that you can't give your all to.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,159
China
iam sorry, i have been doing this for so many times, i feel like buying a drink for a girl is simply prostutition with not even able to touch the girl. i find this very sexist and dont want to buy drinks/food for girls anymore since, this have never worked out. i dont pay money for a stupid on the go small-talk with a girl.
i smile, i can talk, but it does not end into getting the number and if i get the number, its a faulty one(i usually double check the number, she gives me) sometimes girls want to give me facebook, but i deleted facebook 4 years ago, because it tends to take away a lot of time from me, so yeah.



the moment i like a girl or feel attracted to one, its already over for becoming nice or comfortable around her. so yeah, anime seems so easy peasy...



iam not too much into excercising, but i go for a jog every 2 days 5-7km, so i would call myself fit, but not buff. this gives me zero in this "game".


unfortunately not for me.


this sounds so like me. except then i am 30 and i dont have any real experience. and my friends are dicks not helping me out at all. i completely forgot to engage myself in uni in this topic(vidya, drugs, alcohol and parties were more fun than most girls at that time) so now i feel sort of fucked ;(
i really feel, my life is just stupid and over, i dont want to die alone, iam not asking for dozens of girls to lay, i just want one, who likes me genuinely and not for monetary or material reasons :(

Look, you've got too many questionable attitudes about life. I don't even think your looking for advice you just want to come into this topic and complain about how hard it is, how it's everybody else, anime, experience, being brown, your friends. Self pity is a great woman repellant and until you get therapy to correct that you will remain forever alone and complaining about it.
 

Jpop

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,655
I fucked up.

I was setting up a date with a girl for a play at my CEOs theatre, she was being flaky so I invited another girl.

Other girl makes plans and says yes, and right after that the first girl came back and said she'd be able to make it now.

My only choice is to try to reschedule on date for a different day and see the play twice.
 

Cat Pee

Member
Oct 25, 2017
424
iam sorry, i have been doing this for so many times, i feel like buying a drink for a girl is simply prostutition with not even able to touch the girl. i find this very sexist and dont want to buy drinks/food for girls anymore since, this have never worked out. i dont pay money for a stupid on the go small-talk with a girl.
i smile, i can talk, but it does not end into getting the number and if i get the number, its a faulty one(i usually double check the number, she gives me) sometimes girls want to give me facebook, but i deleted facebook 4 years ago, because it tends to take away a lot of time from me, so yeah.



the moment i like a girl or feel attracted to one, its already over for becoming nice or comfortable around her. so yeah, anime seems so easy peasy...



iam not too much into excercising, but i go for a jog every 2 days 5-7km, so i would call myself fit, but not buff. this gives me zero in this "game".


unfortunately not for me.


this sounds so like me. except then i am 30 and i dont have any real experience. and my friends are dicks not helping me out at all. i completely forgot to engage myself in uni in this topic(vidya, drugs, alcohol and parties were more fun than most girls at that time) so now i feel sort of fucked ;(
i really feel, my life is just stupid and over, i dont want to die alone, iam not asking for dozens of girls to lay, i just want one, who likes me genuinely and not for monetary or material reasons :(

I'm Southeastern Asian dude of fairly average looks, living in a small city in the Midwest in the US (population: white as fuck) who had no dating experience until I was around 21, watched unhealthy amounts of Rom-Com anime in my teenage years, and I don't have a Facebook account. Unlike you, I do not have problems getting second dates and beyond or not having someone be interested in me. We're quite similar in some ways, so why is this the case?

It's attitude.

You have a severely toxic mindset about a bunch of things, as already highlighted by other posters above. Paying for their food/drink on a date does not mean that they're "prostituting" themselves and then not allowing physical intimacy. Christ, just mention the topic of splitting the bill if you don't want to pay for all of it. The whole point of food or drink being there is that it's something that's keeping the both of you occupied as you talk and try to figure out whether or not the other person is sane. If you have issues in breaking the physical contact barrier, then your behavior on the date is broadcasting so many red flags that they do not want to initiate or reciprocate physical contact because you're making them uncomfortable. Are you saying shit that's as stupid as what you've posted so far? Are you coming on too strong? Do you talk about nothing except how you have no experience with women? You claim that you "can talk" (I don't even think this is true, considering that you don't even have the courage to bring up splitting the bill), but what the hell are you saying on the date that's turning off women every time? Re-evaluate yourself and consider the things you've said to women in the past who have rejected you.

Also, your friends are not dicks for not helping you. They have no responsibility to help you with finding a date or picking up women. The fact that they listen to you whine about it means that they've already done more than they need to. They are individuals with their own life to take charge of. Furthermore, they probably stopped hanging out with you because of your bad attitude and shitty views, such as going to the gym only for picking up women and being talked to instead of, y'know, just being there to work out and improve yourself. You think that everything you do has to lead to a woman wanting to be with you, instead of just for your own personal benefit or enjoyment. That's a fucking shitty mindset to have and you need to drop it immediately.

TL;DR: Stop whining and change your attitude.
 
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CQC

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,711
Still new to tinder. So I've been messaging a girl I matched with, but she told me she wasn't looking for anything after I asked her what she wants out of tinder.

We've exchanged snapchats and have been talking on there. Offered to play two truths and a lie at some point once I told her I was genuinely interested in wanting to get to know her.

She left me read after a few rounds. Obvious answer to me seems no, but should I even bother messaging her again?
 

Zellia

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,769
UK
Riding the Tinder train again. I've had zero luck in the past so not expecting anything but, hey, persistence I guess.
 

Jokab

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
875
Still new to tinder. So I've been messaging a girl I matched with, but she told me she wasn't looking for anything after I asked her what she wants out of tinder.

We've exchanged snapchats and have been talking on there. Offered to play two truths and a lie at some point once I told her I was genuinely interested in wanting to get to know her.

She left me read after a few rounds. Obvious answer to me seems no, but should I even bother messaging her again?
You're messaging too much. Just ask her out already.


For myself, I'm deciding to go with the girl that moved away for three months. Kind of batshit maybe but it feels right at the moment. I even went back to the girl that I originally blew off for the move-girl (and I told her that's the reason) but in the end I don't think we click past one night stands, so I dropped her again lol. I feel kind of terrible for it but she took it well, at least over text.

I promised to go visit the girl that moved and I will. Should be good!
 

Subpar Scrub

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,576
Do your friends own any videogame forums?

Lmao

Riding the Tinder train again. I've had zero luck in the past so not expecting anything but, hey, persistence I guess.

Good luck man. If you need help with bios or pics, let us know.

Bomi-Chan Go find people to hang out with and chat with, so that you can develop some social skills that aren't derived from anime.

Also, what country are you from and where are you currently living?
 

Subpar Scrub

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,576
I had a feeling this was it. So just message her again asking her out after dropping the convo?

Just shoot a message asking if she'd like to go out on Friday or Saturday or whatevs. After you do, just move on from it and don't worry about a response. If you get a yes, awesome, if not, that's just what happens.

Remember: don't invest too much time and effort into people who you haven't met or barely know.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,159
China
I fucked up.

I was setting up a date with a girl for a play at my CEOs theatre, she was being flaky so I invited another girl.

Other girl makes plans and says yes, and right after that the first girl came back and said she'd be able to make it now.

My only choice is to try to reschedule on date for a different day and see the play twice.

Tell girl one you've found someone else to go with, she didn't respect your time and thought you would wait around for her while she no doubt looked for other options. Girl two sounds much better, no messing around and accepted your offer. Set up another date with girl one but it does not need to be the theatre, this sends the message that you are in demand and won't have your time wasted. Show respect and confidence in yourself otherwise you'll be inviting a lot of drama into your life.
 

Coolwhip

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,628
I removed the pictures of my ex from my Instagram. It's a bit of a sad page now with barely any photos >_>
 

Jokab

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
875
Honestly my heart stung a bit when I noticed my ex wasn't following me on neither instagram nor snapchat anymore. Still friends on facebook tho, and her sister is still following me everywhere lol. I like to think I'm over her at this point but not 100% apparently.
 

Stardestroyer

Member
Oct 31, 2017
1,819
I fucked up.

I was setting up a date with a girl for a play at my CEOs theatre, she was being flaky so I invited another girl.

Other girl makes plans and says yes, and right after that the first girl came back and said she'd be able to make it now.

My only choice is to try to reschedule on date for a different day and see the play twice.
No. You don't have to see the play twice. Prioritize the one who seem interested in you by not flaking.

You can do something else with girl1 assuming she doesn't flake out. But focus on girl 2, she seemed to care enough to respond quickly.

A flaky girl probably doesn't respect you or your time. If she wanted to go, she would have prioritize this.

Don't ignore what you might have for the possibility of another.
 
Nov 17, 2017
12,864
I fucked up.

I was setting up a date with a girl for a play at my CEOs theatre, she was being flaky so I invited another girl.

Other girl makes plans and says yes, and right after that the first girl came back and said she'd be able to make it now.

My only choice is to try to reschedule on date for a different day and see the play twice.
You didn't fuck up.

You did the right thing. She was being flaky and not respecting your time so you found someone who wouldn't do that. Second Girl sounds much better.
 

Deleted member 4452

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,377
I fucked up.

I was setting up a date with a girl for a play at my CEOs theatre, she was being flaky so I invited another girl.

Other girl makes plans and says yes, and right after that the first girl came back and said she'd be able to make it now.

My only choice is to try to reschedule on date for a different day and see the play twice.
Don't bend over backwards for Girl 1. Just tell her you made other plans and offer an alternative.
 

Raptomex

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,249
I don't understand the anime obsession. I can't get into anime, myself, and I really don't understand what makes it so special that people just get absorbed into it as opposed to anything else.
 

smisk

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,002
I removed the pictures of my ex from my Instagram. It's a bit of a sad page now with barely any photos >_>

What do you guys generally do about social media stuff when you break up with someone? I only have one ex, but she posted a lot of pictures of us on fb. We broke up about four years ago, in a fairly mutual and agreeable way, and neither of us took the pictures down (I didn't really have the heart to at the time, and felt like I wanted to be able to remember our time together). Fast forward a few years and I'm seriously dating someone else for the first time. She mentioned the other day that she was looking thru my facebook pics and was surprised I still had so many with my ex. I don't necessarily think she wants me to take them down, but I can see why it'd make her feel weird.
My ex and I are still friends on fb but don't talk at all, I dunno if it'd be weird for me to abruptly untag myself from them years later..
 

Coolwhip

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,628
What do you guys generally do about social media stuff when you break up with someone? I only have one ex, but she posted a lot of pictures of us on fb. We broke up about four years ago, in a fairly mutual and agreeable way, and neither of us took the pictures down (I didn't really have the heart to at the time, and felt like I wanted to be able to remember our time together). Fast forward a few years and I'm seriously dating someone else for the first time. She mentioned the other day that she was looking thru my facebook pics and was surprised I still had so many with my ex. I don't necessarily think she wants me to take them down, but I can see why it'd make her feel weird.
My ex and I are still friends on fb but don't talk at all, I dunno if it'd be weird for me to abruptly untag myself from them years later..

Just ask your new gf what she prefers.
 

WorldofMiku

attempted ban circumvention by using an alt
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
824
What do you guys generally do about social media stuff when you break up with someone? I only have one ex, but she posted a lot of pictures of us on fb. We broke up about four years ago, in a fairly mutual and agreeable way, and neither of us took the pictures down (I didn't really have the heart to at the time, and felt like I wanted to be able to remember our time together). Fast forward a few years and I'm seriously dating someone else for the first time. She mentioned the other day that she was looking thru my facebook pics and was surprised I still had so many with my ex. I don't necessarily think she wants me to take them down, but I can see why it'd make her feel weird.
My ex and I are still friends on fb but don't talk at all, I dunno if it'd be weird for me to abruptly untag myself from them years later..
Ask your current gf. Who cares about your ex.
 

Messofanego

Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,178
UK
Never watched any. I was forced made to watch Natuto season one, apparently it gets better many episodes later. Does Akira count?
Akira counts. I think you'd be into the more psychological or adult ones like Paranoia Agent (best anime ever), Welcome to the NHK (which is all about putting up a mirror to overzealous/lonely/desperate anime fans), Serial Experiments Lain (more grounded cyberpunk loneliness), or The Flowers Of Evil (teenage angst).


On Netflix there is Devilman's Crybaby if you like intense and unique and the classic Black Lagoon if a gun-toting lady protagonist are up your alley.
 

Starlightmuse

Saw the truth behind the copied door
Member
Oct 27, 2017
414
So I have a date scheduled for tomorrow night. It's my first date since my gf dumped me 6 months ago, so I'm kind of nervous. The thing is that I don't really know what to talk with this girl, I met her in Tinder and the only thing that I know that we have in common is that we both are studying psychology in the university, but I don't think talking about studies is a good idea.

Also, we still haven't decided where to go, I think I prefer to go to have a coffee, since I find going to a bar on the first date a bit weird.
 

Addie

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,700
DFW
Going to a bar on a first date isn't weird at all. Just be exited to see her and see where the conversation goes.
 
Nov 17, 2017
12,864
So I have a date scheduled for tomorrow night. It's my first date since my gf dumped me 6 months ago, so I'm kind of nervous. The thing is that I don't really know what to talk with this girl, I met her in Tinder and the only thing that I know that we have in common is that we both are studying psychology in the university, but I don't think talking about studies is a good idea.

Also, we still haven't decided where to go, I think I prefer to go to have a coffee, since I find going to a bar on the first date a bit weird.
I've been to bars on a first date before. It's really not bad. Sometimes it can be even better than a coffee date. You have a drink or two and have a nice conversation.

If you do go to a bar, I recommend sitting at the actual bar instead of the table.
 

Uno Venova

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,858
So I have a date scheduled for tomorrow night. It's my first date since my gf dumped me 6 months ago, so I'm kind of nervous. The thing is that I don't really know what to talk with this girl, I met her in Tinder and the only thing that I know that we have in common is that we both are studying psychology in the university, but I don't think talking about studies is a good idea.

Also, we still haven't decided where to go, I think I prefer to go to have a coffee, since I find going to a bar on the first date a bit weird.
The question game, what she did that day, what she's binge watching or reading etc it'll go fine from there
 

Deleted member 4452

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,377
The thing is that I don't really know what to talk with this girl
Just a quick glance in OT:

Barbara Streisand cloned her dog, twice

Zaxby's is doing a poll for their next sauce

Tokyo 2020 Olympics Mascots Revealed

Dick Hygiene 101: An Introduction to a Pleasant Penis

My first Hemorrhoid: A tale of a fiery arse hole

STI/STD Scares: Ever have one?

So many possible topics.
 

Blitzrules240

Self requested ban
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
28,811
Midwest
Date last night went very well.

3 breweries in one night, lively conversation, and some heavy making out when she dropped me off (because Uber prices were ridiculous)

And then today, we went out for lunch since I had the day off and it was nice as well.

She's really cool but I'm still gonna try to date other girls, still need to plan with the other girl I was talking to.

But yeah, DatingEra, I'm feeling pretty fantastic.
 

Jokab

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
875
How is going to a bar for a date weird? All of my recent dates have been to bars. We get 2-3-4 drinks and have good conversation. If it's going well you can switch places, it makes the date more fun IMO.
 

Ernest

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,486
So.Cal.
If you have them in your area, try a wine bar, or a brewery (depending on which your date likes better; wine or beer).
They can be far more interesting places for a first date than a coffee shop, more comfortable than a typical bar, and less pressure than a full on restaurant.
 
Nov 17, 2017
12,864
How is going to a bar for a date weird? All of my recent dates have been to bars. We get 2-3-4 drinks and have good conversation. If it's going well you can switch places, it makes the date more fun IMO.
I can see where they're coming from. One of my friends says she won't go on a first date with a guy if he invites her to a bar at night. She says because it's usually at a bar she doesn't know in the guy's neighborhood and the guy will try to get her to drink and try to lead it on late since it's night and try and make it a hook up. Because of that, she only will go out with a guy for the first date if he suggests coffee during the daylight. This is all from Tinder dates. That kind of made me think about how it might be from a woman's perspective when a guy invites her to a bar at night when they're still strangers. The last first date I was on, I did coffee during the day partly because I thought she might feel safer about meeting me that way.

That said, I have gone on bar first dates at night before that. Never actually got drunk (2- 3 drinks tops) and we always ended the date at the bar. So it's definitely not a weird first date.
 

Starlightmuse

Saw the truth behind the copied door
Member
Oct 27, 2017
414
I can see where they're coming from. One of my friends says she won't go on a first date with a guy if he invites her to a bar at night. She says because it's usually at a bar she doesn't know in the guy's neighborhood and the guy will try to get her to drink and try to lead it on late since it's night and try and make it a hook up. Because of that, she only will go out with a guy for the first date if he suggests coffee during the daylight. This is all from Tinder dates. That kind of made me think about how it might be from a woman's perspective when a guy invites her to a bar at night when they're still strangers. The last first date I was on, I did coffee during the day partly because I thought she might feel safer about meeting me that way.

That said, I have gone on bar first dates at night before that. Never actually got drunk (2- 3 drinks tops) and we always ended the date at the bar. So it's definitely not a weird first date.
Aside from that, most bars in my zone have very loud music, so it's difficult to have a steady conversation with someone you don't already know.
 

CQC

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,711
You're messaging too much. Just ask her out already.

Just shoot a message asking if she'd like to go out on Friday or Saturday or whatevs. After you do, just move on from it and don't worry about a response. If you get a yes, awesome, if not, that's just what happens.

Remember: don't invest too much time and effort into people who you haven't met or barely know.

Pretty much. If she doesn't respond then you know she's not interested and you can move on.

Asked her out and she hit me with "maybe I'll let you know". Responded by saying Alright. Going to take that as a no despite the maybe.
 

Bomi-Chan

Member
Nov 8, 2017
665
A couple of things.

What country are you from?

Please look into therapy. You seem to be looking for happiness in a relationship and that's not how that works. Work on yourself as an individual, you'll be more attractive to others if you you're happy with yourself.

The gym really isn't a place to meet up with people. Addie was suggesting going to the gym so you could work on yourself. Working out is helpful for a better mood and honestly f you feel better about how you look you'll probably be a little happier as well.

Get a hobby. You say you don't really do much and really know how to interact with people because of anime. Well if you get a hobby you can meet people and pick up some social skills as well.

iam from germany, iam born here, but as some might know, we still got issues about the whereabouts of one individual. my skincolour reveals, that my parents are from southern asia.

and yes, i really seek happiness, because i hate being alone. in fact i desperately try to find something not to stay glued all day in my basement on my computer. everyone suggesting me going to a gym: i really feel odd going there. i am 65kg/175cm, iam fit. i dont need any more gym. i would have loved to go to the gym as how my friends did it in the past, hitting up girls and enjoying life and stuff… but it never turned out that way for me.

well i have a hobby but its just a loner-hobby. i need something to interact with people. i also travel a lot, but i never get into any decent conversations with people. last year i travelled across asia with my backpack, but i barely got in touch with anyone. mostly in buses i got some random small talk and no exchange of information or… well greater contact. maybe 1-3 days of hanging out in bars… but that was it.

Do your friends own any videogame forums?

Getting healthier/more fit? Sculping a more desirable body (for yourself)? Gaining self-confidence? Having an objective and working hard for it? Learning self-discipline? Endorphins feel good.

i dont feel that having a fitter body will eventually lead to more self-confidence: i do 200 situps a day, i jog every second day and i cycle 30-50km on the weekend. i dont feel happy or any self-discipline and i dont feel being fit being any sort of advantage in this whole thing.

Your use of the word retarded, not cool dude.

Very simple question for you - why should a girl date you?

well, i think i am, i dont know what else can describe this phenomena?

why a girl should date me:

-i look passable

-i am smart

-i am funny

-i know a lot of stuff

-i would love to spend my time with this person to get to know more of her.

I said damn.

Don't let a single rejection disable you for weeks. As generic as it sounds, there are plenty of fish in the sea and this is true. Just because one or twenty women don't want to go out with you means absolutely nothing. Pick yourself up - you shouldn't even be knocked down in the first place.

What's more concerning is your attitude. You need to see a therapist. You aren't going to attract anyone with the depressive vibes you're giving out. Work on and take care of yourself first.

thanks for the advice but i mean… more than 200 have rejected me. not once did i hold hands, got a kiss or got a… well hug where the person was willingly hugging me. it felt more like a shibboleth…

i dont know what a therapist would do in this case. i think i am already a closed case.

Your life isn't over at 30, man. I get that it's harsh to wake up and feel behind. But there's plenty of time to find what you're looking for.

And hey, you did what you thought was fun at the time. That's called "living life" - girls or no girls. It's not something you should have regrets about.
this is what i want to believe and think. but i sort of got into this kind of cage of thoughts where i cant free myself of getting depressed by everyone around me. everyone is nailing their goals while i feel behind, not achieving anything.

You think that you're the only 30 year old to never get into a relationship? It's sorta ridiculous, you could land something tomorrow for all you know. You can't have an attitude that is this defeatist. You're not 90 years old on your death bed, get a damn grip here.

Can you not refer to this as being retarded? On top of the fact that it's super juvenile language for a 30 year old, not getting a girl is not equivalent with a mental handicap. Again, christ.

Handicapped people are still people You need to rearrange your whole view of what you think and see people as. It seems you have very little actual respect for the people around. I suggest you go to some sort of therapy if for nothing else than to just get some perspective.

It's not a dire situation.

well, i am sorry, that i give you these bad vibes. everyone around me has achieved something already in their lives. i feel left behind. i get told by everyone what a fucking loser i am, not living on my own, fucking up my college degree, not being married or in a relationship in general everything just sucks. i would love to have someone showing me something new and better in this miserable life i live now.

yes, my language may sound juvenile. this might because i hang out a lot on the internet same as my friends when we write on whatsapp.

well, i see it as a mental handicap if you are not even close at getting a girl with 30. people around me told me the same. some said it as a joke, some good friends, but if strangers or some acquaintances say that, i feel very offended by that which is why i wont talk to these kind of people anymore.

WHY IS EVERYONE COMING AROUND THE CORNER WITH A THERAPIST???

i only wanted a suggestion where to find a nice and easy place to chat up girls without appearing too weird/creepy/smudgy.

Look, you've got too many questionable attitudes about life. I don't even think your looking for advice you just want to come into this topic and complain about how hard it is, how it's everybody else, anime, experience, being brown, your friends. Self pity is a great woman repellant and until you get therapy to correct that you will remain forever alone and complaining about it.
… thanks for your advice, see above.

I'm Southeastern Asian dude of fairly average looks, living in a small city in the Midwest in the US (population: white as fuck) who had no dating experience until I was around 21, watched unhealthy amounts of Rom-Com anime in my teenage years, and I don't have a Facebook account. Unlike you, I do not have problems getting second dates and beyond or not having someone be interested in me. We're quite similar in some ways, so why is this the case?

It's attitude.

You have a severely toxic mindset about a bunch of things, as already highlighted by other posters above. Paying for their food/drink on a date does not mean that they're "prostituting" themselves and then not allowing physical intimacy. Christ, just mention the topic of splitting the bill if you don't want to pay for all of it. The whole point of food or drink being there is that it's something that's keeping the both of you occupied as you talk and try to figure out whether or not the other person is sane. If you have issues in breaking the physical contact barrier, then your behavior on the date is broadcasting so many red flags that they do not want to initiate or reciprocate physical contact because you're making them uncomfortable. Are you saying shit that's as stupid as what you've posted so far? Are you coming on too strong? Do you talk about nothing except how you have no experience with women? You claim that you "can talk" (I don't even think this is true, considering that you don't even have the courage to bring up splitting the bill), but what the hell are you saying on the date that's turning off women every time? Re-evaluate yourself and consider the things you've said to women in the past who have rejected you.

Also, your friends are not dicks for not helping you. They have no responsibility to help you with finding a date or picking up women. The fact that they listen to you whine about it means that they've already done more than they need to. They are individuals with their own life to take charge of. Furthermore, they probably stopped hanging out with you because of your bad attitude and shitty views, such as going to the gym only for picking up women and being talked to instead of, y'know, just being there to work out and improve yourself. You think that everything you do has to lead to a woman wanting to be with you, instead of just for your own personal benefit or enjoyment. That's a fucking shitty mindset to have and you need to drop it immediately.

TL;DR: Stop whining and change your attitude.

hi thanks for your honest opinion as well as sharing your experience.

no, i have the courage of bringing up splitting the bill but beforehand: i have drink with a girl, i never said that i "invite" her. so after having a drink, she stands up, goes to the desk and says, my nice company pays the bill. what kind of behaviour is that? this happened quite a lot of times to me(each time with another girl). i think the third or fourth time i actually said, we're splitting the bill, which lead to a very surprised and sort of angry (i guess?) face and saying a weird good bye to me. i have also suggested going to a park, playing mini golf or something. most of the times, girls are not interested in engaging in physical activities. since the refugee crisis, going out in the evening seems like a no-go too…. so here i am trying to arrange a date during daytime. mostly girls are very picky about time and place where i already lose confidence and interest, when i have to take care about everything instead of finding something together which we are both interested in.

i never talk about my experience with women with my date. i talk about myself, i ask a lot of questions and i listen.

i think i explained it in a bad way, but i'll explain it for you again: i was never the person initially wanting to go to the gym. i registered because one of my friends suggested it. i really thought this was, because they were interested in getting buffed. instead they let me down after 2-3 months, when they hooked up with girls from the gym. i ended up hanging out there alone for another month and gave up, because i felt uncomfortable there. i never hooked up there, i never spoke there with anyone nor did anyone engage into talks with me. so please stop accusing me of something i have never done. i dont know what kind of shitty view it is: to NOT slap women on the ass, or treat them like sex objects where you have to fucking pamper them with money or goods so they are going out with you or are interested in you. because this is what my friends suggested me and i said i will not engage in something like this. it worked for my friends, but i can never imagine that these methods would work for me.

and yes, you are right: my friends have no obligation or responsibility to help me. that is true. but i think as friends, you should help each other out in life. and i think you might be also right, that my bitchin and whining sort of stopped hanging out with me. except the fact that they only are living in their couple world, which is, i assume, the main reason quitting on me.
i dont know how to handle this situation and i really struggle. i know that online dating is not working for me. but it fails in real life…. what else is there for me?

again thanks everyone for your honest and straight answers, because i want to work on myself to solve this problem.
 

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WHY IS EVERYONE COMING AROUND THE CORNER WITH A THERAPIST???

Because of this:

thanks for the advice but i mean… more than 200 have rejected me. not once did i hold hands, got a kiss or got a… well hug where the person was willingly hugging me. it felt more like a shibboleth

i dont know what a therapist would do in this case. i think i am already a closed case. [...]

i only wanted a suggestion where to find a nice and easy place to chat up girls without appearing too weird/creepy/smudgy. [...]

i dont know how to handle this situation and i really struggle. i know that online dating is not working for me. but it fails in real life…. what else is there for me?

again thanks everyone for your honest and straight answers, because i want to work on myself to solve this problem.

We simply can't help you in this thread.