Media Create Sales: Week 8, 2018 (Feb 19 - Feb 25)

Yunyo · Mar 1, 2018

Hm... I am pessimistic on my outlook for VC4 in Japan. The game is an extremely polished version of the formula, and doesn't require previous games to play and understand what's going on. But Valkyria games tend to have typical sales patterns. I would guess 50k launch, 100k+ LTD when all is said and done for the PS4 version.

I have no idea what the Switch version will do. I hope I am pleasantly surprised...

I think in the West it will do better due to higher awareness of the brand overall, Sega of America / Atlus as a combined whole is way better in marketing than the past, and are bringing it overall to more platforms with a not-so-subtle hint about the upcoming PC version. But this is an MC thread and we don't receive NPD number leaks anymore, so guessing whether or not it will sell better in the West is rather meaningless.

Kaitos · Mar 1, 2018

So is BotW going to end up as the best selling Zelda ever in Japan?

vala · Mar 1, 2018

We can't tell right now, but it's very clear that it will be the best selling Zelda since the FC games, which is pretty amazing!

Chris1964 · Mar 1, 2018

Kaitos said:
So is BotW going to end up as the best selling Zelda ever in Japan?

[FCM] The Legend of Zelda |Disc System| <ADV> (Nintendo) {1986.02.21} (¥2.600) - 1.690.000
[FCM] Zelda II: The Adventure of Link |Disc System| <ADV> (Nintendo) {1987.01.14} (¥2.600) - 1.610.000
[N64] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time <ADV> (Nintendo) {1998.11.21} (¥6.800) - 1.460.000
[SFC] The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past _Retail/Nintendo Power_ <ADV> (Nintendo) {1991.11.21} (¥8.000) - 1.160.000

[NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 900.000 (until 31 December 2017)
[WIU] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 120.000 (until 31 March 2017)

By March 2018 it will have outsold A Link to the Past.

vala · Mar 1, 2018

Chris1964 said:
[N64] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time <ADV> (Nintendo) {1998.11.21} (¥6.800) - 1.460.000

You sure about that?
http://gameranking.jp/ranking-sale/
It says 1.143.570 here

Chris1964 · Mar 1, 2018

I think I'll trust shipments from Nintendo from 2 decades old Famitsu data.

Media Create has this:

[N64] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time <ADV> (Nintendo) {1998.11.21} (¥6.800) - 1.257.205

skullwaker · Mar 1, 2018

Kaitos said:
So is BotW going to end up as the best selling Zelda ever in Japan?

I think it's a bit early to say tbh. But I think there's a strong possibility it could sell more than Ocarina of Time, which would be incredible.

Ryng™ · Mar 1, 2018

We can not have a precise idea of how Wii U shipments will looks like by the end of March 2018, all we can do is do an estimate with the 1.5 million sold Nintendo annunced.

With Switch, we can look at the trend.

Code:

+--------+-----+-------+
| Q1 2017| 2,76 | 2,76 |
| Q2 2017| 1,16 | 3,92 |
| Q3 2017| 0,78 | 4,70 |
| Q4 2017| 2,00 | 6,70 |
+--------+-----+-------+

Now, we know that Zelda BotW sold a bit over 6 million, which mean there are a bit less than 700,000 units in stock. In this quarter, i think is likely to expect Zelda Switch easy over 150K in Japan, i'd say 170K seem likely, (as it sold 110K so far, and is selling above 10K per week). Big sales comes from west tho, America alone is likely gonna be double compared to Japan, and then there is Europe and rest of world. I think that Zelda Breath of the Wild sales should be around 800,000 for this quarter, which mean it is gonna surpass the shipments by end of 2017. It depend on how many units Nintendo want in stock, but i believe 500K or so for a leggy game like Zelda (i know it seem weird to say) seem legit, so my guess is that they'll ship 600K for Breath of the Wild on Switch.

This put Zelda Breath of the wild Switch at 7.3 million lifetime. If Wii U version ship 1.7 million by the end of March 2018, then 9 million will happen. Gonna be super close tho, worst scenario i see is 8.7-8.8 million.

silpheed-mcd · Mar 1, 2018

SWITCH GAMES, Ranking Sales, Japan, 2018 (Feb 19 - Feb 25)

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Media-Create: 41 games

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01 - Splatoon 2 (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} - 2.062.345
02 - Super Mario Odyssey (Nintendo) (2017.10.27) - 1.626.145
03 - Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) (2017.04.28) - 1.363.646
04 - The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Nintendo) (2017.03.03) - 883.780
05 - 1-2-Switch (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} – 403.972
06 - ARMS (Nintendo) (2017.06.16) – 369.040
07 - Pokken Tournament DX (Pokemon Co.) (2017.09.22) - 222.781
08 - Monster Hunter Double Cross: Nintendo Switch Ver. (Capcom) (2017.08.25) - 214.492
09 - Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (Nintendo) (2017.12.01) - 181.254
10 - Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle (Nintendo) {2018.01.18} - 151.225 (+1)
11 - Super Bomberman R (Konami) (2017.03.03) – 145.029
12 - Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 for Nintendo Switch (Bandai Namco Games) (2017.09.07) – 114.728
13 - FIFA 18 (Electronic Arts) (2017.09.29) - 78.169
14 - Fire Emblem Warriors (Koei Tecmo) (2017.09.28) – 53.531
15 - Sumikko Gurashi: Sumikko Park e Youkoso (Nippon Columbia) (2017.12.07) - 47.989
16 - Snipperclips Plus (Nintendo) {2017.11.10} - 47.124
17 - Dragon Quest Heroes I & II for Nintendo Switch (Square Enix) (2017.03.03) – 41.419
18 - Seiken Densetsu Collection (Square Enix) (2017.06.01) – 37.728
19 - Bayonetta 2 (Nintendo) {2018.02.17} - 26.669 (11.694 Climax Edition) (+1)
20 - One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3 - Deluxe Edition (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.12.21} - 23.014
21 - Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (Capcom) (2017.05.26) – 21.139
22 - The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (Bethesda Softworks) {2018.02.01} - 19.547
23 - Dragon Quest X: 5000-nen no Harukanaru Kokyou e Online (Square Enix) (2017.11.16) - 18.444
24 - Puyo Puyo Tetris S (Sega) (2017.03.03) - 17.323
25 - Bayonetta - Climax Edition (Nintendo) {2018.02.17} - 11.694
26 - Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star (Marvelous) (2017.07.20) - 10.247
27 - Dragon Quest X: All in One Package (Square Enix) (2017.09.21) - 9.482
28 - Minna de Wai Wai! Spelunker (Square Enix) (2017.04.20) - 7.447
29 - Resident Evil: Revelations Collection (Capcom) (2017.11.30) - 6.540
30 - Lost Sphear (Square Enix) (2017.10.12) - 5.770
31 - Nobunaga's Ambition: Taishi (Koei Tecmo) (2017.11.30) - 5.636
32 - LEGO City Undercover (Warner Entertainment Japan) (2017.06.29) - 5.351
33 - I am Setsuna (Square Enix) {2017.03.03} - 4.753
34 - Sonic Forces (Sega) (2017.11.09) - 4.686
35 - One Piece: Unlimited World Red – Deluxe Edition (Bandai Namco Games) (2017.08.24) - 4.652
36 - Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon (Koei Tecmo) (2017.08.31) - 4.463
37 - Disgaea 5 Complete (Nippon Ichi Software) {2017.03.03} - 3.477
38 - Cars 3: Driven to Win (Warner Entertainment Japan) (2017.07.20) - 3.220
39 - NBA 2K18 (Take-Two Interactive Japan) (2017.10.17) - 2.689
40 - Champion Jockey Special (Koei Tecmo) (2017.09.14) - 2.626
41 - Nobunaga's Ambition: Sphere of Influence with Power-Up Kit (Koei Tecmo) {2017.03.03} - 1.400

Highlights:
- 1-2-Switch over 400k
- M+R in top 10, over 150k, win 1 place
- Bayonetta 2 win 1 place

Famitsu: 50 games

01 - Splatoon 2 (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} – 2.053.828 + 168.412 digital = 2.222.240
02 - Super Mario Odyssey (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} – 1.567.958 + 111.394 digital = 1.679.352
03 - Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} – 1.341.608 + 89.042 digital = 1.430.650
04 - The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} – 825.289 + 64.738 digital = 890.027
05 - ARMS (Nintendo) {2017.06.16} – 340.063 + 27.284 digital = 367.347
06 - 1-2-Switch (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} – 350.887 + 14.381 digital = 365.268
07 - Monster Hunter Double Cross: Nintendo Switch Ver. (Capcom) {2017.08.25} – 225.204 + 21.549 digital = 246.753
08 - Pokken Tournament DX (Pokemon Co.) {2017.09.22} – 219.055 + 20.703 digital = 239.758
09 - Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (Nintendo) (2017.12.01) - 170.319 + 23.275 digital = 193.594
10 - Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle (Nintendo) {2018.01.18} - 168.247 + 6.759 digital = 175.006
11 - Super Bomberman R (Konami) {2017.03.03} – 129.036 + 5.387 digital = 134.423
12 - Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 for Nintendo Switch (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.09.07} – 120.075 + 4.174 digital = 124.249
13 - Snipperclips: Cut it Out, Together! (Download) (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} – 113.287
14 - FIFA 18 (Electronic Arts) {2017.09.29} – 79.937 + 4.931 digital = 84.868
15 - Minecraft: Nintendo Switch Edition (Download) (Microsoft Game Studios) {2017.05.12} – 73.741
16 - Fire Emblem Warriors (Koei Tecmo) {2017.09.28} – 64.747 + 7.669 digital = 72.416
17 - Dragon Quest X: All in One Package (Square Enix) {2017.09.21} – 30.851 + 36.544 digital = 67.395
18 - Dragon Quest X: 5000-nen no Harukanaru Kokyou e Online (Square Enix) {2017.11.16} - 27.975 + 37.856 digital = 65.831
19 - Dragon Quest Heroes I & II for Nintendo Switch (Square Enix) {2017.03.03} – 64.404 + 1.305 digital = 65.709
20 - Puyo Puyo Tetris S (Sega) {2017.03.03} – 56.646 + 1.482 digital = 58.128
21 - Snipperclips Plus (Nintendo) {2017.11.10} - 55.130 + 1.262 digital = 56.392
22 - Sumikko Gurashi: Sumikko Park e Youkoso (Nippon Columbia) (2017.12.07) - 47.399 + 1.399 digital = 48.798
23 - Seiken Densetsu Collection (Square Enix) {2017.06.01} – 41.128 + 4.721 digital = 45.849
24 - Shinobi Refle: Senran Kagura (Download) (Marvelous Games) {2017.11.24} - 32 167
25 - One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3 - Deluxe Edition (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.12.21} - 28.003
26 - Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (Capcom) {2017.05.26} – 23.018 + 4.040 digital = 27.058
27 - Bayonetta 2 (Nintendo) {2018.02.17} - 26.663 (12.155 Climax Edition) (+1)
28 - The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (Bethesda Softworks) {2018.02.01} - 23.104
29 - Bayonetta (Nintendo) {2018.02.17} - 12.155
30 - Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star (Marvelous) {2017.07.20} – 10.167 + 1.852 digital = 12.019
31 - LEGO City Undercover (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2017.06.29} – 8.312
32 - Minna de Wai Wai! Spelunker (Square Enix) {2017.04.20} – 8.028
33 - Lost Sphear (Square Enix) {2017.10.12} – 6.562
34 - One Piece: Unlimited World Red – Deluxe Edition (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.08.24} – 5.916
35 - Resident Evil: Revelations Collection (Capcom) (2017.11.30) - 5.892
36 - Nobunaga's Ambition: Taishi (Koei Tecmo) (2017.11.30) - 5.786
37 - Disgaea 5 Complete (Nippon Ichi Software) {2017.03.03} – 5.065
38 - Sonic Forces (Sega) {2017.11.09} - 4.899
39 - I am Setsuna (Square Enix) {2017.03.03} – 4.625
40 - Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon (Koei Tecmo) {2017.08.31} – 4.413
41 - Azure Striker Gunvolt: Striker Pack (Inti Creates) {2017.08.31} – 3.196
42 - Cars 3: Driven to Win (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2017.07.20} – 3.007
43 - Resident Evil: Revelations (Capcom) (2017.11.30) - 2.747
44 - Champion Jockey Special (Koei Tecmo) {2017.09.14} – 2.512
45 - NBA 2K18 (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2017.10.17} – 2.397
46 - Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate (Koei Tecmo) {2017.11.09} - 2.307
47 - LEGO Worlds (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2017.11.22} - 2.274
48 - Monopoly for Nintendo Switch (Ubisoft) {2017.11.09} - 2.005
49 - LEGO Marvel Super Heroes 2 (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2018.02.01} - 1.991
50 - Winning Post 8 2017 (Koei Tecmo) {2017.09.14} – 1.774

Highlights:
- Bayonetta 2 win 1 place
- Impressive fight ARMS (367.347) vs 1-2-Switch (365.268) and MHXX (246.753) vs Pokken (239.758)

Dengeki: 57 games (+1)

01 - Splatoon 2 (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} – 2,120,275
02 - Super Mario Odyssey (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} – 1,564,933
03 - Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} – 1,405,582
04 - The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} – 802,482 (111,135 explorer edition)
05 - 1-2-Switch (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} – 429,820
06 - ARMS (Nintendo) {2017.06.16} – 397,361
07 - Pokken Tournament DX (Pokemon Co.) {2017.09.22} – 233,169
08 - Monster Hunter Double Cross: Nintendo Switch Ver. (Capcom) {2017.08.25} – 212,198
09 - Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle (Nintendo) {2018.01.18} - 179,494 (+1)
10 - Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (Nintendo) (2017.12.01) - 177,989
11 - Super Bomberman R (Konami) {2017.03.03} – 156,035
12 - Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 for Nintendo Switch (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.09.07} – 146,478
13 - FIFA 18 (Electronic Arts) {2017.09.29} – 108,974
14 - Puyo Puyo Tetris S (Sega) {2017.03.03} – 67,576
15 - Sumikko Gurashi: Sumikko Park e Youkoso (Nippon Columbia) (2017.12.07) - 61,261
16 - Snipperclips plus (Nintendo) {2017.11.10} - 58,974
17 - Fire Emblem Warriors (Koei Tecmo) {2017.09.28} – 53,791
18 - Dragon Quest Heroes I & II for Nintendo Switch (Square Enix) {2017.03.03} – 53,066
19 - One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3 - Deluxe Edition (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.12.21} - 32,236
20 - Seiken Densetsu Collection (Square Enix) {2017.06.01} – 31,643
21 - Bayonetta 2 (Nintendo) {2018.02.17} - 26,349 (9,207 Climax Edition) (+3)
22 - Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (Capcom) {2017.05.26} – 25,018
23 - The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (Bethesda Softworks) {2018.02.01} - 23,845
24 - Dragon Quest X: All in One Package (Square Enix) {2017.09.21} – 21,160
25 - Dragon Quest X: 5000-nen no Harukanaru Kokyou e Online (Square Enix) (2017.11.16) - 18,114
26 - Minna de Wai Wai! Spelunker (Square Enix) {2017.04.20} – 12,631
27 - Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star (Marvelous) {2017.07.20} – 11,560
28 - Gear·Club Unlimited (3 goo) {2017.12.14} - 11,411
29 - Bayonetta (Nintendo) {2018.02.17} - 9,207
30 - Resident Evil: Revelations Collection (Capcom) (2017.11.30) - 8,898
31 - LEGO City Undercover (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2017.06.29} – 8,884
32 - Sonic Forces (Sega) {2017.11.9} - 7,529
33 - One Piece: Unlimited World Red – Deluxe Edition (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.08.24} – 7,374
34 - Atelier Lydie & Suelle: The Alchemists and the Mysterious Paintings (Koei Tecmo) {2017.12.21} - 6,684
35 - Lost Sphear (Square Enix) {2017.10.12} – 6,274
36 - Cars 3: Driven to Win (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2017.07.20} – 6,163
37 - Disgaea 5 Complete (Nippon Ichi Software) {2017.03.03} – 5,968
38 - Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon (Koei Tecmo) {2017.08.31} – 5,470
39 - Nobunaga's Ambition: Taishi (Koei Tecmo) (2017.11.30) - 5.400
40 - I am Setsuna (Square Enix) {2017.03.03} – 4,525
41 - Resident Evil: Revelations (Capcom) (2017.11.30) - 3,095
42 - LEGO Marvel Super Heroes 2 (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2018.02.01} - 2,962
43 - Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate (KOEI TECMO) {2017.11.9} - 2, 940
44 - Azure Striker Gunvolt: Striker Pack (Inti Creates) {2017.08.31} – 2,913
45 - Champion Jockey Special (Koei Tecmo) {2017.09.14} – 2,744
46 - NBA 2K18 (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2017.10.17} – 2.669
47 - Gotouchi Tetsudou for Nintendo Switch!! (Bandai Namco Entertainment) {2018.02.22} - 2,277 (NEW)
48 - LEGO Worlds (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2017.11.22} - 2,261
49 - Nobunaga's Ambition: Sphere of Influence with Power-Up Kit (Koei Tecmo) {2017.03.03} - 2,050
50 - Dynasty Warriors 8: Empires (Koei Tecmo) {2017.11.9} - 2,007
51 - Monopoly for Nintendo Switch (Ubi Soft) {2017.11.09} - 1,938
52 - Samurai Warriors: Sanada Maru (Koei Tecmo) {2017.11.9} - 1,808
53 - Winning Post 8 2017 (Koei Tecmo) {2017.09.14} – 1,517
54 - Gal Metal! (DMM Games) {2018.02.08} - 1,373
55 - The LEGO Ninjago Movie Game (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2017.06.29} – 1,217
56 - Cave Story + (Pikii) {2018.02.08} - 1,167
57 - VOEZ (FlyHigh Works) {2018.01.25} - 1,122

Highlights:
- MK8D over 1,4m
- Zelda BOTW over 800k
- M+R win 1 place (X2 :'( )
- Bayonetta 2 win 3 places
- 1 new game, Gotouchi Tetsudou for Nintendo Switch!! (47th)

SWITCH GAMES, Ranking Sales, Japan, 2018 (Feb 12 - Feb 18)
https://www.resetera.com/posts/4932086/

Ramiss · Mar 1, 2018

Notaskwid said:
How did you activate the animated gif avatar hack?

No idea, just put my fav in there. I didnt know it was not allowed so it was removed.

Sub Boss · Mar 1, 2018

Ryng Manuel Tolu said:
We can not have a precise idea of how Wii U shipments will looks like by the end of March 2018, all we can do is do an estimate with the 1.5 million sold Nintendo annunced.

With Switch, we can look at the trend.

Code:

+--------+-----+-------+ | Q1 2017| 2,76 | 2,76 | | Q2 2017| 1,16 | 3,92 | | Q3 2017| 0,78 | 4,70 | | Q4 2017| 2,00 | 6,70 | +--------+-----+-------+

Now, we know that Zelda BotW sold a bit over 6 million, which mean there are a bit less than 700,000 units in stock. In this quarter, i think is likely to expect Zelda Switch easy over 150K in Japan, i'd say 170K seem likely, (as it sold 110K so far, and is selling above 10K per week). Big sales comes from west tho, America alone is likely gonna be double compared to Japan, and then there is Europe and rest of world. I think that Zelda Breath of the Wild sales should be around 800,000 for this quarter, which mean it is gonna surpass the shipments by end of 2017. It depend on how many units Nintendo want in stock, but i believe 500K or so for a leggy game like Zelda (i know it seem weird to say) seem legit, so my guess is that they'll ship 600K for Breath of the Wild on Switch.

This put Zelda Breath of the wild Switch at 7.3 million lifetime. If Wii U version ship 1.7 million by the end of March 2018, then 9 million will happen. Gonna be super close tho, worst scenario i see is 8.7-8.8 million.

Close to Horizon, impressive.

silpheed-mcd · Mar 1, 2018

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Fisico · Mar 1, 2018

casiopao said:
I can't remember well Ducky but, don't VC1 selling really well on PC is due to lower price?

One might argue otherwise and it's certainly not the only reason, but it was released at 20$ and moved a huge amount during steam sales where it's price was in the 5-15$ range

CeroMiedo · Mar 1, 2018

Fisico said:
One might argue otherwise and it's certainly not the only reason, but it was released at 20$ and moved a huge amount during steam sales where it's price was in the 5-15$ range

it was extremely easy(and I still think it is) to have a discount coupon of VC1 on Steam,got my copy of VC1 for only a few bucks a few years ago

casiopao · Mar 1, 2018

Fisico said:
One might argue otherwise and it's certainly not the only reason, but it was released at 20$ and moved a huge amount during steam sales where it's price was in the 5-15$ range

I am not saying that VC4 will bomb here lol. I am just saying that for those who had the expectation for the game to do as well as VC1 PC performance must consider lots of things first.

This is the fourth series of VC which mean it will had barrier for new comers to come and try the game.

The price will be full price too this time.

And of course on PC, there is no more new franchise pull anymore. It will be all depend on VC4 quality itself.

Deleted member 8593 · Mar 1, 2018

For the record, Valkyria Chronicles 4 has no PC version announced.

Aters · Mar 1, 2018

Do people actually care about if it's the forth or tenth installment? Sounds like a last century thing. I mean sure you probably need to play Mass Effect 3 before Mass Effect 2, but VC4 has nothing to do with VC2 and 3, and very little to do with VC1. It's as good an entry point as any other entry.

SinCityAssassin · Mar 1, 2018

Aters said:
Do people actually care about if it's the forth or tenth installment? Sounds like a last century thing. I mean sure you probably need to play Mass Effect 3 before Mass Effect 2, but VC4 has nothing to do with VC2 and 3, and very little to do with VC1. It's as good an entry point as any other entry.

The average consumer wouldn't know at a glance, so from a marketing perspective using a 4 is more of a hard sell. Especially for this genre.

Aters · Mar 1, 2018

SinCItyAssassin said:
The average consumer wouldn't know at a glance, so from a marketing perspective using a 4 is more of a hard sell. Especially for this genre.

I don't think the average consumers would stop buying Far Cry 5 or Battlefield 5 because they didn't play FC4 or BF4. "I need to play the previous entry before getting the latest one" is the most hardcore gamer thing.

Vinnk · Mar 1, 2018

Aters said:
I don't think the average consumers would stop buying Far Cry 5 or Battlefield 5 because they didn't play FC4 or BF4. "I need to play the previous entry before getting the latest one" is the most hardcore gamer thing.

I don't know about that. I had trouble convincing some friends of mine to give Xenoblade 2 a try because they "didn't play the first one". With popular series like FF and DQ it is well known that they stand alone but many smaller series actually do require knowledge of the previous games. Kingdom Hearts for example.

Aters · Mar 1, 2018

Vinnk said:
I don't know about that. I had trouble convincing some friends of mine to give Xenoblade 2 a try because they "didn't play the first one". With popular series like FF and DQ it is well known that they stand alone but many smaller series actually do require knowledge of the previous games. Kingdom Hearts for example.

Which is funny because I played BbS, 358/2 and DDD, and neither of the mainline entries.

There are all sorts of people of course, but I believe most people don't care. Otherwise how can Persona 5 sell much better than previous games? How can Nier Automata sell well? There are a lot of franchises that didn't get big until the second, third, forth or even fifth entry.

"I didn't play the first one" is a good excuse though. I use it as a polite way of saying "I'm not interested in what you are recommending."

Notaskwid · Mar 1, 2018

Wonder what's up with PS4's stock.

Deleted member 8593 · Mar 1, 2018

There's a reason why Monster Hunter moved away from numbered entries and why other series in the west are doing it as well (Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed etc.) It's just an unnecessary barrier of entry unless it's a huge franchise like GTA or Star Wars.

Notaskwid said:
Wonder what's up with PS4's stock.

Sony realized that this is as good as it's gonna get so they're packing up.

silpheed-mcd · Mar 1, 2018

Notaskwid said:
Wonder what's up with PS4's stock.

Famitsu about that:

" The PlayStation 4 has been affected by shortage"
https://www.famitsu.com/biz/ranking/

Mory Dunz · Mar 1, 2018

did the shortage affect this past week?

silpheed-mcd · Mar 1, 2018

Mory Dunz said:
did the shortage affect this past week?

Yes and now.

Jawbreaker · Mar 1, 2018

PS4 shortages in Japan. Never thought I'd see the day. I guess we can't really say it's naturally declining post-MH:W just yet.

TLZ · Mar 1, 2018

Switch still same sales. Been on that consistent hovering around 40k weekly now. That's there then. No stock shortage. Just consistent. Possibly rise when something more interesting comes out.

Aters · Mar 1, 2018

Dardan Sandiego said:
There's a reason why Monster Hunter moved away from numbered entries and why other series in the west are doing it as well (Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed etc.) It's just an unnecessary barrier of entry unless it's a huge franchise like GTA or Star Wars.

In Mass Effect's case, Andromada is more of a spin-off (I think at least that's what EA want people to believe). It certainly doesn't reach mainline ME standard. Dragon Age Inquisition was a reboot after the terrible DA2. Monster Hunter World is also more or less a reboot so it makes sense for Capcom to cut its tie with previous games. AssCreed is kinda weird. Even before they completely ditched the number, they had released a lot of none-numbered entries that should be qualified as mainline. Honestly I don't know how they came up with those names, maybe they themselves don't know either.

We also get Uncharted 4, The Last of Us part 2, Battlefield 1 (this one's special), Star Wars Battlefront 2, Far Cry 5, Froza 7, Gears of Wars 4, Beyond Good & Evil 2, Watch Dog 2, Destiny 2, God of War 4, Titanfall 2, Dishornered 2, Wolfenstein 2. I don't think western publishers are moving away from numbers just yet.

VC4 is not a reboot, from what I played the change is rather small so I see no reason to name it differently.

Deleted member 8593 · Mar 1, 2018

Aters said:
In Mass Effect's case, Andromada is more of a spin-off (I think at least that's what EA want people to believe).
We also get Uncharted 4, The Last of Us part 2, Battlefield 1 (this one's special), Star Wars Battlefront 2, Far Cry 5, Froza 7, Gears of Wars 4, Beyond Good & Evil 2, Watch Dog 2, Destiny 2, God of War 4, Titanfall 2, Dishornered 2, Wolfenstein 2. I don't think western publishers are moving away from numbers just yet.

Andromeda was marketed as a new start, separate from the original trilogy. What they do now with it post-release is up in the stars.

God of War 4 is actually just God of War

Numbered sequels aren't gonna go away from one day to the other but I think it's no coincidence that many of these games saw a decline in sales with their second entry. It doesn't matter anyway because with GaaS you'll only get "first entries" that get multiple season passes :p

casiopao · Mar 1, 2018

Aters said:
Which is funny because I played BbS, 358/2 and DDD, and neither of the mainline entries.

There are all sorts of people of course, but I believe most people don't care. Otherwise how can Persona 5 sell much better than previous games? How can Nier Automata sell well? There are a lot of franchises that didn't get big until the second, third, forth or even fifth entry.

"I didn't play the first one" is a good excuse though. I use it as a polite way of saying "I'm not interested in what you are recommending."

Because VC is not the same level as Persona.

Persona is on its peak of popularity when 5 is released.

Nier had the backing of great WoM. And the cult status of the game is helping a lot too.(not to mention the title dont have that giant 2 lol.)

Dardan Sandiego said:
For the record, Valkyria Chronicles 4 has no PC version announced.

Well.....congratz Sega. U F up.

Deleted member 1413 · Mar 1, 2018

They likely could've called it VC Retailiation or something but the spin off being so bad likely required a numbered entry to tell people "this is a mainline game, please buy it"

Aters · Mar 1, 2018

casiopao said:
Because VC is not the same level as Persona.

Persona is on its peak of popularity when 5 is released.

Nier had the backing of great WoM. And the cult status of the game is helping a lot too.(not to mention the title dont have that giant 2 lol.)

Sure it's not, that's why VC4 in needs that number in its title to show fans that this is not the same shit as Azure Revolution. This is the real mainline deal. And speaking of WoM. Now this is the deciding factor. If VC4 is as good as VC1 or even better, people will take notice. If it's a bad game, title change won't save it. I always believe the quality of the game and the platforms are the two most important factors. The game is already announced for all platforms except PC (but the SEGA PR guy on this forum heavily hinted it), so everything comes down to quality.

Also, VC4 is EXTREMELY similar to VC1 both visually and system-wise. There is no "we start anew" element in the game, which is usually required when changing the naming convention. Even if Sega want to call it something else, they'd find it hard to come up with an excuse.

Dardan Sandiego said:
Andromeda was marketed as a new start, separate from the original trilogy. What they do now with it post-release is up in the stars.

God of War 4 is actually just God of War

Numbered sequels aren't gonna go away from one day to the other but I think it's no coincidence that many of these games saw a decline in sales with their second entry. It doesn't matter anyway because with GaaS you'll only get "first entries" that get multiple season passes :p

Didn't know GoW4 doesn't actually have the number. Makes sense though considering all the changes from gameplay to setting. Andramada, as you said, is "a new start".

VC4 is not a new start of any sort. In fact people are calling it VC1.5.

silpheed-mcd · Mar 2, 2018

Fisico · Mar 2, 2018

casiopao said:
I am not saying that VC4 will bomb here lol. I am just saying that for those who had the expectation for the game to do as well as VC1 PC performance must consider lots of things first.

This is the fourth series of VC which mean it will had barrier for new comers to come and try the game.

The price will be full price too this time.

And of course on PC, there is no more new franchise pull anymore. It will be all depend on VC4 quality itself.

We... do not disagree there, I said as much a few times in past threads and just in the previous page.

casiopao said:
Well.....congratz Sega. U F up.

I'm not sure about that, PC version will come and they're most likely delaying it on purpose.
The problem is had it been a simultaneous release price parity would have hurt it and it would've got less coverage.
I think they're going with a delayed release (somewhere between a few months to 1 year) to be able to have a more attractive price point (20-40$) some sort of DLC included and lots of fancy graphics setting options
This way they should attract double dippers and PC only enthusiasts and start the PC sales with a strong momentum without hurting their console SKU too much as well

Deleted member 1413 · Mar 2, 2018

silpheed-mcd said:

Would've been pretty pumped for this like 6 years ago.
I imagine the ports likely aren't of great quality since they had to port 3 games, but I'm kind of glad anime games are coming to the platform.
Feels like Nintendo platforms have been missing out since like GameCube

Mory Dunz · Mar 2, 2018

For Nintendo Switch is so ugly

Chris1964 · Mar 2, 2018

02./00. [PS4] Girls und Panzer: Dream Tank Match # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.02.22} (¥7.600) - 46.411 / NEW <93,66%>
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21./19. [NSW] Arms <FTG> (Nintendo) {2017.06.16} (¥5.980)
22./07. [PSV] Seiken Densetsu 2: Secret of Mana # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2018.02.15} (¥4.800)
23./21. [NSW] Pokken Tournament DX <FTG> (Pokemon Co.) {2017.09.22} (¥5.980)
24./22. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch Busters 2: Hihou Legend Banbarayaa - Sword / Magnum <ACT> (Level 5) {2017.12.16} (¥4.800)
25./23. [NSW] Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 for Nintendo Switch <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.09.07} (¥6.800)
26./08. [PS4] Cyber Troopers Virtual-On x Toaru Majutsu no Index: Toaru Majutsu no Virtual-On # <ACT> (Sega) {2018.02.15} (¥7.990)
27./04. [PSV] IDOLiSH7 Twelve Fantasia! # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.02.15} (¥6.800)
28./00. [NSW] Gotouchi Tetsudou for Nintendo Switch!! <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.02.22} (¥4.800)
29./36. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition # <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2015.03.19} (¥2.400)
30./29. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo <ETC> (Nintendo) {2016.11.23} (¥2.700)
31./26. [3DS] Kirby Battle Royale <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.11.30} (¥4.980)
32./27. [PS4] Dragon's Crown Pro # <ACT> (Atlus) {2018.02.08} (¥7.980)
33./25. [NSW] The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim <The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim \ The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Dawnguard \ The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Hearthfire \ The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Dragonborn> <RPG> (Bethesda Softworks) {2018.02.01} (¥6.980)
34./00. [PSV] Vitamin X: Destination <ADV> (D3Publisher) {2018.02.22} (¥6.300)
35./32. [NSW] Snipperclips Plus: Cut it Out, Together! <PZL> (Nintendo) {2017.11.10} (¥3.280)
36./31. [PS4] Call of Duty: WWII # <ACT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2017.11.03} (¥7.900)
37./00. [3DS] Attack on Titan 2: Future Coordinates <ACT> (Spike Chunsoft) {2017.11.30} (¥5.980)
38./24. [PS4] Shadow of the Colossus <ADV> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2018.02.08} (¥4.900)
39./33. [NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles 2 # <RPG> (Nintendo) {2017.12.01} (¥7.980)
40./35. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto V [New Price Edition] <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2015.10.08} (¥4.990)
41./30. [NSW] Monster Hunter Double Cross: Nintendo Switch Ver. # <ACT> (Capcom) {2017.08.25} (¥5.800)
42./37. [3DS] Monster Hunter Double Cross [Best Price!] <ACT> (Capcom) {2017.11.30} (¥3.990)
43./16. [PSV] Cyber Troopers Virtual-On x Toaru Majutsu no Index: Toaru Majutsu no Virtual-On # <ACT> (Sega) {2018.02.15} (¥6.990)
44./34. [NSW] FIFA 18 <SPT> (Electronic Arts) {2017.09.29} (¥5.800)
45./00. [PSV] Kimi no Hitomi ni Hit Me # <ADV> (Entergram) {2018.02.22} (¥6.980)
46./00. [PS4] Nobunaga's Ambition: Taishi # <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2017.11.30} (¥8.800)
47./38. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.571)
48./40. [NSW] Sumikko Gurashi: Sumikko Park e Youkoso <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2017.12.07} (¥5.800)
49./48. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Koko, Dokonan Desu? <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2017.07.20} (¥4.800)
50./45. [PS4] Earth Defense Force 5 <ACT> (D3Publisher) {2017.12.07} (¥7.800)

Top 50

NSW - 17
PS4 - 16
3DS - 9
PSV - 8

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|System |  This Week |  Last Week |  Last Year |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
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Deleted member 8593 · Mar 2, 2018

Mory Dunz said:
For Nintendo Switch is so ugly

it looks like it was inserted by fansubbers.

skullwaker · Mar 2, 2018

Mory Dunz said:
For Nintendo Switch is so ugly

At least they're consistently ugly.

Although for some reason they made it look good for the NA release.

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Mory Dunz · Mar 2, 2018

what a horrible boxart^^

Dardan Sandiego said:
it looks like it was inserted by fansubbers.

fansubbers note: this for the switch

foxuzamaki · Mar 2, 2018

Sadist said:
Still hope we are getting news soon on Fire Emblem. Really curious about it.

More than anything, ive been really antsy about fire emblem, I jus really nees to see what it looks like. I'm not worrying about it or anything in terms of quality, but rather it feels so close and we dont even have anything as much as a screenshot of it. And worse yet, I fear Nintendo is saving it for E3 which is forever away

Wander_ · Mar 2, 2018

Sub Boss said:
Close to Horizon, impressive.

Those don't count the Wii U version. Also HZD was 20$ (or more) less for basically the entire year

Vena · Mar 2, 2018

silpheed-mcd said:
Famitsu about that:

" The PlayStation 4 has been affected by shortage"
https://www.famitsu.com/biz/ranking/

We'd have gotten info on such from MC had it actually been impacting beyond a mention in Famitsu, which isn't even quantified in their report. We've had anecdotes of both short and ample stock, so its obviously not anything consistently spread regardless.

More likely, Sony's just slow to restock and we're seeing shelf stock getting eaten up due to the surge from World. Hence why Notaskwid has said the same thing for about three weeks now while regions that others have reported on haven't had issues at all, just more backroom stock.

hiska-kun · Mar 2, 2018

First Day Sell-through {2018.03.01}

[NSW] Dragon Quest Builders <ADV> (Square Enix) (¥4.800) - 20%

[NSW] Doom <ACT> (Bethesda Softworks) (¥6.980) - 20%

Doraemon Land

[3DS] Doraemon: Nobita no Takarajima <ACT> (FuRyu) (¥5.480) - 0-9%

casiopao · Mar 2, 2018

hiska-kun said:
First Day Sell-through {2018.03.01}

[NSW] Dragon Quest Builders <ADV> (Square Enix) (¥4.800) - 20%

[NSW] Doom <ACT> (Bethesda Softworks) (¥6.980) - 20%

Doraemon Land

[3DS] Doraemon: Nobita no Takarajima <ACT> (FuRyu) (¥5.480) - 0-9%

That furyu land category lol.

SinCityAssassin · Mar 2, 2018

rip doraemon.

DarkDetective · Mar 2, 2018

hiska-kun said:
First Day Sell-through {2018.03.01}

[NSW] Dragon Quest Builders <ADV> (Square Enix) (¥4.800) - 20%

[NSW] Doom <ACT> (Bethesda Softworks) (¥6.980) - 20%

Doraemon Land

[3DS] Doraemon: Nobita no Takarajima <ACT> (FuRyu) (¥5.480) - 0-9%

Triple ouch

Nocturnal · Mar 2, 2018

I think DQH I&II had an initial shipment of around 50K.

Famitsu:
[NSW] Dragon Quest Heroes I & II for Nintendo Switch <Dragon Quest Heroes: The World Tree's Woe and the Blight Below \ Dragon Quest Heroes II> <RPG> (Square Enix) {2017.03.03} (¥8.800) - 25.929 / NEW <40-60%>

Personally I expect they shipped around 100K for DQB, since it's a far less expensive game and SE already know the type of legs they can expect if it's well received.

In terms of Doom I think the initial shipment for the game is less than 25K

RocknRola · Mar 2, 2018

A slow-ish return to the usual PS4 baseline, as expected. Still, overall on the software front MHW more than payed off (they should go beyong 2M just on physical copies alone, which is well beyond what I expected for it) and I guess on the hardware front it also gave it a decent boost pre-during-post launch (though nothing super massive). All in all, Sony and Capcom are likely very happy with the current results in Japan.

Switch feels a horse, ready to take off for the sprint of it's life, being held back by some sort of gate (aka shortages). Considering how "flat" it's sales have been, despite shortages, it really feels like the moment Nintendo can provide more units consistently it'll do insane numbers. Not sure if Wii, DS or 3DS level/type of numbers, but insane ones for sure.

As for the software side of things, some decent variety in there, though the new games (the PS4 ones in the top 10) also seemed to have relatively low debuts. Unlike the Switch, the software sales for PS4 games in general seem to be it's biggest issue in Japan (outside of a few exceptions).

Shame that Bayonetta can't seem to get more love (in Japan or anywhere else really). Such a great series. Here is hoping the 3rd game does better (unlikely, but not impossible I guess)!

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