Man, that shit caught everyone off-guard. Probably the best cliffhanger the series has ever done and that's saying something. So glad you got to get it unspoiled.After putting off most of this season I finally set aside some time yesterday to catch up. Glad I went in unspoiled because the end of the most recent episode really caught me off-guard. I can't wait to see where they go with it next. As long as they keep the pace up I think they'll come out better than most of season 12.
I'm still a little stunned. It really seems like the writers are now listening to the sane fans instead of the insane ones. I'm sure Anael will be killed off but not for the typical reasons. Lucy I'd always entertaining, and I would love to see how he actually deal with being human.
I want the backstory of how Gabe was captured ASAP. It has to be a great story, because the dude is as close to being a reoccurring God as we can get without Chuck and Amara.
I cannot wait until he breaks lose and... All hell breaks lose. I want to know if he still sides with humanity or if his time had jaded him.
Excellent episode. Will be a great birthday present when it returns.
Man, that shit caught everyone off-guard. Probably the best cliffhanger the series has ever done and that's saying something. So glad you got to get it unspoiled.
See, I had figured they busted Michael out and were going to have him do the job.Yeah I did not see that coming at all, it was only when he brought out the Archangel killing blade and Ketch was like lore says an Archangel much wield did I go omgggggg Michael is in the cage, raphael is splattered in a multitude of areas, the only one left is Gabriel :D!!!!
See, I had figured they busted Michael out and were going to have him do the job.
See, I had figured they busted Michael out and were going to have him do the job.
Same here I was like "Omg it'd Michal, its going to be the vessal of their brother omg. "
And then it was an ever bigger surprise lol
Michael would have made sense too considering Azmodeus could simply let him out of the cage whenever he wanted to.
It makes sense when you consider where Sam was after just a short amount of time in the cage. Adam's been in there for years, there likely hasn't been anything of him left for a while now. So why risk the end of days starting up again to go after someone who is likely dead, and if he's not they'd still need to exorcise an arch angel and throw it back in the cage. That's like three impossible tasks with no margin for error. I could see them trying it for Bobby, but they barely know Adam.I've given up on any return of Michael/Adam. Sam & Dean get told straight up that Adam is still in the Cage, and they still give zero fucks and do nothing whatsoever to try and free him. It actually pisses me off because before Adam says yes to Michael Sam & dean are all like you're other brother! And talk about family and it's been 8 years and still not a single fuck given :/.
What? How? Did I miss something, because Azmodeus was said to be the weakest, so if he could do it why didn't any of the others try to free Lucifer? Azazel went through all the trouble of setting Lucifer free by using Sam
This is true. For some reason I was thinking he could easily let him out of the cage but that obviously isn't the case.
It makes sense when you consider where Sam was after just a short amount of time in the cage. Adam's been in there for years, there likely hasn't been anything of him left for a while now. So why risk the end of days starting up again to go after someone who is likely dead, and if he's not they'd still need to exorcise an arch angel and throw it back in the cage. That's like three impossible tasks with no margin for error. I could see them trying it for Bobby, but they barely know Adam.
Minor nitpick: the Archangel Blade looks different than it did in the season 5 episode when Lucifer stabbed Gabriel with one. I think it looked like a normal angel blade back then.
I actually think that they are going to say that's why Gabe didn't truly die; he wasn't stabbed with the archangel blade. After he's the only archangel who's 'died'
The thing is, Lucifer would have known, but perhaps he didn't really want to kill Gabe.I actually think that they are going to say that's why Gabe didn't truly die; he wasn't stabbed with the archangel blade. After he's the only archangel who's 'died'
Holy hell you might be onto something...I swear if that's the reason I'll bow to your infinite wisdom .The thing is, Lucifer would have known, but perhaps he didn't really want to kill Gabe.
That aside, though, here's what I'm thinking: "Asmodeus" is really Gabriel, and the fucked up dude in the cage is Asmodeus. His mouth is sewn shut so he can't tell anyone who he is. That's how Asmodeus can shapeshift like that, despite Lucifer never giving him that ability, and Lucifer is/was too weak to see through the ruse. That's also why he isn't afraid of Lucifer, who should be leagues and leagues beyond him.
This raises the question: why has he done the things he's done then? It doesn't gel with the Gabe we've come to know at all.The thing is, Lucifer would have known, but perhaps he didn't really want to kill Gabe.
That aside, though, here's what I'm thinking: "Asmodeus" is really Gabriel, and the fucked up dude in the cage is Asmodeus. His mouth is sewn shut so he can't tell anyone who he is. That's how Asmodeus can shapeshift like that, despite Lucifer never giving him that ability, and Lucifer is/was too weak to see through the ruse. That's also why he isn't afraid of Lucifer, who should be leagues and leagues beyond him.
He's gotta keep up the ruse, he's fucked with the boys before to make them realize their role.This raises the question: why has he done the things he's done then? It doesn't gel with the Gabe we've come to know at all.
:/. Maybe he stole his grace? Can Demons steal Angels grace? It'd explain how he can shapeshift and how Gabriel is locked upHe hasn't really done anything so far.
EDIT: Of course, another--shittier--possibility is that Asmodeus somehow learned how to steal Gabriel's shapeshifting ability.
Did he actually harm any angels or humans? IDR. I think he killed some demons.
Sure, but everyone he killed had it coming. They were all dicks. He didn't just kill randos.
Oh yeah, so also, it looks like we might have some more clarification about the limitations of the Colt. Demons obviously know about it, and they also say that only an archangel's sword can kill an archangel (which isn't actually true, but I guess as weapons go, sure). So we now have two possibilities for the list of five things in Creation it cannot kill:
Possibility 1
1. Archangel
2. ?
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?
Possibility 2
1. Lucifer
2. Michael
3. Gabriel
4. Raphael
5. ?
God and The Darkness obviously aren't part of Creation, so they wouldn't be on the list. Other possibilities include Death, Leviathan, and maybe whatever Asmodeus is trying to dredge up.
I guess . But given what we've seen whenever a weapon can/cantc kill one creature it usually applies to ever creature in that class . Like every angel is affected by wards and ring of holy fire(except the scribe of God :/) .Well, going by season 5, we only knew that it can't kill Lucifer, and we had to guess that applied to the whole class of archangels, but now it seems to be confirmed, work Asmodeus and Ketch saying that only an archangel's sword can kill an archangel.
And yeah. I'm not so sure it can't kill Death anymore.
Regarding Leviathan, though, I think it's a strong contender for being one of the things because God had Metatron inscribe a whole tablet just to lay out how to kill them. I doubt He'd go through all the trouble if other things could do it.
I do wonder if the Hand of God artifacts could be more powerful, though. Lucifer sure thought they could kill Amara, at least.
I think of the weapons we've seen, their power ranking should shake out something like this:
1. Hand of God
2. Archangel sword
3. Death's scythe
4. The Colt
5. Angelic arsenal, including the Spear of Destiny
6. Angel blade
7. Ruby's knife
The staff of moses was a hand of god thoI guess . But given what we've seen whenever a weapon can/cantc kill one creature it usually applies to ever creature in that class . Like every angel is affected by wards and ring of holy fire(except the scribe of God :/) .
Anyways I'd say angelic weapons over the colt. The staff of Moses turned a guy into a puddle of blood and gave gave an person a shit ton of boils. Who knows what it could do to demons or angels. The salt even turned Raphael's vessel into salt and he had to find a new vessel. We've never seen it used on demons or monsters though :/ .
Well, going by season 5, we only knew that it can't kill Lucifer, and we had to guess that applied to the whole class of archangels, but now it seems to be confirmed, work Asmodeus and Ketch saying that only an archangel's sword can kill an archangel.
And yeah. I'm not so sure it can't kill Death anymore.
Regarding Leviathan, though, I think it's a strong contender for being one of the things because God had Metatron inscribe a whole tablet just to lay out how to kill them. I doubt He'd go through all the trouble if other things could do it.
I do wonder if the Hand of God artifacts could be more powerful, though. Lucifer sure thought they could kill Amara, at least.
I think of the weapons we've seen, their power ranking should shake out something like this:
1. Hand of God
2. Archangel sword
3. Death's scythe
4. The Colt
5. Angelic arsenal, including the Spear of Destiny
6. Angel blade
7. Ruby's knife
What? Didn't Balthazaar steal it, cut it up in pieces and sell it in exchange for kids souls? He said he looted the Angelic Weaponry too. I might be wrong tho
This raises the question: why has he done the things he's done then? It doesn't gel with the Gabe we've come to know at all.
So much thisWhy let us see Gabriel and then make us wait so long for another glimpse ;_; stop toying with my feelings :(
The painful part is that they're totally gonna kill him to get the spell working, I just know it.Why let us see Gabriel and then make us wait so long for another glimpse ;_; stop toying with my feelings :(