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ResetEra Mafia |OT2| It takes 2 for murder... (New Players Welcome!)

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Sawneeks

Sawneeks

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Oct 25, 2017
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Natiko said:
It's nothing huge - just doesn't seem like we should allow people to use activity from outside of the thread as a defense when you can't use it as an attack. Especially since sometimes it's used simultaneously while scolding the other player for questioning their activity level due to said rule.

"I'm only less active because I've been playing Bingo all night with grandma. But how dare you bring up my activity level! There's rules against that!" - Fictional Person

It's seems especially wrong since often times the person pointing out that a player's activity level has changed is in no way referencing anything outside of the thread. Why should the player being accused get to reference activity outside of the thread then as a defense? Would rather see them spend their time posting about other topics than posting about activity outside of the thread that no one else can even respond to in a meaningful way. If a player does feel like they're being accused in a manner that they truly feel breaks the rule then take it to the gamerunner to enforce. I think I brought this up after my first game due to a kerfuffle related to it and was told it's sort of run off the honor code. But honestly do any of us think this quasi-loophole hasn't been abused before?

At the same time I get that it can be useful to let people know you won't be around for awhile due to this or that. I don't know what, if anything, should be changed. Just figured it was worth mentioning. I might be the only one that it bothers for that matter and seeing as I typically don't play my opinion isn't too pertinent.
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Hecht said:
I mean, I kinda get your point, but the fact is that IRL stuff does happen. The basic rule is "don't lie about it." Of course it's on the honor system, and if we then look at scum chat and we see that the player is using that excuse deliberately to mislead the players, then it's an issue.

If you don't want to post, don't post. If you get called out because you suddenly changed your posting frequency, then it's up to you whether you want to claim a reason behind it. I don't think we penalize players for playing differently (apart from the post minimums), and Game Runners should be cognizant of players who are unfairly calling out other players because they are questioning IRL activity.
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Basically agree with Hecht here and what others are saying. IRL stuff happens, we really can't force people to be here when something else happens outside of the game.

I get what you're saying about using it excessively as a defense though, Nat. The issue with that would be getting a rule when it's 'too much'. We can't really stop people from not being here for IRL reasons so it seems kinda unfair to not let people give those reasons for not being here for a Day End or extended period of time. If they're lying that's different, but going off the Honor System might extend to also not using that as a defense so excessively?

Basically, it's a really thin line and is kinda up to the Player...? Saying you aren't here because you went bowling with your Grandma is fine if you actually went bowling, maybe don't bring that up every single time someone tries to pin you to a wall though.
 
archreaper93

archreaper93

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Oct 27, 2017
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I've played a few games of Mafia over on Narutoforums, but that was years ago and I was pretty terrible. I'm itching to try again, and hopefully get better.

Pronoun: He
Timezone: CST
Game: Looks like both current games are full and there aren't any others yet. Can I get in as a replacement?
 
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RetroMG

RetroMG

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Oct 25, 2017
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archreaper93 said:
I've played a few games of Mafia over on Narutoforums, but that was years ago and I was pretty terrible. I'm itching to try again, and hopefully get better.

Pronoun: He
Timezone: CST
Game: Looks like both current games are full and there aren't any others yet. Can I get in as a replacement?
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WE GOT ONE! (Hits alarm)

Seriously though, welcome! We'll put you on the replacement list for now, and keep watching here for when the new games open up!
 
Natiko

Natiko

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sawneeks said:
Basically agree with Hecht here and what others are saying. IRL stuff happens, we really can't force people to be here when something else happens outside of the game.

I get what you're saying about using it excessively as a defense though, Nat. The issue with that would be getting a rule when it's 'too much'. We can't really stop people from not being here for IRL reasons so it seems kinda unfair to not let people give those reasons for not being here for a Day End or extended period of time. If they're lying that's different, but going off the Honor System might extend to also not using that as a defense so excessively?

Basically, it's a really thin line and is kinda up to the Player...? Saying you aren't here because you went bowling with your Grandma is fine if you actually went bowling, maybe don't bring that up every single time someone tries to pin you to a wall though.
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And I totally agree - I'm not faulting players for IRL stuff occurring. Just don't think when it does it needs to be referenced a dozen times. It's disruptive, especially since it's almost never pre-empted by someone actually calling them out for being busy.
 
Sawneeks

Sawneeks

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Oct 25, 2017
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archreaper93 said:
I've played a few games of Mafia over on Narutoforums, but that was years ago and I was pretty terrible. I'm itching to try again, and hopefully get better.

Pronoun: He
Timezone: CST
Game: Looks like both current games are full and there aren't any others yet. Can I get in as a replacement?
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archreaper93 said:
Cool cool. Could I get put on the list to get a mentor as well?
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Welcome! You're on the Replacement list so if a spot opens up we will PM you. :>

Oliver James said:
I had Hawaiian pizza yesterday. I was thinking of everyone in here while I was savoring every bite.
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You're a monster.
 
Android Sophia

Android Sophia

The Absolute Sword
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
6,120
The one time I was busy IRL and was unable to play the end of a day phase, I got lynched. :(

It was my birthday. :( :(
 
archreaper93

archreaper93

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Oct 27, 2017
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Going back through a bunch of the old mafia threads. Are there any especially good ones you recommend I read to get an idea of tactics and stuff?
 
Fireblend

Fireblend

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Oct 25, 2017
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Costa Rica
Every game I've won has been perfectly balanced and delicately tuned for both their players' enjoyment and intellectual stimulation. The rest have been one-sided garbage, tbh.
 
Dr. Monkey

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Oct 25, 2017
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archreaper93 said:
Going back through a bunch of the old mafia threads. Are there any especially good ones you recommend I read to get an idea of tactics and stuff?
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Definitely the invitational on Outer Mafia, which I won singlehandedly, using only my big brain. People will tell you there were issues with the game, like activity, but they are just haters.
 
Hecht

Hecht

Blue light comes around
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Oct 24, 2017
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hm, dark theme works, light is messed up. alrighty.
 
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There is nothing wrong with having a RL. The thing is, the game is supposed to be fun. If you do not have the time commitment to participate, how can it be fun for you? And, do you think it is fair to take away from the fun of others as well in not participating?

If stuff happens, it happens. You shouldn't really be playing though if you know you do not have the time to make the effort to play. Just my two cents.
 
Sawneeks

Sawneeks

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
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Highlight Tag being orange is going to be something to get used to.

archreaper93 said:
Going back through a bunch of the old mafia threads. Are there any especially good ones you recommend I read to get an idea of tactics and stuff?
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For stuff from this site I'd recommend Berserk Mafia, Buffy Mafia, and Cluedo Mafia. All excellent reads (though i may be biased on the last one).

*Splinter said:
Isn't it orange on both?
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It's a weird light yellow on Light Theme. Heck was looking into getting it fixed.
 
weemadarthur

weemadarthur

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Well i use light theme because the browser won't change no matter what i pick and that yellow won't be readable. Also i should be playing mafia because i've been drinking and those things go togehter right?
 
Oliver James

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Alexem

Alexem

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Oct 27, 2017
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Essex, UK
I've been skimming through HvV today and... yeesh! I might not have lasted long in Sneakers, but I don't think I'd have known where to start with that one! Looks like it's been a fun game so far, though, the special guest appearance by Blarg was priceless.
 
Ynnek7

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Oct 25, 2017
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Can I have access to the HvV spec thread, too? With day end coming up, I'm going to need something to read to replace it.
 
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