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Chitown B

Member
Nov 15, 2017
9,610
Just watched the 2 new episodes so Carl just wondered off and got bit?? Trash! I still enjoy watching TWD but man some of the decisions they make for this show is unacceptable.

I'm sorry I don't see how the all women settlement just let Enid go like nothing happend and I don't get why people is upset at Rick for ignoring Carl's request for peace Negan want his head not now but right now so what you expect. Classic case of in too deep gotta continue course.

The actor wanted to go to college. Apparently he's not killed off in the comics.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,031
I still think theyre going to go the same path as the comics did with Negan, and how the whole Rick/Negan confrontation ends. They'll troll us to the ends of the earth to make us think otherwise, but there's no way it's going to vary from that end resolution.
 

Beastie91

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 29, 2017
742
Bay Area CA
The actor wanted to go to college. Apparently he's not killed off in the comics.

Did not know that can't hate on a person wanting to get an education. Wasent it a rumor that him and his parents was upset at what happend tho?

From the comment above yea see I thought I heard the same thing that he was blindsided by the decision and just recently bought a house in Atlanta. Either way Carl was my favorite character next to Michonne wanted to see him grow up more in that world guess that's why I was so upset.
 

Jerm411

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,034
Clinton, MO
Simon is the only part of this dumpster fire worth watching anymore, easily the best character on the show and Ogg is awesome...

Rick is getting insufferable....I'M GONNA KILL YOU~!!!! RAWR RAWR RAWR!!!!

Same. Old. Shit.
 

Beastie91

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 29, 2017
742
Bay Area CA
Yeah Simon aka Trevor is must watch t.v right there. He needs to be a major fixture on the show some way some how but it's going to be a sad day once Negan eventually let Lucille talk to him sense he can't follow orders lol.
 

Surfinn

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
28,590
USA
+ No more garbage people
+ Garbage zombies went into meat grinder
+ Jadis, while still alive, at least isn't talking dumb dumb dumb anymore and will hopefully turn into a more interesting character
+ The trash pile settlement was given an intriguing backstory. Not that it excuses all the time they spent on that subplot, but I appreciate that they're trying to do something 'more' with it instead of just killing everyone and forgetting it ever existed
Them seemed to try to do a lot of things this episode, way more than usual (and for that alone, I commend them). Hopefully the garbage place becomes something interesting. Maybe Jadis will reveal what it is next episode/in the future. I actually thought she did a good job acting, but the direction was kinda wonky. I wish they would have built her up in previous episodes and it doesn't help that she just appears to betray anyone at any given moment.

That emotional payoff with the grinder could have been way more intriguing had they done anything with her character beforehand.

I like the idea that it's all an act, but the way they talked was still ridiculous and no one in real life would have believed that an entire community of people talked like neanderthals for seemingly no reason at all. Though it was really cool to see her suddenly start talking like a person. I thought it was similar to how Ezekiel revealed himself to Carol.

Still this show seems to go wherever the wind blows it. Rick saying "fuck it, Carl's last words are pointless" while talking to Negan was strange/disconnected to the actual impact of Carl's death. Rick has said like 100 times "I'm gunna kill you" to Negan, so him saying it yet again after the revelation of Carl's last words/letters to everybody felt a monumentally wasted opportunity to do something fresh for Rick/co.
 

Chirotera

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
4,276
Seems kind of obvious what's going to happen from here. Simon is going to stage a coup to overthrow Negan, Negan escapes to Rick. Rick spends several scenes being all pissed off ready to kill him but decides to spare him because of Carl. They team up and eliminate Simon/coup Saviors. Negan regains control, decides to also listen to Carl's words. War is over, they start cooperating - until the next threat comes in ready to pick off what's left of the bones.
 

BFIB

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Oct 25, 2017
11,678
Seems kind of obvious what's going to happen from here. Simon is going to stage a coup to overthrow Negan, Negan escapes to Rick. Rick spends several scenes being all pissed off ready to kill him but decides to spare him because of Carl. They team up and eliminate Simon/coup Saviors. Negan regains control, decides to also listen to Carl's words. War is over, they start cooperating - until the next threat comes in ready to pick off what's left of the bones.

I have a feeling this is the pathway too. I feel like the show just looks tired at this point. There's hardly any new areas we see, we've seen Alexandria for what, 3 years now? I'm in it to the end though, as I do still love this universe.

If there are going to be spin offs, what I would like to see is a WD Anthology series. As in, every week we get a new location with a standalone story. Some before the outbreak, during the outbreak, and even go far into the future after the outbreak so we can see where society heads.
 

Rangerx

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,505
Dangleberry
First episode I really enjoyed in a long time. It was paced reasonably well, theres an interesting dynamic emerging between Negan and Simon(who we need to see more of) and the trash people were annihilated. Some cool gore scenes aswell. I hope theycan at least maintain this level of quality.
 

Casa

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Oct 25, 2017
9,555
Didn't we see a helicopter flying overhead last season, or am I imagining that? Now we hear something this episode about a helipad.
 

Jerm411

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,034
Clinton, MO
I have a feeling this is the pathway too. I feel like the show just looks tired at this point. There's hardly any new areas we see, we've seen Alexandria for what, 3 years now? I'm in it to the end though, as I do still love this universe.

If there are going to be spin offs, what I would like to see is a WD Anthology series. As in, every week we get a new location with a standalone story. Some before the outbreak, during the outbreak, and even go far into the future after the outbreak so we can see where society heads.

Agreed, I would love to see a spin off that deals with the outbreak and as its happening...the govt protocols, rumors and stories emerging, the panic, looting...basically how society falls.

I thought this is where FTWD was headed when it started but they went a different route.
 

Korigama

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Oct 25, 2017
20,527
They already failed to make a spin-off worth watching once, I don't expect additional milking to be any different. Short of focusing on explaining the cause of the outbreak (which they're apparently set on never doing) or something set on the other side of the globe, I have no interest in humoring more of their experiments.
 

killerrin

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,238
Toronto
I have a feeling this is the pathway too. I feel like the show just looks tired at this point. There's hardly any new areas we see, we've seen Alexandria for what, 3 years now? I'm in it to the end though, as I do still love this universe.

If there are going to be spin offs, what I would like to see is a WD Anthology series. As in, every week we get a new location with a standalone story. Some before the outbreak, during the outbreak, and even go far into the future after the outbreak so we can see where society heads.
I just want to see them in a climate that isn't just summer all the time. Show a group in the arctic. Maybe a bunch of boats banded together to become pirates. What if a group really didn't want to leave the city. An episode dedicated to the astronauts on the ISS listening to it all go down and their decision to bail back to earth or end it in space would be fun. Hell, even if they just introduced different seasons to the show (WTF is Winter?)

They can do so much with the show, and yet they haven't even tried
 

WhySoDevious

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Oct 31, 2017
8,466
Seems kind of obvious what's going to happen from here. Simon is going to stage a coup to overthrow Negan, Negan escapes to Rick. Rick spends several scenes being all pissed off ready to kill him but decides to spare him because of Carl. They team up and eliminate Simon/coup Saviors. Negan regains control, decides to also listen to Carl's words. War is over, they start cooperating - until the next threat comes in ready to pick off what's left of the bones.
No way Maggie is alive in that timeline.

It's already a stretch believing Rick can forgive Negan (at least in the show) but Maggie forgiving Negan for killing Glenn?

No way. I don't buy that.
 

WhySoDevious

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Oct 31, 2017
8,466
I just want to see them in a climate that isn't just summer all the time. Show a group in the arctic. Maybe a bunch of boats banded together to become pirates. What if a group really didn't want to leave the city. An episode dedicated to the astronauts on the ISS listening to it all go down and their decision to bail back to earth or end it in space would be fun. Hell, even if they just introduced different seasons to the show (WTF is Winter?)

They can do so much with the show, and yet they haven't even tried
Can you imagine walking in deep snow and getting bitten by a buried walker?

That's probably why we won't see that.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,752
Norman, OK
link? he seemed totally fine on Talking Dead.

Already been discussed in this thread, plus 5 seconds on Google turned this up right away:https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2017...admits-really-really-did-not-want-leave-show/

Not sure why you would use a studio tv appearance as the basis for forming an opinion about Chandler's true thoughts/feelings about being written off. He'd have to be one hell of a major brat to go on TWD's official talk show and make a scene.
 

Parenegade

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,589
Seems kind of obvious what's going to happen from here. Simon is going to stage a coup to overthrow Negan, Negan escapes to Rick. Rick spends several scenes being all pissed off ready to kill him but decides to spare him because of Carl. They team up and eliminate Simon/coup Saviors. Negan regains control, decides to also listen to Carl's words. War is over, they start cooperating - until the next threat comes in ready to pick off what's left of the bones.

I don't give a fuck what Carl said. If you think Maggie is going to let Negan live I have a beach house to sell you in Idaho.
 

Tux_

Banned
Nov 5, 2017
1,345
What a refreshing feeling to come in here and see some positivity for once.

Great ep.
 

Darkstar0155

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,165
Can you imagine walking in deep snow and getting bitten by a buried walker?

That's probably why we won't see that.
I wouldn't mind seeing that. Scavenging for supplies in the winter, finding ways to stay warm, seeing footprints of people around the perimeter scouting, no full assaults due to the weather, zombies should be relatively frozen, its not like Virginia (isn't that where the show is based now) gets feet and feet of snow. It could be a really good couple episodes imo.
 

Darkstar0155

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,165
shane was obsessed with lori, he didnt give a fuck about anyone else in the group
yep, shane was all kinds of crazy. He almost shot whats his name that had the RV initially, pretty sure he talked about overthrowing Hershel, tried to kill Rick for nothing except jealousy, shot hershels son instead of tried to save him (although that one was sorta outta necessity). I haven't seen Rick want to kill his own people at all, let alone for the selfish reasons Shane did.

Shane would have become like Negan after enough time probably.
 

Deleted member 864

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, this was one of the better episodes of the season. Watching the downfall of the garbage people was the highlight, and I am curious to see what they might do with Jadis now. Also, I enjoyed Negan's reaction to learning about Carl.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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This has to be one of the worst episodes so far. Nothing interesting, besides the fact they got rid of the trash girls, which however begs the question why the fuck were they introduced in the first place? Completely useless. The CGI there reminded me of the deer filler episode. Like, they have an interesting arc going but they concentrare on irrelevant characters and dramas that fail to be impactful thanks to dreadful development.
 

Prologue

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
781
AMC and Gimple are going to run the franchise straight into the ground. But I highly doubt I'll be watching any new spin offs. I already dropped Fear during season 2.

Its such a bad show. And I try not to ever say that lightly because people have different opinions.

I only watched to the end of season 2. It was just bizarre design decisions, one after another. Like, you have this huge, "monumental" show that you're doing a spin off of. How can you not want to 1up them?

Its just ridiculous. I should have ran when that kid didn't change his clothes in five episodes.
 

metalgear89

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,018
Shane could never be negan, no way that psycho would be able to build a group that large, he'd kill em all.

End rick vs negan this season please. Then get some fresh faces, a new setting and move away from the whole rick and co vs some other group for atleast a season.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Shane could never be negan, no way that psycho would be able to build a group that large, he'd kill em all.

End rick vs negan this season please. Then get some fresh faces, a new setting and move away from the whole rick and co vs some other group for atleast a season.

At some point you would figure that they'd run out of groups to fight. We don't know how many people are left, but considering how even groups like Woodbury eventually fell apart...yeah.

The underlying issue never addressed is that there's no way to keep society going when one death can trigger an outbreak. The walkers will win in the end, no matter how vigilant you are.

Rick and Co should have stayed in Georgia.
 

dustyherb

Member
Oct 25, 2017
266
CO
This has to be one of the worst episodes so far. Nothing interesting, besides the fact they got rid of the trash girls, which however begs the question why the fuck were they introduced in the first place? Completely useless. The CGI there reminded me of the deer filler episode. Like, they have an interesting arc going but they concentrare on irrelevant characters and dramas that fail to be impactful thanks to dreadful development.
Jadis is the reason they were introduced. She must have some part to play if they decided to keep her around.
 

Stiler

Avenger
Oct 29, 2017
6,659
shane was obsessed with lori, he didnt give a fuck about anyone else in the group

Yeah he totally didn't.

Like how he took care of Ed for Carol or when he took care of Randall so he couldn't bring his group back to cause problems. Shane did care about the group, and he understood the world as it was and the type of people that could survive a lot more then Rick did at the time. He was at a place that Rick himself would eventually get to (and cross).

Rick is extremely brash and he has constantly led the group headfirst into bad situations without thinking through, he doesn't really look ahead for hte "big picture" or think things over. He's became extremely mistrusting of everyone and has no problems leaving people to fend for themselves or simply not helping those that he can help these days. He's became what he was mad at Shane for doing but even worse.
 

Border

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
14,859
I guess the Garbage People were the Wakanda of Walking Dead, huh?

Primitive and unsophisticated to outsiders, but secretly harboring a bunch of advanced technology. I hope we get to see what Jadis is up to next week.
 

Silentbomber

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Oct 27, 2017
452
What was with the character POV cards curing this ep ? was weird and didn't change the episode structure much. It reminded me of an Song of Ice and Fire book.

I enjoyed this ep, garbage people are gone which is amazing.
 
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RatskyWatsky

RatskyWatsky

Are we human or are we dancer?
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Oct 25, 2017
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AMC and Gimple are going to run the franchise straight into the ground.

There's absolutely no reason why they shouldn't try and make The Walking Dead the CSI/NCIS/Law & Order of cable.

Maybe Jadis will reveal what it is next episode/in the future. I actually thought she did a good job acting, but the direction was kinda wonky. I wish they would have built her up in previous episodes and it doesn't help that she just appears to betray anyone at any given moment.

That emotional payoff with the grinder could have been way more intriguing had they done anything with her character beforehand.

For sure. I feel like maybe they had intended to play the long game with the Heapsters but then decided to off them after they saw the viscerally negative fan reaction, ala Nikki and Paolo from Lost.

Still this show seems to go wherever the wind blows it. Rick saying "fuck it, Carl's last words are pointless" while talking to Negan was strange/disconnected to the actual impact of Carl's death. Rick has said like 100 times "I'm gunna kill you" to Negan, so him saying it yet again after the revelation of Carl's last words/letters to everybody felt a monumentally wasted opportunity to do something fresh for Rick/co.

As he said at the beginning of the episode, he's still working out what Carl meant exactly.

Agreed, I would love to see a spin off that deals with the outbreak and as its happening...the govt protocols, rumors and stories emerging, the panic, looting...basically how society falls.

I thought this is where FTWD was headed when it started but they went a different route.

They already did that in Fear the Walking Dead - it lasted for like 2 episodes and people still complained that it took too long to get to the zombies.

What's really hard about doing a story set before/during the initial outbreak is that things have to happen very very very quickly in order for any of it to be believable. Every part of society has to break down immediately or else the audience is going to be wondering how the apocalypse even happened at all.

Its such a bad show. And I try not to ever say that lightly because people have different opinions.

I only watched to the end of season 2. It was just bizarre design decisions, one after another. Like, you have this huge, "monumental" show that you're doing a spin off of. How can you not want to 1up them?

Its just ridiculous. I should have ran when that kid didn't change his clothes in five episodes.

The general consensus is that season three is a major step up from the previous season - and the best 'Walking Dead' has been in years.

I guess the Garbage People were the Wakanda of Walking Dead, huh?

Primitive and unsophisticated to outsiders, but secretly harboring a bunch of advanced technology. I hope we get to see what Jadis is up to next week.

rofl
 

Surfinn

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
28,590
USA
Well Rick's conversation with Negan felt kinda cheap in the sense that, in that moment, he ignored what Carl said to him and Michonne. I get that he's still working it out but it still seems out of character for Rick after all the shit he's been through. It felt weak, from a storytelling/characterization perspective.
 

ElyrionX

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Jan 3, 2018
270
Just caught up. I mean wtf. So the garbage people were a complete waste of time after all? All those shenanigans only to get mowed down in one go by the Saviors? What the fuck.
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
76,219
Providence, RI
Hey, remember like 4 hours ago when Rick promised Car he would make his dream come true?

And then he shit all over his dead son's wishes by leaving a woman to die and completely forgetting the lesson his dead son was trying to teach him?

Also, it makes literally no sense for Simon to murder all of the trash people and hide it because fucking obviously Negan is going to find out that an entirely colony is gone. So again, this is another case of characters being written to be less intelligent than they actually are to force plot points.

This show is absolutely and shockingly bad right now.
 

Rehynn

Banned
Feb 14, 2018
737
Eh, it's still an enjoyable trainwreck, with some genuinely fun moments.
The show definitely has balls, I just wish it would show more.