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djkimothy

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I just wanted to say, Ontario should get rid of daylight savings. Such a pointless practice.

It's a god damn useless tradition if you ask me. The bunny huggers have it right.

As for quebec, is the xenophobic tendencies limited to north eastern region? Working in Ottawa i rarely get a sense of racism or xenophobia from Gatineau or Montreal area. Limited sample i know but half my co workers are from quebec region.
 

gutter_trash

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It's a god damn useless tradition if you ask me. The bunny huggers have it right.

As for quebec, is the xenophobic tendencies limited to north eastern region? Working in Ottawa i rarely get a sense of racism or xenophobia from Gatineau or Montreal area. Limited sample i know but half my co workers are from quebec region.
It's Province wide. It's not exclusive to Right Wingism here.
Quebec City is famous because of their talk radio trash.

Montreal Island is the most tolerant, notice that I'm using the word "tolerant" and not "inclussive" LOL.

Speaking on the subject, JdM's resident white nationalist is complaining about Aba & Preach's comedy.
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...is-de-racistes--une-maniere-de-les-diaboliser
 

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It's Province wide. It's not exclusive to Right Wingism here.
Quebec City is famous because of their talk radio trash.

Montreal Island is the most tolerant, notice that I'm using the word "tolerant" and not "inclussive" LOL.

Speaking on the subject, JdM's resident white nationalist is complaining about Aba & Preach's comedy.
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...is-de-racistes--une-maniere-de-les-diaboliser

There was a time where MBC was the worst of it but in the same paper you have Richard Martineau, Sophie Durocher (his wife) and Denise Bombardier for different variations with a different level of vocabulary. Considering what their big boss is posting on twitter it's not really surprising.

Haha this is great :
 
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Lots of election pandering going on in Alberta re: BC pipelines. Kenney trying to sound Trump-esc "THOSE FUCKING PANSY NDP'ERS ARE GOING LIGHT! WAIT UNTIL YOU FACE ME NEXT YEAR!" And "environmentally sustainable" oil? lol okay.
 
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I just wanted to say, Every part of Canada that hasn't done so should get rid of daylight savings. Such a pointless practice.
FTFY
the most important take away is the pie chart, chance of forming gov.

LPC minority 34.7%, LPC majority 15.5%.
LPC combined chance of 50.2% to form government.

CPC minority 40.5%/ CPC majority 8%
CPC combined chance of 48.5% to form government.

Tie 1.3%

NDP minority chance 0.1%

so, the LPC still has a 3.3% over the CPC to form a whatever government.
Except Singh has indicated he may support a Conservative government in order to "topple the Trudeau government" so their chances of forming government are greatly reduced if they do end up with a minority. While I would vastly prefer the NDP and LPC working together over having the Cons in any position of power (especially if it means that a federal ban on carding is imposed), reality would suggest that the possibility of doing so is unlikely.
 

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As for quebec, is the xenophobic tendencies limited to north eastern region? Working in Ottawa i rarely get a sense of racism or xenophobia from Gatineau or Montreal area. Limited sample i know but half my co workers are from quebec region.
Gazette has a new story (on topic):

http://montrealgazette.com/news/loc...shocked-by-racial-slur-on-homework-assignment

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Two 11-year-old girls say they were shocked to see the word "nègre" on a homework assignment.

The girls, who are black, are students at Académie Saint-Clément, a school in the Town of Mount Royal.

They were given a worksheet where students were required to find the diminutive of a number of French words. Among words like song, room, bear and donkey was the racial slur.

"I was shocked because it's a derogatory word," said one of the children.

The girls complained to their teacher, who told them the word was not racist and that, if it was not acceptable, Dix petits nègres, the French version of an Agatha Christie novel, would not be available in the library, the girl said.


The teacher proceeded to instruct the class on the diminutive of the word, she said.
 

Tiktaalik

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Singh didn't say that he just said the same old vague "we'll work with anyone on good policy" platitude that anyone would say.

Does anyone have the exact quote? I couldn't find it.

Saying "oh I'll definitely prop up this specific government" is completely bone headed from a strategy point of view and you'll never see any politician say anything like that.

Similarly Weaver and the BC Greens act antagonistic like they're going to defeat the BC NDP at any moment, but of course there's no way they'll let the government fall.
 

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Nobody posted this yesterday?

Ontario MPP tables bill to lower voting age to 16

An Ontario legislator has formally proposed that the province lower the voting age from to 18 to 16.

Liberal MPP Arthur Potts, who represents the Toronto riding of Beaches—East York, says that if 16-year-olds are trusted to drive cars, coach soccer and pay income tax, "it is time to trust them to vote."

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Some Queen's Park observers have pointed out that a private member's bill such as this one is likely to die without becoming law, because there wouldn't be enough time to pass it before the election on June 7.

Potts calls the bill "an first important step."
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/ontario-mpp-tables-bill-to-lower-voting-age-to-16-1.3829696
 

gutter_trash

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I'm against it
16 year olds are not adults and are highly too idealistic when it comes to politics.

I remember my mindset when I was that age, not very mature at all
 

djkimothy

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As it's harder and harder for kids entering the workforce after graduation, they should have a say in politics. For too long policy had catered to older folks at the expense of a younger generation. Political landscape would change overnight if post secondary education financial relief is on the table now that the kids have a say. Policy making would have a more broader approach.
 
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I'm against it
16 year olds are not adults and are highly too idealistic when it comes to politics.

I remember my mindset when I was that age, not very mature at all
If you're old enough to be eligible for a license to drive, you're older enough to understand the importance of voting (Ontario doesn't have a civics course requirement just to kill half a semester for students); I hope this bill goes through and that the federal government follows suit; I know younger me would have loved to have voted against Harper in 2011.
 

gutter_trash

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....What the actual fuck

And that teacher, no really, what the fucking fuck my god I can't... I'm honestly speechless.
She is using the usual excuse by hiding behind the 80 year old title of an Agatha Christie novel (the English version changed its title but not the French version).

The worst part is that teacher won't be reprimanded at all for this

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If you're old enough to be eligible for a license to drive, you're older enough to understand the importance of voting (Ontario doesn't have a civics course requirement just to kill half a semester for students); I hope this bill goes through and that the federal government follows suit; I know younger me would have loved to have voted against Harper in 2011.
A driver's license is a privilege not a right.. Your analogy doesn't work because their metabolism are not adult enough to be allowed to drink alcohol.

If 16 year olds were allowed to vote in 1995, the YES camp would have won the 1995 Referendum.
 
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Reminder that this poll gives weight to Forum, who currently have the CPC near 50%, and up by 6 points in Quebec. Grenier can count that however he wants, but the fact he's counting it at all makes the whole thing suspect.

I would honestly be curious to know what percentage of 16-17 year olds would actually show up to vote.

It might actually be pretty high (though I could just be projecting how I felt at 16 with how kids today would feel). In any case, there's evidence that if you get kids voting, they're more likely to be lifelong voters. It's a good idea.
 

djkimothy

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Also the nanos numbers are in. Grenier also has an explainer within the tweet of the nanos numbers.



aaron wherry digs into the numbers a bit more.

 

gutter_trash

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it's funny, UK wouldn't be in that pickle if they didn't Brexit themselves out of the EU.

IMO, it's a little premature to make a new trade deal with them while their divorce with the EU isn't finalized
 

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I had no idea who this Faith Goldy was and so I peeked at her Twitter.

There's Pepe in there, among other things. Charming.

Also LOL, not enough giant middle fingers for this bigoted lunacy:
 

djkimothy

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Really? She was at the Charlottesville protest and got let go. Man it was a shit show with her and rebel media. She's garbage.

I'm not surprised by the Lindsay invite. She's an alt right puppet as well.
 

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Ontario brings in 'pay transparency' bill aimed at closing gender wage gap

Ontario introduced legislation Tuesday that aims to close the wage gap between women and men in the province.

If passed, the "pay transparency" bill would require all publicly advertised job postings to include a salary rate or range, bar employers from asking about past compensation and prohibit reprisal against employees who do discuss or disclose compensation.

It would also create a framework that would require large employers to track and report compensation gaps based on gender and other diversity characteristics, and disclose the information to the province.

The pay transparency measures will begin with the Ontario public service before applying to employers with more than 500 employees. It will later extend to those with more than 250 workers.
 

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it's funny, UK wouldn't be in that pickle if they didn't Brexit themselves out of the EU.

IMO, it's a little premature to make a new trade deal with them while their divorce with the EU isn't finalized

The Ireland-Northern Ireland border issue seems like it's going to be what kills it. Yesterday May touted the Canada-USA border as a possible model, as if people wouldn't know it's a hard border.

But I believe a competent Labour opposition would have killed Brexit by now but Corbyn's more than content to jump off that cliff because Brexit fits perfectly with his anti-trade agenda and bad economics policies and he's willing to sell out to the nativism and nostalgia to get that.


From what I've read about the conduct of the RCMP at Boushie's mother's house the night he was shot those officers should have been fired. The problems go much deeper than that and they won't be fired because police unions are awful and there's no accountability but it was abhorrent.
 

prophetvx

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Its a good idea, but we get one of these every couple of years. Always gets voted down though
I'd prefer the voting age to be 21 to 70. Anyone outside of that is either too young to understand politics or too old to care about long term consequences. Obviously they are gross generalizations, but you struggle to find 18 years who engaged enough to vote, let alone 16 year olds.
 

Prax

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Maybe Wynne will somehow keep winning. lol
Maybe the PCs will just collapse on themselves again in some miraculous turn of events.
 
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What are your guys thoughts on educational reform?

Seeing as how for a lot of us in our early twenties, going to university means staying at home with the parents. We all desperately want to graduate and move on.

If I was able to attend university at a younger age Id be set to move onto my masters right now.

Basically saying cutting k-12 to k-10

Thats more than enough to instill basic norms and values as well as basic technical skills
 
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I'd prefer the voting age to be 21 to 70. Anyone outside of that is either too young to understand politics or too old to care about long term consequences. Obviously they are gross generalizations, but you struggle to find 18 years who engaged enough to vote, let alone 16 year olds.
How many 16-18 year olds do you know?

I had no idea who this Faith Goldy was and so I peeked at her Twitter.

There's Pepe in there, among other things. Charming.

Also LOL, not enough giant middle fingers for this bigoted lunacy:


Former Rebel contributor; you may know her as that racist, Islamophobic idiot who cried out "Deus vult" in Jerusalem or for marching alongside Charlottesville's Nazis.

Also: As the grandson of Portuguese immigrants (on both sides), there are not enough expletives in the English language to respond to this. I hope there's a special place in Hell reserved for her and every other contributor to Rebel, former or otherwise.
 
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Former Rebel contributor; you may know her as that racist, Islamophobic idiot who cried out "Deus vult" in Jerusalem or for marching alongside Charlottesville's Nazis.
Was not familiar with her, the only Rebel Media names I'm familiar with are Gavin McInnes and Ezra Levant. I see on Wikipedia that she actually got fired from Rebel Media for appearing on a white supremacist podcast... jesus fucking christ when Rebel Media fires you for being too racist, you know something's up
 

djkimothy

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Was not familiar with her, the only Rebel Media names I'm familiar with are Gavin McInnes and Ezra Levant. I see on Wikipedia that she actually got fired from Rebel Media for appearing on a white supremacist podcast... jesus fucking christ when Rebel Media fires you for being too racist, you know something's up

Yah it was a circus of stupid back in the day. It was what forced Andrew Scheer to say he would "distance himself from Rebel until their editorial agenda changes" or some such. Still doesn't explain why his campaign manager is a former Rebel staff. This is the main cause of my distrust with Scheer. The conservative movement on the right in Canada is just variations of the shenanigans going down south. Mix in a bit of Jordan Pederson, Lindsay Shepard the shit show in Ontario and it's shocking how much traction conservatives still have in this country.
 
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Quite a few? I was also one once.

They have plenty of years to vote, they don't however have much life experience.
Plenty of older people are lacking in the ever vague "life experience" that makes them somehow more qualified to vote. If anything, with how Gen Y and Z being the most educated and diverse voting bloc in Canada come 2019, they would be more knowledgeable about the major issues Canadian society faces than out of touch Boomers, namely with how thoroughly screwed they're gotten or will be due to the voting decisions made by an older generation that lead to the Harper Years.
 

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Plenty of older people are lacking in the ever vague "life experience" that makes them somehow more qualified to vote. If anything, with how Gen Y and Z being the most educated and diverse voting bloc in Canada come 2019, they would be more knowledgeable about the major issues Canadian society faces than out of touch Boomers, namely with how thoroughly screwed they're gotten or will be due to the voting decisions made by an older generation that lead to the Harper Years.
Get back to me when you know plenty of 16-18 year olds who have plenty of experience paying income and property taxes, managing RRSP's, TFSA's etc... I absolutely believe there should be an age limit for older voters (I would have said 60 years old but life expectancy is growing quickly) as well but younger voters are just as likely to be narrow-focussed voters like boomers are.

There isn't a significant divide on progressive issues between a 16 year old and say a 25 year old or even 30 year olds but people in their 20's are certainly generally more balanced in their viewpoints.

Life experience isn't "ever vague", people drastically change in the 3 years after leaving high school.
 
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