‘The Walking Dead’ – Season 8 - Sundays on AMC

Spikematic · Mar 6, 2018

Simon lighting up the garbage people was so cathartic. I just wish the leader lady with the bad hair would've gotten shot in the head as well. Ah well, at least we got to see trash people get grinded into delicious zombie paste. If only she had jumped in too.

Zaph · Mar 6, 2018

When Jadis was left all alone at the end, anyone else get the feeling

she'll shave her head be back after the time jump as Alpha, leader of the Whisperers? It's the exact type of shit I expect from the writers who love twisting the knife in Rick.

Guppeth · Mar 6, 2018

Zaph said:
When Jadis was left all alone at the end, anyone else get the feeling

she'll shave her head be back after the time jump as Alpha, leader of the Whisperers? It's the exact type of shit I expect from the writers who love twisting the knife in Rick.

It's a shame Carl won't be around for that arc. :(

Pankratous · Mar 6, 2018

So I didn't quite get it. Why would the garbage people speaking nonsense? To be different?

Guppeth · Mar 6, 2018

Pankratous said:
So I didn't quite get it. Why would the garbage people speaking nonsense? To be different?

Yeah, they wanted to be separate from the rest of the world. I wonder how that worked out during the recruitment phase. Instead of Rick's three questions, they just ask 'are you prepared to speak like a wanker?'

Deleted member 2254 · Mar 6, 2018

dustyherb said:
Jadis is the reason they were introduced. She must have some part to play if they decided to keep her around.

They juggled around with them for a while, only for useless fillers and ultimately to kill them all to make a compelling character. All this could have be done in one episode, for example instead of that dumb CGI deer episode from last season where Rick almost killed himself being an idiot in the amusement park. This was their master plan endgame for the whole dumpster storyline? Talk about wasting time.

Rehynn · Mar 6, 2018

Pankratous said:
So I didn't quite get it. Why would the garbage people speaking nonsense? To be different?

Yeah, the dump was basically a commune for art school dropouts.

Surfinn · Mar 6, 2018

Pankratous said:
So I didn't quite get it. Why would the garbage people speaking nonsense? To be different?

I took it as they don't actually speak like that to each other but use it as a front when meeting with other people to protect whatever it is they're hiding.

ZeoVGM · Mar 6, 2018

http://variety.com/2018/tv/ratings/walking-dead-season-8-ratings-lows-1202719271/

'Walking Dead' Drops to Lowest Ratings Since Season 1

"The Walking Dead" just can't catch a break.

This past Sunday's episode of the AMC zombie apocalypse series, the tenth episode of the show's eighth season, drew a 2.9 rating in adults 18-49 and 6.8 million viewers in the Nielsen Live+Same Day numbers. That is the lowest rating in the key demographic that the show has put up since its first season back in 2010. The last time "The Walking Dead," which is the top-rated show on television, drew less than a 3.0 rating was the Season 1 episode "Wildfire," which drew a 2.8. The last time the show drew less than 7 million viewers was the second season episode "Better Angels," which averaged 6.9 million.

This week's episode was also down around 20 percent in both measures compared to last week's midseason premiere, one of the steeper drop offs the show has seen between a midseason premiere and a subsequent episode to date. As Variety reported last week, the Season 8 midseason premiere was the lowest-rated midseason premiere in series history, putting up a 3.6 rating in adults 18-49 and 8.3 million viewers.

Previously, the Season 8 midseason finale was the show's lowest-rated since Season 2. The Season 8 premiere was also the show's lowest-rated since its third season, despite the fact that the Season 8 opener was also the show's 100th episode.

Again, it bears repeating that "The Walking Dead" was still the top-rated and most-watched cable show of the night by far and faced stiff competition from the Academy Awards on ABC, which also saw new ratings lows.

riotous · Mar 6, 2018

Pankratous said:
So I didn't quite get it. Why would the garbage people speaking nonsense? To be different?

They are hiding at the very least, a helicopter. If not other tech and a more hospitable dwelling.. they use the dump and their grunt-speak to make it so nobody will care much about them. Who would want to take over a dump? Who would bother these grunting people who seem useless and live in a dump?

Meanwhile they are hiding the garbage Wakanda back there under those piles of trash.

nekkid · Mar 6, 2018

So is Enid related to Kylo Ren, or what?

okayfrog · Mar 6, 2018

A week behind, but I wasn't the only one who laughed at Carl killing himself with a silenced pistol, right? That goddamn sound effect was hilarious.

Deleted member 31923 · Mar 6, 2018

The mid season opener gave me slight hope (even if they dragged Carl's death on for too long), but this episode killed it with fire. You could have a drinking game for all the times Rick tells Negan he is going to kill him. And I'm so glad the garbage people are dead. I love how many times Rick risked his life for these people who do nothing but double and triple cross their allies and switch back and forth without actually fighting. Sure, if there were 300 of them, it may be worth the risk, but there were only about 30 of them after all that. I just wish Jadis would have died with them. Awful character. Of course her Mad Max Neanderthal dialogue was fake, but who would believe it anyway? Maybe with 500 years of Apocalypse, people would start talking that way. But 5? The show's ratings are tanking because it's so repetitive, but also it's too comic like and not at all realistic, as exemplified by the garbage people. You don't need a ton of realism from a zombie show, but there should at least be a little. Maybe the human characters can seem like they are actually human.

ZeoVGM · Mar 6, 2018

okayfrog said:
A week behind, but I wasn't the only one who laughed at Carl killing himself with a silenced pistol, right? That goddamn sound effect was hilarious.

Nope, it was silly. It just didn't make sense for us, the audience, to hear the sound of the gun going off the way we did, considering where the camera was. It made a dramatic moment a bit silly.

Hamoody · Mar 7, 2018

Chirotera said:
Last I heard Lauren Cohan negotiations have stalled. I'd say chances are good that she won't survive to take down Negan. I could see her dying during child birth.

Giving her the Lori treatment?

Rehynn · Mar 7, 2018

ZeoVGM said:
Nope, it was silly. It just didn't make sense for us, the audience, to hear the sound of the gun going off the way we did, considering where the camera was. It made a dramatic moment a bit silly.

A silenced pistol is actually still pretty loud.

Hamoody · Mar 7, 2018

okayfrog said:
A week behind, but I wasn't the only one who laughed at Carl killing himself with a silenced pistol, right? That goddamn sound effect was hilarious.

You aren't the only one, me and my dad laughed our asses off too

Deleted member 16136 · Mar 7, 2018

okayfrog said:
A week behind, but I wasn't the only one who laughed at Carl killing himself with a silenced pistol, right? That goddamn sound effect was hilarious.

I almost spat out my drink.

PEW.

Chitown B · Mar 7, 2018

BFIB said:
I have a feeling this is the pathway too. I feel like the show just looks tired at this point. There's hardly any new areas we see, we've seen Alexandria for what, 3 years now? I'm in it to the end though, as I do still love this universe.

If there are going to be spin offs, what I would like to see is a WD Anthology series. As in, every week we get a new location with a standalone story. Some before the outbreak, during the outbreak, and even go far into the future after the outbreak so we can see where society heads.

well just looking at the short synopsis of the remaining comics, there isn't much left. The way that Negan fight ends in the books can't happen, and since Carl is now dead and isn't dead in the books, that stuff will be left out. From what I see, there is another bad faction to deal with, but that's about it.

Farm
Prison
Woodbury
Terminus
Hilltop/Alexandria (FOREVER).

We need more traveling and new areas.

metalgear89 · Mar 7, 2018

Chitown B said:
well just looking at the short synopsis of the remaining comics, there isn't much left. The way that Negan fight ends in the books can't happen, and since Carl is now dead and isn't dead in the books, that stuff will be left out. From what I see, there is another bad faction to deal with, but that's about it.

Farm
Prison
Woodbury
Terminus
Hilltop/Alexandria (FOREVER).

We need more traveling and new areas.

I want to see them go to a city, tired of some bumfuck place in the middle of nowhere.

Chitown B · Mar 7, 2018

metalgear89 said:
I want to see them go to a city, tired of some bumfuck place in the middle of nowhere.

Yeah. They haven't had an episode in Atlanta in 4 years, and that was only for a couple eps. There are other cities. Take it out of Georgia.

More_Badass · Mar 7, 2018

Chitown B said:
Yeah. They haven't had an episode in Atlanta in 4 years, and that was only for a couple eps. There are other cities. Take it out of Georgia.

The show is in Virginia now. Would be nice if they went to DC

Klean · Mar 7, 2018

This season is reaching Fear the Walking Dead levels of bad. Only thing keeping me watching at this point is my OCD for finishing a show because I've already watched it for years.

Tribal_Cult · Mar 7, 2018

Klean said:
This season is reaching Fear the Walking Dead levels of bad. Only thing keeping me watching at this point is my OCD for finishing a show because I've already watched it for years.

3B of Fear is better than 80% of Walking Dead imho. Honestly I've rarely seen a show as bad as TWD S6/7/8

Surfinn · Mar 7, 2018

Tribal_Cult said:
3B of Fear is better than 80% of Walking Dead imho. Honestly I've rarely seen a show as bad as TWD S6/7/8

The drop in quality after S1-5 is staggering (which was generally good with some bad mixed in). S6 had some good stuff but Alexandria was the beginning of the end. S7 and 8 are inexcusable.

Pankratous · Mar 7, 2018

Surfinn said:
The drop in quality after S1-5 is staggering (which was generally good with some bad mixed in). S6 had some good stuff but Alexandria was the beginning of the end. S7 and 8 are inexcusable.

I thought the beginning of S8 was decent again. The first few episodes was pretty much constant battles. Entertaining at least.

Surfinn · Mar 7, 2018

Pankratous said:
I thought the beginning of S8 was decent again. The first few episodes was pretty much constant battles. Entertaining at least.

I thought that was some of the worst stuff the show had ever done. Literally just zoom ins on random people firing and nobody getting hit or dying. Spraying all over the place with random fire that never hits anything. Repeat. There's no intensity, no emotional weight to anything.

Compare that to something like the Gov breaching the prison walls.

Daitokuji · Mar 7, 2018

I think they've kind of done everything with the zombie genre that they could, especially since they didn't really show the beginning and aren't going to show the cure or the end.

Surfinn · Mar 7, 2018

Daitokuji said:
I think they've kind of done everything with the zombie genre that they could, especially since they didn't really show the beginning and aren't going to show the cure or the end.

I dunno I've been reading the comic and I never once thought "they're out of ideas" or "this sucks"

ZackieChan · Mar 7, 2018

Pankratous said:
I thought the beginning of S8 was decent again. The first few episodes was pretty much constant battles. Entertaining at least.

Some of the worst onscreen battles I've ever seen. S7 started a lot stronger. That was one hell of an episode. Breaking Rick.

BFIB · Mar 7, 2018

Surfinn said:
The drop in quality after S1-5 is staggering (which was generally good with some bad mixed in). S6 had some good stuff but Alexandria was the beginning of the end. S7 and 8 are inexcusable.

Its crazy how fast it fell once Gimple took over. I also think, from what comic fans have said, that once they leave Terminus, the comics really start to drag too. The best thing the show could have done was start branching out on their own after Terminus. If you are going to have Negan, then fine, but make it different.

I think the show is heading there now, and we are seeing some mistakes corrected (killing the heapsters, Negan getting some growth with his infighting with Simon), but it may be too little, too late as the ratings are really low. Eventually the budget is going to get cut, I'd imagine its sky high for the effects.

More_Badass · Mar 7, 2018

Pankratous said:
I thought the beginning of S8 was decent again. The first few episodes was pretty much constant battles. Entertaining at least.

The only good one was Episode 3 because the battle and characters had a clear end goal to work towards and that propelled the narrative forward (Stop the Saviors from escaping with the 50 cal), and had actual character development for Ezekiel, ending with him dropping the facade

Of course the show threw both of those out the window soon after because Rick and Daryl accidentally destroy the gun next episode (thus all those Kingdom deaths and everything Carol did was for nothing) and Ezekiel is back to doing his medieval king routine, rendering that effective character moment completely moot

Surfinn · Mar 7, 2018

BFIB said:
Its crazy how fast it fell once Gimple took over. I also think, from what comic fans have said, that once they leave Terminus, the comics really start to drag too. The best thing the show could have done was start branching out on their own after Terminus. If you are going to have Negan, then fine, but make it different.

I think the show is heading there now, and we are seeing some mistakes corrected (killing the heapsters, Negan getting some growth with his infighting with Simon), but it may be too little, too late as the ratings are really low. Eventually the budget is going to get cut, I'd imagine its sky high for the effects.

The comics hit some rough/flat spots, definitely, but I never thought "wow this sucks". At worst it's decent. Most of the time it's good though.

There's a difference between hitting a few rough spots and having a shitty product for a couple years.

The biggest issue, IMO, is that the characters don't feel like they have individual personalities anymore. Their actions and decisions exist to push the plot forward, and the plot seems to exist primarily to provide drama.

More_Badass · Mar 7, 2018

BFIB said:
Its crazy how fast it fell once Gimple took over. I also think, from what comic fans have said, that once they leave Terminus, the comics really start to drag too. The best thing the show could have done was start branching out on their own after Terminus. If you are going to have Negan, then fine, but make it different.

I think the show is heading there now, and we are seeing some mistakes corrected (killing the heapsters, Negan getting some growth with his infighting with Simon), but it may be too little, too late as the ratings are really low. Eventually the budget is going to get cut, I'd imagine its sky high for the effects.

I'd disagree. Everything from the season premiere where they escape Terminus to the "Negan kills Glen" season premiere was top notch Walking Dead, the show at its peak.

Seeing the group on the road, becoming more ruthless, them trying to adjust to normalcy within Alexandria, Rick and co definitely not adjusting and planning to take over the town, the massive horde arc, the Wolf attack and ruthless killer Carol, the Saviors being introduced, the outpost massacre, the initial Negan introduction when he's actually menacing and his shtick isn't played out yet, him psychologically messing with Rick

All of that was the thrilling, intense television. It's all been downhill from there

Chitown B · Mar 7, 2018

More_Badass said:
The show is in Virginia now. Would be nice if they went to DC

See, I can't even tell. they need a city.

More_Badass · Mar 7, 2018

Chitown B said:
See, I can't even tell. they need a city.

Yeah, it's still filmed in Georgia, but in Season 5, the group traveled from Atlantis to around DC because they were trusting Eugene about being a scientist trying to get to DC to work on a cure

Jacob4815 · Mar 7, 2018

The quality drop of this series after S5 is astonishing.

Chitown B · Mar 7, 2018

Jacob4815 said:
The quality drop of this series after S5 is astonishing.

added a shit load of characters just to kill them all off and take some original favorites with them.

ZeoVGM · Mar 7, 2018

BFIB said:
Its crazy how fast it fell once Gimple took over.

I don't generally agree with this. I think seasons 4 and 5 were likely the peak of the show, flaws and all. It was season 6 where things started to go downhill with the terrible gimmicks and fake deaths. Then with 7 and 8, it has been a consistent mess that has only gotten worse and worse.

Surfinn · Mar 7, 2018

ZeoVGM said:
I don't generally agree with this. I think seasons 4 and 5 were likely the peak of the show, flaws and all. It was season 6 where things started to go downhill with the terrible gimmicks and fake deaths. Then with 7 and 8, it has been a consistent mess that has only gotten worse and worse.

One of the biggest downers for me was the casting in S6. Almost every single extra/side character in Alexandra were terrible actors coupled with bad writing. And for whatever reason, these problems remained and carried over even got worse in S7/8.

Truly bizarre.

Daitokuji · Mar 7, 2018

Terminus was maybe the last good arc. Short but sweet. Then I guess they remembered "oh we're a TV show on a moderate budget so we can't build and destroy an entire set for 3 episodes and we have to stretch everything out for 16 episode seasons and make sure to add cliffhangers for the mid-season breaks as well."

Surfinn · Mar 7, 2018

Daitokuji said:
Terminus was maybe the last good arc. Short but sweet. Then I guess they remembered "oh we're a TV show on a moderate budget so we can't build and destroy an entire set for 3 episodes and we have to stretch everything out for 16 episode seasons and make sure to add cliffhangers for the mid-season breaks as well."

The main baddie at Terminus was the beginning of consistently poor casting though IMO. Guy was bad.

At least they did something with that arc though.

Chitown B · Mar 7, 2018

Daitokuji said:
Terminus was maybe the last good arc. Short but sweet. Then I guess they remembered "oh we're a TV show on a moderate budget so we can't build and destroy an entire set for 3 episodes and we have to stretch everything out for 16 episode seasons and make sure to add cliffhangers for the mid-season breaks as well."

They pull 10 million viewers in most seasons, at least. ON CABLE. Can't be that much of a shoestring budget. I think they're second to Big Bang Theory which is around 13 million and that's broadcast. Plus only 30 minutes for commercials.

Deleted member 864 · Mar 7, 2018

S4 is still my favorite season I think, that or the first season.

jelly · Mar 7, 2018

One of the worst things about this season is the editing and how it constantly jumps around in time and place. It's almost incomprehensible at times, I've thought on more than one occasion that I missed something, wait what's going, when is this, before that or after that, how did they get there.

SeanM · Mar 7, 2018

Looking back on it, the back half of Season 4 is where the show started to go downhill for me. That's when they seemingly got the idea to split the cast up into groups of 2-3 people in order to slow things down / stretch things out. I didn't mind it at the time because it felt organic to the story and those episodes were still very solid (Carol killing those kids etc). But it should've been more of a temporary thing until the group reunited rather than a permanent shift in storytelling. There doesn't need to be standalone episodes for all these shit characters like Tara for example.

I thought Season 5 was decent, but lost interest once the Alexandria storyline started. Season 6/7/8 is mostly a big blur to me, I would have a hard time remembering what exactly happened in what season or naming any big character moments. There's a lot of uninteresting new characters and factions, a lame villain, and the way the story is structured makes it hard to form any kind of momentum.

RedMercury · Mar 7, 2018

More_Badass said:
The show is in Virginia now. Would be nice if they went to DC

I'd love this bu it would never happen, people would expect a lot of set pieces that their budget might not allow for, it's pretty cheap to just shoot 95% of the show in the fucking woods and dilapidated indoor sets haha

I haven't seen anyone talk about the camerawork that really harkened back to season one, just the style they did some things like with the weird zooms. Maybe it's just me.

vsMIC · Mar 10, 2018

Zaph said:
When Jadis was left all alone at the end, anyone else get the feeling

she'll shave her head be back after the time jump as Alpha, leader of the Whisperers? It's the exact type of shit I expect from the writers who love twisting the knife in Rick.

was my first thought as well...

RatskyWatsky · Mar 11, 2018

New episode tonight!

Dead or Alive Or

Daryl finds himself in bad company as his group heads to the Hilltop; Maggie makes difficult decisions at the Hilltop; Gabriel's faith is tested.

VenomousCoffee · Mar 11, 2018

Gabe still having faith during the zombie apocalypse might be the dumbest thing on the show.

But then 40% of Americans think the universe is 6000 years old, so I guess he's in good company.

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